₦airaland Forum

Abohboy:
The fact that they had to attribute it to someone different and the fact that it's source is a white supremacist group I would almost indefinitely say what was written there is wrong without a second thought

Let me get your view right. So you are saying if say Abubakar Shakau ( of Bokoharam) comes out and say something like ' The Nigerian Economy is suffering from inflation, even the value of the Naira to the dollar is now at an all time low of 450 to a dollar'.

Your respond would be something like " Coming from someone who has helped destabilise some segments of the country through war and without degree in economics, this statement is not correct".

Would the above response be ideal?. Is it not more prudent to for example produce say official exchange rate of the CBN for example that shows that Naira to Dollar is 1: 100. Or evidence of even say something like a black market exchange done that showed it is 1:120.

The focus here is on the facts presented and not necessarily the person presenting them because they are themselves in my view, verifiable facts. In my opinion, the Message and Not the Messenger should be the focus of discussion on the topic. Thanks.

juri:
Let me get your view right. So you are saying if say Abubakar Shakau ( of Bokoharam) comes out and say something like ' The Nigerian Economy is suffering from inflation, even the value of the Naira to the dollar is now at an all time low of 450 to a dollar'.

Your respond would be something like " Coming from someone who has helped destabilise some segments of the country through war and without degree in economics, this statement is not correct".

Would the above response be ideal?. Is it not more prudent to for example produce say official exchange rate of the CBN for example that shows that Naira to Dollar is 1: 100. Or evidence of even say something like a black market exchange done that showed it is 1:120.

The focus here is on the facts presented and not necessarily the person presenting them because they are themselves in my view, verifiable facts. In my opinion, the Message and Not the Messenger should be the focus of discussion on the topic. Thanks.

How is that analogy even close to my point? There's a white supremacy group that despises a people group that being muslims so they would obviously make fake news in order to get more people to hate people who practise Islam

Shekau on the otherhand only hates the system imposed on Nigerians so he wouldn't spread fake news unless to destabilize the government or the army.

So your point is stupid and makes no sense

This Cancer........

Abohboy:
How is that analogy even close to my point? There's a white supremacy group that despises a people group that being muslims so they would obviously make fake news in order to get more people to hate people who practise Islam

Shekau on the otherhand only hates the system imposed on Nigerians so he wouldn't spread fake news unless to destabilize the government or the army.

So your point is stupid and makes no sense

I would want to believe decency in a dialogue or discussion entails you can state your views without insults or inappropriate language.

The point I am trying to make and which any objective minded person can relate to is that you can not just dismiss someone's views or warnings simply because the person is a 'racist'. Even the devil tells the truth once in a while. If you said what he said or some of the things he or whoever said them are/is not true, how are they not true.

For example he said

1. "Very few people were true Nazis, but many enjoyed the return of German pride the Nazis brought to the German nation, and many more were too busy to care. I was one of those who just thought the Nazis were a bunch of fools. So, the majority just sat back and let it all happen. Then, before we knew it, the Nazis were in control of the nation, they owned us, and we had lost control. Suddenly they plunged the country into a devastating and costly world war, and by the end of the war we had woken up to a new reality - our world of comfort, peace and freedom had come to an end.". If this is not true, tell us how it is not true and not just simply saying the statement did not come from him or that he is a racist. The focus is on the message passed.

Similarly, he said:

2. "Communist Russia was comprised of Russians who just wanted to live in peace, yet the Russian Communists were responsible for the murder of about 20 million people. The peaceful majority were irrelevant.
China's huge population was peaceful as well, but Chinese Communists managed to kill a staggering 70 million people."

"The average Japanese individual, prior to World War II, was not a warmongering sadist. Yet, Japan murdered and slaughtered its way across South East Asia in an orgy of killing that included the systematic murder of 12 million Chinese civilians, most killed by sword, shovel, and bayonet."

"And who can forget Rwanda, which collapsed into butchery. Could it not be said that the majority of Rwandans were 'peace loving'?".

If these facts are not true, tell us how are they not true, because like I said before, in my opinion, these are verifiable facts because they are relatively modern history.

You can not just say what was said is not true because the person who said them was a racist or that he never said them. Don't forget that even that racist label is even your opinion of him. But my focus really is on the issues raised in the write up. If they are not true as you claimed, tell us how. The focus as a I have said should be the facts raised or contained in the message. Thanks.