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Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by maximunimpact(m): 6:39pm On Jul 22, 2021
OkCornel:
Were you a JW before?
Yeap, over 10yrs. I left 2018.

If you go through my post before 2018 you'll see how I defended JWs like MaxInDHouse is doing now
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by OkCornel(m): 6:41pm On Jul 22, 2021
maximunimpact:
Yeap, over 10yrs. I left 2018
Woah, over a decade!

What happened?
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by maximunimpact(m): 6:44pm On Jul 22, 2021
OkCornel:
Woah, over a decade!

What happened?
I studied bible outside watch tower and saw things more clearly
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by MaxInDHouse(op): 7:11pm On Jul 22, 2021
So if anyone wants to speak against JW.org think deeply over the two roads Jesus spoke about. It's not really about religion but Satan made it seem as if it's all about the religion of your choice. Rather it has to do with our line of thought Satan multiplied the few religious groups and gave them series of names to appear as if you are a Muslim different from a Christian or Buddhist or Judaist or atheist or agnostic.
The same line of thought that brings all of you together is the believe that human effort to make life better so you're in support of one government against the other, then you're brainwashed to pick up weapons or support the killing of your fellow believers (Christian) or fellowman (atheist) thinking it's about a better future prospect for you and your children!
That's the BROAD ROAD! No matter what religion you claim you're still interested in the effort of humans to bring about a change in the way things are going.

But the NARROW ROAD doesn't permit those traveling on it to switch anyhow, you can't even do that because it's just a path (the same line of thought) so you must maintain the straight path, meaning think alike with others on how life will be better for all which is God's Kingdom!


That's why all those on the broad road keep complaining about the narrow way (not those threading it) they feel it's foolish for sane people to keep threading the same path (thinking alike) when they can switch to any lane on their own broad road (choose between one politician or another)
Ask members of the board way if they see anything wrong in the next lane when they're about to criticize the narrow path they'll say "there's no problem" yet they're killing one another for it. And when you mention the narrow path and they'll flair up with disgust.
Ask those on the narrow path the same question and they'll tell you "this is the way, there's no other!" Isaiah 30:21

So when Jesus talked about his followers not been part of "the world" he wasn't talking about music, fashion, makeups, jewelries, trousers, alcohoic beverages and other things that's common around us. That's the thinking of the Pharisees!

Rather Jesus is talking about what people in the world are thinking about the future of mankind and how they're planning towards it! Matthew 6:25-34

May you have PEACE! smiley
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by MaxInDHouse(op): 7:22pm On Jul 22, 2021
OkCornel:
Woah, over a decade!
What happened?
He simply gave up on the narrow path and jumped to the broad road! smiley

Now his head is filled with passion for Politics and how a better future can be possible through human effort. So he's either supporting one Political party against another or moving with revolutionists either way he's prepared to shed blood since he believes that is the only way to change bad governance!

So he's expecting me a former military intelligence agent who already knew all the secret in politics to abandon the narrow path and join him in uncertainty! smiley

Well i just pity him because i know politicians very well, they'll just use persons like him as a scapegoat and continue playing their games.

Nothing's gonna change unless you kill your own people and the relative change will not last more than five decades. Your people will die and if you survive it you may not be part of those who will benefit at the end. The worst is that all your struggles has nothing to do with the true God who said you should wait patiently for His Kingdom to come!

So when i see people like him i just feel pity for him! smiley
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by MaxInDHouse(op): 7:26pm On Jul 22, 2021
I really feel for you my friend!

Do you see anything more than all what is in your head now?

Politics! Politics!! Politics!!!

Is all that you can see now! smiley

maximunimpact:
I studied bible outside watch tower and saw things more clearly

Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by Kingsnairaland(m): 7:33pm On Jul 22, 2021
maximunimpact:
Yeap, over 10yrs. I left 2018.

If you go through my post before 2018 you'll see how I defended JWs like MaxInDHouse is doing now
maximunimpact from your experience tell me why do you think they hate Jesus and the holy spirit so much
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by maximunimpact(m): 7:38pm On Jul 22, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
I really feel for you my friend!

Do you see anything more than all what is in your head now?

Politics! Politics!! Politics!!!

Is all that you can see now! smiley
Classic hypocrisy of JWs as usual grin

They condemn politics but sweem inside alcohol

Ask them why they'll say alcohol is not a sin but somehow politics is a sin grin

Compared to alcohol I chose politics
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by Kingsnairaland(m): 7:41pm On Jul 22, 2021
maximunimpact:
Classic hypocrisy of JWs as usual grin

They condemn politics but sweem inside alcohol

Ask them why they'll say alcohol is not a sin but somehow politics is a sin grin

Compared to alcohol I chose politics
thank God they quit politics so that we won't have any of them in the government house talking rubbish to people there lololololol
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by MaxInDHouse(op): 7:44pm On Jul 22, 2021
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm,

Well Jesus drank alcohoic beverages and ran away from Politics! smiley

maximunimpact:
Classic hypocrisy of JWs as usual grin
They condemn politics but sweem inside alcohol
Ask them why they'll say alcohol is not a sin but somehow politics is a sin grin
Compared to alcohol I chose politics
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by MaxInDHouse(op): 7:45pm On Jul 22, 2021
Jesus never participate in Politics so that he won't be in the midst of politicians playing games with people's lives! smiley

Kingsnairaland:
thank God they quit politics so that we won't have any of them in the government house talking rubbish to people there lololololol
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by Kingsnairaland(m): 7:50pm On Jul 22, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
Jesus never participate in Politics so that he won't be in the midst of politicians playing games with people's lives! smiley
Jesus had politicians as friends
Many of them
The reason he did not enter politics is because many times they wanted to install him as king which was not his calling at that time

Mind you Jesus as God is already king of kings
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by maximunimpact(m): 7:50pm On Jul 22, 2021
Kingsnairaland:
maximunimpact from your experience tell me why do you think they hate Jesus and the holy spirit so much
The simple answer is CONTROL!

Governing body wants total control of how their members think, they went as far as claiming fruits of the Spirit such as prophecy, dreaming dreams, speaking in tongues, seeing vision, deserning etc have all "passed away" so no one will come up any divine message not approved by watchtower.

Holy spirit was given a back seat even though they pay lip service that they are guided by the spirit.

Even Jesus role as Head of the church have been taken over by the 8-men-crew who now "represent him" in supplying spiritual food to their subjects.

So in essence holy spirit and Jesus is a threat to their self appointed position as the only channel through which Jehovah communicate to mankind. They also took over as mediators between God and mankind which is why they demand "dedication" to the Governing Body as a requirement for salvation.
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by MaxInDHouse(op): 7:52pm On Jul 22, 2021
It's time to compare what you have in mind to Jesus' line of thought (narrow path)

Did Jesus drink alcohol? According to God's law alcohoic beverages is not a sin so Jesus drank responsibly! Luke 7:31-35

Did Jesus participate in Politics? According to God's law only the Christ can bring a better life in God's Kingdom so Jesus avoided Politics! Luke 4:5-7; John 6:15

You guys will study the Bible with JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES whether you like it or not! smiley
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by Kingsnairaland(m): 7:53pm On Jul 22, 2021
maximunimpact:
The simple answer is CONTROL!

Governing body wants total control of how their members think, they went as far as claiming fruits of the Spirit such as prophecy, dreaming dreams, speaking in tongues, seeing vision, deserning etc have all "passed away" so no one will come up any divine message not approved by watchtower.

Holy spirit was given a back seat even though they pay lip service that they are guided by the spirit.

Even Jesus role as Head of the church have been taken over by the 8-men-crew who now "represent him" in supplying spiritual food to their subjects.

So in essence holy spirit and Jesus is a threat to their self appointed position as the only channel through which Jehovah communicate to mankind. They also took over as mediators between God and mankind which is why they demand "dedication" to the Governing Body as a requirement for salvation.
my goodness shocking am sad we need to pray for this people rather than condemn them this is a strong yoke to bear

How did God deliver you from this yoke maximunimpact
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by maximunimpact(m): 7:54pm On Jul 22, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
It's time to compare what you have in mind to Jesus' line of thought (narrow path)

Did Jesus drink alcohol? According to God's law alcohoic beverages is not a sin so Jesus drank responsibly! Luke 7:31-35

Did Jesus participate in Politics? According to God's law only the Christ can bring a better life in God's Kingdom so Jesus avoided Politics! Luke 4:5-7; John 6:15

You guys will study the Bible with JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES whether you like it or not! smiley


No more freedom of worship abi grin

Even without real power they want to force everyone to study with them....

Peaceful religious group indeed grin
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by Kingsnairaland(m): 7:57pm On Jul 22, 2021
maximunimpact:
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No more freedom of worship abi grin

Even without real power they want to force everyone to study with them....

Peaceful religious group indeed grin
I will call it faith terrorist
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by maximunimpact(m): 8:04pm On Jul 22, 2021
Kingsnairaland:
my goodness shocking am sad we need to pray for this people rather than condemn them this is a strong yoke to bear

How did God deliver you from this yoke maximunimpact
I broke one of their core rules: NEVER STUDY BIBLE WITH APOSTATES!

I studied with like minds outside the organisation which is abomination to them grin
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by achorladey: 8:08pm On Jul 22, 2021
maximunimpact:
The simple answer is CONTROL!

Governing body wants total control of how their members think, they went as far as claiming fruits of the Spirit such as prophecy, dreaming dreams, speaking in tongues, seeing vision, deserning etc have all "passed away" so no one will come up any divine message not approved by watchtower.

Holy spirit was given a back seat even though they pay lip service that they are guided by the spirit.

Even Jesus role as Head of the church have been taken over by the 8-men-crew who now "represent him" in supplying spiritual food to their subjects.

So in essence holy spirit and Jesus is a threat to their self appointed position as the only channel through which Jehovah communicate to mankind. They also took over as mediators between God and mankind which is why they demand "dedication" to the Governing Body as a requirement for salvation.
This dedication of a thing made me go back to what they do when a new Kingdom hall is BUILT.

Earlier on this thread the Op and his brothers were making a case against falseprophet words that member gets dedicated to the religious leaders and the organization by extension. Many of them countered saying no their dedication is to Jehovah.

So back to the kingdom hall, when a new Kingdom hall is built, it is dedicated to Jehovah. Later and in recent times what is dedicated to Jehovah is sold, to those they call Christendom (empire of false religion).

At what point are these kingdom halls undedicated by Jehovah in order to allow his representatives on earth to sell it to pastorpreneurs grin grin

Is this not a testament that these kingdom halls are dedicated in reality to men - their religious leaders after all the God who they dedicate it to don't dwell in man made houses or temples? grin grin grin
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by Kingsnairaland(m): 8:11pm On Jul 22, 2021
maximunimpact:
I broke one of their core rules: NEVER STUDY BIBLE WITH APOSTATES!

I studied with like minds outside the organisation which is abomination to them grin
in order words those in the cult lack knowledge of what truth is
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by achorladey: 8:20pm On Jul 22, 2021
Kingsnairaland:
thank God they quit politics so that we won't have any of them in the government house talking rubbish to people there lololololol
Oh how I wish it is easy for them to completely isolate from politics but reality tells me members hold position in the civil service and many government agency scattered all over this country including law enforcement agencies. You bet in one way or the other they get involved in politics.

When minimum wage are fought, reality tells me they don't have to be at the forefront of the agitation(which are most times politics in nature) but they gladly accept the benefits that emanate from such agitations grin grin. Directly or indirectly they are involved in politics. Politics is not restricted to carrying voters card jare or be a card carrying member of a political party
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by maximunimpact(m): 8:26pm On Jul 22, 2021
achorladey:
This dedication of a thing made me go back to what they do when a new Kingdom hall is BUILT.

Earlier on this thread the Op and his brothers were making a case against falseprophet words that member gets dedicated to the religious leaders and the organization by extension. Many of them countered saying no their dedication is to Jehovah.

So back to the kingdom hall, when a new Kingdom hall is built, it is dedicated to Jehovah. Later and in recent times what is dedicated to Jehovah is sold, to those they call Christendom (empire of false religion).

At what point are these kingdom halls undedicated by Jehovah in order to allow his representatives on earth to sell it to pastorpreneurs grin grin

Is this not a testament that these kingdom halls are dedicated in reality to men - their religious leaders after all the God who they dedicate it to don't dwell in man made houses or temples? grin grin grin
The dedication was never to God, both the building and members all are dedicated to the organisation.

Even their so called preaching work does not lead converts to Jesus, they lead them to the ORGANISATION grin
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by achorladey: 8:27pm On Jul 22, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
So if anyone wants to speak against JW.org think deeply over the two roads Jesus spoke about. It's not really about religion but Satan made it seem as if it's all about the religion of your choice. Rather it has to do with our line of thought Satan multiplied the few religious groups and gave them series of names to appear as if you are a Muslim different from a Christian or Buddhist or Judaist or atheist or agnostic.
The same line of thought that brings all of you together is the believe that human effort to make life better so you're in support of one government against the other, then you're brainwashed to pick up weapons or support the killing of your fellow believers (Christian) or fellowman (atheist) thinking it's about a better future prospect for you and your children!
That's the BROAD ROAD! No matter what religion you claim you're still interested in the effort of humans to bring about a change in the way things are going.

But the NARROW ROAD doesn't permit those traveling on it to switch anyhow, you can't even do that because it's just a path (the same line of thought) so you must maintain the straight path, meaning think alike with others on how life will be better for all which is God's Kingdom!


That's why all those on the broad road keep complaining about the narrow way (not those threading it) they feel it's foolish for sane people to keep threading the same path (thinking alike) when they can switch to any lane on their own broad road (choose between one politician or another)
Ask members of the board way if they see anything wrong in the next lane when they're about to criticize the narrow path they'll say "there's no problem" yet they're killing one another for it. And when you mention the narrow path and they'll flair up with disgust.
Ask those on the narrow path the same question and they'll tell you "this is the way, there's no other!" Isaiah 30:21

So when Jesus talked about his followers not been part of "the world" he wasn't talking about music, fashion, makeups, jewelries, trousers, alcohoic beverages and other things that's common around us. That's the thinking of the Pharisees!

Rather Jesus is talking about what people in the world are thinking about the future of mankind and how they're planning towards it! Matthew 6:25-34

May you have PEACE! smiley
Rather it has to do with our line of thought...... MaxInDHouse

Do you and every member have same line of thought in the religious organization you belong?

A. Yes.

B. No.

C. Answering this question will place my organization automatically under Satan's organization.

D. I choose to look elsewhere.


Note: look before you dive grin
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by maximunimpact(m): 8:28pm On Jul 22, 2021
achorladey:
Oh how I wish it is easy for them to completely isolate from politics but reality tells me members hold position in the civil service and many government agency scattered all over this country including law enforcement agencies. You bet in one way or the other they get involved in politics.

When minimum wage are fought, reality tells me they don't have to be at the forefront of the agitation(which are most times politics in nature) but they gladly accept the benefits that emanate from such agitations grin grin. Directly or indirectly they are involved in politics. Politics is not restricted to carrying voters card jare or be a card carrying member of a political party
Shebi MaxInDHouse say he's CIA agent, thesame agency that plays politics in the world stage grin
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by achorladey: 8:31pm On Jul 22, 2021
maximunimpact:
The dedication was never to God, both the building and members all are dedicated to the organisation.

Even their so called preaching work does not lead converts to Jesus, they lead them to the ORGANISATION grin
The reason the second baptismal question remains in association with Jehovah's organization grin grin

A popular commenter here will definitely come and tell us that Jehovah's organization aka WTBTS is synonymous or a synonym for Jehovah grin grin
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by achorladey: 8:36pm On Jul 22, 2021
maximunimpact:
Shebi MaxInDHouse say he's CIA agent, thesame agency that plays politics in the world stage grin
He will say then he was in another religious group. Now that he has decided to be a Jehovah's witness, he no longer participate in politics. He should be in a better position to understand what politics mean but his new beliefs is blocking the reality before his eyes.
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by maximunimpact(m): 8:38pm On Jul 22, 2021
achorladey:
The reason the second baptismal question remains in association with Jehovah's organization grin grin

A popular commenter here will definitely come and tell us that Jehovah's organization aka WTBTS is synonymous or a synonym for Jehovah grin grin
grin
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by Kingsnairaland(m): 8:48pm On Jul 22, 2021
maximunimpact:
Shebi MaxInDHouse say he's CIA agent, thesame agency that plays politics in the world stage grin
he has retired lololololol
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by achorladey:
Janosky:
Your God died for your sins.
John 3:16 & Romans 8:3, Jesus Christ & Paul says you no follow come.
Bros, you have agreed.
grin grin
Matthew 27:46, who did your God beg to save his life?

John 17:2-7, Acts 15:14,17 Jesus belongs to the GROUP chosen by his God & Father.
Una see the Bros wey dey troll Jehovah's servants in public, you dey see the truth of Acts15:14,17 & John 17:2-7 in your Bible?
Matthew 4:10 & John 20:17, did Jesus Christ command you, maximumimpact to worship him?

Point of correction: Salvation of Jehovah's servants is NOT in the hands of any man.
Bros, roger that.



That Bible in your shelf was written by men who spoke from both sides of the mouth.

Bros, is your eyes and heart open to admit that Matthew 26:31-35 is the very same accusations you made against JWs?

1 Samuel 16:6-7 , prophet Samuel prophecied from both sides of his mouth.
Bros, Roger that. grin grin


Matthew 26:31-35 We have confirmed it must be tough for you , Maximum impact putting up your own salvation in the hands of men, Bible writers who spoke from both sides of the mouth against Jesus Christ. grin grin
Point of correction: Salvation of Jehovah's servants is NOT in the hands of any man. Bros, roger that........ Janosky

The image below says something about the above grin grin

Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by Kingsnairaland(m): 8:50pm On Jul 22, 2021
maximunimpact:
grin
is it true that they believe that humans don't have a soul and spirit that they are Just like animals
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by Kingsnairaland(m): 8:52pm On Jul 22, 2021
achorladey:
Point of correction: Salvation of Jehovah's servants is NOT in the hands of any man. Bros, roger that.

The image below says something about the above grin grin
since 1914 failed what the next date they have fixed for the prediction
Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by maximunimpact(m): 8:57pm On Jul 22, 2021
Kingsnairaland:
is it true that they believe that humans don't have a soul and spirit that they are Just like animals
Yeap...that's pretty much what they teach new members only

As new converts gets deep into it, they soon realise there is a special group of "little flock" who goes to heaven immediately they die, to rule with Christ in heaven.

But here is where the confusion lies:

Why teach humans have no life after death to new members but still teach teach "experienced" ones that some of their members mysteriously develop a "spirit" that goes to heaven immediately they die?

Count it as one of their CONFUSIONS grin
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