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Re: Should Sahih Hadiths Really Be 100% Accepted? by compton11(m): 10:46am On Aug 02, 2021 |
Abdoolbuster:nigga worry about your Bible that ain't reliable |
Re: Should Sahih Hadiths Really Be 100% Accepted? by compton11(m): 10:47am On Aug 02, 2021 |
ANTIlSLAM:that Is to me. Imam Bukhari is just a collector of hadith |
Re: Should Sahih Hadiths Really Be 100% Accepted? by ANTIlSLAM(m): 11:36am On Aug 02, 2021 |
compton11: Antichristian see your life outside, God no go shame us oo. 1 Like |
Re: Should Sahih Hadiths Really Be 100% Accepted? by Abdoolbuster: 12:19pm On Aug 02, 2021 |
compton11:Two poke wave fallacy How is the Bible not reliable when even your Quran claim to affirm it? Can you see how you're digging holes for yourself? |
Re: Should Sahih Hadiths Really Be 100% Accepted? by Abdoolbuster: 12:21pm On Aug 02, 2021 |
Alhajiemeritus: How wrong? I am willing to learn sir |
Re: Should Sahih Hadiths Really Be 100% Accepted? by Abdoolbuster: 12:34pm On Aug 02, 2021 |
Alhajiemeritus: So which liar wrote it and attributed it to Bukhari? Ooh! Maybe another liar like Hafs Or just like Ibn Isham wrote Sīrat Rasūl Allāh (biography of Rasul Allah) and then lied that it was Ibn Ishaq who wrote it Ibn Isham wrote As-Sīrah an-Nabawiyyah (The Life of the Prophet) claiming that it was from the Sirat written by Ibn Ishaq, this is a lie as there is no manuscript attributed to Ibn Ishaq anywhere in the world Why una like to lie gan sef? tí what end? @antiislam @Hendtime a Make una come see o
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Re: Should Sahih Hadiths Really Be 100% Accepted? by compton11(m): 8:10pm On Aug 02, 2021 |
Abdoolbuster:nigga did u just said Quran affirm b Bible reliability? Where is the evidence of that? And also explain these same verse to me New International Version Saul was thirty years old when he became king, and he reigned over Israel forty- two years 1 Samuel 13:1 In The same verse King James Bible Saul reigned one year; and when he had reigned two years over Israel-1 Samuel 13:1 This version even omitted the age JPS Tanakh 1917 Saul was --years old when he began to reign; and two years he reigned over Israel. If bible is reliable as u claimed then What happened there Mr man? |
Re: Should Sahih Hadiths Really Be 100% Accepted? by compton11(m): 8:13pm On Aug 02, 2021 |
ANTIlSLAM:but why u wailing and gnashing of teeth? Bukhari is a human that can make mistake. |
Re: Should Sahih Hadiths Really Be 100% Accepted? by Abdoolbuster: 7:58am On Aug 03, 2021 |
compton11: Like the Bible was originally written in English? This is a translational error as the original Hebrew was only talking about Saul's years of reign before the event which occur happened not his age. In the Hebrew text it was written like Saul was a son of ____ year, when.... As the exact age is not stated in the Hebrew text, KJV used one to corroborate the year of his reign during which the event described happened. Now to the Qur'an affirming the Bible Quran 10:94 Now, if you are in doubt concerning what We have revealed to you, then ask those who have been reading the Book before you. It is the truth that has come to you from your Lord, so do never become one of those who doubt You can see different translations in the screenshot, now tell me what Allah mean by pointing Muslims to the previous prophets/ books, which book exactly? If you say that it's not the Bible then tell us which book talked about God's dealing with the Israelites, I am patiently waiting NB: see how oh Muhammad or Prophet was smuggled in by translators
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Re: Should Sahih Hadiths Really Be 100% Accepted? by compton11(m): 12:37pm On Aug 03, 2021 |
Abdoolbuster:heheheehe the same translation y'all niggas are reading every day,u don't even know the correct one. Abdoolbuster:boy show me that Hebrew Bible! Abdoolbuster:see how u confused like a motherf.ucker,now u as Christian apologetic,how old was Saul when he became a King and how many year did reign? Abdoolbuster:quote where Bible was mentioned there? Allah was talking about injeel and Torah not Bible that is filled with paul letters to Galatians,thesalonkks,philomons and so on. Abdoolbuster:in that different,now show me where GO was mistaken as COME there,those translation are of the same meaning! Abdoolbuster:injeel,torah,zabur and so on,not bible that was compiled by unknown niggas. Abdoolbuster:any book talked about it,even story books and how is isreal gat to do with This? Abdoolbuster:tell me any Muslims that depends on Quran translation unlike u Christians that rely on English bible. |
Re: Should Sahih Hadiths Really Be 100% Accepted? by Abdoolbuster: 1:07pm On Aug 03, 2021 |
compton11: Where is the injeel? Do you even know what injeel mean? compton11: Oh you suddenly became blind and didn't see the differences? Life is truly difficult for those who decided to be blind even when God has given them sight compton11: Again I ask you where is injeel, taurath and Zabur? The dilemma of abdools, whenever they want the Bible will be a good place where Muhammad the Arabian desert assassin and caravan robber is prophesied whenever the don't want the Bible is unreliable because it was compiled by unknown men. Bunch of retards, none of you can point to one fragment of Uthmanic Quraishi Quran which he sent to five different cities just between 100 years of Muhammad's death yet you want to denigrate the Bible which have different manuscripts in different languages dating 600 years before your Arabian desert terrorist was born and those manuscripts are still available till date compton11: Oh! Suddenly you don't rely on English translation of the Quran? So you that do not speak Arabic will get the meaning of the Arabic words from your anus? |
Re: Should Sahih Hadiths Really Be 100% Accepted? by compton11(m): 1:35pm On Aug 03, 2021 |
Abdoolbuster:heheheehe so it means bible,right? So this verse must part of injeel u said it is Bible? 2 Timothy 4:13 New Living Translation When you come, be sure to bring the coat I left with Carpus at Troas. Also bring my books, and especially my papers. Abdoolbuster:then[b] tell me the Different there[/b],just because they wrote it in their form of English doesn't make it contradicted unlike your Bible AND DON'T FUCKIN SKIP THE QUESTION I ASKED U. HOW OLD WAS SAUL WHEN HE BECAME KING AND HOW MANY YEARS DID HE REIGN? Abdoolbuster:gone just has many books that came before! And what do u want it for,was it sent to you non isrealite? Abdoolbuster:nigga caravan rubber? Where is the evidence of the? Arabian desert assassin? Where book called him that? Which bible evidence talk about him? Quote it. Abdoolbuster:so are u saying letters of Paul to Philomen and so on is injeel? Abdoolbuster:what makes uthman Quran different from the earliest One? Abdoolbuster:so are u saying all the verse I quote to u are the same? tell me And show me how the manuscript of Quran are different,the only difference u will see there is text or word which are the same meaning. Abdoolbuster:why would we? English is not the only language use to translate Quran. Have u ever seen any muslim praying solat in any language than Arabic? Abdoolbuster:how u know I don't speak Arabic? Plus if I don't speak Arabic,thus that means I should be using translation quran to pray solat? |
Re: Should Sahih Hadiths Really Be 100% Accepted? by ANTIlSLAM(m): 5:54pm On Aug 03, 2021 |
compton11: Uhmm even muhammad made silly mistakes as a human |
Re: Should Sahih Hadiths Really Be 100% Accepted? by ANTIlSLAM(m): 5:56pm On Aug 03, 2021 |
Abdoolbuster: This people don dey finish Islam gradually Alhajiemeritus you deserve an award 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Should Sahih Hadiths Really Be 100% Accepted? by Abdoolbuster: 7:36pm On Aug 03, 2021 |
compton11: You have a very big problem than I thought earlier, how do a direct instruction invalidate the Bible? FYI: the Bible is not just a book, it is a book of books get that into your empty cranium compton11: LMAO like the way y'all tried to twist the part that said Allah and the angels pray for Muhammad? Different translations says Allah sends his blessings and the angels pray to Allah to bless Muhammad when the Arabic version said solat when did Salat become blessing? maybe Allah was drunk when he was telling Muhammad or Muhammad was still under the bewitchment of shaytan when he heard it from jibreel compton11: I don't know his age all I know is that he was a king in Israel, so? compton11:where is it? Is my question whatever I want it for is none of your business compton11: He is a terrorist, the Arabian desert is full of different robbers and assassins Muhammad is one of them. Which book? Here you have it It is reported on the authority of Abu Huraira that he heard the Messenger of Allah say: I have been commanded to fight against people, till they testify to the fact that there is no god but Allah, and believe in me (that) I am the messenger (from the Lord) and in all that I have brought. And when they do it, their blood and riches are guaranteed protection on my behalf except where it is justified by law, and their affairs rest with Allah. Sahih Muslim 21b Book 1 Hadith 31 Abu Huraira really messed up Muhammad for you guys only that y'all are too dull to learn compton11: It's like you have a very low capacity kind of brain, when did I claim that the Bible talked about Muhammad? It is some of you that want to paint him like he's a prophet, we Christians don't know him as a prophet he's an impostor. He tried to align with Jews they bursted him he left, he tried the Christians they bursted him so he hated them both. No Jew or Christian took him serious. Only people like Ahmed Deedat and Zakir Naik two idiots are trying to place the Arabian caravan robber as someone who was prophesied in the Bible. No biblical passage talk about the pedophile. Have you ever read about any prophet in the Bible who had no prophecy? Muhammad has no prophecy therfore he can never be a prophet compton11: Letters of Paul are letters of Paul compton11: If they are the same why did he burn all other manuscripts? If the former ones has no errors according to Uthman why would he need to write another one in quraishy dialect? Beside, even the lie that it was written in quraishy dialect can not fly as the earliest Arabic language has no diacritics so how could one write in different dialect when there are no diacritics? Just how? Where is those Uthmanic Qirat today? Not even one page escaped to the present time, in the word of Yassir Qadhi "the Islamic standard narrative has holes in it" Gone are the days y'all lie about no different Quran, as at today there are well over 30 different Quran like Hafs, Warsh etc? compton11: Liar! Warsh is different from Hafs stop lying compton11: Because your Allah does not understand another language? compton11: It means that you want to twist the things to suit your lies here. No room for Taqiyya you either accept that Uthman messed y'all up by burning other Quranic materials for his supposedly imaginary nonexistent codex If you say those recitations are just dialect differences then you will have to tell us how uthman burn people tongues because you can only burn something concrete not something as abstract as recitation. You have the floor! |
Re: Should Sahih Hadiths Really Be 100% Accepted? by compton11(m): 5:38am On Aug 04, 2021 |
Abdoolbuster:heheheehe it is also filled with paul letters and statements of unknown niggas. Abdoolbuster:mumu يصلون can mean blessing or praying solat. Nigga u don't know ARABIC,let we that know it teach u. But pls show me the translation of the verse That says they are praying solat on prophet Muhammed! Abdoolbuster:heheheehe was he not ____ years old ? as says by one of the version of your reliable Bible? Abdoolbuster:heheheehe. Which if the three Version bible concerning Saul age is correct? Abdoolbuster:so where is desert robber in that Hadith? And also the hadith means I have been commanded to fight against people that fight me till........ He was referring to the pagans of mecca that were prosecuting him and his people then Now collect your own Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. Matthew 10:34 Dont also forget Jesus stole maize during the Sabbath Abdoolbuster:u said Muslims use bible to justify his prophecy,then tell me the verse they use to use ! Abdoolbuster:u Christians get prophet? Well it ain't new cos jews doesn't take Jesus as anything either Jesus was only sent to isreal and he confirmed it with his own mouth,yall just wasting your time. Abdoolbuster:align on What? Pls tell me Abdoolbuster:these two men make your evangelists and pastors tremble. Abdoolbuster:nigga pedophile? Nah he aint! plus mary your human god mother was 13 years old when he married Joseph a 90 years old carpenter and what are u going to call that? Plus the jews your masters says that u can marry a girl of 3 years old. Abdoolbuster:where is the prophecy of amos,e Ezekiel,jeremiah? Abdoolbuster:maybe in your joke book,but he has in the Torah,injeel. Abdoolbuster:then what was it doing in your so called word of God? Abdoolbuster:because it won't cause confusion like how Bible caused confusion now. Other Arab tribes were writing their own Quran in their own dialect and tone and that can cause wahala for non Arabs,so he burnt those manuscripts and wrote it in Quran Quraysh dialect which was the dialect it was in the first place. Abdoolbuster:well I have told u the reason Abdoolbuster:heheheehe Arab are so diverse just like Yoruba People,so what u talking about? Ijebu people will call hello -Ẹwẹso oooo While Ibadan will call it -Enlẹ ooooooooo Same meaning different dialect. And it is still the same. Abdoolbuster:uthman was not only quran writer,so why u will be asking of it? Many people have written quran after him and all of it were correct except the fake one Christians are writing and we always busrt u. Abdoolbuster:heheheehe hafs,warsh were Quran writer that has few different writing style it ,still it is the same . For example In hafs Lord was written as مالك While warsh written it as ملك And it is the same. And how is yasir qadi statement has to with Quran? Abdoolbuster:the difference is writing style,or u can show me the difference then. Abdoolbuster:mumu was it not only one language God talk to Moses? Abdoolbuster:boy what is the meaning of taqiyyah? Abdoolbuster:heheheehe boy pls! during the olden days even till now,people write what they speak with their tongue. |
Re: Should Sahih Hadiths Really Be 100% Accepted? by Abdoolbuster: 2:41pm On Aug 04, 2021 |
compton11: No Christian is against the letter of Paul, Paul is an apostle and we treat him as that nothing more. Only Muslims who have problems with Paul's letters because his writings does not conform with the gabbage of islam compton11: Liar! Are you not tired of telling the same lie? Everywhere the word Solat appear in Qur'an it is translated prayer only in that particular surat y'all lie and twist the word to mean blessing بركة is not يصلو يصلو = pray بركة = blessing Can you see how y'all try to twist the truth? In case you are in doubt, please show us where these words are used to mean anything other than the one I wrote above apart from surat Al Ahzab. I'll wait compton11: Allah and His angels send blessings on the Prophet: O ye that believe! Send ye blessings on him, and salute him with all respect Quran 33:56 Read also verse 43 Why was Solat translated to mean blessing? What happen to Baraka? Bunch of liars compton11:none, so what? compton11: where is the bolded in the hadith? Why do you always lie? Oh boy? Has shaytan bewitched you like Muhammad? He was not referring to the pagan of mecca in that Hadiths he clearly said people, unless you want to say that human do not exist anywhere else in the time of Mohammed except mecca compton11: You just have to cut out the remaining part of the passage to suit your foolish narrative read you'll understand 35 For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. 36 And a person's enemies will be those of his own household. 37 Whoever loves father or mother more than me is not worthy of me, and whoever loves son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. 38 And whoever does not take his cross and follow me is not worthy of me. 39 Whoever finds his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life for my sake will find it. Jesus was talking about a family setting here and the sword there was the conflict which would happen in a particular family where there are belivers and nonbelievers. Oh! You're still one of those who still go about with this lame statement of Jesus stealing corn on Sabbath day? Now I understand that you are a wannabe dawagandist In Mathew chapter 12 please show where it was recorded there that they were stealing. This is another of many of your lies compton11: I am not here to spoonfeed you compton11: Did you just ask this? Go and ask your sheikh compton11: OK compton11: Those potatoes? compton11: Is he not? compton11: LMAO, check the Bible their prophecies are there intact compton11: You claim that Jesus was only sent to Israel yet your Quran recorded that his book was Injeel, didn't your hoely Qur'an say that Allah won't send a prophet to any people but in their own language? Then how come Injeel is the book of Jesus when he was sent to Israel? compton11: I wouldn't have answers you because this is childish but for the sake of others who might be interested in the discussion. The letters of Paul are doctrinal, admonition and encouragement for the early Christians as such they are still valid to us this day. Remember, I told you that that the Bible is not just a book but the book of books. You are just another deluded abdool compton11: How did he have to burn it then there are others who wrote after he has burnt the earliest Quranic Qirat and Razm? That other Arab tribes were writing in their own dialect is a bloody lie. Every language has dialect yes but the Arabic language in the time of Muhammad as well as his companion (gang of robbers) the Arabic language is only written with consonants only without diacritics. Without diacritics you can not write in different dialect, try another lie. Utham is the founder of the modern day Islam as it were compton11: Liar try another line this has been debunked. Even Muhammad said that he received the Qur'an in 7 different Qirat (recitations) but Utham burnt all for a quraishy Quran. Even if the seven Qirat survive (it is not found anywhere) take out 7 from the 37 different Quranic versions today we still have 30, so where did the 30 come from? compton11: He burnt all other version for his own quraishy Quran so where did all others get their own from? Where is Uthmanic Quran? You have not answers this question since if you won't answer then don't quote me again, idiot compton11: Where did they get their version from because Uthman burnt everything before them answer this questions or go kiss the black stone after drinking camel urine compton11: God ask your scholars that had lied to you that Quran is only one written in heaven and meditated to Muhammad, I'm not here to educate you on the foolishness of Islam compton11:So God was changing to different languages when he was speaking to Moses? I blame myself for engaging you, I thought you were sensible but you are proofing to the contrary compton11: ask the Arabian thief compton11: You can not write a word to be pronounced in different dialect of a language without diacritics Idiot, if you won't answer my questions like I have answers yours don't quote me just ignore me because I won't give you that attention you're craving |
Re: Should Sahih Hadiths Really Be 100% Accepted? by compton11(m): 12:35pm On Aug 09, 2021 |
Abdoolbuster:so letter of Paul that was patched together now became word of God known as Bible? Abdoolbuster:u ain't know Arabic and your dumb ass want to rely on Google translation. The source of the two words are different Solah of blessing is تصلية which can also mean blessing, praising and so on but sometimes this تصلية can also be changed to صلاة but the solat of praying solat can't be changed to تصلية While the second one is صلاة which means praying solat. So how can u be praying solat on human being ? Is that what your dumb ass trying to prove? That is why muslim used to say: اللهم صل على محمد وعلى ال محمد كما صليت على ابراهيم وعلى ال ابراهيم انك حميد مجيد. Allahuma solih Allah sayidina Muhammed wa ala ali sayidina Muhammed kama solayta ala sayidina ibrahim wa ala ali sayidina ibrahim innaka hamidu majid Oh Allah bless Muhammed and his households as u blessed prophet ibrahim and his households,verily you are thanked and the answerer. And the verse u quote above,where is the verse says praying on him as u claimed? Abdoolbuster:nigga did u just say none? Aren't u sure of your Bible again? Ok saul was thirty years old then Oh was he thirty years old or ----years old? Abdoolbuster:heheheehe mumu who are the people he was referring to if not the pagans of mecca That were prosecuting Him? Or are U saying the people there referred to all all his families,friends and children? Even the ayah of Quran confirmed what he said Allah says Fight in the way of Allah those who fight against you but do not transgress. Indeed, Allah does not like transgressors-Quran 2:190 Abdoolbuster:pathetic things is that,the way your dumb ass explained it would be difference from how another sheep will explain it and let assume it is prophet Muhammed that says this in the sahih hadith,chai heaven will fall. Now kindly explain do not think I brought peace unto the earth but sword. We are talking about peace here. Abdoolbuster:was the maize belongs to Him? Did he take permission before he plucked it? Abdoolbuster:now u have to spoon feed me and tell me the verse Muslims always use to justify prophet Muhammed prophethood or are u scared? Abdoolbuster:which prophet was sent to u and back it with bible evidence. Abdoolbuster:didn't he said he was only sent to the lost sheep of the Israel? Are u isreal lost sheep? Abdoolbuster:pastors,nigga! Abdoolbuster:no he wasn't,the story of hijrah proved it wrong And don't skip my statement mary your human god mother was 13 years old when he married Joseph a 90 years old carpenter and what are u going to call that? Plus the jews your masters says that u can marry a girl of 3 years old and what are u going to say about it? Abdoolbuster:heheheehe show me where their prophethoods was prophesized in the bible? Abdoolbuster:I didn't claimed it,he claimed it with his own mouth Abdoolbuster:wasn't injeel came in his language? Injeel was ascended in his language. Abdoolbuster:how is The letters of Paul to Corinthians,romans,galatians and his statement about his raincoat concern a Nigeria Nigga like u? Abdoolbuster:heheheehe a book of book with unknown authors,contraditions and errors. A book of saul was ---- years old Hmmmmm. Abdoolbuster:because all those that wrote after him used Quraysh dialect. And pls Razm mean drawing,if u don't understand Arabic,just the mess up. Abdoolbuster:pathetic how a low level Christian saying it was lie. Prove it . Abdoolbuster:evidence of what u said And u supposed to worry about Jesus and his gang of robbers that stole maize not prophet Muhammed and companion that u have no evidence of what they stole. Abdoolbuster:while Paul was founder of christianity,mumu Even during the olden,yoruba used to write in different dialect. Ondo people will write -ULE,UDI,UGI while Oyo people will write-ULE,IDI,UGI. Abdoolbuster:chai is that how much u are dumb? Recitation in the sense of the voice beauty u recite the quran. The way Yoruba read quran is difference from the way Hausa recite It. If u Can send message to me I can show u. Abdoolbuster:he burnt all the writing dialect that was different from Quraysh. Abdoolbuster:I have already told u to show me the difference in the versions of Quran u always claimed Abdoolbuster:where did those whites that translated things fall apart book got it from? Abdoolbuster:I've already answered all your dumb question. Uthmanic quran ain't thing,quran are the same from day one unlike Bible . Abdoolbuster:well u can go and eat pussy too How many time u want to ask this your dumb question? Abdoolbuster:u mean the foolishness of Bible god? Do u know Bible says something about foolishness of god? Abdoolbuster:where did I say God was using different languages to talk to Moses? Are u sure u don't have eyes problem? Abdoolbuster:u mean the jew thief known for stealing maize? Mumu What is the meaning of taqiyyah? Abdoolbuster:that shows how dumb u are . What is the difference between Give me this ? And Gimme this? Abdoolbuster:I answered all your dumb questions,keep it coming. |
Re: Should Sahih Hadiths Really Be 100% Accepted? by Abdoolbuster: 2:18pm On Aug 09, 2021 |
compton11: How many times will I have to tell you dumb ass that the Bible is the book of books? It seems like the camel urine is really affecting your Brian compton11: See gymnastics on top bloody lies Solat means prayer nothing more! olodo compton11:I have no info on what you are looking for so I am not obliged to lie like y'all do. Christians don't do Taqiya compton11:you're on your own compton11: LMAO you're so pathetic! You can't even tell a simple lie with sense compton11:peace yes! Show any biblical or historical proof that Jesus ever lead any insurrection, not even in your hoely satanic Qur'an compton11: The Israelites has instructions from YHWH which allow people to go into farms and take things which they would eat not sell if it was stealing for sure the pharisees who don't even like him would have accused him of stealing but they only complained about eating with unclean hands on a Sabath. Hence their complain was not plucking maize but eating with unwashed hands as well as doing it on the Sabath. So he corrected them in the same way immediately that eating without washing their hands has no effect on them as speaking corrupt words would have on them. He equally tell them that he Jesus is greater than the Sabath he is the lord of the Sabath compton11: If you don't know then go back to kindergarten compton11: I am a lost sheep of the household of Israel, yes! He was sent to Israel and through Israel the whole family of the world will be blessed have you no sense at all? compton11:Islamic bandit, èèyàn Muham-MAD compton11:[] No she wasn't 13 in any biblical account you're a bloody liar, no Jew is same as your pedophile Muhammad. No Jew will marry a 3 years old child. You're surely looking for subordinate to your pervert religion in bringing in Jews and Judaism. You guys can't just do without lying about others? Why? compton11:who's prophethood? Is this one hight or what? compton11: Injeel is a Greek word so how did Allah miss Hebrew and even Aramaic and opted for a Greek word? Is Allah drunk or what? Didn't y'all claim that the Qur'an is an uncreated eternal word of God? So how did Allah miss out on the language of the Jews? Was Jesus sent to Greece? Abi Allah don take Tramadol ni? compton11:you're still ignorant about the fact that Bible is a book of books? How many times will I have to tell you this? compton11:what nonsense is this again? Haven't we takeld about this before? What is wrong with this blockhead? compton11: Mumu abdool Razm is not the bone of contention don't hide from the question. How did Uthman burn people's tongue? lmao OK let's go with you that others wrote with quraishy dialect, so how did the different Quranic version find their way in to the market today? Abdool you have no place to hide. I am abdoolbuster an I'm here to burst all your bubbles compton11:prove what again? With all I have said here what else do you blockedhead want? compton11: Yes I have in the hadiths when he was accused of stealing from the booties and Allah has to reveal a verse to defend Muhammad the thief that stole from his fellow thieves he even asked another community to join him in attacking the Romans so that they can get the blonde girls hahahahaha compton11: Paul is a follower of Christ, hence he's a Christian. compton11: Ọ̀yọ́ people will write Ule? Are mad or what? Yorùbá don't write in different dialects they spoke different dialect not write in different dialect olodo ni ẹ. Stop lying how many lies do you think you would have to write here in the defense of Allah the mood god? Lmao abdools always performing Taqiyya in defense of Allah's Islam and Muhammad's Hadiths compton11: He burnt all yet today we have more than 30 different Qirat? Where did these come from? compton11: Why is Hafs different form Warsh? Stop lying blockhead stop lying! compton11:Well this ain't new Allah was the first to eat pussy of Marryam in suratul Maryam compton11: I will keep asking until you give answer, so be my guest compton11: The Bible never claim God to be foolish, did you go to school at all? The people were given instructions to follow and they refuse to follow meaning that they don't take such instruction to be wise so they were told that even as they think that the instruction of God was foolish that folly is wiser than them. Blockhead stop lying compton11:it is there in the quote stop feigning ignorance, y'all try to play dumb whenever you're caught compton11: He was never accuse of stealing anything anywhere by anyone unlike the caravan robber whose follower accused him of stealing clothes from the bootie of war lmao compton11: Ask Muhammad compton11: LMAO is this the difference between all the 37 different quranic versions? Why then did Uthman burn them if they were not different? compton11: You call all these rubbish you drop above answer? You must be high on cow dung and camel urine |
Re: Should Sahih Hadiths Really Be 100% Accepted? by m1d2y3u0suf: 6:22pm On Aug 11, 2021 |
Before saying that all hadith are not authentic, do you know anything about hadith Al Qudsi. I think your research has gone no where. [quote author=Crayfish09 post=103245541]Assalamu Alaikum brothers, I'm asking this question because of the videos of an Islamic scholar, Sheikh Abduljabbar that I came across last week. He made some points about the hadiths being unreliable and even gave some proofs (which I extensively made a research on and found 90% to be true) and challenged northern scholars to prove him wrong or debate with him. So far, none of them has stepped forward to do so even though they have been condemning and cursing him. In fact, he was kicked out of Kano and barred from holding lectures. If you still believe that all Sahih hadiths are authentic please give me your reasons. I am not here to argue with anyone but to learn. These are some of the things I find questionable about hadiths: The collection process: Imam Buhari collected 500,000 narrations and found only 8,000 to be authentic. Looking at these numbers, it's very easy for the sound ones to be excluded and fake ones to be accepted. Contradictions with the Qur'an: maybe it's my lack of understanding, but it looks to be violating some of the commandments of Allah. For example, 1)the Qur'an says there is no compulsion in religion while the Hadiths call for the killing of apostates. 2) The Quran specifies 100 lashes for Zina (with no distinction between adultery and fornication) while the Hadiths call for stoning to death. 3) The Quran justifies killing only on the grounds of murder or war while the hadiths do so on adultery, apostesy, homosexuality, blasphemy, and so one which are the main issues that the Kafirs use to condemn us. 4) The Qur'an encourages Muslims to refrain from approaching women (sexually) during their periods but the hadiths suggest so. There are so many others that I noticed. Contradictions within hadiths: you'll find "Sahih" hadith contradicting with "Sahih" from other scholars or even within the same collection. Take for example, 1) - Hazrat Ibn Abbas said: Rasool (S) slept for a while – went to the Masjid and prayed (‘offered’ Namaaz) without Wudhu. (Bukhari, Kitabul Wudhu) - The Sahaba of Rasool (S) used to ‘perform’ Namaaz without Wudhu after waking up from sleep. (Muslim with Fathil Mulhim pg 500) 2) - Hazrat Usman said: If a man withdraws before ejaculation, let him wash the genitals and make Wudhu (No bath necessary). (Bukhari, vol 1 Kitabul Wudhu pg 164 Hadith 176) - Bath becomes mandatory after penetration. (Muwatta pg 22) 3) - Rasool (S) said, “Renew Wudhu after eating anything cooked on fire.” (Muslim vol 1 pg 486) - BUT, Ibn Abbas says, “Rasoolullah ate a roasted goat shoulder and then prayed without ablution.” (Same vol 1 pg 488) 4) - If someone passes in front of a praying person, stop him. If he doesn’t stop, kill him because he is Shayitaan. (Bukhari vol 1 pg 68) - But: Abdullah Ibn Abbas said, “I rode a donkey to MINA. Rasoolullah (S) was leading the prayer. I passed before some praying ones and got off from the animal and joined the prayers. None objected. (Bukhari vol 1 pg 107) Again, I came across many of such examples. Lastly, the ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS HADITHS: Many of them are absolutely insulting to our holy prophet Muhammad. Some made narrations of him lying on his stomach while married women rubbed his back. Some said he used to pee while standing. Some talked about the sun traveling to prostrate before Allah everyday Some said Moses sent prophet Muhammad back to Allah multiple times in order to have our salat reduced to 5 Some portrayed prophet Muhammad as a reckless killer Some said pandemics can never reach Makkah and Madinah but Covid-19 proves otherwise. Many of them are absolutely degrading to women. Some have grouped them with devils and animals. Some condone rape and stealing (especially at times of war) The list is just endless. If you have some logical explanations for these factors please do share with me. I have come to realize that most of the Islamic laws we have today lay much more emphasis on these hadiths rather than the Qur'an too. NB: I don't completely disbelieve the hadiths. There are many beautiful ones that should be accepted even IF they didn't come from the prophet. [/quote] |
Re: Should Sahih Hadiths Really Be 100% Accepted? by compton11(m): 2:01pm On Aug 26, 2021 |
Abdoolbuster:see this dumb stupid Which book of books Book of books that fill with contradictions Oya How old was Saul when he began to reign? Abdoolbuster:chai and u are doing as if u know any Arabic,in Arabic same word can mean different things but the way u used it will let u know what u are talking about. Stop arguing about this cos your dumb ass don't have knowledge about what I are arguing on. Abdoolbuster:heheheeh Why ? is Bible not book of books again Help me ask holy spirit that how old was Saul when he began to reign and how many years did he reigned. Since Bible was confused about it,then holy spirit might knows it Abdoolbuster:I've already told u Take it or leave it The pagans of Mecca called for war against him and they see that war. Abdoolbuster:how do u know a person that said this never lead any insurrection when u don't know his story when he was around 18 years old to 29 years old? Abdoolbuster:where is the evidence of that? Is it his maize farm? Abdoolbuster:what a logic? Must somebody tell u that something is not good before u know it is not good? Plus the unlawful they said he was doing in Sabbath day,what is that unlawful? And also in that verses of Mathew,mark and Luke that recorded this,I never see where they said he is eating with unclean hand, bring another lie. Abdoolbuster:see how u are twisting your so called book of books Eating with unwashed was never part of the maize story. Eating with unwashed hand was recorded in Luke 7 that was when he and his dispcles were eating bread Stop lying here U that want to burst the abdools but known for lying. Abdoolbuster:different story Pharisees didn't say he was eating with unwashed hand when they caught him stealing maize. But they told him he was doing unlawful stuff in Sabbath which mean stealing as Bible said. Do not steal. Abdoolbuster:chai the story is even confusing sef in your so called book of books Cos in Mathew concerning this maize stuff,Jesus claimed to be greater than temple not being the lord of Sabbath. So which one are we going to believe now? Greater than temple or being lord of the Sabbath? Abdoolbuster:no Christian knows it. Jesus said I wasn't sent but to the lost sheep of the house of Israel Abdoolbuster:and u will explain to me how your dumb ass is lost sheep of the house of Israel Abdoolbuster:evidence of where they called him bandit From the Qur'an or the Bible I need evidence,now. Abdoolbuster:well let hear what your Jew and Catholic said say about that https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://aleteia.org/2019/03/25/how-old-was-mary-when-she-was-pregnant-with-jesus/amp&ved=2ahUKEwiZg8yxxs7yAhWRkxQKHXnFAusQFnoECBoQAQ&usg=AOvVaw31Ajtn5JGMVuzkihl9V5fn&cf=1 some apocryphal accounts state that at the time of her betrothal to Joseph, Mary was 12–14 years old. According to ancient Jewish custom, Mary could have been betrothed at about 12. Hyppolitus of Thebes says that Mary lived for 11 years after the death of her son Jesus, dying in 41 AD. Not let see what Jewish Talmud of your Jew masters said According to the Talmud, a father is commanded not to marry his daughter to anyone until she grows up and says, "I want this one".A marriage that takes place without the consent of the girl is not an effective legal marriage. A ketannah (literally meaning "little [one]" was any girl between the age of 3 years and that of 12 years plus one day;[77] she was subject to her father's authority, and he could arrange a marriage for her without her agreement.[77] However, after reaching the age of maturity, she would have to agree to the marriage to be considered as married.[78][79] If the father was dead or missing, the brothers of the ketannah, collectively, had the right to arrange a marriage for her, as had her mother.[77] In these situations, a ketannah would always have the right to annul her marriage, even if it was the first. Abdoolbuster:boy u stupid? U claimed the prophetood of prophet Muhammad (saw) was never foretold and I ask u where the prophetood of Elijah,Amos, Ezekiel wer foretold before they come. Abdoolbuster:The Arabic word Injil (إنجيل) as found in Islamic texts, and now used also by Muslim non-Arabs and Arab non-Muslims, is derived from the Syriac Aramaic word awongaleeyoon (ܐܘܢܓܠܝܘܢ) found in the Peshitta (Syriac translation of the Bible),[1] which in turn derives from the Greek word euangelion (Εὐαγγέλιον)[2] of the originally Greek language New Testament, where it means "good news" (from Greek "Εὐ αγγέλιον"; Old English "gōdspel"; Modern English "gospel", or "evangel" as an archaism, cf. e.g. Spanish "evangelio" The word Injil occurs twelve times in the Quran Don't be dumb Abdoolbuster:well Bible says this about your God,this is not part of the attributes of our Allah New Living Translation Then the Lord rose up as though waking from sleep, like a warrior aroused from a drunken stupor-pslam 78:65 Chai god Abdoolbuster:uncreated? And what are u insinuating here? Abdoolbuster:chai mumu I have already answer u on that Abdoolbuster:well Bible also have something to say about your god on this one too. New International Version For the foolishness of God is wiser than human wisdom, and the weakness of God is stronger than human strength- Corinthians 1:25 Chai inside Bible Abdoolbuster:and what makes it book of books? Abdoolbuster:no nigga we haven't How old was Saul when he began to reign? Abdoolbuster:then how come your dumb ass included it concerning Qur'an? Abdoolbuster:writing dialect arindin Abdoolbuster:and I'm keep saying,show me those different Qur'an that has different Arabic text especially like the Arabic of shuwa Arab Abdoolbuster:u that can't answer questions concerning your books want to burst bubble? What a joke. Abdoolbuster:Prove it that the other Arab tribes in Arabic never wrote Qur'an in their own dialect. Since u claimed it was a lie Abdoolbuster:pls show me the hadith Abdoolbuster:where did he fight the Romans in his whole life? Chai u are dumb illiterate,the people he fought were eastern Byzantine that was part of Roman empire and the reason why he fought them was because they killed the emissary he sent to them. Come and learn history from people like us Now see Moses did Numbers 31:14-18 New International Version 14 Moses was angry with the officers of the army ,the commanders of thousands and commanders of hundreds—who returned from the battle. 15 “Have you allowed all the women to live?” he asked them. 16 “They were the ones who followed Balaam’s advice and enticed the Israelites to be unfaithful to the Lord in the Peor incident, so that a plague struck the Lord’s people. 17 Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man 18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man. Abdoolbuster:and he founded the religion called Christianity. Abdoolbuster:I made mistake u stupid So it is now u see mistake,but u never said anything when I've been attributing the world 'ULE' to Ondo people. Abdoolbuster:oloriburuku ni e and u are using your hand to lie here. This is one the example https://docplayer.net/amp/20877416-A-lexico-syntactic-analysis-of-selected-dialects-of-yoruba-language-in-nigeria.html Abdoolbuster:chai stop always disgracing yourself on what u have no evidence for Ok where is the evidence of Allah being moon God now? Instead Bible called your god ",sun" Psalm 84:11 For the Lord God is a sun and shield Abdoolbuster:u still haven't answer my question about this taqqiyya stuff. What is the meaning of taqqiyya? Abdoolbuster:Qirat mean reciting So which reciting are u talking about Reciting in different dialect Reciting in different voice style Or reciting in different writing style? So answer that Abdoolbuster:show the difference,let me see it Abdoolbuster:chai see how Jesus would be proud of u with this kind of statement. Abdoolbuster:the one I have already answered or what? Abdoolbuster:the foolishness of God means what? Abdoolbuster:chai and u even make it worse And u are weaving your own story Your foolishness makes u a fool Don't twist things here boy. Abdoolbuster:Then show me where I said God was changing language when he was talking to Moses as u claimed. Cos u claimed u I said it Abdoolbuster:evidence of that,I need it Abdoolbuster:but I think I knew it since you always use it Abdoolbuster:since u claimed to be dumb,find any shuwa Arabs on YouTube and hear their Arabic and compare it to quraysh Arabic of Mecca maybe your stupid ass will understand what I've been saying. Abdoolbuster:I answer all your questions boy. But u are just using logic to answer and ignore most of my own question. |
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