obaaderemi:
You are desperate. Lagos was founded by locals. Its name is Eko, a Bini word. The Portuguese came hundreds of years later.
Mombasa belongs to Arabs and Nairobi was founded by the British. Its impossible for native Kenyans to found anything of note. We established that long ago. From your companies to your cities.

For real, why do you insist on the MOST puerile of redundant exchanges? You reduce everything to childish back and forth and one upmanship.
I know its ONLY the net SPECIFICALLY NL but it's feminine!?

Let me leave you and EVERYONE else with the desiderata whose words have given meaning for ALMOST a century.

1982-1983 - Ghana had a famine- so bad - nearly all Ghanaians emigrated to beg for food as Nigeria . Kenya has never reach there. The last famine in kenya was 1899.

Ghana became independent in 1957 and by 1965s had become the 1st African country to become bankrupt under the weight of Kwame Nkurumah extravagance including building volta dam . The army subsequently kicked him out of power,invited IMF to fix your country and he died in Guinea.

Ghana average growth from 1965 all through 1980s - was I think on average 2 percent - Ghana went through many hyperinflation - CEDIS was as useless as Zim or Zambia Kwacha - poverty was so endemic - culminating in famine of 1984.

Ghana only started to recover in 2005.

Just30:
Ghanaians were never poor and hungry and never have we.

You still haven't told us why Kenya has been poor, hungry and starving since independence.

Why all the bloody wars in Kenya and try not to put the blame on Turkana......Ghana had it own Turkana (Northern Ghana)
Nkrumah being so smart, decided to make education free for them.. Today, Northerners are the most educated group of people in Ghana.


Nkrumah was never Communist and that is why Ghana achieved so much growth and development with his 7 years and 10 years development plan...Ghana was the most developed country in SSA under him and highly industrialised...

This strong development and growth is the reason why Kenya has not been able to overtake Ghana..... also, Ghanaians are highly enterprising than Kenyans.

rvp2018:
1982-1983 - Ghana had a famine- so bad - nearly all Ghanaians emigrated to beg for food as Nigeria . Kenya has never reach there. The last famine in kenya was 1899.

Ghana's 1983 population was 12 million

About 3 million Ghanaians were already living in other West African countries plying their trade....

Ghana had a famine because Agriculture failed but thanks to the brilliance of JJ Rawlings, there was an abundance of food in the country except for the fact that traders haul them to sell at astronomical prices


Kenya has always had farmine, year after year because kenyans are lazy and dont grow anything...

Accra named as one of the World Greatest places

Keyword is Creativity





Accessing the Ghanaian capital has become even easier this year, with last fall’s debut of Qatar Airways flights from Doha and new thrice-­weekly United Airlines service from Washington, D.C. And there are plenty of openings to help fill an itinerary: ADA, a contemporary gallery that launched late last year, showcases the work of emerging creatives—such as paintings by Nigerian artist Eniwaye Oluwaseyi and South African artist Zandile Tshabalala—from across Africa. A new architecture school, the African Futures Institute (AFI) debuts at the end of July, with a focus on cultivating regional talent. The AFI is the brainchild of Lesley Lokko, the founder and director of the Graduate School of Architecture in Johannesburg, in collaboration with award-­winning Ghanaian architect David Adjaye. And next year, the Pan African Heritage World Museum is scheduled to open. It will house archives, exhibits, galleries and a theater, with the aim of being a key destination for visitors interested in connecting with Africa’s history and its people’s heritage. —Rosalind Cummings-Yeates

I dont think you even understand what a famine is. Ethiopia had many famines. Ghana had a famine so bad - and before that was hell -with failed economic growth - leading to many ghanains bailing out to beg.

You became such a nuisance - Nigeria decided to expel you in the middle of a famine.

And that was indeed horrific

Just30:
Ghana's 1983 population was 12 million

About 3 million Ghanaians were already living in other West African countries plying their trade....

Ghana had a famine because Agriculture failed but thanks to the brilliance of JJ Rawlings, there was an abundance of food in the country except for the fact that traders haul them to sell at astronomical prices


Kenya has always had farmine, year after year because kenyans are lazy and dont grow anything...

Kenya has had many droughts - but not famine. The last famine in kenya happened in 19th century.

When there is drought in parts of kenya - kenya gov and international NGOS - have always quickly moved in to supply food.

That has prevented the droughts from becoming a famine like happened in Ghana and Ethiopia in 1984s.

Inadequate management of a drought lead to famine.

rvp2018:
I dont think you even understand what a famine is. Ethiopia had many famines. Ghana had a famine so bad - and before that was hell -with failed economic growth - leading to many ghanains bailing out to beg.

You became such a nuisance - Nigeria decide to expel you in the middle of a famine.

And that was indeed horrific

You are deflecting to Ethiopia

I said, Kenya experience farmine every year with 6 million Kenyans at risk of starvation.... That is terribly horrific for any human society...

No wonder Humanitarian organisations have pitched camps closure and use pics from Kenya to convince the world to donate more money...



Ghana had an abundance of food because of huge food import during crop failures of 1983...
So Ghanaians did not starve to death

Kenya being mostly arid and semi-arid experience perennial droughts in many parts - but it has never become a famine - because kenya gov and indeed NGOS - have always moved in to supply food and other interventions.

Understand difference btw DROUGHT and FAMINE. Ghana had a famine in 1983 - and droughts are common all over the world.

While everyone was rushing to help Ethiopia thanks to KENYA MEDIA - Ghana famine was swept under the rug - leading to catastrophe it became.

Just30:
You are deflecting to Ethiopia

I said, Kenya experience farmine every year with 6 million Kenyans at risk of starvation.... That is terribly horrific for any human society...

No wonder Humanitarian organisations have pitched camps closure and use pics from Kenyan to convince the world to donate more money...



Ghana had an abundance of food because of huge food import during crop failures of 1983...
So Ghanaians did not starve to death

Just30:
see this kid from a lazy country where they can't own anything except living in slums which is they onlything they can own...

Tell me home she will dominate in a country where she is just an employee?

Kwame is the best thing that happens to your country Kenya, he birthed Kenya while Kenyans were still thirsty for the blood of their fellow kenyans..

Just30 don't mind that mad man! In West Africa we build estates to benefit our people. To move them out from slums. But in Kenya, they build to benefit their white masters. While they wallow in slums.

Nigeria cannot even wipe herself - leave alone building anything. First fix the insecurity.

Kuruptnigga:
Just30 don't mind that mad man! In West Africa we build estates to benefit our people. To move them out from slums. But in Kenya, they build to benefit their white masters. While they wallow in slums.

rvp2018:
Kenya being mostly arid and semi-arid experience perennial droughts in many parts - but it has never become a famine - because kenya gov and indeed NGOS - have always moved in to supply food and other interventions.

Understand difference btw DROUGHT and FAMINE. Ghana had a famine in 1983 - and droughts are common all over the world.

While everyone was rushing to help Ethiopia thanks to KENYA MEDIA - Ghana famine was swept under the rug - leading to catastrophe it became.

Drought and Farmine are recurring events in your country, Yearly...

Your president and other gov't official know about it....and talk about it yearly..
https://www.google.com/search?q=famine+in+kenya&rlz=1C1CHBF_enGH801US801&oq=farmine+in+ken&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0i13l2j0i22i30l7.7664j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

read for yourself

Kenya had a worse farmine in 1969

They behave like slaves

Kuruptnigga:
Just30 don't mind that mad man! In West Africa we build estates to benefit our people. To move them out from slums. But in Kenya, they build to benefit their white masters. While they wallow in slums.

You dont get it. Ghana had famine in 1983-84. Nigeria had one in 1960s in Biafra region after gov blockade leading to thousands of death. Kenya has always had robust drought response. Kenya media helped highlight many regional famines - like Ethiopia one - leading to intervention - sadly nobody remembered Ghana in 1980s.

Just30:
Drought and Farmine are recurring events in your country, Yearly...

Your president and other gov't official know about it....and talk about it yearly..
https://www.google.com/search?q=famine+in+kenya&rlz=1C1CHBF_enGH801US801&oq=farmine+in+ken&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0i13l2j0i22i30l7.7664j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

read for yourself

Kenya had a worse farmine in 1969

rvp2018:
You dont get it. Ghana had famine in 1983-84. Nigeria had one in 1960s in Biafra region after gov blockade leading to thousands of death. Kenya has always had robust drought response. Kenya media helped highlight many regional famines - like Ethiopia one - leading to intervention - sadly nobody remembered Ghana in 1980s.

Which robust drought response in Kenya leads 6 million Kenyans starving yearly needing food aid from Ghana, Turkey and China?
Kenya is like North Korea, both countries are extremely lazy and led by dictators

Kenya is the only country in Africa that suffers from serious levels of Hunger yearly..

Kenya drought response include annual assessment of those who may need food - and they are promptly assisted. Famine is when people die in thousands or millions like happen in Biafra, Ghana and Ethiopia for lack of food.

Right now in Nigeria North - nobody even knows what hell is going on - because insecurity - you can bet millions are dying in North East for lack of food.

Drought. Wars and such cause famine - and you prevent famine by intervening.

Just30:
Which robust drought response in Kenya leads 6 million Kenyans starving yearly needing food aid from Ghana, Turkey and China?
Kenya is like North Korea, both countries are extremely lazy and led by dictators

rvp2018:
Kenya drought response include assessment of those who may need food - and they are promptly assisted. Famine is when people die in thousands or millions like happen in Biafra, Ghana and Ethiopia.

Right now in Nigeria North - nobody even knows what hell is going on - because insecurity - you can bet millions are dying in North East for lack of food.

Drought. Wars and such cause famine - and you prevent famine by intervening.

So the Kenyans dying in the thousands of starvation yearly are not facing famine... er?


WORLD FOOD PROGRAMME will give you a slap very soon...


Famine in Kenya is so extreme such that, World Food Programme has to donate food yearly to reduce the number of death in Kenya...

Currently as we speak, 15 million kenyans are facing starvation...

That is more people than the population of Ghana in 1983

I hope you know what starvation is (means, the assistance doesn't reach them)

Where did you get that? Rarely does a kenya die for lack of food. Kenya gov and previously WFP would intervene. I worked for WFP before. WFP is now pretty much out of kenya now......

Just30:
So the Kenyans dying in the thousands of starvation yearly are not facing famine... er?


WORLD FOOD PROGRAMME will give you a slap very soon...


Famine in Kenya is so extreme such that, World Food Programme has to donate food yearly to reduce the number of death in Kenya...

Currently as we speak, 15 million kenyans are facing starvation...

That is more people than the population of Ghana in 1983

rvp2018:
Where did you get that? Rarely does a kenya die for lack of food. Kenya gov and previously WFP would intervene. I worked for WFP before. WFP is now pretty much out of kenya now......

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-47624616




In Ghana 3 years of drought and extended Harmattan which led to the 1983 famine, not a single person died of hunger and starvation.....

Vlain:



Ignoring ur wall of ignorant text- would have love to pick out ur stupidity word for word but then again we might be distracted from the real subject of discussion.


So tell me where is all this infrastructure u listed in this video.Mombasa looks like a mess- the business district appears to be a crappy open air market with broken down roads and hideous worn out buildings. Literally everything in Mombasa has lost vigor and hope. If this is the chaos u compare with Abuja then u must be vigorously mad.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkmVEkUqBGo

You have exposed their second best city. Mombasa is totally crap!!!!

https://www.jstor.org/stable/722349
Probably hundred thousands died in 1984 in Ghana.
Famine is only DECLARED WHEN PEOPLE DYE from hunger.
So if you mean Ghana famine is special - then madman - you need to see a shrink

Just30:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-47624616




In Ghana 3 years of drought and extended Harmattan which led to the 1983 famine, not a single person died of hunger and starvation.....

rvp2018:
https://www.jstor.org/stable/722349
Probably hundred thousands died in 1984 in Ghana

Next time dont use your own brain to assume again

Lunatic
Famine is only declared when food becomes scarce... and it has nothing to do with people dying


You like throwing around empty numbers

Tell me how people will die of starvation when there was an abundance of food for them..

rvp2018:
Nigeria cannot even wipe herself - leave alone building anything. First fix the insecurity.

With the problem Nigeria is facing, Nigeria is still many ahead of your ZOO.

Just30:


They behave like slaves

Exactly!!

Kuruptnigga:
Just30 don't mind that mad man! In West Africa we build estates to benefit our people. To move them out from slums. But in Kenya, they build to benefit their white masters. While they wallow in slums.

Am I missing something here or is this not your pride, Abuja?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5xr_68Uxg4

Obakillah:


Am I missing something here or is this not your pride, Abuja?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5xr_68Uxg4

It's still better than kibera, mathare and rest. Kibera is all over the internet. Kibera the world largest slum

Kuruptnigga:
It's still better than kibera, mathare and rest. Kibera is all over the internet. Kibera the world largest slum

Are we supposed to compare slums now? Pea brain.

Everyday food is scarce - famine is when people start dying from hunger - like happened in kenya in 1889, Nigeria in 1960s in Biafra region, Ghana and Ethiopia in 1980s, and Somalis recently. Irish famine, China had several, amongst many other countries.

Famine is not just a joke. As we peak they are millions in Ghana now who are food insecure - but that has not to reach FAMINE. Famine is as serious as COVID or ebola epidemics.

"Famine is not a word that we use lightly," said Erminio Sacco, a food security expert with the Food and Agricultural Organization (FAO).

According to the IPC scale, famine exists when at least 20 percent of the population in a specific area has extremely limited access to basic food; acute malnutrition exceeds 30 percent; and the death rate exceeds two per 10,000 people per day for the entire population.

"This scientific methodology helps to avoid famine becoming a term misused for political reasons," Sacco said.

In Africa there have been several famines in recent decades, from Biafra in Nigeria in the 1970s to the 1983-1985 Ethiopian famine, which ushered in a new form of celebrity fundraising and unprecedented media attention on the suffering.

The last famine in the world was in Somalia in 2011, which killed an estimated 260,000 people.

Just30:
Next time dont use your own brain to assume again

Lunatic
Famine is only declared when food becomes scarce... and it has nothing to do with people dying


You like throwing around empty numbers

Tell me how people will die of starvation when there was an abundance of food for them..

NTSA:


Seems you have comprehension issues let me make it clearer.if you re-read my post this is what I have been saying.
Kdf rarely get any operational deployement Inside kenyan territory .The last operational deployment in Northern Kenya was during shifta war (1960s and 70s .)
As of now there has not been any kdf operation in Northern Kenya .fyi (Lamu is not in Northern Kenya.The lamu archipelago is a group islands along the Kenyan coast near the border with Somalia.)
The lamu operation was in 2014 code named operation" Linda Boni."Which was a multi agency operation not a KDF operation.

Thank you for finally admitting the obvious. You and your brother claimed kdf never get deployed within Kenya without the approval of the parliament.
Now I have shown you kdf as at 2014 was not only deployed within Kenya but without the approval of the parliament. End of discussion.

kikuyu1:


For real, why do you insist on the MOST puerile of redundant exchanges? You reduce everything to childish back and forth and one upmanship.
I know its ONLY the net SPECIFICALLY NL but it's feminine!?

Let me leave you and EVERYONE else with the desiderata whose words have given meaning for ALMOST a century.

I got this from your attached piece:
speak your truth quietly but clearly, and listen to others even the dull and the ignorant.
That's exactly what I have done all along, especially the last part- when it comes to people like you.

obaaderemi:
I got this from your attached piece:
speak your truth quietly but clearly, and listen to others even the dull and the ignorant.
That's exactly what I have done all along, especially the last part- when it comes to people like you.

At least I tried. Continue barking at EVERYONE: wetin concern me?
Ohh, well!

Operation Linda Boni was 2015 - a multi-agency operation led by police (civil-military operation) - and the KDF act was amended to remove parliamentary approval for internal deployment.

4. Section 32 of the principal Act is amended by
deleting subsection (1) and substituting therefor the
following new subsection-
(1) Pursuant to Article 24](3)(c) of the Constitution,
the Defence Council shall deploy the Defence Forces in
any part of Kenya affected by unrest or instability to restore
peace upon approval by the National Assembly.

obaaderemi:
Thank you for finally admitting the obvious. You and your brother claimed kdf never get deployed within Kenya without the approval of the parliament.
Now I have shown you kdf as at 2014 was not only deployed within Kenya but without the approval of the parliament. End of discussion.

rvp2018:
Kenya economy was anchored by London School of Economics(LSE) trained economist Finance minister Kibaki (later president) and Tom Mboya - who developed 1965 Kenya sessional paper no 10 - Sessional Paper Number 10 on African Socialism and its Application to Planning" - like we now have VIsion 2030.

This was the thinking of two greatest kenyans - the economic blueprint that kenya would use for next two decades.
http://www.treasury.gov.za/coopbank/publications/Kenya%20document.pdf

“One of our problems is to decide how much priority we should give in investing in less developed
provinces .

To make the economy as a whole grow as fast as possible, development money should
be invested where it will yield the largest increase in output. This approach will clearly favour the
development of areas having abundant natural resources, good land and rainfall, transport and
power facilities, and people receptive to and active in development. A million pounds invested in
one area may raise net output by £20,000 while its use in another may yield an increase of
£100,000. This is a clear case in which investment in the second area is the wise decision because
the country is £80,000 per annum better off by so doing and is therefore in a position to aid the
first area by making grants or subsidized loans

We were lucky enough to have such bright minds just after independence. Now that were well on way of developing the whole of the Northern corridor, focus should now shift to Lappset and opening up of North Eastern.