₦airaland Forum

BiafraInc:
Don't sound dumb. When has ethnicity ever been included in your nigeria census forms? You want to leave reality to hope on hopelessness? You need data to determine the population of Igbos and their guests in Igbo people's land? What arrant nonsense.

YES you use data to find out information if we don't have data then that's a problem

See even Ukpuru says the same of the Aboh People

Abohboy:
YES you use data to find out information if we don't have data then that's a problem

Stop sounding stupid. You only need datta to find out the exact numbers of both, but not when you want to compare who are most in number.
Bini migrants are few in Aboh when compare to Igbos who are the owners of the land. Don't tell me you need data to find out about that.

BiafraInc:
Stop sounding stupid. You only need datta to find out the exact numbers of both, but not when you want to compare who are most in number.
Bini migrants are few in Aboh when compare to Igbos who are the owners of the land. Don't tell me you need data to find out about that.

I did my research and I agree with you the Ndokwa people in Aboh are predominantly Igbo there are only a few Bini people within the kingdom

Abohboy:
Nope some were conquered or assimilated into larger kingdoms the Nri took over more areas around them and the Aro took over lots of land such as those of the Ohafia and Edda

are you kidding?
the aros never took land belonging to the ohafia biko

Devgru:
are you kidding?
the aros never took land belonging to the ohafia biko

They used the Ohafia to conquer other lands so I assumed they had to conquer the people in order to use them in wars or am I mistaken

Abohboy:
They used the Ohafia to conquer other lands so I assumed they had to conquer the people in order to use them in wars or am I mistaken

they were allies in the in the aro conferedracy. nobody conquered the ohafia in war

Devgru:
they were allies in the in the aro conferedracy. nobody conquered the ohafia in war

That's iinteresting I guess you learn something new everyday

Admissionclass:
Abohs were the first people to be called igbos (Eboes)

When there are towns named "Akwukwu-Igbo" and "Igbo-Ụzọ"
Don't allow these Bini people to use your brain for their own benefits.
Open your eyes. That's how Ikwerre used and rubbished Ndigbo because of people like you

BKayy:
When there are towns named "Akwukwu-Igbo" and "Igbo-Ụzọ"
Don't allow these Bini people to use your brain for their own benefits.
Open your eyes. That's how Ikwerre used and rubbished Ndigbo because of people like you

Guy it's clear you have PTSD from some event long ago please heal

BKayy:
From your statement "Before the British expanded Onitsha"
I can deduce that the aim of this your lies is to throw your Shameless tentacles on Innocent Ndigbo minding their business.
Probably to make your Aboh people hit limelight by insulting Ndigbo like your colleagues Ikwerre and Ika have done successfully.
But let me burst your bubble "Ndigbo have changed"
Any attempt to iberibe on this thread will be met with more Shameless iberibe.

See his mouth "Before the British expanded Onitsha" as if Aboh is not the first recorded Igbo Community (When they were Igbo) to fall to Britain Shameless and declared a province when others were still fighting.

i wish to see u face to face one day. U deserved better. Kuddos to ur good work here. With u here no shaking. Seun and his crew can hang themself.

Abohboy:
See even Ukpuru says the same of the Aboh People

You people should read this and stop barking mad especially you Bkayy

onlyson16:
i wish to see u face to face one day. U deserved better. Kuddos to ur good work here. With u here no shaking. Seun and his crew can hang themself.

smh there's no hope for unity is there. Simply reviving the trade route of the Niger River, rejuvenating towns and cities to become industrial trading hubs, opening up the river for fishing and uniting the south politically to challenge the north is now seen as some sort of evil

Hmmm

Abohboy:
It's not originally Ijaw based off of my research on the Lower Niger at the time thr Ijaw were simply salt makers and fishers not really concerned with war canoes unless it was an inter tribal thing it was the Igala and Aboh people that owned large war canoes able to fit 80+ people and armed with cannon and sophisticated guns this is why they were able to control trade all the way from ijaw land up to the confluence and beyond because of how strong their navy was.


I'm not exactly sure of how the tradition started but I know till this day in my village we still have these displays with our large canoes and our traditional war dances and songs along the Niger River

This is massive. Thanks.

AfricanColumbus:
This is massive. Thanks.

No problem it's my pleasure but it must be remembered that the Ijaw did own war canoes that were quite large just that they were not as well equipped or as powerful as those of other groups.

Abohboy:
No problem it's my pleasure but it must be remembered that the Ijaw did own war canoes that were quite large just that they were not as well equipped or as powerful as those of other groups.

The existence of war canoes amongst Igbo groups without Ijaw influence is rarely mentioned. That would suggest there may be need for a crosscheck.

Any chance this is related to the war canoes of southernmost Igboland?

AfricanColumbus:
The existence of war canoes amongst Igbo groups without Ijaw influence is rarely mentioned. That would suggest there may be need for a crosscheck.

Any chance this is related to the war canoes of southernmost Igboland?

Yes this is related to the southernmost groups like Ukwuani, Ndokwa, Anioma, Ndoni etc. But seems they improved on whatever the Ijaw showed them because they were able to take other the Niger River and control all trade up and down the stretch from the confluence and below

Abohboy:
Yes that's true but they also have bini blood in them so it's a mix

There's no single Bini blood in Ndokwa. The recorded and traceable tribes with footprint in Ndokwa is Igala and Urhobo/Isoko. You will notice through some name similarities between Ndokwa and Igala. The Urhobo/Isoko influence is undeniable. Mind you the influence is both ways but you will hardly see these other groups highlighting the presence of Igbos in their ancestry. I wonder why some of you do so.

Fejoku:
There's no single Bini blood in Ndokwa. The recorded and traceable tribes with footprint in Ndokwa is Igala and Urhobo/Isoko. You will notice through some name similarities between Ndokwa and Igala. The Urhobo/Isoko influence is undeniable. Mind you the influence is both ways but you will hardly see these other groups highlighting the presence of Igbos in their ancestry. I wonder why some of you do so.

I'm pretty sure there's some bini blood but I agree with the Urhobo/Isoko aspect because my dad is Ndokwa from Aboh but he gave my brother an Isoko name saying it was one of the languages that his father spoke to him as well as Ndokwa and Ukwuani

Abohboy:
Nope some were conquered or assimilated into larger kingdoms the Nri took over more areas around them and the Aro took over lots of land such as those of the Ohafia and Edda

Nri did not take over anybody.

SlayerForever:
Nri did not take over anybody.

I said assimilated not take over, they willingly joined because they agreed with the ideology of the Nri that's why the Nri were the largest igbo kingdom and the most renowned

Abohboy:
Yes this is related to the southernmost groups like Ukwuani, Ndokwa, Anioma, Ndoni etc. But seems they improved on whatever the Ijaw showed them because they were able to take other the Niger River and control all trade up and down the stretch from the confluence and below

I was talking of Ubani(Bonny), but anyways, do you have any modern pictures of this war canoes of Aboh?

AfricanColumbus:
I was talking of Ubani(Bonny), but anyways, do you have any modern pictures of this war canoes of Aboh?

They stopped making the massive boats as the importance of the city declined and as the amount of trade going in and out reduced there was no reason for them to maintain the consturction of large boats. So there are only smaller boats used at festivals and a few british pictures

Abohboy:
They stopped making the massive boats as the importance of the city declined and as the amount of trade going in and out reduced there was no reason for them to maintain the consturction of large boats. So there are only smaller boats used at festivals and a few british pictures

Interesting. This is a very very nice picture. Any more available?

But then, how can one tell it's not from the Okoloma Ndoki (Bonny) area.

AfricanColumbus:
Interesting. This is a very very nice picture. Any more available?

But then, how can one tell it's not from the Okoloma Ndoki (Bonny) area.

There aren't many of the old ones I only have one more when it comes to the new ones you can tell by the masquerades used and seen on the boats as well as the hats worn I can bring a video of the Aboh cultural festivals and you can see that water procession on large boats is a massive part of these celebrations

Abohboy:
There aren't many of the old ones I only have one more when it comes to the new ones you can tell by the masquerades used and seen on the boats as well as the hats worn I can bring a video of the Aboh cultural festivals and you can see that water procession on large boats is a massive part of these celebrations

A video would be excellent. Thank you.

AfricanColumbus:
A video would be excellent. Thank you.

I'll post the link tomorrow morning when I find the video again

Abohboy:
smh there's no hope for unity is there. Simply reviving the trade route of the Niger River, rejuvenating towns and cities to become industrial trading hubs, opening up the river for fishing and uniting the south politically to challenge the north is now seen as some sort of evil

Reviving a thread route on the River Niger, and your first target is aboh instead of Onitsha that has a booming economy and actually needs the seaport the most?

Fejoku:
There's no single Bini blood in Ndokwa. The recorded and traceable tribes with footprint in Ndokwa is Igala and Urhobo/Isoko. You will notice through some name similarities between Ndokwa and Igala. The Urhobo/Isoko influence is undeniable. Mind you the influence is both ways but you will hardly see these other groups highlighting the presence of Igbos in their ancestry. I wonder why some of you do so.

Inferiority complex and somehow to feel important. He's trying to align with the Igbo heartland now because he feels he needs them, that's why this history class. I mean his people knew all these but denied being Igbo because of what?

Abohboy:
smh there's no hope for unity is there. Simply reviving the trade route of the Niger River, rejuvenating towns and cities to become industrial trading hubs, opening up the river for fishing and uniting the south politically to challenge the north is now seen as some sort of evil

challenge the north?? So you won't educate them again?