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achorladey:
Point of correction: Salvation of Jehovah's servants is NOT in the hands of any man. Bros, roger that........ Janosky

The image below says something about the above

That's why I said earlier that their publications argue for and against themselves

Kingsnairaland:
since 1914 failed what the next date they have fixed for the prediction

They won't want to commit into pushing another date before their members. The situation and level of knowledge at their members disposal is enough worry for them at the moment. Pushing another date like they did in previous years won't sit well.

They will rather stick to we are in the last minutes of the last day of the last days.(hope you won't have headache reading that)

maximunimpact:


That's why I said earlier that their publications argue for and against themselves

And in recent times this arguing for and against can be seen in the way they coin their FAQs on the website and what is captured in their magazines and brochures.

achorladey:
And in recent times this arguing for and against can be seen in the way they coin their FAQs on the website and what is captured in their magazines and brochures.

do they believe in hell fire

Janosky:
Shebi your Son is your father?


In the image of who ?
According to your claim, "He (Adam) has become like one of us," Adam na true God too.

Bros, your deities are angels..
Go and preach that doctrine to Emusan, Hupernikao, PARACLETOS, true2god, maximumimpact, Rutherfo,Achorladey & ALL your fellow Polytheists worshipping 3 persons

Is Jesus God or not? If he's not give me your reasons let's cross check them in the Word...

KNOWMORE56:
Is Jesus God or not? If he's not give me your reasons let's cross check them in the Word...

they have their own forged Bible which they twist

Yes i also have politicians as friends the same way i often refer to you guys as "friends" but didn't enter politics because it's not the calling of JWs!

Kingsnairaland:
Jesus had politicians as friends
Many of them
The reason he did not enter politics is because many times they wanted to install him as king which was not his calling at that time

Mind you Jesus as God is already king of kings

MaxInDHouse:
Yes i also have politicians as friends the same way i often refer to you guys as "friends" but didn't enter politics because it's not the calling of JWs!

The friends I mean of Jesus is Jesus had politicians as his followers nor only friends
Many politicians were his followers

Matthew was a tax collector you can't be in that position and not be in politics

The kingdom of God the citizens are from every part of life work etc prostitute, thieves, all kinds of people

maximunimpact:
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No more freedom of worship abi
Even without real power they want to force everyone to study with them....
Peaceful religious group indeed

We are not the ones forcing you to come and chat with us it's your disturbed conscience!

You'll notice how all of you kept crowding this thread most especially you as if someone employed you to start working on my thread.

Well that's the spirit of the other organization it will make you restless when you know Jehovah has been approved of those you're opposing instead of going your own way you will continue to feel sad {Genesis 4:6-7} and start looking for ways to hurt them just like Cain did to Abel! Genesis 4:8

You'll notice how restless you've been and sad to the extent that you're looking forward to engage JWs on this forum in battle of words. Well we know why you're so much hurt but there's nothing we can do about it Jehovah is the ONE who put the enmity between light and darkness! Genesis 3:15

Tax collector a politician?

Well tax collectors back then are like local government tax workers and Matthew can't continue doing that work because the Jews despices anyone coming to tax them to pay the Romans while Matthew must go from house to house in preaching. Who will welcome such a person in his house?

Kingsnairaland:
The friends I mean of Jesus is Jesus had politicians as his followers nor only friends
Many politicians were his followers
Matthew was a tax collector you can't be in that position and not be in politics
The kingdom of God the citizens are from every part of life work etc prostitute, thieves, all kinds of people

MaxInDHouse:
Tax collector a politician?

Well tax collectors back then are like local government tax workers and Matthew can't continue doing that work because the Jews despices anyone coming to tax them to pay the Romans while Matthew must go from house to house in preaching. Who will welcome such a person in his house?

The Sanhedrin was the chief legislative body in Judea and was composed of Sadducees and Pharisees (Acts 23:6). It had political, legislative, judicial and religious functions. Members of the Sanhedrin were the equivalent of the congressmen and senators that represent us today.

The book of Mark calls Joseph of Arimathea a member of the “council,” which could refer to Jerusalem’s municipal government.

But the book of Luke clarifies that he belonged to the Sanhedrin that asked Pilate to execute Jesus, and says Joseph “had not consented to their purpose and deed.” Thus Mark’s statement that “almost all of the Sanhedrin wanted execution can be seen as hyperbole to indicate lopsided rather than 100 percent support.

John alone adds that fellow Sanhedrin member Nicodemus, who had defended Jesus during a prior dispute (John 7:50-52), joined Joseph of Arimathea in the burial of our great God the son of man

Read your Bible before you open mouth now Jesus had many political top rank as his followers infact they use to come at night secretly to ask him deep questions about the kingdom of God

There was no sector that Jesus did not have followers in fact I told u God's children are all over the world if people go to Mars tomorrow still you will see God's children there

MaxInDHouse:
Tax collector a politician?

Well tax collectors back then are like local government tax workers and Matthew can't continue doing that work because the Jews despices anyone coming to tax them to pay the Romans while Matthew must go from house to house in preaching. Who will welcome such a person in his house?

Whenever there are positions to fill POLITICS is involved. Even when people make decisions, politics is applied. Politics is not a narrow subject that you can fix into a narrowed channel of thinking enforced on you by some certain men who play politics in whatever decision they make

Take for example this meaning of politics below......


activities aimed at improving someone's status or increasing power within an organization

Compare it with what the following men were doing in this account

Then James and John, the sons of Zebedee, came to him. “Teacher,” they said, “we want you to do for us whatever we ask.” 36 “What do you want me to do for you?” he asked. 37 They replied, “Let one of us sit at your right and the other at your left in your glory.”


When the ten heard about this, they became indignant with James and John. 42 Jesus called them together and said, “You know that those who are regarded as rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them, and their high officials exercise authority over them. 43 Not so with you. Instead, whoever wants to become great among you must be your servant, 44 and whoever wants to be first must be slave of all. 45 For even the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many.”

That's politics for you. No dey reason politics using one dimension. Politics broad past that kind of mindset you dey bring come this platform. Even inside your house, you dey play politics there too.

E get reason why some said man is political by nature. Politics involves taking sides. Being politically neutral or ABSTENTION is equally a side you have taken in politics

Kingsnairaland:
The Sanhedrin was the chief legislative body in Judea and was composed of Sadducees and Pharisees (Acts 23:6). It had political, legislative, judicial and religious functions. Members of the Sanhedrin were the equivalent of the congressmen and senators that represent us today.

The book of Mark calls Joseph of Arimathea a member of the “council,” which could refer to Jerusalem’s municipal government.

But the book of Luke clarifies that he belonged to the Sanhedrin that asked Pilate to execute Jesus, and says Joseph “had not consented to their purpose and deed.” Thus Mark’s statement that “almost all of the Sanhedrin wanted execution can be seen as hyperbole to indicate lopsided rather than 100 percent support.

I don't have time to start repeating what i've already taught honest hearted followers on my thread. So if you're sincere with yourself go back and meditate on the topic "Two rival organizations" that's where i enlightened people following wholeheartedly that you can't be a politician without consenting to all the works of the flesh as stated @ Galatians 5:19-21 any attempt to stand out in the house (council) when they're making a decision means you're about to loose the seat! That's exactly what happened to Nicodemus and Joseph Arimathea!

John alone adds that fellow Sanhedrin member Nicodemus, who had defended Jesus during a prior dispute (John 7:50-52), joined Joseph of Arimathea in the burial of our great God the son of man

Read your Bible before you open mouth now Jesus had many political top rank as his followers infact they use to come at night secretly to ask him deep questions about the kingdom of God

There was no sector that Jesus did not have followers in fact I told u God's children are all over the world if people go to Mars tomorrow still you will see God's children there

Continue deceiving yourself!
Jesus said to Nicodemus:

"Now this is the basis for judgment: that the light has come into the world, but men have loved the darkness rather than the light, for their works were wicked"
John 3:19
Jesus also said:
"But whoever disowns me before men, I will also disown him before my Father who is in the heavens"
John 10:33

Is it not clear to everyone that Nicodemus and Joseph Arimathea have disown Jesus publicly?
My friend, all you need is to choose between the narrow path (JW organization) and broad road (Satan's organization) there is no other option!

If you're for JW (God's) organization everyone in your neighbourhood should know that you're one of those preaching and teaching about God's coming Kingdom under Jesus. 1Timothy 4:15
Hence you can't be pro-active in politics (Satan's organization) because people will know that you won't support selfish cravings, like prostitution, fornication, adultry, spiritism, stealing and so on which are all the things you must condone as a politician if you want to continue with that career! Galatians 5:19-21

Mr Trump thought Jesus is behind his political career the novice removed gay right (which all American past presidents saw and pretended they're not worried about it) from the American constitution, the misinformed Churchgoer thought Jesus will support him for a second term in office, where is Trump today?
For your information, he is the only incumbent American president that lost the seat in the past 30 years. WHY? He doesn't know the rules of Politics!

In Politics (Satan's organization) you can't maintain a single lane like God's organization (JWs) you must be prepared to switch lanes anytime the need arises.

That's the secret behind Nicodemus and Joseph Arimathea. Yes they love the truth Jesus is speaking but they can't defend him even when they had the opportunity to do so because their career is at stake!

Then the officers went back to the chief priests and Pharisees, and the latter said to them: “Why did you not bring him in?” The officers replied: “Never has any man spoken like this.” In turn the Pharisees answered: “You have not been misled also, have you? Not one of the rulers or of the Pharisees has put faith in him, has he? But this crowd who do not know the Law are accursed people.” Nic·o·deʹmus, who had come to him previously and who was one of them, said to them: “Our Law does not judge a man unless it first hears from him and learns what he is doing, does it?” In answer they said to him: “You are not also out of Galʹi·lee, are you? Search and see that no prophet is to be raised up out of Galʹi·lee! John 7:45-52

Nicodemus was silenced when it's time to defend his friend (Jesus) because his career is at stake. So it's either you remain loyal to JWs (God's organization) or you keep your loyalty for Politics (Satan's organization) Luke 16:13

If you're willing continue studying the Bible with Jehovah's Witnesses but if not you're free to follow the crowd (Satan's organization) Exodus 23:1-2

May you have PEACE!

MaxInDHouse:
I don't have time to start repeating what i've already taught honest hearted followers on my thread. So if you're sincere with yourself go back and meditate on the topic "Two rival organizations" that's where i enlightened people following wholeheartedly that you can't be a politician without consenting to all the works of the flesh as stated @ Galatians 5:19-21 any attempt to stand out in the house (council) when they're making a decision means you're about to loose the seat! That's exactly what happened to Nicodemus and Joseph Arimathea!



Continue deceiving yourself!
Jesus said to Nicodemus:

"Now this is the basis for judgment: that the light has come into the world, but men have loved the darkness rather than the light, for their works were wicked"
John 3:19
Jesus also said:
"But whoever disowns me before men, I will also disown him before my Father who is in the heavens"
John 10:33

Is it not clear to everyone that Nicodemus and Joseph Arimathea have disown Jesus publicly?
My friend, all you need is to choose between the narrow path (JW organization) and broad road (Satan's organization) there is no other option!

If you're for JW (God's) organization everyone in your neighbourhood should know that you're one of those preaching and teaching about God's coming Kingdom under Jesus. 1Timothy 4:15
Hence you can't be pro-active in politics (Satan's organization) because people will know that you won't support selfish cravings, like prostitution, fornication, adultry, spiritism, stealing and so on which are all the things you must condone as a politician if you want to continue with that career! Galatians 5:19-21

Mr Trump thought Jesus is behind his political career the novice removed gay right (which all American past presidents saw and pretended they're not worried about it) from the American constitution, the misinformed Churchgoer thought Jesus will support him for a second term in office, where is Trump today?
For your information, he is the only incumbent American president that lost the seat in the past 30 years. WHY? He doesn't know the rules of Politics!

In Politics (Satan's organization) you can't maintain a single lane like God's organization (JWs) you must be prepared to switch lanes anytime the need arises.

That's the secret behind Nicodemus and Joseph Arimathea. Yes they love the truth Jesus is speaking but they can't defend him even when they had the opportunity to do so because their career is at stake!

Then the officers went back to the chief priests and Pharisees, and the latter said to them: “Why did you not bring him in?” The officers replied: “Never has any man spoken like this.” In turn the Pharisees answered: “You have not been misled also, have you? Not one of the rulers or of the Pharisees has put faith in him, has he? But this crowd who do not know the Law are accursed people.” Nic·o·deʹmus, who had come to him previously and who was one of them, said to them: “Our Law does not judge a man unless it first hears from him and learns what he is doing, does it?” In answer they said to him: “You are not also out of Galʹi·lee, are you? Search and see that no prophet is to be raised up out of Galʹi·lee! John 7:45-52

Nicodemus was silenced when it's time to defend his friend (Jesus) because his career is at stake. So it's either you remain loyal to JWs (God's organization) or you keep your loyalty for Politics (Satan's organization) Luke 16:13

If you're willing continue studying the Bible with Jehovah's Witnesses but if not you're free to follow the crowd (Satan's organization) Exodus 23:1-2

May you have PEACE!

The Sanhedrin was the highest ruling council of the Jewish people. In the realm of your doctrines, that is JEHOVAH'S EARTHLY ORGANISATION. Reality tells me they were heavily involved in politics. You can clearly see the kind of politics going on between the Jehovah's earthly organization and Satan's organization (Roman government) in the death of Jesus Christ.

Same applies to Jehovah's earthly organization aka WTBTS today too. When asked to release some internal memo they keep during court cases and proceedings, they cry out that they should be under clergy penitent privilege like every other religious denominations.

Oga that's politics at play.

MaxInDHouse:
I don't have time to start repeating what i've already taught honest hearted followers on my thread. So if you're sincere with yourself go back and meditate on the topic "Two rival organizations" that's where i enlightened people following wholeheartedly that you can't be a politician without consenting to all the works of the flesh as stated @ Galatians 5:19-21 any attempt to stand out in the house (council) when they're making a decision means you're about to loose the seat! That's exactly what happened to Nicodemus and Joseph Arimathea!



Continue deceiving yourself!
Jesus said to Nicodemus:

"Now this is the basis for judgment: that the light has come into the world, but men have loved the darkness rather than the light, for their works were wicked"
John 3:19
Jesus also said:
"But whoever disowns me before men, I will also disown him before my Father who is in the heavens"
John 10:33

Is it not clear to everyone that Nicodemus and Joseph Arimathea have disown Jesus publicly?
My friend, all you need is to choose between the narrow path (JW organization) and broad road (Satan's organization) there is no other option!

If you're for JW (God's) organization everyone in your neighbourhood should know that you're one of those preaching and teaching about God's coming Kingdom under Jesus. 1Timothy 4:15
Hence you can't be pro-active in politics (Satan's organization) because people will know that you won't support selfish cravings, like prostitution, fornication, adultry, spiritism, stealing and so on which are all the things you must condone as a politician if you want to continue with that career! Galatians 5:19-21

Mr Trump thought Jesus is behind his political career the novice removed gay right (which all American past presidents saw and pretended they're not worried about it) from the American constitution, the misinformed Churchgoer thought Jesus will support him for a second term in office, where is Trump today?
For your information, he is the only incumbent American president that lost the seat in the past 30 years. WHY? He doesn't know the rules of Politics!

In Politics (Satan's organization) you can't maintain a single lane like God's organization (JWs) you must be prepared to switch lanes anytime the need arises.

That's the secret behind Nicodemus and Joseph Arimathea. Yes they love the truth Jesus is speaking but they can't defend him even when they had the opportunity to do so because their career is at stake!

Then the officers went back to the chief priests and Pharisees, and the latter said to them: “Why did you not bring him in?” The officers replied: “Never has any man spoken like this.” In turn the Pharisees answered: “You have not been misled also, have you? Not one of the rulers or of the Pharisees has put faith in him, has he? But this crowd who do not know the Law are accursed people.” Nic·o·deʹmus, who had come to him previously and who was one of them, said to them: “Our Law does not judge a man unless it first hears from him and learns what he is doing, does it?” In answer they said to him: “You are not also out of Galʹi·lee, are you? Search and see that no prophet is to be raised up out of Galʹi·lee! John 7:45-52

Nicodemus was silenced when it's time to defend his friend (Jesus) because his career is at stake. So it's either you remain loyal to JWs (God's organization) or you keep your loyalty for Politics (Satan's organization) Luke 16:13

If you're willing continue studying the Bible with Jehovah's Witnesses but if not you're free to follow the crowd (Satan's organization) Exodus 23:1-2

May you have PEACE!

Lie from now till eternity

The battle is not about JW and others

Your organization is of the devil so it holds no water

The battle is about...

Good vs evil

It not about organizations
It about God kingdom and devil kingdom

God is in the business of bringing people from the devil kingdom into his

Those in the kingdom of God can't not be taken away from God's hand

We fight the fight of faith
We don't fight JW

If we see any group or church saying what Bible did not say we condemn them with proves in the Bible

If your foundation is wrong God said the self Righteousness man will fail

Remove your mind thinking is organization fight that lie from who taught u

Bible said it light vs darkness
Jesus vs Satan
Truth vs lie
Believer vs un believer


God said he has many children scattered all over the world not only in an organizations

God said the world can't see the holy spirit in his children because his children are not of this world even though they are in the world


Every point I made I can show in Bible
So when you make your own point be ready to show it

Do you accept it about
Jesus kids vs Satan kids
It not about your organization that don't know Jesus

Kingsnairaland:
Lie from now till eternity

The battle is not about JW and others

Your organization is of the devil so it holds no water

The battle is about...

Good vs evil

It not about organizations
It about God kingdom and devil kingdom

God is in the business of bringing people from the devil kingdom into his

Those in the kingdom of God can't not be taken away from God's hand

We fight the fight of faith
We don't fight JW

If we see any group or church saying what Bible did not say we condemn them with proves in the Bible

If your foundation is wrong God said the self Righteousness man will fail

Remove your mind thinking is organization fight that lie from who taught u

Bible said it light vs darkness
Jesus vs Satan
Truth vs lie
Believer vs un believer


God said he has many children scattered all over the world not only in an organizations

God said the world can't see the holy spirit in his children because his children are not of this world even though they are in the world


Every point I made I can show in Bible
So when you make your own point be ready to show it

Do you accept it about
Jesus kids vs Satan kids
It not about your organization that don't know Jesus

All MaxInDHouse and his brothers are fighting for is ORGANISATION

That's why they come up with topic such as "Which ORGANISATION is doing God's will today"

Jesus did not die for ORGANISATION, he died for mankind

So instead of bringing people to ORGANISATION, bring them to Christ for it is not ORGANISATION that died for sins.

Kingsnairaland:
Lie from now till eternity
The battle is not about JW and others
Your organization is of the devil so it holds no water
The battle is about...
Good vs evil
It not about organizations
It about God kingdom and devil kingdom
God is in the business of bringing people from the devil kingdom into his
Those in the kingdom of God can't not be taken away from God's hand
We fight the fight of faith
We don't fight JW
If we see any group or church saying what Bible did not say we condemn them with proves in the Bible
If your foundation is wrong God said the self Righteousness man will fail
Remove your mind thinking is organization fight that lie from who taught u
Bible said it light vs darkness
Jesus vs Satan
Truth vs lie
Believer vs un believer
God said he has many children scattered all over the world not only in an organizations
God said the world can't see the holy spirit in his children because his children are not of this world
Every point I made I can show in Bible
So when you make your own point be ready to show it
Do you accept it about
Jesus kids vs Satan kids
It not about your organization that don't know Jesus

What a pity?

See talks that's supposed to be backed with proof from the scriptures (God's word) But no scriptures quoted or cited no PRACTICAL APPLICATION!

No read this!

Jehovah's organization is where all members must stick to the same line of thought {John 17:20-23 compare to 1Corinthians 1:10; Ephesians 4:3} that's what Jesus meant by the narrow path because it doesn't allow for various schools of thought! Matthew 7:13-14

Satan's organization is where people of divers reasonings are conniving against the truth {Exodus 23:1-2} that's why all of you from different sects claiming Christians are forming alliance against just one single group!

Note two of you that God's Holy Spirit poked their hearts to reveal their wicked intentions.
One said:
"i'm fed up with organized form of worship but if there's any reason for me to reconsider my stand i will go for JWs" ~ falseprophet
Another said:
"all religionists are thieves and miscreants but if i want to worship again i'll join Catholics" ~ maximunimpact
Clearly all of you have different opinions on sacred matters but against one group whose only offense is having another opinion on the same topic all of you are bringing accusations of all sorts! Exodus 23:1-2
That's the difference between God's Organization (people unitedly worshiping the same God with the same line of thought) and Satan's Organization (people having contracting teachings and conflicting doctrines yet deceiving themselves that they're one) the enmity between this two rival organizations is not man's doing rather God put that enmity between His own people and Satan's people! Genesis 3:15

May you have PEACE;

MaxInDHouse:
We are not the ones forcing you to come and chat with us it's your disturbed conscience!

You'll notice how all of you kept crowding this thread most especially you as if someone employed you to start working on my thread.

Well that's the spirit of the other organization it will make you restless when you know Jehovah has been approved of those you're opposing instead of going your own way you will continue to feel sad {Genesis 4:6-7} and start looking for ways to hurt them just like Cain did to Abel! Genesis 4:8

You'll notice how restless you've been and sad to the extent that you're looking forward to engage JWs on this forum in battle of words. Well we know why you're so much hurt but there's nothing we can do about it Jehovah is the ONE who put the enmity between light and darkness! Genesis 3:15

Does this quote from your own watch tower look like a battle of words

“Jehovah God is the Grand Identifier of his true messengers. He identifies them by making the messages he delivers through them come true. Jehovah is also the Great Exposer of false messengers. How does he expose them? He frustrates their signs and predictions. In this way he shows that they are self-appointed prognosticators, whose messages really spring from their own false reasoning – yes, their own fleshly thinking!” (Watchtower, 1997 May 1, pg. 8 ).

I'm in no way restless, actually am having fun exposing your lies with your own watch tower publications

maximunimpact:
All MaxInDHouse and his brothers are fighting for is ORGANISATION
That's why they come up with topic such as "Which ORGANISATION is doing God's will today"
Jesus did not die for ORGANISATION, he died for mankind
So instead of bringing people to ORGANISATION, bring them to Christ for it is not ORGANISATION that died for sins.

Who do you think everyone will claim they belong to? Of course you people will say you belong to Jesus nah!

But your attitude, motives, intentions, worship and reasoning will be anywhere belle face! Luke 11:23

MaxInDHouse:
Who do you think everyone will claim they belong to? Of course you people will say you belong to Jesus nah!

But your attitude, motives, intentions, worship and reasoning will be anywhere belle face! Luke 11:23

The good news is that you don't get to be the judge of who is saved or condemned

I am pitching my tent with Jesus, not to the ORGANISATION that made the declaration below

“Jehovah God is the Grand Identifier of his true messengers. He identifies them by making the messages he delivers through them come true. Jehovah is also the Great Exposer of false messengers. How does he expose them? He frustrates their signs and predictions. In this way he shows that they are self-appointed prognosticators, whose messages really spring from their own false reasoning – yes, their own fleshly thinking!” (Watchtower, 1997 May 1, pg. 8 ).

maximunimpact:
Does this quote from your own watch tower look like a battle of words

“Jehovah God is the Grand Identifier of his true messengers. He identifies them by making the messages he delivers through them come true. Jehovah is also the Great Exposer of false messengers. How does he expose them? He frustrates their signs and predictions. In this way he shows that they are self-appointed prognosticators, whose messages really spring from their own false reasoning – yes, their own fleshly thinking!” (Watchtower, 1997 May 1, pg. 8 ).

I'm in no way restless, actually am having fun exposing your lies with your own watch tower publications

Hairyrapunzel stop deceiving yourself!
Jesus revealed your heart condition when he said:


“When an unclean spirit comes out of a man, it passes through waterless places in search of a resting-place and finds none. Then it says, ‘I will go back to my house from which I moved,’ and on arriving, it finds the house unoccupied but swept clean and adorned. Then it goes and takes along with it seven different spirits more wicked than itself, and after getting inside, they dwell there; and the final circumstances of that man become worse than the first. That is how it will be also with this wicked generation. Matthew 12:43-45

Because your heart is not sound the little seed JWs planted was choked {Matthew 13:3-7} and now Satan planted Politics in your heart!

You will not realize it now until you begin to support the killing of innocent souls who never offended you all because you belong to one Political party or yearning for a revolution. For your information that's how Boko Haram began, those youths felt slighted by those making decisions in the political affairs of our country and since they thought they're fighting for God they began killing all those who will not support their movement in changing the government to the Sharia government which they believe will bring a better change. If you must know Boko Haram simply means there's no benefit in Western education, our government should be those trained with the Qur'an not the British-American system of government!

maximunimpact:
The good news is that you don't get to be the judge of who is saved or condemned
I am pitching my tent with Jesus, not to the ORGANISATION that made the declaration below

With the highlighted below it's evident that you're pitching your tent with a Jesus that failed to have representatives anywhere!
No Clerics or Pastors working for your Jesus yet you're able to pitch your tent with this Jesus, abeg how are you doing?

maximunimpact:
I hope you can use this yardstick used in Defending your online offering box and apply it to others you call pastorpreneurs
Until you understand all religious leaders have one thing in common, namely "money and control", you'll continue to wallow in ignorance.
You claim GB build kingdom halls, do other churches worship under mango trees?
Do you also think they don't do charity works?

Both GB, Pastors and all clerics are all bunch of thieves!

MaxInDHouse:
With the highlighted below it's evident that you're pitching your tent with a Jesus that failed to have representatives anywhere!
No Clerics or Pastors working for your Jesus yet you're able to pitch your tent with this Jesus, abeg how are you doing?

No ONE can represent Jesus because he has not abdicated his position as head of the Church

I may have been too hard on calling all clerics charlatans, but there are still good messengers of the goodnews today.

I repeat, no one can REPRESENT who is always present except in kingdom halls where Jesus was given the back seat

MaxInDHouse:
Hairyrapunzel stop deceiving yourself!
Jesus revealed your heart condition when he said:


“When an unclean spirit comes out of a man, it passes through waterless places in search of a resting-place and finds none. Then it says, ‘I will go back to my house from which I moved,’ and on arriving, it finds the house unoccupied but swept clean and adorned. Then it goes and takes along with it seven different spirits more wicked than itself, and after getting inside, they dwell there; and the final circumstances of that man become worse than the first. That is how it will be also with this wicked generation. Matthew 12:43-45

Because your heart is not sound the little seed JWs planted was choked {Matthew 13:3-7} and now Satan planted Politics in your heart!

You will not realize it now until you begin to support the killing of innocent souls who never offended you all because you belong to one Political party or yearning for a revolution. For your information that's how Boko Haram began, those youths felt slighted by those making decisions in the political affairs of our country and since they thought they're fighting for God they began killing all those who will not support their movement in changing the government to the Sharia government which they believe will bring a better change. If you must know Boko Haram simply means there's no benefit in Western education, our government should be those trained with the Qur'an not the British-American system of government!

I don't have much to say except to refer you to your own watch tower

“Jehovah God is the Grand Identifier of his true messengers. He identifies them by making the messages he delivers through them come true. Jehovah is also the Great Exposer of false messengers. How does he expose them? He frustrates their signs and predictions. In this way he shows that they are self-appointed prognosticators, whose messages really spring from their own false reasoning – yes, their own fleshly thinking!” (Watchtower, 1997 May 1, pg. 8 ).

maximunimpact:
No ONE can represent Jesus because he has not abdicated his position as head of the Church
I may have been too hard on calling all clerics charlatans, but there are still good messengers of the goodnews today.
I repeat, no one can REPRESENT who is always present except in kingdom halls where Jesus was given the back seat

There are still good messengers of the good news today but all pastors and clerics are bunch of thieves!
So you're fed up with organized worship, and what Paul said @ Ephesians 4:11 becomes useless after all the Apostles, Pastors, Shepherds and Teachers you're seeing today aren't credible enough to have you worship with them!

Please everybody a round of applause for Mr maximunimpact!

maximunimpact:
Both GB, Pastors and all clerics are all bunch of thieves!

MaxInDHouse:
There are still good messengers of the good news today but all pastors and clerics are bunch of thieves!
So you're fed up with organized worship, and what Paul said @ Ephesians 4:11 becomes useless after all the Apostles, Pastors, Shepherds and Teachers you're seeing today aren't credible enough to have you worship with them!

Please everybody a round of applause for Mr maximunimpact!

MaxInDHouse is really working hard to lay his hand on just about anything that can make him feel good

Have you run out of LIES and misquoting of scriptures?

Am sure as a CIA agent you can find better straws to cling on than this

maximunimpact:
I don't have much to say

Of course members of Satan's organization will be rendered speechless {Psalms 115:5-8} when it comes to a debate with a member of God's Organization! Isaiah 54:17
Even the worldly philosophers brainwashing you with politics fear us because they know what we're capable of doing even without carrying weapons, we will make them stupid in their own reasoning! Job 5:13
I just want to make you see that you never saw anything outside God's organization, Satan only capitalized on your failure to fuel your lamp {Matthew 25:1-12} so now all that's in your head is Politics! Politics!! Politics!!!

Please after leaving God's Organization since 2018 (as you said) how many topics have you raised on this forum to prove that you've truly found something worthwhile outside God's Organization?
My friend, it's just the little that was planted in your heart that you can remember, there's nothing you've gained after leaving God's Organization!
So Jesus said even that little you got will be taken away from you and given to those who will make better use of it! Matthew 25:28-30

Oya nah prove to everyone that you've gotten something apart from the little JWs planted in your brains. Can't you see the competence in my write-ups? 2Timothy 3:16-17 Let everyone see what you've gotten after leaving God's Organization!

For your information, it's the efficacy that all your cohorts are seeing in Max that's making all of you feel like challenging me but i'll tell you people again and again that it's the handiwork of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES Organization that you're all witnessing in a former Muslim today! 1Timothy 4:15

Jehovah's Witnesses my God will continue to bless you guys, thanks for locating me!

MaxInDHouse:
Of course members of Satan's organization will be rendered speechless {Psalms 115:5-8} when it comes to a debate with a member of God's Organization! Isaiah 54:17
Even the worldly philosophers brainwashing you with politics fear us because they know what we're capable of doing even without carrying weapons, we will make them stupid in their own reasoning! Job 5:13
I just want to make you see that you never saw anything outside God's organization, Satan only capitalized on your failure to fuel your lamp {Matthew 25:1-12} so now all that's in your head is Politics! Politics!! Politics!!!

Please after leaving God's Organization since 2018 (as you said) how many topics have you raised on this forum to prove that you've truly found something worthwhile outside God's Organization?
My friend, it's just the little that was planted in your heart that you can remember, there's nothing you've gained after leaving God's Organization!
So Jesus said even that little you got will be taken away from you and given to those who will make better use of it! Matthew 25:28-30

Oya nah prove to everyone that you've gotten something apart from the little JWs planted in your brains. Can't you see the competence in my write-ups? 2Timothy 3:16-17 Let everyone see what you've gotten after leaving God's Organization!

For your information, it's the efficacy that all your cohorts are seeing in Max that's making all of you feel like challenging me but i'll tell you people again and again that it's the handiwork of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES Organization that you're all witnessing in a former Muslim today! 1Timothy 4:15

Jehovah's Witnesses my God will continue to bless you guys, thanks for locating me!

First of all i don't owe my allegiance to any ORGANISATION

Below is what your ORGANISATION have to say about themselves

“Jehovah God is the Grand Identifier of his true messengers. He identifies them by making the messages he delivers through them come true. Jehovah is also the Great Exposer of false messengers. How does he expose them? He frustrates their signs and predictions. In this way he shows that they are self-appointed prognosticators, whose messages really spring from their own false reasoning – yes, their own fleshly thinking!” (Watchtower, 1997 May 1, pg. 8 ).

maximunimpact:
MaxInDHouse is really working hard to lay his hand on just about anything that can make him feel good
Have you run out of LIES and misquoting of scriptures?
Am sure as a CIA agent you can find better straws to cling on than this

I worked with the intelligence and so i know when a man is beclouded with false reasoning, it's just simple: you'll find yourself blaming the people you've left for the rest of your life but you won't make any progress nor move an inch from where you are.
That's what delusion is all about!
Ever since you came into this thread you've been quoting the Watchtower throughout a sign that the Organization truly had a solid grip on you!
Ever since then you've remained stagnant you can't even worship with any group all you're carrying in your head is the teachings of JWs.
OK you said you're for Jesus but since 2018 that you left JWs you can't even raise just one topic for your dear Jesus, all you're doing on the forum is Politics! Politics!! Politics!!!
Guy Satan has captured you in his cage!

maximunimpact:
First of all i don't owe my allegiance to any ORGANISATION
Below is what your ORGANISATION have to say about themselves

“Jehovah God is the Grand Identifier of his true messengers. He identifies them by making the messages he delivers through them come true. Jehovah is also the Great Exposer of false messengers. How does he expose them? He frustrates their signs and predictions. In this way he shows that they are self-appointed prognosticators, whose messages really spring from their own false reasoning – yes, their own fleshly thinking!” (Watchtower, 1997 May 1, pg. 8 ).

Please prove the highlighted below is true by presenting (not any Organization better than JWs as i usually ask others to do) but just one single topic you raised since you left JW Organization!

Haba at least you said you're pitching your tent with Jesus, abeg just present one single topic you raised on this forum for this your Jesus with whom you pitched your tent after leaving God's Organization!

maximunimpact:
The good news is that you don't get to be the judge of who is saved or condemned
I am pitching my tent with Jesus, not to the ORGANISATION that made the declaration below

MaxInDHouse it looks like our next topic is POLITICS

Now let's talk about JWs and POLITICS!

The Watch Tower claims the United Nations is the image of the WILD BEAST mentioned in the book of Revelation, in other words UN embodied world politics; below is how Watch Tower views the UN:

Kingdom Ministries (Canada) May 2005 p1

Jehovah’s day is near

As recorded at Revelation 17:9-11 the apostle John mentions seven kings, representing a succession of seven worldly powers. John also refer to an eighth king which now represents the United Nations. are we to expect other world powers to come to the scene? No, the prophecy states that this eighth king goes off into destruction, after which no earthly kings are mentioned. Does this prophesy help you to see where we are in the stream of time.

Watchtower November 15, 2001 p.19

'No Calamity Will Befall Us'

14 Anointed Christians are like alien residents living in tents apart from this system of things. Not even a plague draws near their tent. Whether our hope is heavenly or earthly, we are no part of the world, and we are not infected by such spiritually deadly plagues as its immorality, materialism, false religion and worship of the 'wild beast' and it's 'image', the United Nations.

Watchtower 1982 July 15 pp.22-26

Benefiting From Your God-given Conscience

[Box on page 26]

Watchtower 1999 May 1 p.15 "Let the Reader Use Discernment"

A Modern-Day "Disgusting Thing"

7 Since World War I, we have seen the larger fulfillment of Jesus' sign recorded in Matthew chapter 24. Yet, recall his words: "When you catch sight of the disgusting thing that causes desolation . . . standing in a holy place, . . . then let those in Judea begin fleeing to the mountains." (Matthew 24:15, 16) This aspect of the prophecy must have a fulfillment in our time too.

8 Demonstrating the confidence of Jehovah's servants that this prophecy would be fulfilled, The Watchtower of January 1, 1921, focused on it in connection with developments in the Middle East. Subsequently, in its December 15, 1929, issue, on page 374, The Watchtower definitively said: "The whole tendency of the League of Nations is to turn the people away from God and from Christ, and it is therefore a desolating thing, the product of Satan, and an abomination in the sight of God." So in 1919 "the disgusting thing" appeared. In time, the League gave way to the United Nations. Jehovah's Witnesses have long exposed these human peace organizations as disgusting in God's sight.

15 Revelation depicts "a scarlet-colored wild beast" that exists for a time, disappears, and then returns. (Revelation 17:3, This beast is supported by world rulers. Details supplied in the prophecy help us to identify this symbolic beast as a peace organization that came into existence in 1919 as the League of Nations (a "disgusting thing" and that is now the United Nations. Revelation 17:16, 17 shows that God will yet put it into the hearts of certain human rulers who are prominent in this "beast" to desolate the world empire of false religion. That attack marks the outbreak of the great tribulation.

Kingdom Ministry December 1998 p.5 Theocratic Ministry School Review

9. Revelation 13:11-15 accurately portrays how the Anglo-American World Power became chief sponsor and life-giver both to the League of Nations and to its successor, the United Nations. [Weekly Bible reading; see w88 12/15 p. 19 par. 3.] True.

Kingdom Ministry August 1994 pp.5-6 Theocratic Ministry School Review

20. What was "the disgusting thing that causes desolation" in the first century, and what is it today? (Matt. 24:15) [gt chap. 111] In 66 C.E., it was the Roman armies that surrounded Jerusalem; today it is the United Nations.

Kingdom Ministry February 1976 p.1 Branch Letter

Our brothers in Malawi and in Mozambique do not have all the printed aids that we do, but they continue to praise Jehovah. Even the vicious persecution that has come on them has resulted in the giving of a tremendous witness. (Phil. 1:12-14) We have at hand reports from all parts of the United States, besides Kenya, South Africa, Hong Kong, Malaysia, England, Canada and France, telling what is happening to our brothers in Malawi. Copies of the Awake! report on Malawi were furnished to representatives to the United Nations, to all U.S. congressman and senators. We know of over seventy radio stations that have carried the story. At least ten TV stations have featured it. Thus the world is hearing what is happening to Jehovah's people because they uphold God's kingdom. All of this contributes to the separating of people as foretold in Matthew 25:31-46.

Kingdom Ministry September 1970 p.1 Branch Letter

As we think back on the highlights of the program, we also remember the identification of the "disgusting thing" with the scarlet-colored beast of Revelation chapter 17, the United Nations. That is something that folks had been asking about ever since the assemblies last year.

Watchtower 1991 June 1 p.19 Their Refuge—A Lie!

[for the complete Watchtower article, with its detailed explanation of the United Nations standing together with Christendom against God's will, see next quote]

20 Christendom rested her hopes in the League of Nations, but it was overturned even without the coming of Armageddon. Now she has transferred her allegiance to the United Nations. But it will soon have to face "the war of the great day of God the Almighty," and it will not survive. (Revelation 16:14) Even a revived UN can never bring peace and security. God's prophetic Word shows that the United Nations organization with its member nations "will battle with the Lamb [Christ in Kingdom power], but, because he is Lord of lords and King of kings, the Lamb will conquer them."—Revelation 17:14.

Watchtower 1991 June 1 pp.15-20 Their Refuge—A Lie!

6 Confident in their political alliances, Jerusalem's leaders were sure that no "overflowing flash flood" of invading armies would come near them to disturb their peace and security. When threatened by an alliance of Israel and Syria, Judah turned to Assyria for help. (2 Kings 16:5-9) Later, when menaced by the military forces of Babylon, she appealed to Egypt for support and Pharaoh responded, sending an army to help.—Jeremiah 37:5-8; Ezekiel 17:11-15.

7 But Babylon's armies were too powerful, and Egypt's troops had to withdraw. Jerusalem's placing confidence in Egypt proved to be a mistake, and in 607 B.C.E., Jehovah abandoned her to the destruction he had foretold. So Jerusalem's rulers and priests were wrong! Their trust in worldly alliances for peace and security was "a lie" that was swept away by the flash flood of Babylon's armies.

After demonizing the UN: Watchtower Become a UN associate as an NGO member

In 1991 the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of New York applied to the United Nations to become an NGO. In 1992 the Watchtower’s application was granted. As part of being a United Nation’s NGO the Watchtower agreed to a number of criteria that had to be met every year.

On Joining in 1992 all NGO’s agreed with the below requirement ;

The principal purpose of association of non-governmental organizations with the United Nations Department of Public Information is the re-dissemination of information in order to increase public understanding of the principles, activities and achievements of the United Nations and its Agencies. Consequently, it is important that you should keep us informed about your organization's information program as it relates to the United Nations, including sending us issues of your relevant publications. We are enclosing a brochure on the The United Nations and Non-Governmental Organizations, which will give you some information

When news of the Watchtower’s involvement with the UN appeared in the Guardian (UK tabloid) the Watchtower requested that they disassociate themselves. When news reached the “rank and file” Jehovah’s Witnesses, they inundated theUN offices so much with inquiries that the UN were forced to post the following letter on their web site.

Jehovah's Witnesses link to UN queried - Sect accused of hypocrisy over association with organisation it has demonised

The United Nations is being asked to investigate why it has granted associate status to the Jehovah's Witnesses, the fundamentalist US-based Christian sect, which regards it as the scarlet beast predicted in the Book of Revelation.

Disaffected members of the 6m-strong group, which has 130,000 followers in the UK, have accused the Witnesses' elderly governing body of hypocrisy in secretly accepting links with an organisation that they continue to denounce in apocalyptic terms.

The UN itself admitted yesterday that it was surprised that the sect, whose formal name is the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York, had been accepted on its list of non-governmental organisations for the last 10 years.

A former member said: "There is a glaring inconsistency which has emerged between the WTBTS's frequent portrayal of the UN as an evil organisation and its behind-the-scenes attempts to curry favour with that organisation. Were individual members to be aware of any formal link they would be devastated.

"By no stretch of the imagination could the WTBTS be considered to share the ideals of the UN charter unless you suppose that destruction of the UN by God is consistent with that charter."

The Witnesses, most frequently encountered by non-members when they attempt to make doorstep conversions, have faced accusations of bad faith before.

These have been most notably over the hierarchy's insistence that members should not accept blood transfusions and over accusations that sexual abuse of children by Witnesses' ministers in the US have been covered up.

Followers who criticise the Witnesses' leaders or question their decisions are routinely "disfellowshipped" which means fellow members including their families must shun them.

An obscure and ill-publicised decision by the hierarchy in New York last year modifying the prohibition on transfusions by deeming that God had revealed to them that transfusions of some blood components might be acceptable, providing there was later repentance, has come too late for many hundreds of followers known to have died because they refused blood.

In child abuse cases, the hierarchy insists there must be two independent witnesses - an almost impossible stipulation - before accusations are investigated.

The Watchtower Society has been denouncing the UN and its predecessor the League of Nations for 80 years, believing them to be a world empire of false religion, predicted in the Book of Revelation.

A recent publication since the organisation obtained its recognition describes the UN as "a disgusting thing in the sight of God and his people".

In an internal document, the WTBTS describes its policy as a "theocratic war strategy". It claims: "In time of spiritual warfare it is proper to misdirect the enemy by hiding the truth. It is done unselfishly; it does not harm anyone; on the contrary it does much good."

Being a recognised NGO with the United Nations - as more than 1,500 organisations are - gives status though not grants.

To qualify, organisations must show that they share the ideals of the charter, operate on a non-profit basis, "demonstrate interest in UN issues and proven ability to reach large or specialised audiences" and have the commitment and means to conduct effective information programmes about UN activities.

Disaffected Witnesses believe that the association, which has not been publicised to followers, is intended to increase the cult's respectability to sceptical governments, such as France's, which have refused to recognise it.

Paul Gillies, the Witnesses' spokesman in Britain, said: "We do not have hostile attitudes to governing bodies and if we are making representations on issues to the UN we will do so."

"There are good and bad bodies just as there are good and bad politicians. We believe what the Book of Revelation tells us but we do not actively try to change the political system."

A spokeswoman for the UN said: "I think we may not be aware of their attitude, which seems to be really strange."

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2001/oct/08/religion.world

Much like every other sanctimonious believe they pay lip-service to, JWs are also paying lip-service about neutrality in politics!

MaxInDHouse the floor is now open, come let's discuss the politics Governing Body played with the IMAGE OF THE WILD BEAST