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MaxInDHouse:
Before going into any book i'll like to know your views about ONE God!

Will God accept contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines all in His name?

2dominate:
Okay, I believe in the ones of God and that Muhammad saw is his last law bearing Prophet/ the whole issue of Jesus from the Christian point of view contradicts the attributes of total justice and mercy of God.
I don't believe God attributes to be contradictory nor any of the doctrines in his name

MaxInDHouse:
Good!

Sorry that i placed your conviction one after the other, so prepare your mind ready for thought provoking questions on the highlighted because that's our difference now!

I don't believe Muhammad has anything to do with the true God and you also don't believe Jesus' death makes any sense regarding salvation.

So both of us must calmly reason deeply on the two, no need to be biased because neither Jesus nor Muhammad is our family they're both from the East!
Yeah that will be nice,
But before we proceed i would like to inform you that i believe in jesus as to be a prophet of God and that he did not die on the cross but lived 120 years on earth.

Splinz:
I think that's right. After all like they say, "You can't be more Catholic than the pope". In the same vein, Maximus and others can't be more JWs than the GB.

MaxInDHouse:
Good!

Sorry that i placed your conviction one after the other, so prepare your mind ready for thought provoking questions on the highlighted because that's our difference now!

I don't believe Muhammad has anything to do with the true God and you also don't believe Jesus' death makes any sense regarding salvation.

So both of us must calmly reason deeply on the two, no need to be biased because neither Jesus nor Muhammad is our family they're both from the East!

2dominate:
[/quote]But before we proceed i would like to inform you that i believe in jesus as to be a prophet of God and that he did not die on the cross but lived 120 years on earth.

MaxInDHouse:
Whatever you and i beleive about those two Easterners are irrelevant for now!

I told you that i'm already an atheist before JWs began building my faith in God again, so you can't place anything on the foundation JWs built, neither can i place anything on the foundation Islam built in your heart.
Therefore we have to start from the beginning.

Who is God and what are His undisputable attributes?

Let's start from there before going into any of the so called Abrahamic religions.

Adam, Eve, Noah, Abraham, Moses or Jesus are all characters found in books written by people from the East. Please let's talk about what you and i perceive whenever we hear the noun "GOD"


But before we proceed i would like to inform you that i believe in jesus as to be a prophet of God and that he did not die on the cross but lived 120 years on earth.

MaxInDHouse:
Whenever faithless people want to antagonize true believers they'll want to place their credulous thoughts on the sure foundation of FAITH!

I'm using this medium to invite all critics to come and show me how they can build FAITH in the heart of someone who never had of books about God.

Nothing like Adam to Jesus in his/her brains yet he must be saved according to God's word (Bible) let's see how far you people can go when it comes to real evangelizing work!

Meanwhile i have been to different places here in Nigeria with JWs and they were able to preach and teach the people who never had anything about Jesus nor Muhammad. Yet when we were about to leave the place come and see gifts these people brought with tears as if we shouldn't leave them again all because of the Good News about God's kingdom.

So let's hear you people talk to someone who never heard of the Bible or Qur'an before!

MaxInDHouse:
Whatever you and i beleive about those two Easterners are irrelevant for now!

I told you that i'm already an atheist before JWs began building my faith in God again, so you can't place anything on the foundation JWs built, neither can i place anything on the foundation Islam built in your heart.
Therefore we have to start from the beginning.

Who is God and what are His undisputable attributes?

Let's start from there before going into any of the so called Abrahamic religions.

Adam, Eve, Noah, Abraham, Moses or Jesus are all characters found in books written by people from the East. Please let's talk about what you and i perceive whenever we hear the noun "GOD"


But before we proceed i would like to inform you that i believe in jesus as to be a prophet of God and that he did not die on the cross but lived 120 years on earth.

2dominate:
God is a supreme being, He is one, He is Independent and Besought of all, He begets not nor is He begotten, and there is none like unto him
This is my view of God, I'm sorry to disappoint you but my belief is from birth and I've not gotten the opportunity to think of God from another point of view because I'm satisfied with this my belief.

maximunimpact:
True believers

“Jehovah God is the Grand Identifier of his true messengers. He identifies them by making the messages he delivers through them come true. Jehovah is also the Great Exposer of false messengers. How does he expose them? He frustrates their signs and predictions. In this way he shows that they are self-appointed prognosticators, whose messages really spring from their own false reasoning – yes, their own fleshly thinking!” (Watchtower, 1997 May 1, pg. 8 ).

MaxInDHouse:
@2dominate

If you agree on these four qualities about the God you know from infancy then we can proceed to the next stage which is:

How did we get here?
What is God's purpose for creating us here?

Please try to include those four qualities how they are related to the God you know while telling us about His purposes!

MaxInDHouse:
@2dominate

If you agree on these four qualities about the God you know from infancy then we can proceed to the next stage which is:

How did we get here?
What is God's purpose for creating us here?

Please try to include those four qualities how they are related to the God you know while telling us about His purposes!

maximunimpact:
Here's the next topic Mr publish evidence

Watchtower claims to be the only organization to find scriptural guidance yet condemns the Vatican for doing the same thing.


Watchtower is the only organization able to interpret the Bible:

“We all need help to understand the Bible, and we cannot find the Scriptural guidance we need outside the ‘faithful and discreet slave’ organization,'” (Watchtower, Feb. 15, 1981).

The Vatican is the only organization able to interpret the Bible:

“The Vatican belittles Bible study by claiming it is the only organization authorized and qualified to interpret the Bible,” (Watchtower, July 1, 1943, p. 201).

Let's discuss this house

2dominate:
To me God must possess more than this Four qualities.
Power to me means the ability to do anything
Justice means to be fair to all , right
Wisdom to me God knows everything even what is to come
Love, ofcourse love for all that requires love

His purpose for creating us is so that we can know him,we can be obtain his attributes through his worship and begin to display these attributes our self

maximunimpact:
Our next topic below house:

“Jehovah God is the Grand Identifier of his true messengers. He identifies them by making the messages he delivers through them come true. Jehovah is also the Great Exposer of false messengers. How does he expose them? He frustrates their signs and predictions. In this way he shows that they are self-appointed prognosticators, whose messages really spring from their own false reasoning – yes, their own fleshly thinking!” (Watchtower, 1997 May 1, pg. 8 ).

In light of the above quote from Watch Tower, putting into consideration of all predictions made by Watch-tower that have failed to come to pass do you think they true messengers of Jehovah?

The floor is open for discussion.....

MaxInDHouse:
No JW will attend to any topic that i did not raise on this thread so you can KNOWMORE from your friends who are raising the topics!

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KNOWMORE56:
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Watchtower is the only organization able to interpret the Bible:

“We all need help to understand the Bible, and we cannot find the Scriptural guidance we need outside the ‘faithful and discreet slave’ organization,'” (Watchtower, Feb. 15, 1981).

The Vatican is the only organization able to interpret the Bible:

“The Vatican belittles Bible study by claiming it is the only organization authorized and qualified to interpret the Bible,” (Watchtower, July 1, 1943, p. 201)...."[b]

maxInDHouse, Janosky, DappaD, Janosky, canticles, captivator,barristter07,

What do you learn from the above?

I learn that all the things Watch Tower condemned others, they are doing the same.

I perceive they were/are doing so out of envy and jealousy...

If there's any thing (at all) that they have condemned others without them doing the same, I would like to KNOWMORE...

MaxInDHouse:
No JW will attend to any topic that i did not raise on this thread so you can KNOWMORE from your friends who are raising the topics!

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Kingsnairaland:
The only reason their predictions fail is because they changed the Bible
If they used the main Bible they will easily get the calculations of every thing
They will calculate that no one should know or can be able to know when the Armageddom will happen
They will calculate that as man has body soul spirit God has his own three part too

Life will be easy if they don't twist Bible

MaxInDHouse:
I don't know how many are there referred to as God maybe one or two or more persons but i perceived He/She/It must possess these qualities~ LOVE, POWER, JUSTICE, WISDOM.

©LOVE must always reflect in whatever He does because everything i see around reflects LOVE so the One who is responsible for all these things must have love greater than what anyone can imagine.

©POWER is the ability to work. So God must be proactive and whoever wants to talk about God must show me what this God is doing as WORK in line with His will.

©JUSTICE means impartiality or fairness to all. So God must be fair to all, no one or race is special without a reason. God must explain why He chose to favour some since no one is related to Him.

©WISDOM is practical application of knowledge which brings lasting benefits. So God must plan ahead of future prospect even before anyone can perceive it!

So let's see if both of us agree before we proceed to the next stage.

maximunimpact:
Our next topic of discussion is ready!

The sower in the Matthew 13 parable is Satan or Jesus?

Let's see what Watct tower have to say below:

Claim one: The sower of the mustard seed is Satan

“It is the fake ‘kingdom of the heavens,’ the counterfeit, namely, Christendom, that is filled with these symbolic birds, ‘the sons of the wicked one.’ Today it is big enough to hold them all. In the parable, the ‘man’ that sowed the mustard grain pictures the ‘wicked one,’ Satan the Devil. Outstandingly in the fourth century C.E. Satan the Devil planted or specially cultivated this symbolic ‘mustard grain’ of contaminated, adulterated, imitation Christianity,” (Man’s Salvation Out Of World Distress, 1975, p. 208).


Claim two: The sower of the mustard seed is Jesus


“In the days of Jesus Christ and his apostles, the nation of Israel was just as apostate as in the days of Jeremiah and Hosea. In fact, it was the generation of Israel that brought about the death of Jesus the Messiah and that persecuted his apostles and first-century disciples. Such Israelites especially were the ones to whom Jesus, as well as Isaiah, referred as having their eyes plastered shut, their ears unresponsive, and their hearts unreceptive so that there was no spiritual healing for them. (Isa. 6:9, 10; Matt. 13:13-15; Acts 28:24-28) Hence that apostate generation suffered national calamity in 70 C.E. So, now, does anyone ask the question, How could Jesus as the Sower of the parable plant the symbolic mustard grain and yet have it become a tree of a foreign kind, the corrupt counterfeit called Christendom? The experience of Jehovah God with the ancient nation of Israel gives the divine answer to such a questioner!” (Watchtower, Oct. 1, 1975, p. 600).

How can anyone trust an organisation that speaks from both sides of the mouth?

Let's discus house....

true2god:
An organization whose leaders, the so-called governing body, drink liquor and other hard substances before opening the Bible will always talk trash as usual. Thank God people are no longer giving these drunk any attention.

MaxInDHouse:
Many people worship freely from their heart and they believe in the God they're serving but Jesus told his listeners to be careful of the teachings of credulous religious leaders! Matthew 16:6, 12

So how can we be sure that we are worshiping in the right place where we'll get timely spiritual nourishment?

Our next topic will be:

Which group is doing God's will today?

Once again you're welcome!

maximunimpact:
Yea! we already know the ORGANISATION doing his will today, thesame organisation that made the statement below

“Jehovah God is the Grand Identifier of his true messengers. He identifies them by making the messages he delivers through them come true. Jehovah is also the Great Exposer of false messengers. How does he expose them? He frustrates their signs and predictions. In this way he shows that they are self-appointed prognosticators, whose messages really spring from their own false reasoning – yes, their own fleshly thinking!” (Watchtower, 1997 May 1, pg. 8 ).

Emusan:
See how perfect that article described their own organization.