Spy360:

I think common sense is responsible here. The question of when and when not to. That one is entirely up to the player.

not all keeper has that 'common sense' you speak of remember, peter chech doing emery days?

Some keepers are not just comfortable with that style of play, it doesn't mean that they have a low IQ or something

kodded:


A good caoch should play to the player strengths and not their weakness, it was so obvious that passing out from the back was one of Leno weakness

Whether Arteta is a good coach or not is another discussion entirely .

My point is u can’t say Leno is a poor keeper because he’s following his coach’s instruction to be passing to unreliable players like Mustafi, Kolasinac, Holding , Luiz and co

iamoyindamola:

Martinez also plays from back, my point is leno over do it especially when his teammates are close down he will still pass

At arsenal Martinez played few games and I remember vs Man city he was “budeying” the ball with no time for play from the back .

He played a full season at Villa last season and Villa wasn’t known for their play from back all season.

No doubt Martinez is having a time of his life presently , but nothing suggests he was the better keeper while at Arsenal . So blaming the club for selling one of their two good keepers when it’s obvious they can’t keep both , I don’t agree with it

BlueRayDick:


At arsenal Martinez played few games and I remember vs Man city he was “budeying” the ball with no time for play from the back .

He played a full season at Villa last season and Villa wasn’t known for their play from back all season.

No doubt Martinez is having a time of his life presently , but nothing suggests he was the better keeper while at Arsenal . So blaming the club for selling one of their two good keepers when it’s obvious they can’t keep both , I don’t agree with it

Lmao you picked only against city
Against the city sef, our first goal was play from back which martinez comfortably initiated, not only is he comfortable on the ball than leno he also give his teammate this special kind of courage.
No problem sha, we can't turn back the hands of time

Spy360:
*Here is why selling Willock is a bad idea.*

This is our present squad which is bloated.

Gk-
Leno, Okonkwo (2)

Def-
Bellerin, Chambers, Cedric, Tierney, Taveres, Kolasinac, Holding, White, Gabriel, Mari (10)

Mid-
Xhaka, Partey, Lokonga, Elneny, AMN, Torriera, Willock, Azeez, ESR (9)

Att-
Aubameyang, Lacazette, Nketiah, Balogun, Saka, Pepe, Martinelli, Nelson (

A balance squad should have 3goalies, 8defenders, 7midfielders and 7attackers.

To make our squad balance we need a goalie and an AM. We also need to offload two defenders (a RB and a LB), three midfielders (all CMs), and an attacker.

But we must be keeping our younger players as squad players to improve their value so that it's the older ones that should be leaving.

They are, Bellerin or Cedric, Kolasinac, Elneny, Torriera, and AMN. Nelson who is the lowest in pecking order of attackers could be sent on loan after a contract extension otherwise he should be sold.

We have no reason to sell Willock as there are many uselessness that could be offloaded. This is not a time to make profit but to balance the team. This balance will go a long way in preparing the squad for Europe next season (if we qualify and we should) and also improve the value of our younger players before finally offloading those that do not meet the objective whenever they turn 24 (eg AMN)

All what you said would have been legit if only we can easily move on the older players. But then reversal is the case here and we need money to fund our purchase.
Now that we have the opportunity to sell Willock for good amount, let's do it. After all, we hope some guys from the academy can take over Willock spot 1-2 yrs to come (like Omari Hutchinson).
Now it's just necessity making us selling Willock and getting that appropriate Am we want, while Willock goes and see more first team shirt at Newcastle. Everyone goes home happy.

It's so sad that our players are now one of the least sought after players.. Can't believe clubs can't come for elneny, Nelson, Bellerin, kolasinac, xhaka and so on..
Even if na small clubs sef.

Mehn, this is so so bad mehn!!

BlueRayDick:


Whether Arteta is a good coach or not is another discussion entirely .

My point is u can’t say Leno is a poor keeper because he’s following his coach’s instruction to be passing to unreliable players like Mustafi, Kolasinac, Holding , Luiz and co

we are saying the same thing bro, leno is actually not comfortable playing out from the back especially when he has the likes of mustafi and kolasinca infront of him but he has no choice because that is what the manager want

kodded:
we are saying the same thing bro, leno is actually not comfortable playing out from the back especially when he has the likes of mustafi and kolasinca infront of him but he has no choice because that is what the manager want

Using your logic why can't Leno know when to pass to his defenders according to their strength? His latest error was the friendly against Watford where he opted to pass to Elneny (of all people) despite being surrounded by 3 Watford players inside the box.

Talent is one thing, IQ is another.

Jodera:
All what you said would have been legit if only we can easily move on the older players. But then reversal is the case here and we need money to fund our purchase.
Now that we have the opportunity to sell Willock for good amount, let's do it. After all, we hope some guys from the academy can take over Willock spot 1-2 yrs to come (like Omari Hutchinson).
Now it's just necessity making us selling Willock and getting that appropriate Am we want, while Willock goes and see more first team shirt at Newcastle. Everyone goes home happy.

We can move the older players if we refuse to make a profit off them.

Jodera:
It's so sad that our players are now one of the least sought after players.. Can't believe clubs can't come for elneny, Nelson, Bellerin, kolasinac, xhaka and so on..
Even if na small clubs sef.

Mehn, this is so so bad mehn!!

Na by force to buy liabilties
Gone are those days fans will carry placards begging our players to sign extension
Now na to use juju pursue them comot emirates

Spy360:

We can move the older players if we refuse to make a profit off them.

We dropped players up for sales. Aside Xhaka who had a strong interest from Roma, no other player had interest from other clubs sef. Bellerin had interest from inter, but then they haven't tabled any offer.
The rest, clubs just looked away..
At least, clubs go show interest, then na we go think weda we wan sell for profit or not.
But no club showed strong interest... Mehn!!

iamoyindamola:
Na by force to buy liabilties
Gone are those days fans will carry placards begging our players to sign extension
Now na to use juju pursue them comot emirates

Lol.. Go beg Toure agent make him link you to that shamman abeg, so that we go drive all these liabilities

But on a more serious note, it shows how low we've sunk. At least, even if top clubs no go buy, but clubs like Watford, Brighton, Leeds and so forth suppose dey look all these players na.
Abi na so we don die reach?

Jodera:
Lol.. Go beg Toure agent make him link you to that shamman abeg, so that we go drive all these liabilities

But on a more serious note, it shows how low we've sunk. At least, even if top clubs no go buy, but clubs like Watford, Brighton, Leeds and so forth suppose dey look all these players na.
Abi na so we don die reach?

Shebi Newcastle wan buy Willock now and spy360 say make we no sell ..... He say make we sell players wey people no dey interested in

BlueRayDick:




Shebi Newcastle wan buy Willock now and spy360 say make we no sell ..... He say make we sell players wey people no dey interested in

Lol... Reason why we need to sell Willock.

But I get spy point, which was what even prompted the bolded..
Why would clubs not be interested in our players.
Someone like crystal palace suppose see first team give elneny
Someone like Southampton suppose see first team give Bellerin
Xhaka sef, team dey wey him go see first team too plenty wella.
Amn from his showing in arsenal suppose see team even if na Newcastle.
Even kolasinac too set(auction am to Holland club)

Abi, the club dey deceive us say dem drop dem for exit list?

Boy got such a welcome.....

Jodera:
Lol... Reason why we need to sell Willock.

But I get spy point, which was what even prompted the bolded..
Why would clubs not be interested in our players.
Someone like crystal palace suppose see first team give elneny
Someone like Southampton suppose see first team give Bellerin
Xhaka sef, team dey wey him go see first team too plenty wella.
Amn from his showing in arsenal suppose see team even if na Newcastle.
Even kolasinac too set(auction am to Holland club)

Abi, the club dey deceive us say dem drop dem for exit list?

The bitter truth is those teams you listed have better or players performing better than the Arsenal players.
I once read a Leicester fan saying " He doesn't want Auba in his team and very comfortable with Vardy.

The thing is when you play for Arsenal or a big club, you get more attention/praise at the little stiffs you do, but only those who can look deep will see the difference.

Fkhalifa:

The bitter truth is those teams you listed have better or players performing better than the Arsenal players.
I once read a Leicester fan saying " He doesn't want Auba in his team and very comfortable with Vardy.

The thing is when you play for Arsenal or a big club, you get more attention/praise at the little stiffs you do, but only those who can look deep will see the difference.

Hmmm... I know some of our players might not get into Leicester squad, but no way in hell will Riedeweld bench Elneny in that DM position or kyle walker Peters bench Bellerin. Thinking about it, I think it's the high wage that's one of the mitigating factors

Jodera:
Hmmm... I know some of our players might not get into Leicester squad, but no way in hell will Riedeweld bench Elneny in that DM position or kyle walker Peters bench Bellerin. Thinking about it, I think it's the high wage that's one of the mitigating factors

U go read some things and e go just bitter for ur ear.

Somebody is saying he will prefer Auba to to Vardy forgetting that Auba met Vardy in the league and yet Auba clinched Epl golden boot before him. In fact Auba was going to clinch the second one the next season before Vardy edged him with just a goal.

I hate it when people try to throw the baby away with the bath water . Auba may not be at his best now but it doesn’t mean the good he’s done in the past doesn’t matter .

BlueRayDick:


U go read some things and e go just bitter for ur ear.

Somebody is saying he will prefer Auba to to Vardy forgetting that Auba met Vardy in the league and yet Auba clinched Epl golden boot before him. In fact Auba was going to clinch the second one the next season before Vardy edged him with just a goal.

I hate it when people try to throw the baby away with the bath water . Auba may not be at his best now but it doesn’t mean the good he’s done in the past doesn’t matter .

Lol... Auba na correct player. He just came to arsenal at arsenal's wrong time where creativity is reduced drastically. I think Fk.halifa said that with respect to the kind of striker vardy is compared to Auba(that ginger and work rate stuff Vardy gives over Auba)

Also I think some of we fans don dey too familiar with our players failings that we think other players even from other teams are better than ours. Even tho I know our level have dropped, no way will I believe some average/midtable team players are better than some of our players individually

People just like to dey troll una Roland17, eetin be this one again

Fkhalifa:

The bitter truth is those teams you listed have better or players performing better than the Arsenal players.
I once read a Leicester fan saying " He doesn't want Auba in his team and very comfortable with Vardy.

The thing is when you play for Arsenal or a big club, you get more attention/praise at the little stiffs you do, but only those who can look deep will see the difference.

So Crystal Palace and Southampton have better players than Arsenal?

Nothing way Obi no go see for community primary school.

Congratulations to martinelli for an Olympic gold.
Tho didn't feature today.

Still Martinelli is an Olympian Winner

Jodera:
Lol... Auba na correct player. He just came to arsenal at arsenal's wrong time where creativity is reduced drastically. I think Fk.halifa said that with respect to the kind of striker vardy is compared to Auba(that ginger and work rate stuff Vardy gives over Auba)

Also I think some of we fans don dey too familiar with our players failings that we think other players even from other teams are better than ours. Even tho I know our level have dropped, no way will I believe some average/midtable team players are better than some of our players individually

Well I said what I read... A Leicester fan said he'll prefer Vardy ahead of Auba in his team and that was even in 2019.

That doesn't mean he doesn't rate Auba, I personally will also prefer prime Vardy basically because of his agility,power, pace and never say die attitude over a don't do anything apart from scoring striker.

The above quality earned him the incredible BpL, Fa Cup and European football despite his age and from an average rated side.

Fenerbache are making inquiry about the availability of kola, ozil speak good about him
Here we go somebody

Spy360:

So Crystal Palace and Southampton have better players than Arsenal?

Nothing way Obi no go see for community primary school.

That's not wha I mean...

Crystal palace will prefer Van ahnolt ahead of Kolasinac
AWB was/has been better than Bellerin before he joined Utd.
Zaha is better than all Arsenal wingers
Townsend is at par or better.......
,
Ward prowse, Vestergard, Bertrand, Redmond are better than all the deadwoods you want to offload.

The hard truth is atm apart from Tierney, Gabriel,Partey, Saka and Pepe, everyorther players are either at par or a bit better than the midtable teams in England.

Fkhalifa:


Well I said what I read... A Leicester fan said he'll prefer Vardy ahead of Auba in his team and that was even in 2019.

That doesn't mean he doesn't rate Auba, I personally will also prefer prime Vardy basically because of his agility,power, pace and never say die attitude over a don't do anything apart from scoring striker.

The above quality earned him the incredible BpL, Fa Cup and European football despite his age and from an average rated side.

The bolded was same thing I said in my post that I know you'd prefer vardy to Auba with the reasons you gave.

Anyways, I know if Auba had been in arsenal earlier, we might be champions esp that 2015/2016 season which Leicester won. Cos what we needed was ideally a striker like Auba to finish of the plethora of chances created by ozil and cazorla then.

Fkhalifa:

That's not wha I mean...

Crystal palace will prefer Van ahnolt ahead of Kolasinac
AWB was/has been better than Bellerin before he joined Utd.
Zaha is better than all Arsenal wingers
Townsend is at par or better.......
,
Ward prowse, Vestergard, Bertrand, Redmond are better than all the deadwoods you want to offload.

The hard truth is atm apart from Tierney, Gabriel,Partey, Saka and Pepe, everyorther players are either at par or a bit better than the midtable teams in England.

there's a reason I said elneny for crystal palace, cos I know elneny is better than their DM. No DM at crystal palace is better than him individually
Ward prowse can't bench Xhaka facts!!(another player on the transfer list)
Actually, vestegaard is a defender and we didn't drop any transfer exit for defender. That leaves us with only Redmond, which I accept is better than the deadwood. So that's one out of a possible 4.

Awb is no longer at crystal again, so that leaves kyle walker Peters which bellerin is certainly better than.

Truth is, most of this our deadwoods can see playing opportunities in team like Southampton and crystal palace. Most of their squad aren't marginally better than our deadwoods.

Jodera:
The bolded was same thing I said in my post that I know you'd prefer vardy to Auba with the reasons you gave.

Anyways, I know if Auba had been in arsenal earlier, we might be champions esp that 2015/2016 season which Leicester won. Cos what we needed was ideally a striker like Auba to finish of the plethora of chances created by ozil and cazorla then.

Exactly, Auba could have benefited more, his style will suit the Sanchez,csrzola and Ozil days.

iamoyindamola:
Fenerbache are making inquiry about the availability of kola, ozil speak good about him
Here we go somebody

Let thy will be done and let fernerbache drop serious bid abeg

Jodera:
there's a reason I said elneny for crystal palace, cos I know elneny is better than their DM. No DM at crystal palace is better than him individually
Ward prowse can't bench Xhaka facts!!(another player on the transfer list)
Actually, vestegaard is a defender and we didn't drop any transfer exit for defender. That leaves us with only Redmond, which I accept is better than the deadwood. So that's one out of a possible 4.

Awb is no longer at crystal again, so that leaves kyle walker Peters which bellerin is certainly better than.

Truth is, most of this our deadwoods can see playing opportunities in team like Southampton and crystal palace. Most of their squad aren't marginally better than our deadwoods.

Elneny is not better than Luka Milivojević or James McCarthy (Injury has dealt with the lad)...

I'll take KWP over the present Bellerin...

Ward Prowse is better than Xhaka in everything except collecting needless cards.

Fkhalifa:

The bitter truth is those teams you listed have better or players performing better than the Arsenal players.
I once read a Leicester fan saying " He doesn't want Auba in his team and very comfortable with Vardy.

The thing is when you play for Arsenal or a big club, you get more attention/praise at the little stiffs you do, but only those who can look deep will see the difference.

Auba na player,?

ndidibabe:
Auba na player,?

No, a popstar.