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bobestman:
Them no go still gree. You get time to argue with people them don chop there head. Person wey do that thing for bible no be Jesus. When their enemies colonize their brains, them remove the original person from the book and replace with Jesus. Even the root names be like a praise to one of the Greek gods.

Je ....ie/hei/hail
Sus.....su/zus/zeus

Let them keep accepting what they know nothing about until the day the false light/deciever/impostor they were told will imitate the Creator on earth be revealed. When the true light shine on them, them go see well.

I believe you my brother...

Bishopkingsley:
what area do you find hard to understand

Why would God impregnate another man's wife...?


After commanding men not to commit adultery..

22jumpstreet:
Why would God impregnate another man's wife...?


After commanding men not to commit adultery..

The child grew inside Mary there was no physical contact

Some one holy needs to die in place of me and u

Before we can be saved

Bishopkingsley:
The child grew inside Mary there was no physical contact

Some one holy needs to die in place of me and u

Before we can be saved

Saved from what?

How did you get the idea that somebody had to die?

22jumpstreet:
Saved from what?

How did you get the idea that somebody had to die?

Adam sin and died

So God had to come down to take the death of Adam so that Adam and all human can be able to come back to life rather than going to hell

Bishopkingsley:
How can you believe Matthew and refuse to believe Jesus it is a wonder to me lol

Question
.anyone who don't reason along with you people is a Jehovah witness right? Keep dreaming. They know better than all Christians

Answer

How can they know more than us when they don't even know the truth common sense should tell you that, JW hate Jesus songs but sing sex songs rather then Jesus songs just because they hate Trinity only a mad man will think this way you hate Trinity but embrace love sex worldly songs

There is no part of the scriptures they practice because they say their organization is what can save you and not Jesus if you are a part of them then your lost and need to come back to Jesus if you actually believe the Bible

Question
first and ancient.

Answer

Who told you that some thing was ancient when you are not up to one thousand years don't believe any one or any thing apart from the Bible if it not in the Bible then it just ancient mere words read the Bible it says Jesus is the name by which we pray for anything to God

There is no new Messiah apart from Jesus any new person coming will be the man of sin Satan incarnate be careful don't fall in to sin

They understand the doctrines more than you people but are also in the same mess as you all
Even if I give you scriptures you will still argue. There is no one named Jesus. It's an Impostor added to the bible to decieve gullible people like you and your fellow Churchians. He appear as a false light to decieve you all.
The true Messiah will return first to his Temple like a being like me and you. He comes first as human and as a priest to gather and sanctify his people (Isaiah 11:11-12) and sanctify those he will use to teach the world (Malachi 3:1-3). You Christians will never believe in him cos you all will be waiting on the Impostor to come on the sky. Many of you will work against him and kill him(cut him off like Daniel said). He will not die but will ascend not descend first. The impostor is the one to first descend and many Christians will follow him. You will know the difference at that moment and that's when the wrath is poured out. The ungullible ones will be marked and won't be hurt. Read the book of Daniel, Prophets and Revelations. The one to decieve is already here since the abomination was set up but has not been revealed. He is the one decieving the world and you Christians. Put it in the back of your mind that Isreal must first be gathered as the people of covenant and they are the ones to teach you all the truth. Am not talking about the fake Isreal. Check verse 14 in the pic, when he comes he will reveal all things hidden from you all. All you have today are the lies your enemies sold to you. These is why I tell you ppl to wait. The truth will shock the world. Shine your eyes

bobestman:
They understand the doctrines more than you people but are also in the same mess as you all
Even if I give you scriptures you will still argue. There is no one named Jesus. It's an Impostor added to the bible to decieve gullible people like you and your fellow Churchians. He appear as a false light to decieve you all.
The true Messiah will return first to his Temple like a being like me and you. He comes first as human and as a priest to gather and sanctify his people (Isaiah 11:11-12) and sanctify those he will use to teach the world (Malachi 3:1-3). You Christians will never believe in him cos you all will be waiting on the Impostor to come on the sky. Many of you will work against him and kill him(cut him off like Daniel said). He will not die but will ascend not descend first. The impostor is the one to first descend and many Christians will follow him. You will know the difference at that moment and that's when the wrath is poured out. The ungullible ones will be marked and won't be hurt. Read the book of Daniel, Prophets and Revelations. The one to decieve is already here since the abomination was set up but has not been revealed. He is the one decieving the world and you Christians. Put it in the back of your mind that Isreal must first be gathered as the people of covenant and they are the ones to teach you all the truth. Am not talking about the fake Isreal. Check verse 14 in the pic, when he comes he will reveal all things hidden from you all. All you have today are the lies your enemies sold to you. These is why I tell you ppl to wait. The truth will shock the world. Shine your eyes

cut him off like Daniel said). He will not die

Answer

This has been accomplished in the life of Jesus they cut him off he came back to life

You don't know Jesus life is what they saw Daniel and old testament

Read the book of Daniel, Prophets and Revelations.

Answer

How can you mention revelation when it Jesus that gave it to John

Yet you say you don't believe in Jesus is that not confusion lol

Wake up to reality my friend and read the bible and cry to Jesus to help you rather than saying blasphemy

Ok

bobestman:
You are still stuck in Churchian deception and confusion. Have told you their no one named Jesus. Jesus is not the one who gave anyone called John that book. All those are fabricated names your enemies who brought the book to you added. The first transliteration of the Bible was in 1611. There is nothing like God or Jesus in that book. Like after 30yrs later was when thieves who translated the book again added those names. The most annoying thing is that the name Jesus they gave the true Messiah has no meaning. Its not even equilavalent to the name in Greek which is IESOUS. The ppl who gave you that name gave you their own personal person who was on earth then. Spirits are acting thru that name to decieve you Christian. You ppl are guilty of idolatry by calling the Creator and his Son a vain name. The day you see the thing acting thru that name, your eyes go clear.

You see how gullible you Christians are? Things the Prophets wrote to you are prophesies. Many of them are to be fulfilled in the future when the Messiah returns and gather his people. If you read the entire verse or more you will understand. Also there had been different eras. At the end of every era, the wicked will be sent out with a flood or fire just like in the days of Noah and Sodom and Gomorrah. The remaining righteous people will begin a new world. There are books just like your Bible that they follow to live right in those eras. Now we are in the 7th era, the 7th Priesthood of Adama if you know what that means. Which is written as the Last Trump in the NT. And do you know why it is called the Last Trump? Cos their had been similar Trump's and this one is the last and final when all will be judged. Many of you Christians don't know this. Every era had their Prieshood not Church or Christians. These days, the Priesthood includes every religious body using the Words of the Creator to do evil including you Christians. Check the pic below to see how all of them will fail when the true Messiah, the true Priest comes. Put this at the back of your mind, the true Messiah know not any Church or Christians and his name was never Jesus. All were lies your head which is the mother Church all of you came from sold to you all (Roman Catholic). Those who are for the true Messiah no him and hear him. It has nothing to do with church or religion or Jesus. If I tell you how the word Church came, you will weep.

Those prophecies were for the future. Many are not fulfilled. Some will be fulfilled again. The vision was hijacked by thieves when they killed the true Messiah. They also killed all his disciples before they whitewashed the whole stories. Many things you read today are infested with lies. Those lies will be exposed like many of us are telling you today and then religion must die before the truth is revealed to the world.

If you are a wise man, you would have learnt a lot from these but you will still refuse cos your mind is made up with the lies they sold to you in those entertainment Centres. Many of us were like you people. And we know what it is like to come out from that contraption called church. I don tell you

If Jesus appears to you now and tells you he is God will you eventually believe him

Bishopkingsley:
If Jesus appears to you now and tells you he is God will you eventually believe him

The impostor only appears to gullible people like you. Wake up from your nap man!

bobestman:
The impostor only appears to gullible people like you. Wake up from your nap man!

That is not the question I asked you

Bishopkingsley:
That is not the question I asked you

The perfect answer is what I gave you. Only gullible people see an impostor. Follow what you believe and stop asking people to accept an Impostor as their saviour.
Do have a nice day

bobestman:
The perfect answer is what I gave you. Only gullible people see an impostor. Follow what you believe and stop asking people to accept an Impostor as their saviour.
Do have a nice day

Now there are two side to all things

1)
Now let assume you are correct
The question is who is the one who is going to save mankind

2)
Now let assume Amy correct
The question is will you believe Jesus if he shows you himself

Bishopkingsley:
Now there are two side to all things

1)
Now let assume you are correct
The question is who is the one who is going to save mankind

2)
Now let assume Amy correct
The question is will you believe Jesus if he shows you himself

So I am just wasting my time telling you all these things? I don't impose what I teach on people or tell them to follow me. It's a free world. Follow what you believe or what works for you. When the time for Refreshing comes, you will understand.

bobestman:
So I am just wasting my time telling you all these things? I don't impose what I teach on people or tell them to follow me. It's a free world. Follow what you believe or what works for you. When the time for Refreshing comes, you will understand.

When you understand that God can show you himself then you will understand who you worship

As long as you keep fighting to understand this things you won't be humble to see God

Bishopkingsley:
When you understand that God can show you himself then you will understand who you worship

As long as you keep fighting to understand this things you won't be humble to see God

God appears to you? You see Jesus too. All are apparitions decieving you. Wait for the truth and you will be shocked. Those names are false names given to you by Europeans. No one bears such above. It's high time I leave you in your delusion. The Creator is an entity and a spirit not what you can see. Have revealed a lot of things to you but you still don't understand. Keep sleeping.

bobestman:
God appears to you? You see Jesus too. All are apparitions decieving you. Wait for the truth and you will be shocked. Those names are false names given to you by Europeans. No one bears such above. It's high time I leave you in your delusion. The Creator is an entity and a spirit not what you can see. Have revealed a lot of things to you but you still don't understand. Keep sleeping.

Angels are spirit yet you can see them only when God opens your eyes You don't know what you actually say

You can see God of course it Jesus you will see when you want to see God

God does not have only one name he has many names you are just focusing on a particular name which is wrong

God created language it will be unfair if the meaning of God or Jesus is not in those languages he made

Open your heart to Jesus and receive Jesus

Bishopkingsley:
Angels are spirit yet you can see them only when God opens your eyes You don't know what you actually say

You can see God of course it Jesus you will see when you want to see God

God does not have only one name he has many names you are just focusing on a particular name which is wrong

God created language it will be unfair if the meaning of God or Jesus is not in those languages he made

Open your heart to Jesus and receive Jesus

You are not learning anything here. I feel like deleting everything I wrote here. You are still bragging when you are in deep delusion. I won't reply you again.

bobestman:
You are not learning anything here. I feel like deleting everything I wrote here. You are still bragging when you are in deep delusion. I won't reply you again.

Brother you are free to refuse Jesus our job is to declare him those who refuse and have unbelieve in them will be left out

Those chosen will hear his voice and follow him do what you want God bless you

22jumpstreet:
Why can't you do blood ritual like yahoo plus guys ?

devil can't give you anything for free so one day he will take the person you love so blood money is nonsense.

Betscoreodds:
devil can't give you anything for free so one day he will take the person you love so blood money is nonsense.

Lol....who be devil?

FYI the devil , the so called ruler of darkness is just the moon.

Bishopkingsley:
Adam sin and died

So God had to come down to take the death of Adam so that Adam and all human can be able to come back to life rather than going to hell

Lol...how do you even believe what you wrote ? Or typed?

22jumpstreet:
Lol...how do you even believe what you wrote ? Or typed?

You don't even believe in devil
Saying there is no supernatural God too wow

Bishopkingsley:
You don't even believe in devil
Saying there is no supernatural God too wow

Devil is just a personification of darkness. Sometimes symbolized by the moon or a black goat....there is nothing evil of it.

He does whatever God tells it to do...he can't change the will of God....

Whatever happens, happens because it is the will of God whether good or evil, comprende ??

22jumpstreet:
Devil is just a personification of darkness. Sometimes symbolized by the moon or a black goat....there is nothing evil of it.

He does whatever God tells it to do...he can't change the will of God....

Whatever happens, happens because it is the will of God whether good or evil, comprende ??

He does whatever God tells it to do...he can't change the will of God.


Answer
not like that there is a devil,
God has good will
Acceptable will
Perfect will

What happened to Adam and eve Is not the perfect will of God because he is God he is not afraid to change any circumstances, those who have free will can do what is not God's perfect will


The devil is not it rather he

Bishopkingsley:
He does whatever God tells it to do...he can't change the will of God.


Answer
not like that there is a devil,
God has good will
Acceptable will
Perfect will

What happened to Adam and eve Is not the perfect will of God because he is God he is not afraid to change any circumstances, those who have free will can do what is not God's perfect will


The devil is not it rather he

It is God that determines everything...whatever is the will of God is what is will happen. ...

God is responsible for both good and evil...

22jumpstreet:
It is God that determines everything...whatever is the will of God is what is will happen. ...

God is responsible for both good and evil...

No. Scripture says that when God finished His creation, He saw everything and declared it "very good" (Genesis 1:31). Many Scriptures affirm that God is not the author of evil: "God cannot be tempted by evil, and He Himself does not tempt anyone" (James 1:13). "God is light, and in Him there is no darkness at all" (1 John 1:5). "God is not the author of confusion" (1 Corinthians 14:33)—and if that is true, He cannot in any way be the author of evil.

Occasionally someone will quote Isaiah 45:7 (KJV) and claim it proves God made evil as a part of His creation: "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things" (emphasis added).

But the New American Standard Bible gives the sense of Isaiah 45:6-7 more clearly: "There is no one besides Me. I am the Lord, and there is no other, the One forming light and creating darkness, causing well-being and creating calamity; I am the Lord who does all these." In other words, God devises calamity as a judgment for the wicked. But in no sense is He the author of evil, or responsible for evil.

Betscoreodds:
No. Scripture says that when God finished His creation, He saw everything and declared it "very good" (Genesis 1:31). Many Scriptures affirm that God is not the author of evil: "God cannot be tempted by evil, and He Himself does not tempt anyone" (James 1:13). "God is light, and in Him there is no darkness at all" (1 John 1:5). "God is not the author of confusion" (1 Corinthians 14:33)—and if that is true, He cannot in any way be the author of evil.

Occasionally someone will quote Isaiah 45:7 (KJV) and claim it proves God made evil as a part of His creation: "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things" (emphasis added).

But the New American Standard Bible gives the sense of Isaiah 45:6-7 more clearly: "There is no one besides Me. I am the Lord, and there is no other, the One forming light and creating darkness, causing well-being and creating calamity; I am the Lord who does all these." In other words, God devises calamity as a judgment for the wicked. But in no sense is He the author of evil, or responsible for evil.

What is calamity ? Give examples

What is evil? Give examples..

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22jumpstreet:
What is calamity ? Give examples

What is evil? Give examples..

I on purpose left out the complete explanation of the thing we were talking about just to see what your actual idea is all about. Immediately you proved to me that you point even evil as God been in charge of it,which is wrong.

Some look at God as the one in charge of evil too just as you want to point out.

That is not how God actually wants us to see him he wants us to see him as the one who has a solution to the problem we created by our powerful free will which he gave us rather than blame him for even giving us the free will.

Evil originates not from God but from the fallen creature..... It is helpful, I think, to understand that sin is not itself a thing created. Sin is neither substance, being, spirit, nor matter. So it is technically not proper to think of sin as something that was created. Sin is simply a lack of moral perfection in a fallen creature. Fallen creatures themselves bear full responsibility for their sin. And all evil in the universe emanates from the sins of fallen creatures.

For example, Romans 5:12 says that death entered the world because of sin. Death, pain, disease, stress, exhaustion, calamity, and all the bad things that happen came as a result of the entrance of sin into the universe (see Genesis 3:14-24). All those evil effects of sin continue to work in the world and will be with us as long as sin is.

First Corinthians 10:13 promises us that God will not permit a greater trial than we can bear. And James 1:13 tells us that God will not tempt us with evil.

God is certainly sovereign over evil. There's a sense in which it is proper even to say that evil is part of His eternal decree but not from God . He planned for it. It did not take Him by surprise. It is not an interruption of His eternal plan, it equally not his perfect will. He declared the end from the beginning, and He is still working all things for His good pleasure (Isaiah 46:9-10).

But God's role with regard to evil is never as its author. He simply permits evil agents to work, then overrules evil for His own wise and holy ends. Ultimately He is able to make all things-including all the fruits of all the evil of all time-work together for a greater good (Romans 8:28).

Betscoreodds:
I on purpose left out the complete explanation of the thing we were talking about just to see what your actual idea is all about. Immediately you proved to me that you point even evil as God been in charge of it,which is wrong.

Some look at God as the one in charge of evil too just as you want to point out.

That is not how God actually wants us to see him he wants us to see him as the one who has a solution to the problem we created by our powerful free will which he gave us rather than blame him for even giving us the free will.

Evil originates not from God but from the fallen creature..... It is helpful, I think, to understand that sin is not itself a thing created. Sin is neither substance, being, spirit, nor matter. So it is technically not proper to think of sin as something that was created. Sin is simply a lack of moral perfection in a fallen creature. Fallen creatures themselves bear full responsibility for their sin. And all evil in the universe emanates from the sins of fallen creatures.

For example, Romans 5:12 says that death entered the world because of sin. Death, pain, disease, stress, exhaustion, calamity, and all the bad things that happen came as a result of the entrance of sin into the universe (see Genesis 3:14-24). All those evil effects of sin continue to work in the world and will be with us as long as sin is.

First Corinthians 10:13 promises us that God will not permit a greater trial than we can bear. And James 1:13 tells us that God will not tempt us with evil.

God is certainly sovereign over evil. There's a sense in which it is proper even to say that evil is part of His eternal decree but not from God . He planned for it. It did not take Him by surprise. It is not an interruption of His eternal plan, it equally not his perfect will. He declared the end from the beginning, and He is still working all things for His good pleasure (Isaiah 46:9-10).

But God's role with regard to evil is never as its author. He simply permits evil agents to work, then overrules evil for His own wise and holy ends. Ultimately He is able to make all things-including all the fruits of all the evil of all time-work together for a greater good (Romans 8:28).

I don't want this long essay you are writing. What is evil and what is calamity, give examples...5 lines is sufficient.

Betscoreodds:
I on purpose left out the complete explanation of the thing we were talking about just to see what your actual idea is all about. Immediately you proved to me that you point even evil as God been in charge of it,which is wrong.

Some look at God as the one in charge of evil too just as you want to point out.

That is not how God actually wants us to see him he wants us to see him as the one who has a solution to the problem we created by our powerful free will which he gave us rather than blame him for even giving us the free will.

Evil originates not from God but from the fallen creature..... It is helpful, I think, to understand that sin is not itself a thing created. Sin is neither substance, being, spirit, nor matter. So it is technically not proper to think of sin as something that was created. Sin is simply a lack of moral perfection in a fallen creature. Fallen creatures themselves bear full responsibility for their sin. And all evil in the universe emanates from the sins of fallen creatures.

For example, Romans 5:12 says that death entered the world because of sin. Death, pain, disease, stress, exhaustion, calamity, and all the bad things that happen came as a result of the entrance of sin into the universe (see Genesis 3:14-24). All those evil effects of sin continue to work in the world and will be with us as long as sin is.

First Corinthians 10:13 promises us that God will not permit a greater trial than we can bear. And James 1:13 tells us that God will not tempt us with evil.

God is certainly sovereign over evil. There's a sense in which it is proper even to say that evil is part of His eternal decree but not from God . He planned for it. It did not take Him by surprise. It is not an interruption of His eternal plan, it equally not his perfect will. He declared the end from the beginning, and He is still working all things for His good pleasure (Isaiah 46:9-10).

But God's role with regard to evil is never as its author. He simply permits evil agents to work, then overrules evil for His own wise and holy ends. Ultimately He is able to make all things-including all the fruits of all the evil of all time-work together for a greater good (Romans 8:28).

Don't you think it is the "fallen creatures " prerogative to atone for his mistakes if he has a change of heart?