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Justice Gideon Kurada of the Kaduna State High Court has acquitted and discharged the leader of the Islamic Movement in Nigeria (IMN), Sheikh Ibraheem El- Zakzaky and his wife, Zeenat Ibrahim who have been standing trial in the court for the past four years.

In a judgement delivered on Wednesday, Justice Kurada said the case was not shown nor proven by the prosecutor.

El-Zakzaky and his wife, Zeenat, are standing trial on eight counts bordering on alleged culpable homicide, unlawful assembly, disruption of public peace, among others.

The defendants had pleaded not guilty to the charges preferred against them.

The couple have been in detention since 2015, after IMN supporters clashed with soldiers in Zaria, Kaduna.

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GeneralFarouq:
Good find
Why should we switch from MI series to Cobras....
Plus all the double standards that accompany US weapons...

I disagree with you.
At least a proper military should have arrays of defferent platforms, even if there roles and functions are the same.
The Mi-35m is a fantastic and deadly platform, so also is the cobra attack helicopters. Don't forget that the Mi, apart from its attack role it's a utility and a troop carrier platform.
The Cobra on the other hand is much more faster and more maneuver than the Mi, due to the fact that is much more lighter. But both are proven attack platforms !

bidexiii:
1990's, but 1993 to be presice..

Okay

Ghen! Ghen!

bidexiii:
Wow......

[/b]12 AH-1 Cobra attack helicopters and accompanying defence systems to the Nigerian military[b]

Could this helicopters be for the NA Aviation Wing ! Thank God they allowed the Super Tucanos to be dekivered, hopefully the remaining batch would be delivered in due time.
If the US is not selling why can't we go to China or Russia, why must it be the United States. Am fucking tired with all these there sanctions and blocking of military hardware procurement, even when you have your money. Let's buy else where
Thanks for sharing these !

Serioiously blocking hardware sales at this critical time with different terrorist groups operating up and down in Africa

tutudesz:
Serioiously blocking hardware sales at this critical time with different terrorist groups pooping up and down in Africa

Has if naa only dem they sale attack helicopter platform

bidexiii:
I disagree with you.
At least a proper military should have arrays of defferent platforms, even if there roles and functions are the same.
The Mi-35m is a fantastic and deadly platform, so also is the cobra attack helicopters. Don't forget that the Mi, apart from its attack role it's a utility and a troop carrier platform.
The Cobra on the other hand is much more faster and more maneuver than the Mi, due to the fact that is much more lighter. But both are proven attack platforms !

Oh I get where you are coming from.,
Then we can go for the MI-28NE which is more similar to the Cobra than the MI 35...
Except of course we don't want to source from one nation only... This American attitude is bad for the war
With the MI-28NE, NAF has experience with Russian helis and can easily pilot andmaintain them or help whoever is acquiring it in doing any of these things

bidexiii:
Has if naa only dem they sale attack helicopter platform

Their foreign policy is very funny, later they will tag Nigeria has ally in the fight against terrorism

tutudesz:
Their foreign policy is very funny, later they will tag Nigeria has ally in the fight against terrorism

Compared to what other US allies have done, Nigeria would qualify has a saint... yet they sell and even gift these nations hardware ....This is in no way to justify any misdoing by our government.

EricBraven:
It is not about political correctness,it is just that I am looking for an explanation as to why we always think that the police has never done anything right

If you look closely you'd notice the average jock in this country is disgustingly pessimistic. However, that's not what made me enter your discuss with Sam. I know you're against sweeping statements but let's not dismiss certain realities.

GeneralFarouq:
I for one,ain't denying innocent have not been killed or arrested, but to claim that the police paraded thousands within such short period of time without providing any source is baseless dafamtion.
Pple around here are beginning to adapt as well tolerate the habit of speaking and receiving information elucidated from other pples anus..

That's what I'm getting at. Your last sentence sha

Odunayaw:
That's what I'm getting at. Your last sentence sha

Oh alright.

GreenOris:
The alliance has been formed for long, if you can remember last year around Sallah, when bandits in Niger state released a video pledging loyalty to boko haram.
And the now late bandit (DOGO GEDE) that was killed last year in Zamfara received training and weapons from boko haram, they were among the first set of Bandits/rustlers to start calling them self Boko haram, here in kaduna even before they moved to zamfara

With our security agencies penchant for security janitorial services. I am afraid we're about to enter hot soup

GeneralFarouq:
[/b]Oh I get where you are coming from.,
Then we can go for the MI-28NE which is more similar to the Cobra than the MI 35...[b]
Except of course we don't want to source from one nation only... This American attitude is bad for the war
With the MI-28NE, NAF has experience with Russian helis and can easily pilot andmaintain them or help whoever is acquiring it in doing any of these things

Yes naa, the MI-28NE is proven platform also or we go for the Chinese ZE-10 ?

Am thinking the helicopters are for the NA Aviation. Few weeks ago images of NA pilots emerged from Indian am guessing if the NA HQ is opting for there helicopters else where. Just having a wild guess

bidexiii:
Yes naa, the MI-28NE is proven platform also or we go for the Chinese ZE-10 ?

Am thinking the helicopters are for the NA Aviation. Few weeks ago images of NA pilots emerged from Indian am guessing if the NA HQ is opting for there helicopters else where. Just having a wild guess

Thank God the deal was blocked. Why would the army be spending $800 million on helicopters when they have huge defect of tanks, artilleries, and other ground systems. Common protected troops carrying vehicles they don't have they are now going to buy 12 outdated AH-1 helicopters. I guess it's the APKWS that is carrying the bulk of the cost but it is still misplaced priority. The implication of this is that the army is basically trying to use almost all the cash they are getting from the supplementary budget to get the helicopters.
AH-1 is old for God's sake. They don't even know when they would be getting another allocation of this magnitude and they want to waste the opportunity to get hundreds of IFVs, tanks, artilleries and MRAPs. Fvcking morons

RiceProducers:
WVR combat (dogfighting) is not going to be happening unless you have stealth against stealth. Even then, how are you going to be sure you are not going against a machine (unmanned air superiority aircraft). Eventually, I think Russia has the answer to everything with its hypersonic missile technology.

Man, you have way of making very amusing comments.

In the most recent air to air kills in modern air combat, how many fighter jet shoot downs have occurred in BVR ranges?

US navy shoot down of Syaaf fighter jet WVR, F-16 shoot down of SU-24 WVR, Pakistani shoot down of Indian MIG-21 WVR.

What is the probability rate of BVR shoot downs?

You seem to approach actual military engagements with a video game mentality.

Whyem15:
Thank God the deal was blocked. Why would the army be spending $800 million on helicopters when they have huge defect of tanks, artilleries, and other ground systems. Common protected troops carrying vehicles they don't have they are now going to buy 12 outdated AH-1 helicopters. I guess it's the APKWS that is carrying the bulk of the cost but it is still misplaced priority. The implication of this is that the army is basically trying to use almost all the cash they are getting from the supplementary budget to get the helicopters.
AH-1 is old for God's sake. They don't even know when they would be getting another allocation of this magnitude and they want to waste the opportunity to get hundreds of IFVs, tanks, artilleries and MRAPs. Fvcking morons

It's not possible that this is an army purchase.

It is definitely Air Force, but a poor, I'll conceived purchase by the Air Force.

With their fvcking maintenance culture, the useless organization want to get 12 old helicopters for $800 million?

What will the 12 change that hundreds of IFVs and MRAPs won't do and more.

gboye1999:
It appears this was in the works?
Cobra dem. same old deal?

https://punchng.com/us-lawmakers-stop-875m-defence-equipment-sale-to-nigeria/

I actually watched a documentary on the Cobra this morning. What are the odds? Lol

Whyem15:
With their fvcking maintenance culture, the useless organization want to get 12 old helicopters for $800 million?

What will the 12 change that hundreds of IFVs and MRAPs won't do and more.

It is a foolish buy, definitely. That helicopter started production at the early stage of Vietnam war.

kabe1:
It's not possible that this is an army purchase.

It is definitely Air Force, but a poor, I'll conceived purchase by the Air Force.

Why is it not possible that it's an army purchase? Considering they've been talking about army aviation wing for years and they've been training pilots too?

The airforce still has 5/6 MI-35s waiting to be delivered from Russia so why would they suddenly start going for American helos when they've been using Russian for several years.
I don't believe the airforce is dumb. Can only be the army, they are the ones that purchase like morons.

Hoverbird:
Ghen! Ghen!

. We should hold these useless politician/leaders for this .

Nigeria Army is the most backwards goåts in our list of stupid units.. They have no value for the lives of their men..Is this buy necessary at this point?

Whyem15:
[/b]Thank God the deal was blocked. Why would the army be spending $800 million on helicopters when they have huge defect of tanks, artilleries, and other ground systems[b] Common protected troops carrying vehicles they don't have they are now going to buy 12 outdated AH-1 helicopters. I guess it's the APKWS that is carrying the bulk of the cost but it is still misplaced priority. The implication of this is that the army is basically trying to use almost all the cash they are getting from the supplementary budget to get the helicopters.
AH-1 is old for God's sake. They don't even know when they would be getting another allocation of this magnitude and they want to waste the opportunity to get hundreds of IFVs, tanks, artilleries and MRAPs. Fvcking morons

Mate what's your brand of bear .....
But let's be honest only God knows deal this present administration is going for, if the US lawmakers do not block the deal, how would we know we are buying attack helicopters. Untill they are been delivered !

[/b]Talking about the deal, did you read the deal well, we are not buying only the attack helicopters, it also includes helicopters, the proposed sale included 28 helicopter engines produced by GE Aviation, 14 military-grade aircraft navigation systems made by Honeywell, and 2,000 advanced precision kill weapon systems—laser-guided rocket munitions, according to information sent by the State Department to Congress and reviewed by Foreign Policy magazine[b]

If we continue acquiring equipments like these will get there soon

cutievik:
Nigeria Army is the most backwards goåts in our list of stupid units.. They have no value for the lives of their men..Is this buy necessary at this point?

Can you just hear yourself
It's over 100% over necessary at this point . Before you pass your judgement we are not 100% sure if the attack helicopters where for the NA, we are just speculating.
People like you would criticize that they are not equipping the army, now that they are equipping them you're complaining. What kind of human being are you

Covert1:
Why would the Rafale destroy the JF-17 in a realistic scenario? I guess by realistic u mean BVR. Btw in exercises you demonstrate as realistic as possible a combat engagement. Facts don't lie the Pakistanis won. Period.

The Pakistanis are some of the best airforce pilots it the world BUT this exercise is a very remote possibility in an actual war. The JF 17 wouod be seeing / enjoying clear skies with nothing showing on is headset display when missiles from Rafale would hit.
Don't forget Rafale disappears from radar or creates fake new Rafales at the touch of a button. India's Rafales also have long range AA missiles that behave like dogfighting combat aircraft themselves.

GeneralFarouq:
Compared to what other US allies have done, Nigeria would qualify has a saint... yet they sell and even gift these nations hardware ....This is in no way to justify any misdoing by our government.

Instead of them to give us discount by 2 get 1 free

Xbee007:
It is a foolish buy, definitely. That helicopter started production at the early stage of Vietnam war.

I beg your pardon. The AH1 is still in service. The reliability is 4x that of MI 35M.
I still wonder why people don't get updated about things. The version Nigeria is planing to buy would be a able to fire APKWS enabled rockets and ATGMs, dies that sound like old tech.


How could anyone say AH1s are old?. Of course they were active during the Vietnam War. Of course there are modern versions flying in Israel, Jordan, Egypt, Morocco et. C.
The most serially modernized and upgraded combat helicopters in history. AH64 Apache is a slight departure from AH1 not the modern version of AH1.
The Jonathan administration actually attempted to buy these choppers in 2013.

As for Congress blocking it, Nigeria is actually just playing a good game.
The Plan B would be MI28N (which I don't like) or more of the MI35M
When the Americans come with sanctions, Nigeria wants to be able to use lobbyists to make the point "we came to you first" and you said NO.
The US may also be concerned (their capacity for silliness is high) about a future Nigerian civil War with their weapons falling in the hands of one side and the negative publicity.

Odunayaw:
With our security agencies penchant for security janitorial services. I am afraid we're about to enter hot soup

The hot soup have been served already if you don't know...!!

RiceProducers:
I beg your pardon. The AH1 is still in service. The reliability is 4x that of MI 35M.
I still wonder why people don't get updated about things. The version Nigeria is planing to buy would be a able to fire APKWS enabled rockets and ATGMs.

How could anyone say AH1s are old?. Of course they were active during the Vietnam War. Of course there are modern versions flying in Israel, Jordan, Egypt, Morocco et. C.
The most serially modernized and upgraded combat helicopters in history. AH64 Apache is a slight departure from AH1 not the modern version of AH1.

As for Congress blocking it, Nigeria is actually just playing a game. The Plan B would be MI28N (which I don't like) or more of the MI35M
When the Americans come with sanctions, Nigeria wants to be able to use lobbyists to make the point "we came to you first" and you said NO.
The US may also be concerned (their capacity for silliness is high) about a future Nigerian civil War with their weapons falling in the hands of one side and the negative publicity.

Is it still in production?

MI-35M can also fire guided missile. Fvck that overpriced copter.

Whyem15:
Why is it not possible that it's an army purchase? Considering they've been talking about army aviation wing for years and they've been training pilots too?

The airforce still has 5/6 MI-35s waiting to be delivered from Russia so why would they suddenly start going for American helos when they've been using Russian for several years.
I don't believe the airforce is dumb. Can only be the army, they are the ones that purchase like morons.

The army doesn't have any infrastructure on ground to fly advanced helicopters.

Army aviation would most likely come in the form of light utility helicopters, not an advanced helicopter like the AH-Z1.

We don't know the current status of the MI-35M's still in Russia.

The only plausible purchaser is the Air Force.

Whyem15:
With their fvcking maintenance culture, the useless organization want to get 12 old helicopters for $800 million?

What will the 12 change that hundreds of IFVs and MRAPs won't do and more.

You definitely don't know what you are talking about. These IFVs and MRAPs are just prolonging the war. In this Boko Haram war, APCs, IFVs, MRAPs are just good stuff, they are not overwhelming force.
We need overwhelming force to end this quickly and the only way is armed attack helicopters of good reliability.