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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera2: 6:02pm On Aug 10, 2021
Also I remember 2012/13 wen Ferguson wanted to wrestle the league back from man city. The big signing he called upon was Van persie. And van persie wonderfully gave him the league (alongside other attack). He didn't call on a good defender to shore up his defence more, he called on attack to bang in more goals. grin

Even pep that is buying defenders anyhow recently, check his rebuilding stage at man city. Na so so attack at first (Bernardo Silva, sterling, sane Jesus etc). It was wen these attack was added to the already strong attack man city had before facing fully defence like Walker, laporte, and so on.

There's a reason we came 8th back to back and it's no coincidence that our attack (both midfield and forward) is poor

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera2: 6:05pm On Aug 10, 2021
BlueRayDick:
Tammy Abraham agrees to join Roma.../ Now that's some sigh of relief. I had far the club would've gone for him at the die minutes claiming no other epl proven striker was available.
At least, my hope came to pass. This stupid club is just waiting for dying minute to buy Abraham for us.
God pass dem
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera2: 6:07pm On Aug 10, 2021
kodded:
day after day that ben white deal keep making arsenal look so stupïd and naive

Now they are rumors flying in Twitter that holding might join Newcastle because we are desperately looking for money
I thought dey said we've 200m kitty?
Abi the 200m don finish? grin

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by patrickmuf(m): 6:08pm On Aug 10, 2021
Jodera2:
Lol... Patrickmuf. Why sp*m bo**t dey b*n me from quoting you and replying you na grin
Abi dem tink say we get problem wey I no know? grin
Since Sunday till today b2b concerning the last quote you quoted me (even this evening now, anoda one)

Na wa oo.
Hehehe I no know o!

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera2: 6:13pm On Aug 10, 2021
kodded:
I have no problem bringing in a defender but after seeing how useless we were in the attcking third last season, I believe the main priority should have been that we sign up at least 2 creative personel to ease the burden from saka and ESR, but sadly the manager prefers to massage his ego than doing what is right.
Lol... I swear.
That's the first thing that's suppose to be on our club's mind, but na defender dem dey think

Chelsea knew that dey needed a striker going into this season. Everyone knew that and they unsurprisingly splashed the cash for a proven striker

Arsenal knew that we needed a good Am and attack and everyone knew that. But the first thing we surprisingly splash our cash on is on another defender. Check stat, we conceded one of the least goals in the league and we provide at most 1 or 2 chances per game.(one of the least too)
What would any logical club do??...




But trust arsenal na... Seems they're not logical embarassed
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 6:20pm On Aug 10, 2021
ndidibabe:
Na real faithful BF o... Arsenal has sold Guendozi for 11m,in the same breath they’ve paid 6-7m more for lokonga who Is not more talented than Guendozi. That's how we are seeing Arsenal's TW..
Lokonga is better na. Common.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera2: 6:40pm On Aug 10, 2021
Fkhalifa:
How long did it take City and Chelsea to sign Lukaku and Grealish from the moment they decided to buy them? A few days at most.. when you saw the reports in the media, 2 days later the deals were done..

When they see a player they want, they sign him. Arsenal keep on negotiations forever. They don’t even have a real target.. They just wait for who is available. Even after finishing 8th, twice in a row.

And they say the money isn’t a problem.. did Chelsea move on Abraham before signing Lukaku? No.. they don’t wait for that nonsense. Tuchel said today that he had 43 first team players. They don’t care at all. I hate all those excuses all the time at Arsenal..

# Copied.
The bolded is true.
We're just doing try your luck.
Try Madison, if dey reject first offer, we won't try harder,
Instead we'll try odegaard.

And we'll go on and on..
Just sad
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by ndidibabe(f): 6:52pm On Aug 10, 2021
Spy360:

Lokonga is better na. Common.
Okay now. I hope I won't have to quote you.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 7:26pm On Aug 10, 2021
Jodera2:
I never really wanted to join this discussion, but that bolded just made me change my mind.

We all agree that attack wins you games but defence win you league. While we all agree on that quote but I think it's the interpretation that you're not getting right.
Firstly, for you to win the league, you have to WIN GAMES FIRST.
We know that a team can win games yet can't win the league but no one can win the league without winning games. So in essence, what the breaking down of that quote is that you should settle your attack (which will win you games and take you to the top) before doing the last process which is strengthening your defence to win the league (that extra push required to win the league). While you're taking the quote in isolation, but in essence, that quotes are together.

Examples...
When klopp wanted to rebuild his team, he had to buy mane first(his big signing to bolster his attack). His next big signing was wijnaldum(another attack/midfield). Still he didn't sign any big signing defence.
After wijnaldum his next big signing is Salah.

Now look at the trajectory. Mane took them from perennial 8/9th to 4th. While mane, salah took them from 4th to 2nd. Now this was the height attack will bring you too. Tho they concede goals, but Attack more than make up for the wins to ensure top4.
Now that extra push for top 4 to win the league was what prompted the defence, and there goes Van dijk. He (along with attack) push dem from 4th to 2nd(a touching distance to first) and a Cl final. Since the puzzle wasn't complete, a good keeper was needed, and there comes Allison. Trajectory complete. A league and a cl league to boot.

You might say, van dijk went to injury last season to prove your point why they struggled to get 3rd. But the good thing is that dey got 3rd with their attack. Now imagine a Liverpool without mane, salah, firnino and jota, but van dijk, Arnold, matip and Robertson. Even 5th dem no go see(na just 8-10th).

That's what is exactly playing at in arsenal

I know say e long, but I just need to explain
I like you because you don't just talk but analyse things. I get your point and it makes a lot of sense especially that attack alone could take Liverpool to 3rd but defense wouldn't take them that far. Which I accept.

But that's not my point.

Also it's not my point that defense is more important than attack. No.

Also it's not my point that a team should ignore attack and build their defense. No.

My point is that, you need a good attack to win games, but it doesn't guarantee you won't lose, while a good defense ensures you don't lose games. (It's not losing that brings the title). It's like half full Vs half empty. The former ensures short term success (winning games) but it's the latter than ensures long term success (winning the league).

Alternatively, look at it this way;

A team has both a good attack and a good defense.

The attack ensures that they achieve their short term goal- win games, while the defense ensures that they achieve their long term goal- win the league.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 8:08pm On Aug 10, 2021
ndidibabe:
Okay now. I hope I won't have to quote you.
Do we keep Lacazette or go for Abraham?
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 8:14pm On Aug 10, 2021
Jodera2:
I never really wanted to join this discussion, but that bolded just made me change my mind.

We all agree that attack wins you games but defence win you league. While we all agree on that quote but I think it's the interpretation that you're not getting right.
Firstly, for you to win the league, you have to WIN GAMES FIRST.
We know that a team can win games yet can't win the league but no one can win the league without winning games. So in essence, what the breaking down of that quote is that you should settle your attack (which will win you games and take you to the top) before doing the last process which is strengthening your defence to win the league (that extra push required to win the league). While you're taking the quote in isolation, but in essence, that quotes are together.

Examples...
When klopp wanted to rebuild his team, he had to buy mane first(his big signing to bolster his attack). His next big signing was wijnaldum(another attack/midfield). Still he didn't sign any big signing defence.
After wijnaldum his next big signing is Salah.

Now look at the trajectory. Mane took them from perennial 8/9th to 4th. While mane, salah took them from 4th to 2nd. Now this was the height attack will bring you too. Tho they concede goals, but Attack more than make up for the wins to ensure top4.
Now that extra push for top 4 to win the league was what prompted the defence, and there goes Van dijk. He (along with attack) push dem from 4th to 2nd(a touching distance to first) and a Cl final. Since the puzzle wasn't complete, a good keeper was needed, and there comes Allison. Trajectory complete. A league and a cl league to boot.

You might say, van dijk went to injury last season to prove your point why they struggled to get 3rd. But the good thing is that dey got 3rd with their attack. Now imagine a Liverpool without mane, salah, firnino and jota, but van dijk, Arnold, matip and Robertson. Even 5th dem no go see(na just 8-10th).

That's what is exactly playing at in arsenal

I know say e long, but I just need to explain
100% on point.
My point that year till date..
In fact that's the reason I fell in love with Liverpool..
I wanted Arsenal to follow that model by bringing in a good LW,AM and an hardworking CF who could also score goals like Jota. But they hid the truth by calling them Loserpool
I wanted Jota,Zaha,Carrasco,Inaki Williams even Anthony Knockert.
Baba in fact you finish the analysis on why attack can push us up.

Imagine an attack of Podence,Madison,Martinelli,
Pepe,Saka and ESR. With Auba/Laca fighting for CF.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by ndidibabe(f): 9:04pm On Aug 10, 2021
Spy360:

Do we keep Lacazette or go for Abraham?
Lacsazette 100 percent..

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera2: 9:13pm On Aug 10, 2021
Spy360:

I like you because you don't just talk but analyse things. I get your point and it makes a lot of sense especially that attack alone could take Liverpool to 3rd but defense wouldn't take them that far. Which I accept.

But that's not my point.

Also it's not my point that defense is more important than attack. No.

Also it's not my point that a team should ignore attack and build their defense. No.

My point is that, you need a good attack to win games, but it doesn't guarantee you won't lose, while a good defense ensures you don't lose games. (It's not losing that brings the title). It's like half full Vs half empty. The former ensures short term success (winning games) but it's the latter than ensures long term success (winning the league).

Alternatively, look at it this way;

A team has both a good attack and a good defense.

The attack ensures that they achieve their short term goal- win games, while the defense ensures that they achieve their long term goal- win the league.
Thanks for the compliments, I appreciate
Now what really made me write all those stuff was because you said "for any team rebuilding, you need to rebuild your defence first". I just wade in to show that it's the other way round which is attack first.

But I'm really glad we've all finally come to and understanding cos all what you said here is all what I and some others (like Fkhal.ifa, Akinba.hm, Oyinda.mola and others).
Thank goodness we've finally come to a very good understanding and all what you said up here is really understood.

Our hope is make Arteta just do wetin dey right for diz Tw if not this season will surely be bloody than last
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Akinbahm(m): 9:16pm On Aug 10, 2021
Spy360:

I like you because you don't just talk but analyse things. I get your point and it makes a lot of sense especially that attack alone could take Liverpool to 3rd but defense wouldn't take them that far. Which I accept.

But that's not my point.

Also it's not my point that defense is more important than attack. No.

Also it's not my point that a team should ignore attack and build their defense. No.

My point is that, you need a good attack to win games, but it doesn't guarantee you won't lose, while a good defense ensures you don't lose games. (It's not losing that brings the title). It's like half full Vs half empty. The former ensures short term success (winning games) but it's the latter than ensures long term success (winning the league).

Alternatively, look at it this way;

A team has both a good attack and a good defense.

The attack ensures that they achieve their short term goal- win games, while the defense ensures that they achieve their long term goal- win the league.

Mr spy spy spy cool cool cool

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera2: 9:22pm On Aug 10, 2021
Fkhalifa:

100% on point.
My point that year till date..
In fact that's the reason I fell in love with Liverpool..
I wanted Arsenal to follow that model by bringing in a good LW,AM and an hardworking CF who could also score goals like Jota. But they hid the truth by calling them Loserpool
I wanted Jota,Zaha,Carrasco,Inaki Williams even Anthony Knockert.
Baba in fact you finish the analysis on why attack can push us up.

Imagine an attack of Podence,Madison,Martinelli,
Pepe,Saka and ESR. With Auba/Laca fighting for CF
.
I tell you...
I remember arguing in man u thread then how klopp was building a formidable team and showing massive progress but people were looking at the Carling cup final, Uel and UCL final losses to call them loserpool. Now, they're one of the forces to be reckoned with

As for the bolded, if arsenal have such players eh, even if we carry holding and chambers as our 5&6, while bellerin and Tierney is manning our fullback positions, I go just know say top 4 sure me.

You can imagine how just two 2 quality players just gave us hope for top 4. But now arsenal have signed 3 players, yet we still dey jittery how this season go be grin

Reason why that 50m dey vex me(not necessarily Ben White himself)
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 9:47pm On Aug 10, 2021
Jodera2:
I tell you...
I remember arguing in man u thread then how klopp was building a formidable team and showing massive progress but people were looking at the Carling cup final, Uel and UCL final losses to call them loserpool. Now, they're one of the forces to be reckoned with

As for the bolded, if arsenal have such players eh, even if we carry holding and chambers as our 5&6, while bellerin and Tierney is manning our fullback positions, I go just know say top 4 sure me.

You can imagine how just two 2 quality players just gave us hope for top 4. But now arsenal have signed 3 players, yet we still dey jittery how this season go be grin

Reason why that 50m dey vex me(not necessarily Ben White himself)
The moment I saw Arsenal not addressing the
LW......( Auba is a dirty at the wings, Saka for me isn't ready yet to man down that wing for a whole year) AM...(ESR isn't ready yet also to shoulder that responsibility for a whole year)
CM...Xhaka too average going forward.

I knew it will end it tears again this year, £50M on a defender, honestly, I'll rather call Dino Melayeponous, and Saliba back than spend anything on defense.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera2: 9:57pm On Aug 10, 2021
Fkhalifa:

The moment I saw Arsenal not addressing the
LW......( Auba is a dirty at the wings, Saka for me isn't ready yet to man down that wing for a whole year) AM...(ESR isn't ready yet also to shoulder that responsibility for a whole year)
CM...Xhaka too average going forward.

I knew it will end it tears again this year, £50M on a defender, honestly, I'll rather call Dino Melayeponous, and Saliba back than spend anything on defense.
Bwahahaha... Which one be Dino melayenous again? grin
Na greek version of Melaye?? grin

What you said is true. While maybe I might agree for saka to even be rotating with Pepe at least. But ESR isn't ready yet to Mann that Am for a whole season. How dey want to kill to kids with adult's responsibility is beyond me.

Auba at the wings again na another wahala.

We still don't have goal scoring midfielder(s) yet, weak wings and weak Cf(in lacazette). I wonder were the goals will come from for us.

To me, we fit manage carry-along xhaka for midfield, but you see scoring and creative Am and at least one scoring and creative winger (either left or right), it's what is really needed at least for now
We can then build from there
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by kodded(m): 11:08pm On Aug 10, 2021
Jodera2:
I thought dey said we've 200m kitty?
Abi the 200m don finish? grin
all that talk na format to justify that ben white deal
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by kodded(m): 11:24pm On Aug 10, 2021
Fkhalifa:

The moment I saw Arsenal not addressing the
LW......( Auba is a dirty at the wings, Saka for me isn't ready yet to man down that wing for a whole year) AM...(ESR isn't ready yet also to shoulder that responsibility for a whole year)
CM...Xhaka too average going forward.

I knew it will end it tears again this year, £50M on a defender, honestly, I'll rather call Dino Melayeponous, and Saliba back than spend anything on defense.
if arteta can give xhaka a second chance at CM, tell me why will he not give willian another second chance at LW

The only attacking position I see us strengthening is AM and so far so good it will be that odeegard boy who couldn't save us against villarel
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 1:29am On Aug 11, 2021
Jodera2:
Thanks for the compliments, I appreciate
Now what really made me write all those stuff was because you said "for any team rebuilding, you need to rebuild your defence first". I just wade in to show that it's the other way round which is attack first.

But I'm really glad we've all finally come to and understanding cos all what you said here is all what I and some others (like Fkhal.ifa, Akinba.hm, Oyinda.mola and others).
Thank goodness we've finally come to a very good understanding and all what you said up here is really understood.

Our hope is make Arteta just do wetin dey right for diz Tw if not this season will surely be bloody than last
Assuming it is a club in disarray trying to rebuild or a low level club trying to climb up, I think it better to start with rebuilding defense. That doesn't mean one should neglect attack, but more attention should be given first to defense then attack. In fact many teams adopt this approach.

Defenders are cheaper and ensure a level of stability when they blend as defense is more team partnership than individual brilliance as opposed to attack. Once that is achieved, focus shifts to adding attackers.

A low team wants to survive first, so on a long term basis, it's the defense that ensures that.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 5:09am On Aug 11, 2021
@Jodera2

I see u to be more reasonable and reading to understand before replying a post without much emotions attached to it.

The season Arsenal bought Gabriel, do u honestly think what arsenal needed that season was to bring in an attack considering how Mustafi, Kolasinac, Papasthapopulous and the rest of the lot made us lose games from a winning position that season?

I mean prior to that season Aubameyang was the joint Golden shoe winner along with Mane and Salah that got loserpool the league. We had attackers doing the scoring and defenders letting us down.


In all honesty would u leave Papastha, Mustafi and sometimes unreliable David Luiz to continue in CB while adding more attacking players in Ur team as a coach?

I know people want to troll, post all sort of "I told u so" comments because things didn't work out and our attack became poor the following season with our attackers out of form, but I really want to know if it makes any season to have that terrible defence, ignore it and pump in more attacking threat. For u to know how bad those defenders were, the ones that have been shipped out of the club what did they amount to?

I do not support the purchase of Ben white this season considering defence should not be our priority now especially when there's been considerable improvement in our defensive game, but then I think having dem Mustafi and sons replaced was the right thing to do that time.

The whole Defence wins u league talk came out of this discussion back then....... I don talk say I no go talk this matter again, but I saw Ur reply to spy360 up there and I feel we should just put things into perspective.

The funny thing here is ; Jurgen Klopp that most people like to quote changed the entire back line he met at loserpool before he became a legend at the club. The German signed Robertson, Matip, Van Djik and promoted Alexander Trent-Arnold.....Even Pep the senior bros dey spend excessively on defence every year
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 5:55am On Aug 11, 2021
kodded:
if arteta can give xhaka a second chance at CM, tell me why will he not give willian another second chance at LW

The only attacking position I see us strengthening is AM and so far so good it will be that odeegard boy who couldn't save us against villarel
Seems Arterta get bad taste for players sef undecided
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 5:59am On Aug 11, 2021
Jodera2:
Bwahahaha... Which one be Dino melayenous again? grin
Na greek version of Melaye?? grin

What you said is true. While maybe I might agree for saka to even be rotating with Pepe at least. But ESR isn't ready yet to Mann that Am for a whole season. How dey want to kill to kids with adult's responsibility is beyond me.

Auba at the wings again na another wahala.

We still don't have goal scoring midfielder(s) yet, weak wings and weak Cf(in lacazette). I wonder were the goals will come from for us.

To me, we fit manage carry-along xhaka for midfield, but you see scoring and creative Am and at least one scoring and creative winger (either left or right), it's what is really needed at least for now
We can then build from there
No be me first call him Dino Melaye here na cheesy

How you and some of us who are mere fans understand these simple stuffs than the scammers at the Emirates is beyond me.
Thank God the fans are back, na this time them go see crazyn. cheesy

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 6:17am On Aug 11, 2021
BlueRayDick:
@Jodera2

I see u to be more reasonable and reading to understand before replying a post without much emotions attached to it.

The season Arsenal bought Gabriel, do u honestly think what arsenal needed that season was to bring in an attack considering how Mustafi, Kolasinac, Papasthapopulous and the rest of the lot made us lose games from a winning position that season?

I mean prior to that season Aubameyang was the joint Golden shoe winner along with Mane and Salah that got loserpool the league. We had attackers doing the scoring and defenders letting us down.


In all honesty would u leave Papastha, Mustafi and sometimes unreliable David Luiz to continue in CB while adding more attacking players in Ur team as a coach?

I know people want to troll, post all sort of "I told u so" comments because things didn't work out and our attack became poor the following season with our attackers out of form, but I really want to know if it makes any season to have that terrible defence, ignore it and pump in more attacking threat. For u to know how bad those defenders were, the ones that have been shipped out of the club what did they amount to?

I do not support the purchase of Ben white this season considering defence should not be our priority now especially when there's been considerable improvement in our defensive game, but then I think having dem Mustafi and sons replaced was the right thing to do that time.

The whole Defence wins u league talk came out of this discussion back then....... I don talk say I no go talk this matter again, but I saw Ur reply to spy360 up there and I feel we should just put things into perspective.

The funny thing here is ; Jurgen Klopp that most people like to quote changed the entire back line he met at loserpool before he became a legend at the club. The German signed Robertson, Matip, Van Djik and promoted Alexander Trent-Arnold.....Even Pep the senior bros dey spend excessively on defence every year
That season midfield was the priority, we explain alot that no matter how strong your attack or defence is midfield will be the connection and your lifesaver.
To score was easy cos auba was in a terrific form he doesn't even need provider to score alot of goals
Arsenal keeper won the golden glove with mertersacker and Kos that should tell you midfield of coq and carzola were the key
If you can't get pass the midfield tell me how you will get to defense
Lfc title winning seasons is another example, vvd was getting the praise but the 3 holding midfielders will press the living shít out of any team.
Same with city, the truth is we have accepted it like that but bringing Gabriel purchase again to justify we needing defenders is false
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 6:58am On Aug 11, 2021
iamoyindamola:

That season midfield was the priority, we explain alot that no matter how strong your attack or defence is midfield will be the connection and your lifesaver.
To score was easy cos auba was in a terrific form he doesn't even need provider to score alot of goals
Arsenal keeper won the golden glove with mertersacker and Kos that should tell you midfield of coq and carzola were the key
If you can't get pass the midfield tell me how you will get to defense
Lfc title winning seasons is another example, vvd was getting the praise but the 3 holding midfielders will press the living shít out of any team.
Same with city, the truth is we have accepted it like that but bringing Gabriel purchase again to justify we needing defenders is false

Which season are u referring to exactly?

I don't seem to get this story about Coquelin, Carzola, our golden-glove-winning keeper, Kolscienly and Materscaker thingy... I don't follow.


You have not disprove the fact that courtesy of Kolasinac, Luiz and Mustafi brain farts we lost or draw considerable amount of matches from winning position the season before we decided to go for Gabriel.

As regards Ur midfield talk, we actually got Partey a highly rated midfielder to help solve the central midfield issues. Maybe the club was wrong to think dem Willock and Co would fit into AM after failing to get Aour,......but saying the defence should've been left the way it was is something I will never agree with.

The defence was in shambles an it needed urgent attention, the midfield wasn't neglected as we got Partey too. Let's put things into perspective and not get overly emotional here
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 7:03am On Aug 11, 2021
BlueRayDick:


Which season are u referring to exactly?

I don't seem to get this story about Coquelin, Carzola, our golden-glove-winning keeper, Kolscienly and Materscaker thingy... I don't follow.


You have not disprove the fact that courtesy of Kolasinac, Luiz and Mustafi brain farts we lost or draw considerable amount of matches from winning position the season before we decided to go for Gabriel.

As regards Ur midfield talk, we actually got Partey a highly rated midfielder to help solve the central midfield issues. Maybe the club was wrong to think dem Willock and Co would fit into AM after failing to get Aour,......but saying the defence should've been left the way it was is something I will never agree with.

The defence was in shambles an it needed urgent attention, the midfield wasn't neglected as we got Partey too. Let's put things into perspective and not get overly emotional here
To start with, how many EPL matches Gabriel played last season
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 7:36am On Aug 11, 2021
iamoyindamola:

To start with, how many EPL matches Gabriel played last season

You know the problem I'm having with you and most people saying Gbariel's addition was unnecessary ? It's short memory! You have forgotten how we come here after each match talking about the "senior clowns" we parade in our backline every match day. We were trolled by rival fans and even our own frustrated fans with this.

Now the club listens and tries to sort this out and the next thing you do is say the defence is fair , the midfield should've been sorted forgetting that Partey a celebrated signing was added to our midfield to strengthen it along the way.

I know what u are trying to do by asking ho many games gabriel played, but its just a digression when the main discourse; at the time Gabriel was signed did we need to improve our CB options? Certainly, Yes! considering our terrible our defence was the previous season.

By the way, let me refresh ur memory on highly rated Mustafi was on this streets to have warranted him and his fellow clowns to stay beyond last season grin

thorrvik55:


Rudiger at 27 needs an experienced partner to teach him the very basics of defending?? Very funny something...

It's just like Arsenal fans saying they need a top CB to be paired with Mustafi for his comical defending to stop when everyone knows Mustafi would still make his normal mistakes even if he is paired with prime Baresi..

Jodera:
Mehn bro. First of all I'll say you missed o. Lol.
It was a great game, our boys showed resilience in defence and midfield. Esp what Arteta spoke to those boys at half time did the trick.
Mustafi was really mustafi first half and his stupid under hit pass to Leno was picked up by Abraham, which resulted to luiz making a rash tackle on him and subsequently got a red.
Second half, we really tried o. Special shout out to martinelli who ran from our post to score a solo goal(you need to watch the goal).
All in all, everyone tried. Tho like I always say, Pepe and lacazette needs to improve our attacking play.
That's the few I fit talk o

sod09:
Can't we release mustafi ffs

kokanepyramid:
Mustafi happens

sod09:
I wish mustafi more of the same performance like the one he had yesterday so he can have his dream move to burnthisleaguedown preferably Bayern.
Amen somebody grin grin

sod09:
Monitoring spirit have sighted mhkitaryan in Rome, them Dan they go one by one grin.
Can mustafi be fortunate to find a club angry

sod09:
The guy is full of energy, someone said he's not playing the arsenal way I told him we should be happy cos that makes him unpredictable especially when opponents have no idea he will shoot or pass

In other news,
Mhki is going to Roma on loan with an option to buy, while mustafi helper might be here after all juventus are considering him after de darkness is having a shaky start.
Can these 2 happen and we can get decent replacements in January

sod09:
finally your MCM will gedifok out grin
I just they pity the next unfortunate club to buy mustafi cry cry

sod09:
Auba, xhaka,mustafi and mhki have all removed arsenal FC from their bios good riddance to bad nonsense.
If they can all generate 150m they should all fvck off.
Useless waste pipes, I hope ozil join body with them

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 7:45am On Aug 11, 2021
BlueRayDick:


Which season are u referring to exactly?

I don't seem to get this story about Coquelin, Carzola, our golden-glove-winning keeper, Kolscienly and Materscaker thingy... I don't follow.


You have not disprove the fact that courtesy of Kolasinac, Luiz and Mustafi brain farts we lost or draw considerable amount of matches from winning position the season before we decided to go for Gabriel.

As regards Ur midfield talk, we actually got Partey a highly rated midfielder to help solve the central midfield issues. Maybe the club was wrong to think dem Willock and Co would fit into AM after failing to get Aour,......but saying the defence should've been left the way it was is something I will never agree with.

The defence was in shambles an it needed urgent attention, the midfield wasn't neglected as we got Partey too. Let's put things into perspective and not get overly emotional here
Bros mustafi wasn't with us last season, how many EPL matches did Gabriel play last season.
This is the person you claimed was the priority
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by kodded(m): 7:55am On Aug 11, 2021
Fkhalifa:

Seems Arterta get bad taste for players sef undecided
baba just dey give us midtable vibes
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera2: 7:57am On Aug 11, 2021
kodded:
all that talk na format to justify that ben white deal
Lol.
Sha I just dey siddon look mode dey watch dem till end of TW
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by kodded(m): 8:10am On Aug 11, 2021
Jodera2:
Lol.
Sha I just dey siddon look mode dey watch dem till end of TW
na so na


This transfer window na the more you look, the less you see.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 8:11am On Aug 11, 2021
iamoyindamola:

Bros mustafi wasn't with us last season, how many EPL matches did Gabriel play last season.
This is the person you claimed was the priority

I didn't claim he was the priority . It's evident a CB replacement was needed at the beginning of last season ....U implied it in ur post below

sod09:
Can't we release mustafi ffs

We all lamented how bad our CB pairings were .... our posts lamenting is littered all over this thread. U can't turn back now and start saying we should't have gotten a CB when we all agreed our CB's as at the beginning of last deason were piss poor .

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