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tamdun:
What part of the Quran encourage people to be terrorist?

Islam is a political party with militant wings. Islam was spread by violence in its early years. Warriors were promised powers, goodies and virgins.

WE KNEW ABOUT THIS MADAM. YOU SHOULD INCLUDE MACBAN FOR THE AFRICAN ZONE. WASN'T THAT THE REASON KERRY VISITED SOKOTO INSTEAD OF ABUJA? WE THOUGHT THAT THE DEMOCRATS COULD COPE. WE NEVER THOUGHT THAT IT WOULD END UP IN THIS TALIBAN DISASTER AND THE DESTRUCTION OF THE PEACE THAT HAS ALWAYS REIGNED IN THE SOUTH OF NIGERIA.

joyandfaith:
It should be public burial, right?

If they could execute a nation's (saddam hussein) president publicly, why are they hiding Osama.?
They claimed to threw his body in the ocean abi

bammo:
Dude, we both know its not going to work.. at least not by asking them to murder

U don't know anything then, u think they only use Muslims against Muslims? Read about Chile,Venezuela, Cuba etc

joyandfaith:
Islam is a political party with militant wings. Islam was spread by violence in its early years. Warriors were promised powers, goodies and virgins.

I asked a question

Biodun556:
Those who were saying US can not assist Afghanistan forever are missing it. They caused problem for the country due to selfish national interest. Now they couldn't solve the problem.

We DEMAND the REPORT OF KERRY'S VISIT TO SOKOTO INSTEAD OF ABUJA.

tamdun:
If they could execute a nation's (saddam hussein) president publicly, why are they hiding Osama.?
They claimed to threw his body in the ocean abi

What is your point?
Lies from mallam that osama was not killed by US or he is still alive.

joyandfaith:
What is your point?
Lies from mallam that osama was not killed by US or he is still alive.

U don't know, even us citizens cannot answer that question, I'm just wondering, why give him secret burial

tamdun:
U don't know, even us citizens cannot answer that question, I'm just wondering, why give him secret burial

I don't believe in conspiracy theories. It gives me peace of mind. Osama was killed and buried.

tamdun:
U don't know anything then, u think they only use Muslims against Muslims? Read about Chile,Venezuela, Cuba etc

So you want to tell me that they used the church against other churches?
Like redeem killing Catholics?
Dude when Reverend King encouraged and participated in killing in his Lagos church in the name of God, Christians protested & made sure he got the death sentence for it.
Christianity is not forced on Christians, u are free to listen to your God-given concience.

[quote author=bammo post=104911406]So you want to tell me that they used the church against other churches?
Like redeem killing Catholics?
Dude when Reverend King encouraged and participated in killing in his Lagos church in the name of God, Christians made sure he got the death sentence for it.
The bolded isn't true, it was the court that sentenced him to death, his church members still celebrate him date

[quote author=tamdun post=104911525][/quote]That's some of his church members (I personally know one that shaved his beards and quit), but the rest of the Christians called for his prosecution.

Saifullah01:
Is America (not Americans) a force for good or instability in the modern day world.... oya researchers and debaters food is ready. (unfortunately this is not for the pea brained fellows that have infested NL of late with petty tribal and religious hatred)

Note: The ISI Hillary was referring to is the Pakistani intelligence and not political ISIS or ISIL or whatever they call themselves

us supported talibans during the fall of the sovereign union.

SilaV:
The information in this video is not as depicted by the topic. Let's take a balanced and unbiased analysis of the situation. The USA made a political move by trying to whittle down the influence of Soviet Union, who invaded Afghanistan. Of course, the response of the USA was to move in swiftly to train some set of Pakistani and Afghans, who later became mujahidin and later different forms of terrorist groups, to repel the invasion of Soviet Union. These mujahidin were initially not terrorists, but later became one due to the training and ammunition they had access to.

Setting the record straight, the USA never sponsored them as terrorist groups. If the line of logic some people here are trying to put forward is sacrosanct, then it would be fair to say that GOD should held responsible for creating Satan. At the point of creation Satan was not the Devil he later became. We should also blame the government for empowering military guys who went to rob. These military guys were trained for a just course but chose to use the training the wrong way. Using same line of argument one would also blame a company for upgrading the skills of an employee IT expert , who later hacked their sensitive information and comprised such. This line of argument is endless.
Now the question; is the USA totally innocent? I will say no. The USA, like every other world powers, wants to benefit from any thing they get involved in. It could be the natural resources of such a country or to use such a country as a military base in other to have access to other rival country of interest. This my view regarding the USA involvement. Does USA sponsor terrorist? Absolutely no.

Let's look at these countries in Africa: Sudan, and Somalia. And other countries in the Middle East. Now, let's look at the Northern part of Nigeria. A particular religion is dominant in these places, and we all know how peaceful or otherwise these places are. The truth is some religion are more peaceful than the other. Islam, they say, is a peaceful religion, but I'm not convinced with all that I have seen.
Most Nigerian young Muslims that are leaving the country hardly go to Islamic dominated countries, but would prefer to go to USA, Canada, France, UK, Australia, Switzerland , and other Christian dominated countries. These young educated individuals can defend the religion but would not want to live where this is practiced to the fullest. The ladies that practice this religion prefer to be these Christian dominated countries due to the freedom they enjoy. Surprisingly, they are also quick to criticize same countries that offer them what their religion denies them. This is simply true. But these guys are very quick to pass the blame of their intolerance and violent nature o others. Ask them to travel and live in these Islamic countries, they won't, but they will be agitating for a right they never had in countries that practice their religion.
Anger, violence, aggression, intolerance are some of the things that I have seen characterize the religion. We all saw what happened in France, Germany, and some other countries that offered to help asylum seekers from these Islamic countries. These guys are simply living in denial. I will stop here.
The simple point I'm making is that the Islamic faith needs to do a lot to convince a non-faith adherent that their religion is really that of peace, tolerance, has respect for women, and non-violent. Majority of terrorist groups all over the world today are claiming they simply thoroughly practicing Islam.
So, guys tying hard too to find a solace in justifying a battered religion should simply face the reality and calm down. Honestly, I would be very ashamed if I were to be a Muslim. No religion is a monopoly of violence, and other anti-social issues, but it is too prevalent with Islam.

the US supported a rebelion and they are exposed enough to know that such rebellions without structures would definitely go astray.
It's just like giving weapon to an hungry man. Someday he might consider to use those weapon to rob.

DCatt:
I posted this video years ago and there was another video where Obama also said he funded ISIS.

Trump has been right on every single thing he said including Obama and Clinton's roles among terrorist groups.

Taliban didn't take over Afganistan, Biden gave it to China, Taliban is just a front. Chinese foreign minister was in Afganistan last week to supervise the whole thing.

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You probably didn't read or don't know that it was Trump that started the whole of withdrawing American troops from Afghanistan??

Biodun556:
Why can't America recruit and fund the Christians or jews among the Afghans instead of extremists?

Common sense na.. How many jews and Christains dey Afganistan bros....

Biodun556:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5c4QmCnXkM

. Funded

Sirjamo:
When I said it here that the US is the number one terror organization in the world, some fools here called me a terrorist.

Very soon we will accuse USA of forming the religion Islam in order to use it to terrorise the whole world.

How come it's only the Muslims the USA can turn to terrorists? Something must be wrong somewhere.

WhatCanIsay:
Very soon we will accuse USA of forming the religion Islam in order to use it to terrorise the whole world.

How come it's only the Muslims the USA can turn to terrorists? Something must be wrong somewhere.

Who turn ipob and esn to terrorists and which religion do they practice?

joyandfaith:
One group of mujahidins that fought Soviets transformed into taliban( student) to hijack power in 1996. The Taliban are a movement of religious students (talib) from the Pashtun areas of eastern and southern Afghanistan who were educated in traditional Islamic schools in Pakistan. Most talibans are of pashtun ethnic group.

I'm not in support of Taliban. They bombed innocent citizens including children to settle scores with the US. If you are truely doing something for Allah sake and not for selfish and political reasons, why killing innocent citizens with suicide bombers and car bombing ? When muslim brotherhood lost power in Egypt, they refused to take up arm against the tyrant in now power despite that many of the muslim brotherhood members are been killed or executed and jailed.

If the Taliban had joined politics by forming political party, they will still win because they belong to pashtun, the largest ethnic group in Afghanistan but they chose blood letting instead, that's not for Allah's sake. They are power mongers.

Uyi168:
Common sense na.. How many jews and Christains dey Afganistan bros....

Hindus, Jews and Christian have sizable population in Afghanistan. The Taliban and the US share something in common i.e. terrorism

Biodun556:
Hindus, Jews and Christian have sizable population in Afghanistan. [/b]The Taliban and the US share something in common i.e. terrorism[b]

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I agree.

The context of this speech was Hilary Clinton accusing Republicans (administration of Ronald Reagan) of being the creators of Taliban. It is not entirely true though.
The US did not create the Taliban but they funded it and used it to destroy the Soviet Union. They almost used Chenchen Republic to destroy Russia itself.

Biodun556:
Who turn ipob and esn to terrorists and which religion do they practice?

Tell me more...

Saifullah01:
Is America (not Americans) a force for good or instability in the modern day world.... oya researchers and debaters food is ready. (unfortunately this is not for the pea brained fellows that have infested NL of late with petty tribal and religious hatred)

Note: The ISI Hillary was referring to is the Pakistani intelligence and not political ISIS or ISIL or whatever they call themselves

A force for good. Because of how brutal USSR wanted to dominate yes they supported the group to drive back USSR but didn't tell them to misbehave and wen dey started to be radicals and attacked US they were also attacked

SilaV:
The information in this video is not as depicted by the topic. Let's take a balanced and unbiased analysis of the situation. The USA made a political move by trying to whittle down the influence of Soviet Union, who invaded Afghanistan. Of course, the response of the USA was to move in swiftly to train some set of Pakistani and Afghans, who later became mujahidin and later different forms of terrorist groups, to repel the invasion of Soviet Union. These mujahidin were initially not terrorists, but later became one due to the training and ammunition they had access to.

Setting the record straight, the USA never sponsored them as terrorist groups. If the line of logic some people here are trying to put forward is sacrosanct, then it would be fair to say that GOD should be held responsible for creating Satan. At the point of creation Satan was not the Devil he later became. We should also blame the government for empowering military guys who later went to rob. These military guys were trained for a just course but chose to use the training the wrong way. Using same line of argument, one would also blame a company for upgrading the skills of an employee IT expert , who later hacked their sensitive information and compromised such. This line of argument is endless.
Now the question; is the USA totally innocent? I will say no. The USA, like every other world powers, wants to benefit from any thing they get involved in. It could be the natural resources of such a country or to use such a country as a military base in other to have access to other rival country of interest. This is my view regarding the USA involvement. Does USA sponsor terrorist? Absolutely no.

Let's look at these countries in Africa: Sudan, and Somalia. And other countries in the Middle East. Now, let's look at the Northern part of Nigeria. A particular religion is dominant in these places, and we all know how peaceful or otherwise these places are. The truth is some religion are more peaceful than the other. Islam, they say, is a peaceful religion, but I'm not convinced with all that I have seen.
Most Nigerian young Muslims that are leaving the country hardly go to Islamic dominated countries, but would prefer to go to USA, Canada, France, UK, Australia, Switzerland , and other Christian dominated countries. These young educated individuals can defend the religion but would not want to live where this is practiced to the fullest. The ladies that practice this religion prefer to be in these Christian dominated countries due to the freedom they enjoy. Surprisingly, they are also quick to criticize same countries that offer them what their religion denies them. This is simply true. But these guys are very quick to pass the blame of their intolerance and violent nature on others. Ask them to travel and live in these Islamic countries, they won't, but they will be agitating for a right they never had in countries that practice their religion.
Anger, violence, aggression, intolerance are some of the things that I have seen characterize the religion. We all saw what happened in France, Germany, and some other countries that offered to help asylum seekers from these Islamic countries. These guys are simply living in denial. I will stop here.
The simple point I'm making is that the Islamic faith needs to do a lot to convince a non-faith adherent that their religion is really that of peace, tolerance, has respect for women, and non-violent. Majority of terrorist groups all over the world today are claiming they are simply thoroughly practicing Islam.
So, guys trying too hard to find a solace in justifying a battered religion should simply face the reality and calm down. Honestly, I would be very ashamed if I were to be a Muslim. No religion is a monopoly of violence, and other anti-social issues, but it is too prevalent with Islam.

my gee one big bottle of stout for u. U completely nailed it Nigerians don't think with their brains but are quick to judge USA I was trying to explain this same thing u are talking about but they were still blinded. If USSR had their way even Europe could have been over run. Eg of mujahideen is typically found in Rambo 3 how it depicts the USA sending an agent to halt USSR expansion. Islam remain a curse to the world

Biodun556:
Why should they fight the Soviet Union?

Who sent them? They should have left the country with Soviet ideology.

Recruiting extremists to fight them is in whose benefits?

You are a very real olodo.. Soviet union invaded Afghanistan and they were not extremist then.the taliban leader mullah Omar and others like him were among those that fought the soviet and very few of them team up to form taliban.. Part of those that fought the soviet was dostum who later became the vice president of the country.. When you don't know history read up on it so you don't open your yansh for all to see.. International politics is never black or white, you have to be able to read between the lines to even have a glimpse of the real motives of them, none is innocent, usa 8s just being trumped up atleast because of their human right and freedom even if it's a little better than others

jumper524:
the US supported a rebelion and they are exposed enough to know that such rebellions without structures would definitely go astray.
It's just like giving weapon to an hungry man. Someday he might consider to use those weapon to rob.

They funded a rebellion just as people funded the endsars campaign coz they thought it was a good course.. me I don't see why some people are blaming the US for something their almajiri system is causing..
That Hillary Clinton is just a typical politician, she doesn't care about the implication of her reckless words as long as her political party comes on top.... .

bammo:
They funded a rebellion just as people funded the endsars campaign coz they thought it was a good course.. me I don't see why some people are blaming the US for something their almajiri system is causing..
That Hillary Clinton is just a typical politician, she doesn't care about the implication of her reckless words as long as her political party comes on top.... .

nah the US can't be so naive.. They had their motive and they still achieved part of those motives..

beejaay:
You are a very real olodo.. Soviet union invaded Afghanistan and they were not extremist then.the taliban leader mullah Omar and others like him were among those that fought the soviet and very few of them team up to form taliban.. Part of those that fought the soviet was dostum who later became the vice president of the country.. When you don't know history read up on it so you don't open your yansh for all to see.. International politics is never black or white, you have to be able to read between the lines to even have a glimpse of the real motives of them, none is innocent, usa 8s just being trumped up atleast because of their human right and freedom even if it's a little better than others

Is Amas a terrorist organization or freedom fighters?