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Righteousness Is Not By Our Works by KaideeGee(m): 10:39pm On Aug 04, 2021
Wednesday
04-08-2021

Peace...

Heavenly Father we are here in accordance with your word that says if we receive insight in your word, we should share it to other brethren. Father we ask that you be ever present with us. I decrease Lord, increase and Glorify yourself in Jesus name. Amen


Therefore by the deeds of the law no flesh will be justified in His sight, for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
Romans 3:20 NKJV

There is no righteousness apart from Christ. No matter how morally upright you are or how law abiding you are, you can never be right in God's eyes, it is only through faith in Jesus Christ the Son of God that we can obtain righteousness.
But let us not do away with the law, for faith does now abolish the law, rather it establishes it. It is through faith that we keep the laws, it is faith that gives redemption from transgressions.

Let us abide in faith, every thing outside of faith is sin.

Shalom

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Re: Righteousness Is Not By Our Works by Kobojunkie: 1:00am On Aug 05, 2021
KaideeGee:

Therefore by the deeds of the law no flesh will be justified in His sight, for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
Romans 3:20 NKJV

There is no righteousness apart from Christ. No matter how morally upright you are or how law abiding you are, you can never be right in God's eyes, it is only through faith in Jesus Christ the Son of God that we can obtain righteousness.
So when we are told in the Gospels that Joseph, the father of Jesus Christ, Zechariah and Elizabeth -even John the Baptist, their son-, Joseph of Arimathea , along with Simeon the priest were justified by their submission and obedience to the Old Covenant are we to believe those mentions were all wrong entries? undecided
Re: Righteousness Is Not By Our Works by Bishopkingsley(m): 3:44am On Aug 05, 2021
KaideeGee:
Wednesday
04-08-2021

Peace...

Heavenly Father we are here in accordance with your word that says if we receive insight in your word, we should share it to other brethren. Father we ask that you be ever present with us. I decrease Lord, increase and Glorify yourself in Jesus name. Amen


Therefore by the deeds of the law no flesh will be justified in His sight, for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
Romans 3:20 NKJV

There is no righteousness apart from Christ. No matter how morally upright you are or how law abiding you are, you can never be right in God's eyes, it is only through faith in Jesus Christ the Son of God that we can obtain righteousness.
But let us not do away with the law, for faith does now abolish the law, rather it establishes it. It is through faith that we keep the laws, it is faith that gives redemption from transgressions.

Let us abide in faith, every thing outside of faith is sin.

Shalom

Self Righteousness people won't like this

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Re: Righteousness Is Not By Our Works by KaideeGee(m): 7:54am On Aug 05, 2021
Kobojunkie:
So when we are told in the Gospels that Joseph, the father of Jesus Christ, Zechariah and Elizabeth -even John the Baptist, their son-, Joseph of Arimathea , along with Simeon the priest were justified by their submission and obedience to the Old Covenant are we to believe those mentions were all wrong entries? undecided

Sir, It's There in the scripture, I didn't write it, you can look it up for yourself

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Re: Righteousness Is Not By Our Works by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:23am On Aug 05, 2021
Then what is the difference between faithful servants of God who lived by the laws only and first century Jewish followers of Jesus who believe only in Jesus?
Re: Righteousness Is Not By Our Works by Bishopkingsley(m): 9:34am On Aug 05, 2021
There is nothing like faithful servant
all men who work with God God gave them his Righteousness
Re: Righteousness Is Not By Our Works by Dtruthspeaker: 9:34am On Aug 05, 2021
KaideeGee:
Wednesday
04-08-2021

Peace...

Heavenly Father we are here in accordance with your word that says if we receive insight in your word, we should share it to other brethren. Father we ask that you be ever present with us. I decrease Lord, increase and Glorify yourself in Jesus name. Amen


Therefore by the deeds of the law no flesh will be justified in His sight, for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
Romans 3:20 NKJV

There is no righteousness apart from Christ. No matter how morally upright you are or how law abiding you are, you can never be right in God's eyes, it is only through faith in Jesus Christ the Son of God that we can obtain righteousness.
But let us not do away with the law, for faith does now abolish the law, rather it establishes it. It is through faith that we keep the laws, it is faith that gives redemption from transgressions.

Let us abide in faith, every thing outside of faith is sin.

Shalom

Rightness and Righteousness is our work, WHICH MUST BE DONE.

But it is not Valid for Anyone to Mark themselves.

The Marking of Rightness is Always Done by Another, Exactly as it is not an examination candidate who marks his own answer script but the Examiner.

This is The Law of "You can not be a Judge in your own Cause"
Re: Righteousness Is Not By Our Works by Dtruthspeaker: 9:38am On Aug 05, 2021
Bishopkingsley:


Self Righteousness people won't like this

grin A student who has marked his own script will never be happy when he is told to deliver his script to an external examiner for marking! grin
Re: Righteousness Is Not By Our Works by Bishopkingsley(m): 9:39am On Aug 05, 2021
Paul often says that human beings are righteous by faith (e.g., Rom. 1:17; 3:22, 26; 4:3, 5, 9, 13; 9:30; 10:4;
Gal. 2:16; 3:6, 11; 5:5;
Phil. 3:9).
In such contexts Paul contrasts righteousness by faith with righteousness by works. Ordinarily, people are declared to be righteous in human courts on the basis of their good behavior.

That is, if they did what is good, they are declared to be in the right; but if they did what is evil, they are condemned. Paul, however, maintains that it is not those who work but those who believe who are righteous before God (Rom. 4:4–5).

Indeed, no one can be righteous by works before God, for all have fallen short of what he requires (Rom. 3:23).

Righteousness by faith, then, must refer to the gift of righteousness given to human beings by God. Human beings are not justified on the basis of doing but on the basis of believing. God declares the ungodly to be righteous (Rom. 4:5).

Nor does Paul view faith as a “work” that merits the declaration of righteousness. Faith saves because it looks entirely to what God has done for believers in Christ. It rests on Christ’s death for the forgiveness of sins and his resurrection for the sake of their justification (Rom. 3:21–26; 4:25).

The righteousness given to believers, then, is alien since it is not based on anything they have done but only on God’s work in Christ. This suggests that righteousness as a gift is granted to those who believe.

Actually what God is saying is that once I give you my holy spirit because the Righteousness of God is in the holy spirit

Then you will equally have the ability to carry out my laws my works

You can't do any good thing until God gives you his Righteousness (holy spirit)

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Re: Righteousness Is Not By Our Works by Bishopkingsley(m): 9:43am On Aug 05, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:


grin A student who has marked his own script will never be happy when he is told to deliver his script to an external examiner for marking! grin
Paul often says that human beings are righteous by faith (e.g., Rom. 1:17; 3:22, 26; 4:3, 5, 9, 13; 9:30; 10:4;
Gal. 2:16; 3:6, 11; 5:5;
Phil. 3:9).
In such contexts Paul contrasts righteousness by faith with righteousness by works. Ordinarily, people are declared to be righteous in human courts on the basis of their good behavior.

That is, if they did what is good, they are declared to be in the right; but if they did what is evil, they are condemned. Paul, however, maintains that it is not those who work but those who believe who are righteous before God (Rom. 4:4–5).

Indeed, no one can be righteous by works before God, for all have fallen short of what he requires (Rom. 3:23).

Righteousness by faith, then, must refer to the gift of righteousness given to human beings by God. Human beings are not justified on the basis of doing but on the basis of believing. God declares the ungodly to be righteous (Rom. 4:5).

Nor does Paul view faith as a “work” that merits the declaration of righteousness. Faith saves because it looks entirely to what God has done for believers in Christ. It rests on Christ’s death for the forgiveness of sins and his resurrection for the sake of their justification (Rom. 3:21–26; 4:25).

The righteousness given to believers, then, is alien since it is not based on anything they have done but only on God’s work in Christ. This suggests that righteousness as a gift is granted to those who believe.

Actually what God is saying is that once I give you my holy spirit because the Righteousness of God is in the holy spirit

Then you will equally have the ability to carry out my laws my works

You can't do any good thing until God gives you his Righteousness

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Re: Righteousness Is Not By Our Works by Bishopkingsley(m): 9:44am On Aug 05, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:


grin A student who has marked his own script will never be happy when he is told to deliver his script to an external examiner for marking! grin
God is saying he is the judge the one who marks the exam paper

Jacob I love Esau I hate
God can declare you Righteousness

And devil will be looking at it and his children will be angry
Re: Righteousness Is Not By Our Works by Dtruthspeaker: 9:45am On Aug 05, 2021
KaideeGee:
...Therefore by the deeds of the law no flesh will be justified in His sight, for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
Romans 3:20 NKJV...

I see that you are sitting on the fence on this one but every Anti-Law teachers missed the word "no flesh".

And is man flesh? Or rather is man supposed to be fleshy?

Thus, would it be wrong to say "Therefore by the deeds of The Law in spirit will be justified in His sight"?

Remember in your other thread you had already laid down the answer.
Re: Righteousness Is Not By Our Works by Dtruthspeaker: 9:48am On Aug 05, 2021
Bishopkingsley:
God is saying he is the judge the one who marks the exam paper

Jacob I love Esau I hate
God can declare you Righteousness

And devil will be looking at it and his children will be angry

grin Yep God is The Judge, yet many had gone to Sit on The Judgment Throne, even in their own case.
Re: Righteousness Is Not By Our Works by Bishopkingsley(m): 9:52am On Aug 05, 2021
No human being can make themselves Righteousness

Because God declared the heart of all men is evil continually

You can deceive yourself that you can be Righteousness by your own power at the end you will find out it not working for you because your heart is filled with hate and tribalism and other evil things

Without God giving you his gift of Righteousness

You will crash
Re: Righteousness Is Not By Our Works by Bishopkingsley(m): 9:53am On Aug 05, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:


grin Yep God is The Judge, yet many had gone to Sit on The Judgment Throne, even in their own case.

No man that can approach God without been cleansed
By God

Check your Bible


No human being can make themselves Righteousness

Because God declared the heart of all men is evil continually

You can deceive yourself that you can be Righteousness by your own power at the end you will find out it not working for you because your heart is filled with hate and tribalism and other evil things

Without God giving you his gift of Righteousness

You will crash
Re: Righteousness Is Not By Our Works by GardenOfGod(m): 9:59am On Aug 05, 2021
The problem I always have with many acclaimed followers of Christ is their inability to study the scriptures "indepthly" and "comprehensively".
Paul told Timothy to "rightly" dividing the word of truth... 2Tim. 2:15. Meaning someone can as well "wrongly" divide the word of truth.

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Re: Righteousness Is Not By Our Works by Dtruthspeaker: 10:10am On Aug 05, 2021
Bishopkingsley:

In such contexts Paul contrasts righteousness by faith with righteousness by works.

He does not contrast them he is rather pointing out what people do in a bid to deceive and evade the Judgement of God, exactly as a child who has done an evil thing in the house will start wash plates, sweep, run errands and do his homework, all of which are right and good BUT WILL THAT REMOVE HIS LIABILITY FOR HIS EVIL?

Paul's Answer is that "It shall be Judged"!

And as we say in Law, each individual and distinct case shall be judged on their Merit, which is his Right Works (washing, cleaning, running errands) shall be Judged and rewarded and his evil works shall be judged and rewarded also.

And it is here you appreciate the Words of David and Paul where he said
"Blessed is that man whose transgression is forgiven, whose sin is covered" Psalm 32:1

"Blessed is the man whom The Lord will not impute sin" Romans 4:8
Re: Righteousness Is Not By Our Works by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:13am On Aug 05, 2021
Please OP do you have something to say about this?

MaxInDHouse:
Then what is the difference between faithful servants of God who lived by the laws only and first century Jewish followers of Jesus who believe only in Jesus?
Re: Righteousness Is Not By Our Works by Bishopkingsley(m): 10:16am On Aug 05, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:


He does not contrast them he is rather pointing out what people do in a bid to deceive and evade the Judgement of God, exactly as a child who has done an evil thing in the house will start wash plates, sweep, run errands and do his homework, all of which are right and good BUT WILL THAT REMOVE HIS LIABILITY FOR HIS EVIL?

Paul's Answer is that "It shall be Judged"!

And as we say in Law, each individual and distinct case shall be judged on their Merit, which is his Right Works (washing, cleaning, running errands) shall be Judged and rewarded and his evil works shall be judged and rewarded also.

And it is here you appreciate the Words of David and Paul where he said
"Blessed is that man whose transgression is forgiven, whose sin is covered" Psalm 32:1

"Blessed is the man whom The Lord will not impute sin" Romans 4:8






You won't understand Righteousness of God in Christ Jesus until you receive the holy spirit with the evidence of speaking in tongues

Until then you will fight this truth
Re: Righteousness Is Not By Our Works by Dtruthspeaker: 10:18am On Aug 05, 2021
Bishopkingsley:


No man that can approach God without been cleansed
By God

This was a complete departure and totally unnecessary.

You and I were in agreement that it is wrong for people to judge their own selves, to which you said God is The Judge "God is saying he is the judge..."

Thus, all I was saying that people foolishly and wrong fully play Judge on themselves.

Nothing about approaching God is in my post!
Re: Righteousness Is Not By Our Works by Bishopkingsley(m): 10:20am On Aug 05, 2021
Actually what God is saying is that once I give you my holy spirit because the Righteousness of God is in the holy spirit

Then you will equally have the ability to carry out my laws my works

You can't do any good thing until God gives you his Righteousness
Re: Righteousness Is Not By Our Works by Dtruthspeaker: 10:22am On Aug 05, 2021
Bishopkingsley:


You won't understand Righteousness of God in Christ Jesus until you receive the holy spirit with the evidence of speaking in tongues

Until then you will fight this truth

Truth is my friend therefore, I am standing on and with it, not fighting it.

Which is why after my answer, you have no reasonable and valid way to counter and that is very fine with me.
Re: Righteousness Is Not By Our Works by Bishopkingsley(m): 10:25am On Aug 05, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:


Truth is my friend therefore, I am standing on and with it, not fighting it.

Which is why after my answer, you have no reasonable and valid way to counter and that is very fine with me.

Actually what God is saying is that once I give you my holy spirit because the Righteousness of God is in the holy spirit

Then you will equally have the ability to carry out my laws my works

You can't do any good thing until God gives you his Righteousness (holy spirit)

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Re: Righteousness Is Not By Our Works by Bishopkingsley(m): 10:26am On Aug 05, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:


Truth is my friend therefore, I am standing on and with it, not fighting it.

Which is why after my answer, you have no reasonable and valid way to counter and that is very fine with me.

I can't counter you because it something that God reveals only to those whom he selects

If you don't have the seal of God you can never understand this things

We know it that why when we show you in the Bible you still can't understand it
Re: Righteousness Is Not By Our Works by GardenOfGod(m): 10:31am On Aug 05, 2021
Those preaching no righteousness is required of a Christian are simply "crucifying" Christ over and over and over again by continuing in their sin. Heb. 6:4-6.
They are also asking for "grace to be abound" but Paul said "God forbid" Rom. 6:2.
Understand the background of the message and the audience of the message.. Very, very important before you draw your conclusions.
It is quite better to be contextual when reading the messages from the scriptures... Let's look at the message of Hebrews. 6:4-6 and Romans. 6:2

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Re: Righteousness Is Not By Our Works by GardenOfGod(m): 10:34am On Aug 05, 2021
Note: Am not here for argument. Just to share my own revelation of the word.

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Re: Righteousness Is Not By Our Works by GardenOfGod(m): 11:25am On Aug 05, 2021
Hebrews 6:4-6
New International Version
4 It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit,
5 who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age
6 and who have fallen away, to be brought back to repentance. To their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace

Note:
Who are the ones that have:
1. Been "enlightened"
2. "Tasted the heavenly gift"
3. shared in "the Holy Spirit"

And who are those who "repented" and from what did they repent?

The answer is simply CHRISTIANS and thy repented of their SINS!

So if they have already repented of their sins, why should they repent again? Because they feel their works of keeping themselves from sin has been taken away by the righteousness of Christ, thereby continuing to commit sin.

Christ died for your sins after you might have received the knowledge of God, therefore, each time you commit sin again you are simply crucifying Christ again.

Paul asked in Romans 6:1-2 "shall we (Christians) continue in sin that grace may abound? He responded, NO!"

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Re: Righteousness Is Not By Our Works by GardenOfGod(m): 11:50am On Aug 05, 2021
Bishopkingsley:
Paul often says that human beings are righteous by faith (e.g., Rom. 1:17; 3:22, 26; 4:3, 5, 9, 13; 9:30; 10:4;
Gal. 2:16; 3:6, 11; 5:5;
Phil. 3:9).
In such contexts Paul contrasts righteousness by faith with righteousness by works. Ordinarily, people are declared to be righteous in human courts on the basis of their good behavior.

That is, if they did what is good, they are declared to be in the right; but if they did what is evil, they are condemned. Paul, however, maintains that it is not those who work but those who believe who are righteous before God (Rom. 4:4–5).

Indeed, no one can be righteous by works before God, for all have fallen short of what he requires (Rom. 3:23).

Righteousness by faith, then, must refer to the gift of righteousness given to human beings by God. Human beings are not justified on the basis of doing but on the basis of believing. God declares the ungodly to be righteous (Rom. 4:5).

Nor does Paul view faith as a “work” that merits the declaration of righteousness. Faith saves because it looks entirely to what God has done for believers in Christ. It rests on Christ’s death for the forgiveness of sins and his resurrection for the sake of their justification (Rom. 3:21–26; 4:25).

The righteousness given to believers, then, is alien since it is not based on anything they have done but only on God’s work in Christ. This suggests that righteousness as a gift is granted to those who believe.

Actually what God is saying is that once I give you my holy spirit because the Righteousness of God is in the holy spirit

Then you will equally have the ability to carry out my laws my works

You can't do any good thing until God gives you his Righteousness

In summary.... I have checked to see if there is any portion that says since our righteousness is of no effect, we should continue in sin, but I have not seen.
Re: Righteousness Is Not By Our Works by Dtruthspeaker: 12:07pm On Aug 05, 2021
Bishopkingsley:


I can't counter you because it something that God reveals only to those whom he selects...

It is impossible to counter The Truth for The Lord Up Holdeth it by His Power and it is A Mountain that can never be moved when attacked

Which is why my signature States The Law "There is No Valid Argument Against The Truth" for when it is not True, it will always have a valid and reasonable counter that would make it FALL.

And when you do not have a counter, you have reached the Mountain of Truth!
Re: Righteousness Is Not By Our Works by Bishopkingsley(m): 12:09pm On Aug 05, 2021
GardenOfGod:


In summary.... I have checked to see if there is any portion that says since our righteousness is of no effect, we should continue in sin, but I have not seen.

Did you see any place I said any one should continue in sin

Did you see any sin talk in the verse I state

You have to treat one part without mixing it up

What God is saying is that
No human beings can say they are Righteousness in the presence of God no matter the good works they do

God is saying the heart is sinful on it own even if the person is doing good works outwardly and you are fighting what God says

Continue to believe that doing Righteous works
Without having God Righteousness or without having the holy spirit, that things will work for you at the end
Re: Righteousness Is Not By Our Works by Dtruthspeaker: 12:09pm On Aug 05, 2021
GardenOfGod:


In summary.... I have checked to see if there is any portion that says since our righteousness is of no effect, we should continue in sin, but I have not seen.

And Neither is there any portion that says "Do Not Do Righteousness"!
Re: Righteousness Is Not By Our Works by GardenOfGod(m): 12:10pm On Aug 05, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:


And Neither is there any portion that says "Do Not Do Righteousness"!
Exactly!

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