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Kingsnairaland:
they have their own forged Bible which they twist

MaxInDHouse:
Please prove the highlighted below is true by presenting (not any Organization better than JWs as i usually ask others to do) but just one single topic you raised since you left JW Organization!

Haba at least you said you're pitching your tent with Jesus, abeg just present one single topic you raised on this forum for this your Jesus with whom you pitched your tent after leaving God's Organization!

MaxInDHouse:
I believe everyone can see the reason why i always ask those who claims they once associate with God's organization to PRESENT the better performing group they've found outside God's organization!
Because i'm 100% sure that there is no other way apart from JW Organization, whoever leaves that Organization is only going out for uncertainty and the only thing they will continue to relate is what they learnt while still associating with JWs!
So Mr maximunimpact thanks for proving that only JW Organization can impact knowledge in people's hearts!

achorladey:
What he and anyone choose to address on this platform is within his jurisdiction and power to do. You don't have to dictate to him what he decides to do. You didn't set the rules here. You once state there are no rules here only to comeback to agitate rules must be followed when you were cornered on this same thread.

maximunimpact:
I studied bible outside watch tower and saw things more clearly

MaxInDHouse:
I believe everyone can see the reason why i always ask those who claims they once associate with God's organization to PRESENT the better performing group they've found outside God's organization!
Because i'm 100% sure that there is no other way apart from JW Organization, whoever leaves that Organization is only going out for uncertainty and the only thing they will continue to relate is what they learnt while still associating with JWs!
So Mr maximunimpact thanks for proving that only JW Organization can impact knowledge in people's hearts!

Bishopkingsley:
Wake up o man

There is no group

Only Jesus
Only Jesus can save you
Stop looking for group

Call upon him and believe he is God

Then watch him save you in a miraculous way

achorladey:
No be same you said bearing children now is meaningless from God's standpoint today. When scriptures are brought to your notice that such states is uncalled for you backtracked. Many discussion based on scriptures have been addressed here. What ends it you will rather stick to the interpretation of your religious leaders than what is clearly presented that is The reason you will keep asking for better performing group.

Good........better...........best

Your group is not the best, the others are still good going by your better performing group palaver. You should reason on that .

MaxInDHouse:
I'll only respond to you this once until further notice!

This is what maximunipact said:



And he's been disturbing this thread from the beginning till now. Will it not be appropriate to ask him at least what he has learnt or seen after leaving God's Organization?

I noticed that all what he has in his head are the things JWs planted there, so since he's been disturbing me claiming he has found something worthwhile outside the Organization is it a crime to ask him to share just few of those things he has gotten after leaving JWs?

And the same goes to you too Sir!

MaxInDHouse:
So in short all groups are doing just fine!

Please extend such heartwarming message to Mr maximunipact, tell him JWs are simply one out of so many groups claiming the best so he should go and relax with his newly found truth!

maximunimpact:

Cry baby
You better go on your knees and cry to Jesus the author and finisher our our faith
Hebrews 12:2 (KJV) Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

MaxInDHouse:
Since 2018!

Well go and preach your Jesus it's time you forget about JW and their lies Biko!

MaxInDHouse:
So in short all groups are doing just fine!

Please extend such heartwarming message to Mr maximunipact, tell him JWs are simply one out of so many groups claiming the best so he should go and relax with his newly found truth!

maximunimpact:
Am preaching to you here
Or are JWs the only GROUP allowed to knock on doors for the preaching work?
Jesus is knocking at the door of your heart
Revelation 3:20 “Look! I stand at the door and knock. If you hear my voice and open the door, I will come in, and we will share a meal together as friends.
Open up to JESUS and be saved! ORGANISATIONS cannot save YOU!

maximunimpact:
MaxInDHouse it looks like our next topic is POLITICS

Now let's talk about JWs and POLITICS!

The Watch Tower claims the United Nations is the image of the WILD BEAST mentioned in the book of Revelation, in other words UN embodied world politics; below is how Watch Tower views the UN:

Kingdom Ministries (Canada) May 2005 p1

Jehovah’s day is near

As recorded at Revelation 17:9-11 the apostle John mentions seven kings, representing a succession of seven worldly powers. John also refer to an eighth king which now represents the United Nations. are we to expect other world powers to come to the scene? No, the prophecy states that this eighth king goes off into destruction, after which no earthly kings are mentioned. Does this prophesy help you to see where we are in the stream of time.

Watchtower November 15, 2001 p.19

'No Calamity Will Befall Us'

14 Anointed Christians are like alien residents living in tents apart from this system of things. Not even a plague draws near their tent. Whether our hope is heavenly or earthly, we are no part of the world, and we are not infected by such spiritually deadly plagues as its immorality, materialism, false religion and worship of the 'wild beast' and it's 'image', the United Nations.

Watchtower 1982 July 15 pp.22-26

Benefiting From Your God-given Conscience

[Box on page 26]

Watchtower 1999 May 1 p.15 "Let the Reader Use Discernment"

A Modern-Day "Disgusting Thing"

7 Since World War I, we have seen the larger fulfillment of Jesus' sign recorded in Matthew chapter 24. Yet, recall his words: "When you catch sight of the disgusting thing that causes desolation . . . standing in a holy place, . . . then let those in Judea begin fleeing to the mountains." (Matthew 24:15, 16) This aspect of the prophecy must have a fulfillment in our time too.

8 Demonstrating the confidence of Jehovah's servants that this prophecy would be fulfilled, The Watchtower of January 1, 1921, focused on it in connection with developments in the Middle East. Subsequently, in its December 15, 1929, issue, on page 374, The Watchtower definitively said: "The whole tendency of the League of Nations is to turn the people away from God and from Christ, and it is therefore a desolating thing, the product of Satan, and an abomination in the sight of God." So in 1919 "the disgusting thing" appeared. In time, the League gave way to the United Nations. Jehovah's Witnesses have long exposed these human peace organizations as disgusting in God's sight.

15 Revelation depicts "a scarlet-colored wild beast" that exists for a time, disappears, and then returns. (Revelation 17:3, This beast is supported by world rulers. Details supplied in the prophecy help us to identify this symbolic beast as a peace organization that came into existence in 1919 as the League of Nations (a "disgusting thing" and that is now the United Nations. Revelation 17:16, 17 shows that God will yet put it into the hearts of certain human rulers who are prominent in this "beast" to desolate the world empire of false religion. That attack marks the outbreak of the great tribulation.

Kingdom Ministry December 1998 p.5 Theocratic Ministry School Review

9. Revelation 13:11-15 accurately portrays how the Anglo-American World Power became chief sponsor and life-giver both to the League of Nations and to its successor, the United Nations. [Weekly Bible reading; see w88 12/15 p. 19 par. 3.] True.

Kingdom Ministry August 1994 pp.5-6 Theocratic Ministry School Review

20. What was "the disgusting thing that causes desolation" in the first century, and what is it today? (Matt. 24:15) [gt chap. 111] In 66 C.E., it was the Roman armies that surrounded Jerusalem; today it is the United Nations.

Kingdom Ministry February 1976 p.1 Branch Letter

Our brothers in Malawi and in Mozambique do not have all the printed aids that we do, but they continue to praise Jehovah. Even the vicious persecution that has come on them has resulted in the giving of a tremendous witness. (Phil. 1:12-14) We have at hand reports from all parts of the United States, besides Kenya, South Africa, Hong Kong, Malaysia, England, Canada and France, telling what is happening to our brothers in Malawi. Copies of the Awake! report on Malawi were furnished to representatives to the United Nations, to all U.S. congressman and senators. We know of over seventy radio stations that have carried the story. At least ten TV stations have featured it. Thus the world is hearing what is happening to Jehovah's people because they uphold God's kingdom. All of this contributes to the separating of people as foretold in Matthew 25:31-46.

Kingdom Ministry September 1970 p.1 Branch Letter

As we think back on the highlights of the program, we also remember the identification of the "disgusting thing" with the scarlet-colored beast of Revelation chapter 17, the United Nations. That is something that folks had been asking about ever since the assemblies last year.

Watchtower 1991 June 1 p.19 Their Refuge—A Lie!

[for the complete Watchtower article, with its detailed explanation of the United Nations standing together with Christendom against God's will, see next quote]

20 Christendom rested her hopes in the League of Nations, but it was overturned even without the coming of Armageddon. Now she has transferred her allegiance to the United Nations. But it will soon have to face "the war of the great day of God the Almighty," and it will not survive. (Revelation 16:14) Even a revived UN can never bring peace and security. God's prophetic Word shows that the United Nations organization with its member nations "will battle with the Lamb [Christ in Kingdom power], but, because he is Lord of lords and King of kings, the Lamb will conquer them."—Revelation 17:14.

Watchtower 1991 June 1 pp.15-20 Their Refuge—A Lie!

6 Confident in their political alliances, Jerusalem's leaders were sure that no "overflowing flash flood" of invading armies would come near them to disturb their peace and security. When threatened by an alliance of Israel and Syria, Judah turned to Assyria for help. (2 Kings 16:5-9) Later, when menaced by the military forces of Babylon, she appealed to Egypt for support and Pharaoh responded, sending an army to help.—Jeremiah 37:5-8; Ezekiel 17:11-15.

7 But Babylon's armies were too powerful, and Egypt's troops had to withdraw. Jerusalem's placing confidence in Egypt proved to be a mistake, and in 607 B.C.E., Jehovah abandoned her to the destruction he had foretold. So Jerusalem's rulers and priests were wrong! Their trust in worldly alliances for peace and security was "a lie" that was swept away by the flash flood of Babylon's armies.

After demonizing the UN: Watchtower Become a UN associate as an NGO member

In 1991 the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of New York applied to the United Nations to become an NGO. In 1992 the Watchtower’s application was granted. As part of being a United Nation’s NGO the Watchtower agreed to a number of criteria that had to be met every year.

On Joining in 1992 all NGO’s agreed with the below requirement ;

The principal purpose of association of non-governmental organizations with the United Nations Department of Public Information is the re-dissemination of information in order to increase public understanding of the principles, activities and achievements of the United Nations and its Agencies. Consequently, it is important that you should keep us informed about your organization's information program as it relates to the United Nations, including sending us issues of your relevant publications. We are enclosing a brochure on the The United Nations and Non-Governmental Organizations, which will give you some information

When news of the Watchtower’s involvement with the UN appeared in the Guardian (UK tabloid) the Watchtower requested that they disassociate themselves. When news reached the “rank and file” Jehovah’s Witnesses, they inundated theUN offices so much with inquiries that the UN were forced to post the following letter on their web site.

Jehovah's Witnesses link to UN queried - Sect accused of hypocrisy over association with organisation it has demonised

The United Nations is being asked to investigate why it has granted associate status to the Jehovah's Witnesses, the fundamentalist US-based Christian sect, which regards it as the scarlet beast predicted in the Book of Revelation.

Disaffected members of the 6m-strong group, which has 130,000 followers in the UK, have accused the Witnesses' elderly governing body of hypocrisy in secretly accepting links with an organisation that they continue to denounce in apocalyptic terms.

The UN itself admitted yesterday that it was surprised that the sect, whose formal name is the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York, had been accepted on its list of non-governmental organisations for the last 10 years.

A former member said: "There is a glaring inconsistency which has emerged between the WTBTS's frequent portrayal of the UN as an evil organisation and its behind-the-scenes attempts to curry favour with that organisation. Were individual members to be aware of any formal link they would be devastated.

"By no stretch of the imagination could the WTBTS be considered to share the ideals of the UN charter unless you suppose that destruction of the UN by God is consistent with that charter."

The Witnesses, most frequently encountered by non-members when they attempt to make doorstep conversions, have faced accusations of bad faith before.

These have been most notably over the hierarchy's insistence that members should not accept blood transfusions and over accusations that sexual abuse of children by Witnesses' ministers in the US have been covered up.

Followers who criticise the Witnesses' leaders or question their decisions are routinely "disfellowshipped" which means fellow members including their families must shun them.

An obscure and ill-publicised decision by the hierarchy in New York last year modifying the prohibition on transfusions by deeming that God had revealed to them that transfusions of some blood components might be acceptable, providing there was later repentance, has come too late for many hundreds of followers known to have died because they refused blood.

In child abuse cases, the hierarchy insists there must be two independent witnesses - an almost impossible stipulation - before accusations are investigated.

The Watchtower Society has been denouncing the UN and its predecessor the League of Nations for 80 years, believing them to be a world empire of false religion, predicted in the Book of Revelation.

A recent publication since the organisation obtained its recognition describes the UN as "a disgusting thing in the sight of God and his people".

In an internal document, the WTBTS describes its policy as a "theocratic war strategy". It claims: "In time of spiritual warfare it is proper to misdirect the enemy by hiding the truth. It is done unselfishly; it does not harm anyone; on the contrary it does much good."

Being a recognised NGO with the United Nations - as more than 1,500 organisations are - gives status though not grants.

To qualify, organisations must show that they share the ideals of the charter, operate on a non-profit basis, "demonstrate interest in UN issues and proven ability to reach large or specialised audiences" and have the commitment and means to conduct effective information programmes about UN activities.

Disaffected Witnesses believe that the association, which has not been publicised to followers, is intended to increase the cult's respectability to sceptical governments, such as France's, which have refused to recognise it.

Paul Gillies, the Witnesses' spokesman in Britain, said: "We do not have hostile attitudes to governing bodies and if we are making representations on issues to the UN we will do so."

"There are good and bad bodies just as there are good and bad politicians. We believe what the Book of Revelation tells us but we do not actively try to change the political system."

A spokeswoman for the UN said: "I think we may not be aware of their attitude, which seems to be really strange."

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2001/oct/08/religion.world

Much like every other sanctimonious believe they pay lip-service to, JWs are also paying lip-service about neutrality in politics!

achorladey:
You were the one looking for better performing group and agitating for others to show you one. Reason am well.

MaxInDHouse:
Since 2018!
Well thank you very much i'm not interested in your Jesus.
Go and check my profile you won't see a single topic apart from the religious section unlike you who exited the religious section immediately after leaving God's Organization! Matthew 6:19-21
Perhaps you should open a thread and raise topics that will interest people like me. Coming to my thread to constitute nuisance for almost a month is enough to reveal the real intention of your heart! Luke 6:45

maximunimpact:
So its nolonger about me posting only political articles and its now because I exited religious section, guess which section we are right now
I thought you were obsessed about politics a while back until i exposed Watch Tower's hypocrisy on political neutrality....

MaxInDHouse:
You don't know what you're saying!

The Watchtower strictly warned all her members never to participate in the political affairs of any nation so you can't find a single JW throughout the globe in any political party.
Other religions going into politics wants to influence what is happening in their government so how on earth can you prove that a group whose members will be dealt with if any is found having anything to do with Politics is into politics?

Sorry let me remind you that i'm once an agent of the intelligence so before coming up with accusations think deeply over what you're coming to say. Remember i've worked with the agency where we must be certain of things before acting therefore my reasoning totally differs from yours! 1Thessalonians 5:21

THEWRITERSMIND:
So apparently the Watch Tower governing body are politically neutral in the day but active at night

MaxInDHouse:
When following the crowd men of intelligence only pity individuals like you!

Let me enlighten you on the epistle your friend put up there to console himself.

In all the countries af the world prominent religious leaders always have a say in the political affairs of their nations. Before the colonial era it was not so, the native priests only officiate when it comes to spiritual matters and once they're done they return to their chambers (shrines)
But when the Western world began their moves to dominate the world they first condemn our native priests and established their own religion in other to continue monitoring our people. So that even when you get independent they will be monitoring the affairs of your government, that's why you'll notice that the majority of those handling the political affairs since Independence are Catholics and the likes.
It was gradually when the Western world realized that Pentecostals are now having more people in some nations like America that members of such religions are initiated into politics. WHY? Because during election the majority must be given the mandate otherwise there will be WAR!

I'm telling you this not because i want to preach JWs to you but to teach you how much an agent of the intelligence know about the intimacy between religion and politics!

So the Western World agreed that before any religion is allowed to start operating within the country a permit must be issued by the government. This is to know if such a religion will not hinder their monitoring spirit. So all the religions you're seeing around you took the permit before they start operating.

Now this is where JWs had issues!
Because the churches of Christendom hated this group with a passion knowing fully well that anytime they are allowed to operate they will expose the hypocrisy of the churches who are supporting politics and killing their own people in political struggles they will influence the state authorities not to register the Watchtower. This happened in Russia and many Asian countries for decades. Until when the Russian government bowed to the pressure of the European Union on freedom of speech, expression and worship.
But when Russia now decided to re-candle the rift between them and America the Russian government decided to deal ruthlessly with any religion that will not pledge their allegiance to the state. And because JWs don't do that the Orthodox Churches in Russia seized that opportunity to unleash their long time vengeance on Watchtower.

So it's not about participating in politics but following the due process of getting the authorized PERMIT to start operating under the umbrella of religion!

For your information, the Western World is restricting the same rule they themselves initiated in the Arab World because if the Arabs are allowed to follow that same process the Western World will never have any influence in their political affairs.
WHY?
Because if it's the Arabian authorities that will determine the type of religion operating in their domain they will never allow any religion upon which the Western World have influence to enter their country. That's why the Arabs are always at loggerheads with the Western World.

I just diverted into politics to show you that you guys don't know anything that's happening around you. Your prominent Pastors know all these secrets that why you're seeing them having the president of CAN who will sit when politicians need to know how to manipulate things!

Sorry let's talk about the Kingdom of God that's just a token from what is happening in Politics that you can't know!

THEWRITERSMIND:
Actually "christiendom" whatever it means to JWs don't hate JWs, it is the other way round.
It is watch Tower that have been "hurling vials of judgement" on Christendom and calling them all manner of names like apostates, the harlot, false religion, mentally ill people etc.
All the above are the kind of hate JWs have for others, that's not what a "peaceful religious group" should look like.

maximunimpact:
Is this the false accusation you are talking about?
I know your next move is to lie and cover up the truth about Watch Tower's political neutrality, but am not surprised because you are like your father
John 8:44 (KJV): Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

MaxInDHouse:
Must my method of preaching match with yours?
If you found my method of preaching wrong can't you just walk away peacefully?
Even Muslims, Buddhists, Judaists, Hindus and Traditionalists religionists always tolerate the nonsense and ingredients misinformed Churchgoers spew in their streets and public buses saying people will be roasted alive if they ignore your preaching so why must you always run after me simply because of difference in my method of preaching?

MaxInDHouse:
I carry Watchtower on my head, YES!

Because if all the religions in the world are under Watchtower wars will seize to the extremity of the earth! Psalms 46:9

Now this is Apostle Paul's definition of FAITH:

Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. Hebrews 11:1 KJV

Jehovah's Witnesses claims they have FAITH and the whole world can SEE the WORKS of their faith! James 2:18-26

Imagine a soldier who has been to war seen how people were brutally killed both those with weapons and harmless ones, young boys taken by force from their mothers and given weapons without any real training, husbands killed because they refused to watch their own wives been raped in their presence, possessions stolen by invading forces, food eaten at gunpoint while the owner watch helplessly properties destroyed and so many other atrocities all in the name of WAR.
Now a religion used a book (Bible) to remove that from the minds of people who have been trained to kill and they're now carrying Bibles and literatures to preach life. Matthew 7:16-18
And you people are coming up with worthless accusations against such a group only to say "they're first to accuse us"
Jesus said blasphemy against the son of man will be forgiven but blasphemy against God's Holy Spirit will never be forgiven! Matthew 12:31:32

So you can say whatever comes to your mouth just to tarnish the image of God's Organization but know that it's that same Organization that changed the beast in people like me turning me into a sheep today! Isaiah 65:25

May you have PEACE!

achorladey:
First two questions are irrelevant to what my post which you are responding to entails. The other part of your post describes who you are, when I contributed to the thread earlier which dance to your tune you didn't say I am running after you. When the response you are getting now don't dance to your tune, your mouth change to running after you yet you will keep running after Christendom whom you believe are condemned to death should they fail to bow to your group and acknowledge it as the only group God is using on earth.


Concerning preaching na the same you said what Christendom call preaching is NOISEMAKING that in fact house to house is what truly identify Jesus followers but when Covid-19 restricted your preaching to online preaching using social networks available your tune changed again. I want to believe you are not even using this thread to count non stop reporting hours of field service which you are expected to deliver at the end of each month. Na you dey put yourself under undue pressure as placed on you by your religious leaders.

MaxInDHouse:
Great!

So you now understand what is happening!

God's Organization is always pointing out the evil Satan's organization is committing in God's name.
Take for instance, you are a member of the RCCG and you're a Nigerian, and another member of the same religion is a Ghanaian, now their comes up issues between those handling the political affairs of Nigeria and that of Ghana. Pastors in the same church will bless the weapons of war and off you go to kill your fellow believers in Ghana after praying in Jesus name! 2Timothy 3:5

May such never happen to God's children! John 13:34-35

achorladey:
First two questions are irrelevant to what my post which you are responding to entails. The other part of your post describes who you are, when I contributed to the thread earlier which dance to your tune you didn't say I am running after you. When the response you are getting now don't dance to your tune, your mouth change to running after you yet you will keep running after Christendom whom you believe are condemned to death should they fail to bow to your group and acknowledge it as the only group God is using on earth.

Concerning preaching na the same you said what Christendom call preaching is NOISEMAKING that in fact house to house is what truly identify Jesus followers but when Covid-19 restricted your preaching to online preaching using social networks available your tune changed again. I want to believe you are not even using this thread to count non stop reporting hours of field service which you are expected to deliver at the end of each month. Na you dey put yourself under undue pressure as placed on you by your religious leaders.

maximunimpact:

From politics to war
See how MaxInDHouse have lost focus
Speaking of wars, his CIA Organization is responsible for many chaos around the world
Don't worry, your new topic on WARS will soon be addressed

achorladey:
God's Organization is always pointing out the evil Satan's organization is committing in God's name.
I want to believe that Satan's organization includes all other organization apart from the WTBTS of which you are a member of. Now an important question......
Will you readily agree that these Satan's organization have and share common denominators with the "only God's organization on earth" in terms of this evils you are pointing out?
A. Yes
B. No
C. I blame that of Gods organization on imperfections
D. I choose not to answer
In the +\- 140 years of the organization existence, has a Jehovah's witness never killed another Jehovah's witness before?
A. Yes
B. No
C. I blame it on imperfections
D. I choose not to respond
Note: look before you dive

MaxInDHouse:
There are reasonable questions that will make the listener think deeply and respond to the level of his knowledge. But when you're not specific with your quest you give your audience no option than to ignore you.
So if truthfully you want to discuss let me know the topic and purpose of your discussion by so doing you've prepared the mind of your listener already to know that there is something he/she is missing out. All what you've been doing on this forum is just to antagonize the JWs so how do you expect me to take you serious?



Jesus sent his followers out and they brought the report of their activities back to him! Luke 10:17
For your information that's why none of the religions around you are active in doing God's work because they'll enter a bus or street make noise and by the end of the day say "you can worship with any Bible believing Church" so who will say his /her own Church don't believe the Bible?
Well one of your Papa's has sacked those not active in fetching him members, had it been they are well organized like JWs he will know the district that needs help in the preaching and teaching program that's how JWs are doing not SACKING people who are supposed to be God's workers not Papa's workers!