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|Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by alBHAGDADI: 6:41am On Oct 13, 2019|
There is a movement today which believes the tithe which they are to pay to God should be given to the widows, fatherless, orphans or the needy in general. This movement wants to give the tithe to the needy directly from their pocket without giving it to the Church. They even have a Bible passage to back it up. Let's examine it.
Deuteronomy 14:22-29 (KJV)
22 Thou shalt truly tithe all the increase of thy seed, that the field bringeth forth year by year.
23 And thou shalt eat before the LORD thy God, in the place which he shall choose to place his name there, the tithe of thy corn, of thy wine, and of thine oil, and the firstlings of thy herds and of thy flocks; that thou mayest learn to fear the LORD thy God always.
24 And if the way be too long for thee, so that thou art not able to carry it; or if the place be too far from thee, which the LORD thy God shall choose to set his name there, when the LORD thy God hath blessed thee:
25 Then shalt thou turn it into money, and bind up the money in thine hand, and shalt go unto the place which the LORD thy God shall choose:
26 And thou shalt bestow that money for whatsoever thy soul lusteth after, for oxen, or for sheep, or for wine, or for strong drink, or for whatsoever thy soul desireth: and thou shalt eat there before the LORD thy God, and thou shalt rejoice, thou, and thine household,
27 And the Levite that is within thy gates; thou shalt not forsake him; for he hath no part nor inheritance with thee.
28 At the end of three years thou shalt bring forth all the tithe of thine increase the same year, and shalt lay it up within thy gates:
29 And the Levite, (because he hath no part nor inheritance with thee,) and the stranger, and the fatherless, and the widow, which are within thy gates, shall come, and shall eat and be satisfied; that the LORD thy God may bless thee in all the work of thine hand which thou doest.
As seen above, nowhere in the passage are people ordered to give the tithe directly to the needy. God only says the needy should not be forsaken. How does one forsake the needy in this case? You forsake the needy when you fail to tithe, not when you don't give it to them directly.
The tithe is used for different purposes in the house of God. A portion caters for the priests, a portion sees to the care of the house of God, another portion caters for the needy etc. All of these are supervised by God's priest. So when you tithe, the needy comes to the house of God and they are cared for from it.
The reason why the above passage says the tithe has to be taken to the place where God puts his name, i.e the House of God, is because it is from there the distribution to the purposes it serves is done.
Now, there are two kinds of people in the movement that want to give their tithe directly to the needy by themselves. It sound a like a great idea to give to the needy. But they are both wrong. One class is sincere but sincerely wrong, while the other is just being a thief.
An example of such movement is seen in the gospel passages talking about the woman with an alabaster of expensive ointment who poured it on Jesus to show appreciation for what he did for her.
When the disciples saw what she did, they felt awkward about it. They wondered why the expensive ointment wasn't sold and the money given to the poor. They were since but sincerely wrong.
Matthew 26:8-11 (KJV)
8 But when his disciples saw it, they had indignation, saying, To what purpose is this waste?
9 For this ointment might have been sold for much, and given to the poor.
Now, what about the class that is wrong and also being a thief about it? That class has people with the mindset of Judas Iscariot. See what he said below and how the Bible described him and those who reason alike.
John 12:4-6 (KJV)
4 Then saith one of his disciples, Judas Iscariot, Simon's son, which should betray him,
5 Why was not this ointment sold for three hundred pence, and given to the poor?
6 This he said, not that he cared for the poor; but because he was a thief, and had the bag, and bare what was put therein.
Let me tell you something about many of those who love to say their tithe ought to be given to the poor directly by themselves without taking it to the Church. They are thieves. How do I know this? Just read on.
The Bible clearly states that the tithe belongs to God and he even said it has to be brought into his house as seen below.
And all the tithe of the land, whether of the seed of the land, or of the fruit of the tree, is the LORD'S: it is holy unto the LORD.
Malachi 3:10 (KJV)
Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house,
Now, these people who go give it directly to the poor are simply robbing God. They are not to decide how God should spend what belongs to him. They are to pay it to the church and allow God and his priest decide how to spend it. But no, they think it is right the tithe is given to the poor and needy themselves.
Ask them what they did with their own 90 percent. They spent it all on themselves without caring for the poor out of it. But it is God's own money they now want to give to the poor. That's robbery. They are Judas Iscariot, because if they truly cared for the poor, they would have something from their own 90 percent to give to the poor and allow God enjoy his own 10 percent. They are like Judas who had the money bag but never gave to the poor from it but is eyeing the expensive oil spent on Jesus who is God.
10 When Jesus understood it, he said unto them, Why trouble ye the woman? for she hath wrought a good work upon me.
11 For ye have the poor always with you; but me ye have not always.
The moment you decide to neglect the word of God by giving the tithe to the needy yourself, you will get consumed by pride. There's this feeling you will get when you give it to the needy yourself. You will feel fulfilled, however, that's you feeling puffed up and consumed by pride because you did the desire of your heart, not what God ordered.
Guess what? You have taken God's glory because the people you gave it to will praise you and henceforth hold you in high-esteem. All of these belongs to God, but you have cornered it to yourself.
You used God's money to buy those things for yourself - that's another offence. You also prevent the needy from going to God's house to seek help where they will be exposed to his word. Now, it's your own house they will go to.
Guess what will happen to God's house? It will become empty because there will be no priest nor workers to run it because they are not getting paid and can't feed. They will go look for job elsewhere. The Church will become empty because the needy won't be there to fill it up and there won't be a priest to minister to them. Such a church will die. That is what Satan wants. He wants the church to be starved of funds so it will die and souls will continue to go to hell. You have foolishly aided the devil's dream because you chose to follow your heart and emotions instead of the word of God. Your way seemed right to you over the word of God.
What you have to do is pay the tithe to the house of God and never worry how it's spent. It's not your money, so why bother yourself about it? Also, make sure it is God's house you are paying the money to, not some crooked man running a business center and claiming it is a church. Pay the money into the bank God uses and it will get to him, not in the bank he doesn't use.
Next time, follow what the Bible says, not your heart which is prone to emotions. The thought of our hearts sometimes seems right but are wrong. Many of the tithe we pay are not always used to maintain the church. They are sent to jungles where missionary men are facing dangers to spread the gospel. Don't hinder God's work by disobeying his word and following your heart.
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|Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by StrikeBack(m): 6:50am On Oct 13, 2019|
Giving tithe or not, our focus should be how we can make Nigeria Better. Your tithe is just tithe. MONEY for your ELITES
|Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by nonny1212: 7:09am On Oct 13, 2019|
Interesting topic. I was amazed when I saw about tithing being done once in 3 years or once a year. So I wonder how and where our pastors got the impression of tithing every month. That's my first observation
Secondly, is tithing really for the pastors or for us to feast and dine in God's name as it was clearly stated in the scripture.
Thirdly, am as confused as you reading my stuff. Throw more light pls
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|Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by alBHAGDADI: 7:22am On Oct 13, 2019|
Agricultural produce are known to be harvested yearly in most cases, that's why tithing was done yearly. Today, people earn monthly, that's why they pay it monthly. You can chose to accumulate all the monthly tithe and pay it at the end of the year. What matters is you paying what belongs to God. But by the end of the year, the amount may appear too big to want to let go. So, it's advisable it is paid monthly when it appears small.
Yes, you are to feast and dine, but the passage never said you should feast on the exact tithe you brought. The feasting is what the temple prepared for everyone to eat. The bulls, sheep, corn, wheat etc are prepared and eaten by everyone after some have been stored and some sacrificed to God through burnt offering. Imagine you pay a tithe of a cow and bags of corn, can you feast on the whole of it in one sitting? The priest only takes a portion out of the many cows paid as tithe, slaughters it and everyone feasts. Same happens when your church holds yearly or quarterly feasts.
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|Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by Nobody: 7:31am On Oct 13, 2019|
So even in the Law of Moses, apart from the Levites, God also approved that tithes be given to the needy?
That should lay to rest the debate of the Bible's position concerning who should benefit from the tithes once and for all, for even the Levites were also needy, hence the need of them benefitting from tithes.
So Jesus only fortified this position, with His emphasis of giving to the poor and needy, for that has always been the position of God since the needy came into existence.
Luke 14:12-14 (KJV)
12 Then said he also to him that bade him, When thou makest a dinner or a supper, call not thy friends, nor thy brethren, neither thy kinsmen, nor thy rich neighbours; lest they also bid thee again, and a recompence be made thee.
13 But when thou makest a feast, call the poor, the maimed, the lame, the blind:
14 And thou shalt be blessed; for they cannot recompense thee: for thou shalt be recompensed at the resurrection of the just.
So whether it's tithes or alms, never to give to the rich who have, but always to give to the poor and needy who don't have.
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|Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by HerCuteness(f): 7:42am On Oct 13, 2019|
I particularly learned a lot from this, this , this, this and Google. I would encourage you to do your own exploration and learn, pray about and consider the purpose and importance of tithing.
But what gets me about your question is the word
instead . Maybe I’m splitting hairs, but I get a vibe that you don’t see the value in your church getting your money. You’re not asking about splitting 10 percent between your church and a charity, you said instead .
So for learning purposes, let’s shelve the whole tithing, biblical mandate thing and, for now, treat your particular church as another charity. Let’s think about some big-picture questions that people tend to ask when deciding if they’re going to lend support to a person or institution:
1. Do I believe in the mission?
I’m guessing that if you go to an evangelical church in America, they have the mission/vision/purpose statement plastered everywhere. It’s probably a lot of single buzz-words with periods after each word. God. Real. Community. Coffee. Banjo.
No matter how they’ve branded the mission, the question remains: Do you know why your church exists? Does your church know why it exists?
2. Is the mission being accomplished?
I’m assuming you know the answer to #1, or you wouldn’t have landed there in the first place. However, it’s one thing to say we know why we exist as a church, it’s quite another to actually see that mission bearing fruit.
When you look and listen around, do you hear the stories of lives being changed? When you see what’s really being accomplished at your church, does it line up with what they’ve set out to do?
3. Would I trust them with my money?
This seems like a trite question compared to #1 and #2, but if we’re looking at the church as it compares with every other nonprofit/charity, we have to ask—are they leveraging their resources well?
Here’s how you know: they are incredibly transparent about their finances. If you’re at a place where that’s happening, you’ll be assured both from the leadership and from the evidence that your money is doing what it’s supposed to be doing: building the Kingdom.
So how’s your church doing? If any of those questions gave you pause, take a step back and prayerfully consider if this is still your community (which I hope it is) and then (if it is) dig in!
Your church needs you, in fact, your church is you. If there’s something going on that’s just not sitting right with you, be a part of fixing it.
Don’t choose instead , choose both. Because unlike a charity, you’ll never find a more important mission (see #1) than the mission of the Church (See Acts 2). Social justice and sponsoring kids is vitally important, but if the Church was really doing its job, those charities would be overwhelmed with support and eventually not need to exist.
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|Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by Truefaith: 8:20am On Oct 13, 2019|
Check this issue up with your Bible OPEN at
|Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by doctore212(m): 8:21am On Oct 13, 2019|
|Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by MANNABBQGRILLS: 8:21am On Oct 13, 2019|
That is the only thing that guide us in life.
THANK YOU JESUS!
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|Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by Fideo(m): 8:21am On Oct 13, 2019|
|Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by PureGoldh(m): 8:21am On Oct 13, 2019|
I prefer giving my tithe to the Needy and my offering(s) to the church.
That's for me Thoo.... I don't know about you
|Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by Ekakamba: 8:21am On Oct 13, 2019|
A real and true Christian should/will advocate for this:
What God the Father considers to be pure and genuine religion is this: to take care of orphans and widows in their suffering and to keep oneself from being corrupted by the world.
James 1:27 GNB
Well, what do I know sef?
|Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by driand(m): 8:21am On Oct 13, 2019|
OP since I've quoted the very verse let's deal with it, after all uve said
Go back and read and tell me where I would get money for my Heineken after dashing ur pastor my money, also remember viju milk for my son, my baby mama takes smirnoff ice,... Afterall your verse mentioned my household,
And sorry abeg who's the levite? Better don't mention ur pastor, cuz he's not from the tribe of Levi,...
|Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by amiibaby(f): 8:22am On Oct 13, 2019|
|Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by Topmaike007(m): 8:23am On Oct 13, 2019|
Una Don come again
For me oo, I give it to someone in need, my one cent can actually save a life rather than drop it where they will use it to park and fuel private jet.
|Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by bitbybit123: 8:23am On Oct 13, 2019|
Check the link below for an answer given by a pastor. First time am hearing a Nigerian pastor making sense.
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|Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by Richdad50(m): 8:24am On Oct 13, 2019|
You are incredible
|Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by Criticaltemp: 8:24am On Oct 13, 2019|
To the needy is right bible or no bible
|Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by Madibah(m): 8:24am On Oct 13, 2019|
Give dem to olosho's
|Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by 1Sharon(f): 8:24am On Oct 13, 2019|
A God that created heaven and earth and EVERYTHING doesn't need paper money to function.
A God that requires payment to protect you shows he's not almighty and al powerful.
Stop being scammed by pastorpreneurs.
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|Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by Enculer: 8:24am On Oct 13, 2019|
Don't you people get tired of stealing people's money?
Focus on developing your country.
|Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by solmusdesigns: 8:25am On Oct 13, 2019|
how pathetic of africans it is, thinking they are jews or arabs
|Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by InvertedHammer: 8:26am On Oct 13, 2019|
Anyone who has no good use for money should better hand it over to a pastor who knows how to live it up.
After all, Mathew 13:12 told us and I quote,
"Whoever has will be given more, and they will have an abundance. Whoever does not have, even what they have will be taken from them"
Take away the little the morons have and add it to the abundance of the pastors. Case closed.
|Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by Darkseid(m): 8:26am On Oct 13, 2019|
My tithe belongs to me and me alone, anything I choose to give to any other person is left for me to decide.
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|Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by Thisis2raw(m): 8:27am On Oct 13, 2019|
Malachi 3:10 (KJV)
Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house
That a clear direction, bring it to my house. Not to give to a begger at the road.
Tho the act of giving to the poor can't be overemphasized, that why Jesus said give and it shall be given upon to
|Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by ednut1(m): 8:27am On Oct 13, 2019|
98% of churches in nigeria were opened for tithes and offering revenue. Not new
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|Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by GoodBoi1(m): 8:27am On Oct 13, 2019|
This is the greatest commandment of all
37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’[a] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”
Since love is the greatest commandment and every law hang on it, tithing is a way I can show love to my brethren that serve in a church, to the needy through church outreaches, to the family of the senior and junior pastors, to ensure church has money for spreading gospel, if tithing can do all these then it isn't wrong if it is done today. When we receive payment at the end of the month, pastors and church workers must chop too because they offer us service. Tithing today should not even be restricted to 10%, you give as you are led, if you can give more than that, no problem. It's all about loving God and loving your fellow man. Even Christ didn't come to abolish the law but to fulfill it. So God's principles still remain regardless. You might say that tithing is of the law but Abraham tithed before the law
And blessed be God Most High, Who has delivered your enemies into your hand.” And he gave him a tithe of all.
Also from the scriptures, through Christ, we are children of Abraham therefore tithing should be our culture
17 But some of these branches from Abraham’s tree—some of the people of Israel—have been broken off. And you Gentiles, who were branches from a wild olive tree, have been grafted in. So now you also receive the blessing God has promised Abraham and his children, sharing in the rich nourishment from the root of God’s special olive tree
The real children of Abraham, then, are those who put their faith in God.
Tithing is a principle and principles remain
Church is a place where souls are nourished spiritually and like Paul said
1 Cor 9 : 11
11 If we have sown spiritual seed among you, is it too much if we reap a material harvest from you? 12 If others have this right of support from you, shouldn’t we have it all the more?
So based on this principle, if a church tells members to pay tithe as a way to ensure the church has money is it wrong according to the scriptures? A selfish heart will say it is wrong. The church has the right to do so. What is 10 percent that you can't deny yourself? Yet you pay tax to the government If you can't give 10 percent, can you give 100 percent like the christians of the early church
Luke 16: 10
If you are faithful in little things, you will be faithful in large ones. But if you are dishonest in little things, you won’t be honest with greater responsibilities
That's our Lord Jesus, if you have a problem with 10%, you can't be trusted to "give" 100% or a major substance of yours to the church.
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|Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by damosky12(m): 8:29am On Oct 13, 2019|
I don't know why you guys, under the guise of speaking against exploitation, speak against giving in church.
Such mentalities are just not in line with scriptures.
Whether a Christian chooses to give 10℅, 20℅ or even 90℅ of his income should not offend you...
Let him that is taught in the word communicate unto him that teacheth in all good things.
1 Corinthians 9:9-11,13
For it is written in the law of Moses, Thou shalt not muzzle the mouth of the ox that treadeth out the corn. Doth God take care for oxen?
Or saith he it altogether for our sakes? For our sakes, no doubt, this is written: that he that ploweth should plow in hope; and that he that thresheth in hope should be partaker of his hope.
 If we have sown unto you spiritual things, is it a great thing if we shall reap your carnal things?
 Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple?
Christians should be wary of those who are always after speaking against giving in the church. it is just not of God.
That a few people are exploitative doesn't mean the whole church of God is.
Be careful of thoughts against the church.
Check out my detailed teaching on tithing and giving here:
|Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by BeardlessGang: 8:29am On Oct 13, 2019|
Happy Sunday from here.
This is what I have
|Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by Nobody: 8:29am On Oct 13, 2019|
The modern day pastors, prophets and prophetesses are equivalent to the biblical levites but they have taken all our inheritances. This is forbidden for the biblical levites.
The modern day men of God are splendidly rich from being the custodians of our tithes.
|Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by Ceoking6: 8:30am On Oct 13, 2019|
Funny enough am not against tithe since the church has to device a way to generate "tax" and keep the church running.
My problem is the pastors have refused to tell the people the truth and they swindle them with spirituality so they can't be questioned on what their money is been used for.
Tithe "tax" isn't meant for pastors to live the luxury life, the church including the members are supposed to agree on its use which should primarily be to maintain the church, take care of basic emergencies and help the poor which Christ admitted would never cease from the earth, just a little can be saved for pastor welfare.
By the way tithing was restricted to the jews to help the Levite's whose jobs was to man the temple 24/7 without working.
Ask yourself was their no coins monetary stuff then? So why was the bible specific about animals and farm produce, its simply because they were "burnt" as offering to God and the remainder was kept so "their would be meat in the store house for the Levite's".
The bible never asked for coins/paper money then cos it can't be burnt as offering neither was it necessary to the Levites
The other Jews would always flood the temple to "wash their sins away" with animal and crop offering, but today Christ has done the sacrifice and you don't need to visit temple every time because your salvation is within Christ who lives inside you.
In effect no need for Levite's "which pastors fraudulently claim" to be jobless because their jobs are now over, they can get a part time work instead of been jobless waiting for tithes 100%.
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