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More On Giving Alms To The Needy by GdNews32(op): 8:19am On Aug 12, 2021*

Be very careful how you do that on the internet. Better to give those around you physically, so you don't get yourself in trouble on the internet.
It's important to give anonymously so only GOD can see you rather than the wicked one. Give in secret. If there is strong need to help on the internet, I'd actually prefer sending the money to the one that needs help physically. The enemy eyes are on your online financial transactions

Make sure you only give those you are absolutely sure need help. So, whoever asks you for help should be thoroughly investigated so you don't give wrongly.

I don't give everything I have. And I make sure I don't only give one person because there are many needy people in our midst. You can start by splitting 10% of your income in multiple parts and give those in need anonymously. Also remember the needy in the Church. Charity begins at home.

I'm writing this so the enemy doesn't make you feel guilt for not giving unnecessarily. You must investigate, give those who wont use the money wrongly or to do evil.

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Re: More On Giving Alms To The Needy by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:27am On Aug 12, 2021

Did Jesus or his first century Jewish followers ever give anyone alms?

Well i'm one of his followers so i don't give alms at all, but i must not forsake my brother in times of need. Then what matters is who do i see as "my brother" ?

Re: More On Giving Alms To The Needy by GdNews32(op): 8:32am On Aug 12, 2021

MaxInDHouse:
Did Jesus or his first century Jewish followers ever give anyone alms?

Well i'm one of his followers so i don't give alms at all, but i must not forsake my brother in times of need. Then what matters is who do i see as "my brother" ?

I think you are talking of another jesus not the one I serve.
Could you please stick to the topic?

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Re: More On Giving Alms To The Needy by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:02am On Aug 12, 2021

GdNews32:
I think you are talking of another jesus not the one I serve.
Could you please stick to the topic?

Well i'm talking about one first century Jewish carpenter who claimed he's the Christ. His close confidants recorded everything he said and some of the things he did, that's why i interrupted you, because there is no record of anything like giving of alms in his actions but if you're not talking of the same person then it's OK.
I'm sorry to have misconstrued the topic of your thread, please you may continue talking about your own Jesus! undecided

Re: More On Giving Alms To The Needy by Adamgeneral12: 9:51am On Aug 12, 2021

No wonder I no see anybody that help me,so na so Christian dey undecided

Only God can help man pikin for this world.

For the things you wrote,you and max,I don't change my mind patapata from helping those pastors, you guys are truly evil.

Re: More On Giving Alms To The Needy by CodeTemplar: 10:15am On Aug 12, 2021*

Whichever one you do, it is important you give to those not in a position to help themselves.

Re: More On Giving Alms To The Needy by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:26am On Aug 12, 2021

Adamgeneral12:
No wonder I no see anybody that help me,so na so Christian dey
Only God can help man pikin for this world.
For the things you wrote,you and max,I don't change my mind patapata from helping those pastors, you guys are truly evil.

No wahala, go and arrange for a charity group that will be giving alms to everyone that ask for it. As for Jesus of Nazareth he is not a philanthropist, he never gave anyone alms neither did any of his disciples but we do help people and that's what you supposed to ask:

How do Christians render help since Jesus (the founder of the group) never gave alms?

Evil is everywhere so each person is entitled to his/her own definition of EVIL one thing is evident despite the fact that Jesus never gave anyone alms, he has proved to be the most generous giver of all times.
So if you don't care to know how he gives and also taught his followers to give then you are entitled to your own PERSONAL opinion, that's your cup of coffee!

Re: More On Giving Alms To The Needy by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:28am On Aug 12, 2021

Most of the times unnecessary giving may become EVIL in God's sight!
So learn how to give from the only begotten Son of God (Jesus Christ) you can never know what is good in God's sight better than what Jesus did! John 14:6

CodeTemplar:
Whichever one you do it is important you give toghose not in a position to help themselves.

Re: More On Giving Alms To The Needy by Adamgeneral12: 10:43am On Aug 12, 2021

MaxInDHouse:
No wahala, go and arrange for a charity group that will be giving alms to everyone that ask for it. As for Jesus of Nazareth he is not a philanthropist, he never gave anyone alms neither did any of his disciples but we do help people and that's what you supposed to ask:

How do Christians render help since Jesus (the founder of the group) never gave alms?

Evil is everywhere so each person is entitled to his/her own definition of EVIL one thing is evident despite the fact that Jesus never gave anyone alms, he has proved to be the most generous giver of all times.
So if you don't care to know how he gives and also taught his followers to give then you are entitled to your own PERSONAL opinion, that's your cup of coffee!

If I have the capacity to open orphanage home, I will.
I give even when I have little, Jesus give according to his capacity, the miracle, the preaching,the multiplying of loaf of bread and the fish all are gift to people that can't help them self.
I know jw very well but I don't know that you people have this kind of mind set

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Re: More On Giving Alms To The Needy by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:00am On Aug 12, 2021

Adamgeneral12:
If I have the capacity to open orphanage home, I will.
I give even when I have little, Jesus give according to his capacity, the miracle, the preaching,the multiplying of loaf of bread and the fish all are gift to people that can't help them self.
I know jw very well but I don't know that you people have this kind of mind set

Do you notice that there is no giving of ALMS in the list?

So you need to know WHY, but obviously you don't care you just want to set up your own standard, something that's like filthy rags before the true God! Isaiah 64:6

When you're ready to learn i'm still very much around!

Re: More On Giving Alms To The Needy by Adamgeneral12: 11:38am On Aug 12, 2021

MaxInDHouse:
Do you notice that there is no giving of ALMS in the list?

So you need to know WHY, but obviously you don't care you just want to set up your own standard, something that's like filthy rags before the true God! Isaiah 64:6

When you're ready to learn i'm still very much around!

If learn from you I will be behaving like you, I sense the spirit of proudness in you.
There are two kind of giving
Giving in kind and giving in cash,but according to write up you can't give in any form even if you have the capacity.

Can you please explain to me what am?
I don't have,but everyday I step out someone most to ask me for help,at times I give them my last penny,I my in a filthy rag in the presence of the Lord?

Re: More On Giving Alms To The Needy by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:42pm On Aug 12, 2021

Adamgeneral12:
If learn from you I will be behaving like you, I sense the spirit of proudness in you.
There are two kind of giving
Giving in kind and giving in cash,but according to write up you can't give in any form even if you have the capacity.

Can you please explain to me what am?
I don't have,but everyday I step out someone most to ask me for help,at times I give them my last penny,I my in a filthy rag in the presence of the Lord?

I so much love the bolded, thanks for the observation!
So you can sense that Maximus is not proud of wealth, class, level of education, appearance, possession, status or affluence rather Maximus is boastful of having the accurate knowledge of God's word! Jeremiah 9:23-24

That's really thoughtful of you Sir.
And again you realized that i'm one of JWs the most humble and most vilified group ever on this planet. So i'm not boasting that the knowledge belongs to me but to a group under which i subjected myself to learn and acquired the knowledge. That's OK.

So would you like to know how Jesus taught us to go about giving with godly wisdom or you still feel like sticking to you own personal opinion?

For your information i was a Muslim so you should know that when it comes to alms giving no religion on this planet promotes alms giving than Islam. So i now know the truth, thanks to Jehovah God, His son Jesus and his true followers (Jehovah's Witnesses)

Re: More On Giving Alms To The Needy by Emusan(m): 1:02pm On Aug 12, 2021

MaxInDHouse:
Well i'm talking about one first century Jewish carpenter who claimed he's the Christ. His close confidants recorded everything he said and some of the things he did, that's why i interrupted you, because there is no record of anything like giving of alms in his actions but if you're not talking of the same person then it's OK.
I'm sorry to have misconstrued the topic of your thread, please you may continue talking about your own Jesus!

And the Mumbo Jumbo has started as usual, lying about the scripture.

Jesus didn't give alms according to you, then why did Jesus teach how to give alms?

Do you think alms is limited to money only?

Peter and John gave alms (that is what they have) to the man at the beautiful gate. Was the man part of them before they gave such wonderful alms?

[b]"Then Peter said, “Silver or gold I do not have, but what I DO HAVE I give you. In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, walk.” Acts 3:6

Well as usual, you keep brainwashing yourself about the 8 men doctrines you're defending (even though the 8 men didn't teach what you do propagate at times) but you and your 8 men can't defeat the Word of God which is ever True.

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Re: More On Giving Alms To The Needy by Anas09: 1:08pm On Aug 12, 2021

GdNews32:
I think you are talking of another jesus not the one I serve.
Could you please stick to the topic?

Pls don't mind that Jw. They don't follow Jesus' teachings

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Re: More On Giving Alms To The Needy by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:15pm On Aug 12, 2021

OP is not talking about miraculous healing Sir, he is talking about giving out cash! wink

Emusan:
And the Mumbo Jumbo has started as usual, lying about the scripture.

Jesus didn't give alms according to you, then why did Jesus teach how to give alms?

Do you think alms is limited to money only?

Peter and John gave alms (that is what they have) to the man at the beautiful gate. Was the man part of them before they gave such wonderful alms?

[b]"Then Peter said, “Silver or gold I do not have, but what I DO HAVE I give you. In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, walk.” Acts 3:6

Well as usual, you keep brainwashing yourself about the 8 men doctrines you're defending (even though the 8 men didn't teach what you do propagate at times) but you and your 8 men can't defeat the Word of God which is ever True.

Re: More On Giving Alms To The Needy by Emusan(m): 1:16pm On Aug 12, 2021

MaxInDHouse:
I so much love the bolded, thanks for the observation!
So you can sense that Maximus is not proud of wealth, class, level of education, appearance, possession, status or affluence rather Maximus is boastful of having the accurate knowledge of God's word! Jeremiah 9:23-24

Says the scholars cheesy

I guess your 8 men in Brooklyn (oh New York) doesn't possess the same accurate knowledge.

That's really thoughtful of you Sir.
And again you realized that i'm one of JWs the most humble and most vilified group ever on this planet. So i'm not boasting that the knowledge belongs to me but to a group under which i subjected myself to learn and acquired the knowledge. That's OK.

Vilified by who?

Someone said you're proud of your ignorance yet you keep rejoicing in your delusions grin

So would you like to know how Jesus taught us to go about giving with godly wisdom or you still feel like sticking to you own personal opinion?

Didn't you read where he said, your arrogance/proudness can't make him learn from you?

Oh sorry I forgot you lack basic comprehension. cheesy

For your information i was a Muslim so you should know that when it comes to alms giving no religion on this planet promotes alms giving than Islam. So i now know the truth, thanks to Jehovah God, His son Jesus and his true followers (Jehovah's Witnesses)

We see their charity works all the world.

When you don't even know the meaning of Alms in the first place.

Re: More On Giving Alms To The Needy by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:19pm On Aug 12, 2021

Anas09:
Pls don't mind that Jw. They don't follow Jesus' teachings

Whoever feels the need to know why Jesus never gave alms will ask for it! Matthew 7:7

So many are called but FEW are chosen! Matthew 22:14

Re: More On Giving Alms To The Needy by Emusan(m): 1:22pm On Aug 12, 2021

MaxInDHouse:
OP is not talking about miraculous healing Sir, he is talking about giving out cash!

You see what I'm saying, when you don't have accurate knowledge of subject matter but keep parading yourself as ALL-KNOWING when in reality your ignorance is deep as borehole.

Peter said "WHAT I DO HAVE I GIVE YOU" is that not GIVING?

When you'll refuse to read your Bible but always trying to defend 8 old men in New York.

Re: More On Giving Alms To The Needy by Dtruthspeaker: 1:22pm On Aug 12, 2021

Anas09:
Pls don't mind that Jw. They don't follow Jesus' teachings

Very evil children are they and everytime they open their mouths, their evilness leaks out.

God Commanded
"GIVE TO HIM THAT ASKETH THEE, AND FROM HIM THAT WOULD BORROW OF THEE, TURN NOT THOU AWAY"

"Withhold not good from them to whom it is due, when it is in the power of thine hand to do it."

"Do good to them that hate you"

But sons of evil must confess their evil policy

"Well i'm one of HIS FOLLOWERS so i don't give alms at all"

.... Then what matters is who do i see as "MY BROTHER"?

Yep, follower of evil and we know it is to his brother in evil, to whom he gives ONLY

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Re: More On Giving Alms To The Needy by Dtruthspeaker: 1:26pm On Aug 12, 2021

MaxInDHouse:
Whoever feels the need to know why Jesus never gave alms will ask for it! Matthew 7:7

Never able to stick to topics all because you want sell your Snyper.

The topic is about "alms giving to the needy" and not about "Why Jesus did not give alms".

But you must sneak a way to sell your Snyper!

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Re: More On Giving Alms To The Needy by Emusan(m): 1:30pm On Aug 12, 2021

MaxInDHouse:
Whoever feels the need to know why Jesus never gave alms will ask for it! Matthew 7:7

So many are called but FEW are chosen! Matthew 22:14

Your lack of scriptural understanding isn't only glaring but parading yourself as alpha and omega of the scripture.

JESUS fed thousands of people, that's GIVING.

Look at this scripture "Withhold not good from them to whom it is due, when it is in the power of thine hand to do it." Prov 3:27

Miracle is part of giving because the person/people who received it ARE IN NEED OF IT.

The man that Peter gave WHAT HE HAD at the beautiful gate is perfect example.

Re: More On Giving Alms To The Needy by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:34pm On Aug 12, 2021

Just give an instance as in just one example where a servant of God gave alms (Cash) to a beggar from Genesis to Revelation. Period! wink

Dtruthspeaker:
Very evil children are they and everytime they open their mouths, their evilness leaks out.
God Commanded
"GIVE TO HIM THAT ASKETH THEE, AND FROM HIM THAT WOULD BORROW OF THEE, TURN NOT THOU AWAY"
"Withhold not good from them to whom it is due, when it is in the power of thine hand to do it."
"Do good to them that hate you"
But sons of evil must confess their evil policy
"Well i'm one of HIS FOLLOWERS so i don't give alms at all"
.... Then what matters is who do i see as "MY BROTHER"?
Yep, follower of evil and we know it is to his brother in evil, to whom he gives ONLY

Re: More On Giving Alms To The Needy by Adamgeneral12: 1:38pm On Aug 12, 2021

MaxInDHouse:
I so much love the bolded, thanks for the observation!
So you can sense that Maximus is not proud of wealth, class, level of education, appearance, possession, status or affluence rather Maximus is boastful of having the accurate knowledge of God's word! Jeremiah 9:23-24

That's really thoughtful of you Sir.
And again you realized that i'm one of JWs the most humble and most vilified group ever on this planet. So i'm not boasting that the knowledge belongs to me but to a group under which i subjected myself to learn and acquired the knowledge. That's OK.

So would you like to know how Jesus taught us to go about giving with godly wisdom or you still feel like sticking to you own personal opinion?

For your information i was a Muslim so you should know that when it comes to alms giving no religion on this planet promotes alms giving than Islam. So i now know the truth, thanks to Jehovah God, His son Jesus and his true followers (Jehovah's Witnesses)

Muslim Christian meet Muslim Christian both of them from different doctrine.
If you find knowledge with jw that is good for you,I pray that the knowledge be bless.
I too will find mine and I will get it as far as God is still in heaven.

You did not answer my question, I said what I my in presence of the Lord by helping people?
If you want to teach me, you need to get ready for questions.If you skip one question you answer no question.

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Re: More On Giving Alms To The Needy by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:39pm On Aug 12, 2021

Dtruthspeaker:
Never able to stick to topics all because you want sell your Snyper.
The topic is about "alms giving to the needy" and not about "Why Jesus did not give alms".
But you must sneak a way to sell your Snyper!

Your aggression will always blind you from seeing where i tender an apology here, shey?

MaxInDHouse:
Well i'm talking about one first century Jewish carpenter who claimed he's the Christ. His close confidants recorded everything he said and some of the things he did, that's why i interrupted you, because there is no record of anything like giving of alms in his actions but if you're not talking of the same person then it's OK.
I'm sorry to have misconstrued the topic of your thread, please you may continue talking about your own Jesus!

Well i just want to introduce the opinion of the world's most Wonderful Counselor of all time on the topic of discussion, but if you don't want to hear what he's got to say on the matter then i'll keep it to myself! wink

Re: More On Giving Alms To The Needy by Emusan(m): 1:40pm On Aug 12, 2021

MaxInDHouse:
Just give an instance as in just one example where a servant of God gave alms (Cash) to a beggar from Genesis to Revelation. Period!

Can you give us just one instance where a servant of God gave ALMS (CASH) to A BROTHER from Genesis to Revelation?

Re: More On Giving Alms To The Needy by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:41pm On Aug 12, 2021

Adamgeneral12:
Muslim Christian meet Muslim Christian both of them from different doctrine.
If you find knowledge with jw that is good for you,I pray that the knowledge be bless.
I too will find mine and I will get it as far as God is still in heaven.

You did not answer my question, I said what I my in presence of the Lord by helping people?
If you want to teach me, you need to get ready for questions.If you skip one question you answer no question.

Please pardon me for not attending to your question jare, i don't get the highlighted can you please rephrase it? undecided

Re: More On Giving Alms To The Needy by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:43pm On Aug 12, 2021

Just be patient and keep on asking! Matthew 7:7

Emusan:
Can you give us just one instance where a servant of God gave ALMS (CASH) to A BROTHER from Genesis to Revelation?

Re: More On Giving Alms To The Needy by Emusan(m): 1:45pm On Aug 12, 2021

MaxInDHouse:
Just be patient and keep on asking! Matthew 7:7

Of course I grab your point, using style to boycott again cheesy

But in mean time, here is the question again!

Can you give us just one instance where a servant of God gave ALMS (CASH) to A BROTHER from Genesis to Revelation?

Re: More On Giving Alms To The Needy by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:47pm On Aug 12, 2021

Emusan:
Of course I grab your point, using style to boycott again

But in mean time, here is the question again!

Can you give us just one instance where a servant of God gave ALMS (CASH) to A BROTHER from Genesis to Revelation?

MaxInDHouse:
Just be patient and keep on asking! Matthew 7:7

Re: More On Giving Alms To The Needy by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:51pm On Aug 12, 2021

@Adamgeneral12

I don't get your question please rephrase it and don't worry about how many questions you have for us, we are not alone when it comes to answering thought provoking questions from honest hearts! John 14:26; 16:12-13

Re: More On Giving Alms To The Needy by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:34pm On Aug 12, 2021

OK so everyone is silent still, shey?

Well the problem is our means of exchange which has artificial value: Money

Of course God's law impressed LOVE in the hearts of God's servants globally but when handling Satan's means of exchange we must be very careful. You will all note that the scriptures is silent regarding Jesus' use of money. After his baptism by John,
©He was never in possession of Cash.
©He always ask his followers to keep whatever their friends gave them since most Israelites are used to being kind to strangers in line with God's law.
©When they were caught unaware by critics to pay something as temple tax, Jesus proved that money has artificial value by telling them to go and cash a fish.

When it comes to helping people we need to be certain, is the person in question really in NEED of help or he just WANT the Mammon of unrighteousness (Money) Luke 16:9
I'm most cases were people think they're giving alms they're actually promoting greed when you give someone what he WANT at demand instead of what they truly NEED!

That's why you can never find a single example in the Bible where a servant of God gave alms to a beggar. Because God's people are only commaded to help their neighbours out of LOVE, that's why David could sing saying:

The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want! Psalms 23:1

Of course there were times when David NEEDED help but he never begged for WANTS.

So you can't find servant of God begging neither can you find one giving a beggar, because through God's law we must take good care of ourselves no matter the situation we find ourselves.

That's why JWs don't give beggars money because we 100% sure that none of the worshipers of our own God will ever be a beggar! Psalms 37:25

Whoever NEED help should approach the congregation of God since he/she is a member they must look into his/her case and find a way to assist but he/she must not make demands!

Re: More On Giving Alms To The Needy by Adamgeneral12: 3:54pm On Aug 12, 2021

MaxInDHouse:
@Adamgeneral12

I don't get your question please rephrase it and don't worry about how many questions you have for us, we are not alone when it comes to answering thought provoking questions from honest hearts! John 14:26; 16:12-13

I know that you do connect to each other, you do internet meeting and other form of meeting in fact you are like the Jews among people, you only trust your fellow jw anything out of jw is a trash.
May question is,if someone beg me for money and I have some money with,I now pick out the money that I have and give little amount to that person for him to solve his own problem.
Now what I stated above always happen to me nearly everyday that I go out,even when I'm ridding bike commercially,people always beg me for for lift(those that don't have money for transport)by giving free ride which did not affect my income or my bike,what I my in the presence of God?
By giving the person that I see that he did not have in that moment,how God go dey take look me?
Was God be looking at me as a ragamuffian in his presence?

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