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Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by jpmoriarti(m): 7:47am On Sep 03, 2021
UNCL3:

Ok, despite not being a fan of Pjanic, I need support him here.

How many matches was he featured in? You think everyone can do goals and assist like Puig with very little minutes, in maybe 4 games for a whole season?

Baba Pjanic is slightly below average... But give the dude some break abeg.
He had opportunities at one time but he had nothing to offer. He played 30 times. Starting 13 of them. But he had nothing to offer. Koeman then disregarded him. He was a decent midfielder at Juve. I really didn’t know why he completely got lost at Barca. lipsrsealed

I remember some presentable chances he had to notch a goal or two but he blazed his effort over the crossbar like someone who lost their sights. sad
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by jpmoriarti(m): 7:55am On Sep 03, 2021
UNCL3:

How many games did Pedri featured for Barca?
And how many goals did he score in them?

Pedri has also missed some crucial goals at some points too, but still gets more and more time.

So please don't use that as the yardstick.
Pedri is an 18yr old kid while Pjanic is a 30 yr old seasoned professional. Please don't even compare both of them.

Pedri went to the euros and featured in the team of the tournament without goal and assist. But everyone knew he had a tremendous success in that competition.

Of course, it is not always about the goal and assist. But Pjanic offered nothing angry
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by jpmoriarti(m): 8:45am On Sep 03, 2021
UNCL3:


It's not about the goals and assist when it comes to Pedri
But it is when it's Pjanic.

Smh.
There is a performance someone will give, u know they had a good game. It is not always about goal and assist. But across 31 matches Pjanic played for Barca, I can't remember him having any memorable performance. No goal or assist to show for all these opportunities.

Pedri had goals and assists across alot of competitions he played. And he is just 18yrs. So I cut him some slack. But i wont cut the same slack for a 30 yr old, who should know more and give more. Experience matters. That's why in workplaces, people with more experiences are paid more because more is expected of them.

We expected more from Pjanic but he gave nothing. He flattered to decieve. sad

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Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by obainojazz(m): 10:14am On Sep 03, 2021
cool

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Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by FirstbornWds: 10:27am On Sep 03, 2021
Awesome01:
As at now 11:13pm Nigerian time, I checked in to see my mentions before I go to sleep, found out I have none, scrolled down and found only 2 people viewing this thread, I and a troll.

Does this guy do any other thing or at least visit any other threads apart from camping here day and night?

Lol.... It is what it is, you know.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by jpmoriarti(m): 11:21am On Sep 03, 2021
Awesome01:


What Who hacked @jp's account? I'm finding it's hard to believe you typed this. Surprised you are being objective about Koeman's ill-treatment of Piug.

Or was this just another scheme of sarcasm?
Nobody fit hack my account, guy.

I like Puig but not too much. However, I am coming from an angle of getting the best out of everyone we have now. Messi is long gone. So Koeman will be shooting himself in the foot if he continues to leave out a certain people under the guise that he cannot have space for everyone.

Our squad is bereft of legends and hero right now. Anyone can rise up to seize that title for himself. It can even be Puig. So he has to have chances to play to prove himself. I am hoping Koeman understands this, so people judging him will only concentrate on his on-field decisions and tactics. His man-management must be topnotch right now, so he can get the best out of the players we have.

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Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by ddippset(m): 11:37am On Sep 03, 2021
obainojazz:
cool
He's happy and his fans are happy....
but trust me he and his fans want the 2021 Ballon dor more.

Trust me!

grin grin grin

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Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by jpmoriarti(m): 12:37pm On Sep 03, 2021
Emerson was very disappointed at leaving Barca. I understand his frustration. Me too I was very disappointed. He's one of few players I liked in Laliga last season. Was really hoping he can show us what he can do for us. But the club is just in selling mood.

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Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Awesome01(m): 1:00pm On Sep 03, 2021
jpmoriarti:
Nobody fit hack my account, guy.

I like Puig but not too much. However, I am coming from an angle of getting the best out of everyone we have now. Messi is long gone. So Koeman will be shooting himself in the foot if he continues to leave out a certain people under the guise that he cannot have space for everyone.

Our squad is bereft of legends and hero right now. Anyone can rise up to seize that title for himself. It can even be Puig. So he has to have chances to play to prove himself. I am hoping Koeman understands this, so people judging him will only concentrate on his on-field decisions and tactics. His man-management must be topnotch right now, so he can get the best out of the players we have.

Well said. Saw your point.

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Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by FirstbornWds: 2:51pm On Sep 03, 2021
jpmoriarti:
Nobody fit hack my account, guy.

I like Puig but not too much. However, I am coming from an angle of getting the best out of everyone we have now. Messi is long gone. So Koeman will be shooting himself in the foot if he continues to leave out a certain people under the guise that he cannot have space for everyone.

Our squad is bereft of legends and hero right now. Anyone can rise up to seize that title for himself. It can even be Puig. So he has to have chances to play to prove himself. I am hoping Koeman understands this, so people judging him will only concentrate on his on-field decisions and tactics. His man-management must be topnotch right now, so he can get the best out of the players we have.

Omoh... I am so happy reading this from you

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Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Kilishihunter: 8:57pm On Sep 03, 2021
Awesome01:
As at now 11:13pm Nigerian time, I checked in to see my mentions before I go to sleep, found out I have none, scrolled down and found only 2 people viewing this thread, I and a troll.

Does this guy do any other thing or at least visit any other threads apart from camping here day and night?
Haba bro, have you forgotten?
Mes que un club grin

Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Kilishihunter: 9:04pm On Sep 03, 2021
jpmoriarti:
Nobody fit hack my account, guy.

I like Puig but not too much. However, I am coming from an angle of getting the best out of everyone we have now. Messi is long gone. So Koeman will be shooting himself in the foot if he continues to leave out a certain people under the guise that he cannot have space for everyone.

Our squad is bereft of legends and hero right now. Anyone can rise up to seize that title for himself. It can even be Puig. So he has to have chances to play to prove himself. I am hoping Koeman understands this, so people judging him will only concentrate on his on-field decisions and tactics. His man-management must be topnotch right now, so he can get the best out of the players we have.
Not just puig, collado or any body who's capable, The key is if a player is talented and has shown he can contribute his quota to the advancement of the team, let him have his say on the pitch, Reason why griezscamm, Umtiti, coutinho and others were slandered on this board, if they put up reasonable performances, only few people would chat shit, Great comment especially knowing it's coming from you
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Kilishihunter: 9:08pm On Sep 03, 2021
obainojazz:
cool
Congrats to him and his fans,
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Nobody: 9:20pm On Sep 03, 2021
I know say Mr Multiple-Accounts must go chook head for that coward’s post, anyway I’m surprised he didn’t “like” his post with his multiple accounts
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by jpmoriarti(m): 9:41pm On Sep 03, 2021
devvy44:
I know say Mr Multiple-Accounts must go chook head for that coward’s post, anyway I’m surprised he didn’t “like” his post with his multiple accounts
Not a sin to own a multiple account, guy.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by jpmoriarti(m): 10:41pm On Sep 03, 2021
Miralem Pjanic: "Ronald Koeman has disrespected me. He put the cross on me from the beginning. I wish he would have told me to my face what he wanted from me, but he never did. He's a very strange coach. It's the first time I've seen such a management."

grin grin this one never see anything smiley

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Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by joviegghead: 12:31am On Sep 04, 2021
jpmoriarti:
Miralem Pjanic: "Ronald Koeman has disrespected me. He put the cross on me from the beginning. I wish he would have told me to my face what he wanted from me, but he never did. He's a very strange coach. It's the first time I've seen such a management."

grin grin this one never see anything smiley

He's right and I feel pity for him. He was a key player at juve. He came to barca and became something close to a non entity.

I think he's one of those players that need lot of game time before hitting peak performance. Koeman never gave him that.

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Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by homesteady(m): 1:27am On Sep 04, 2021
jpmoriarti:
Miralem Pjanic: "Ronald Koeman has disrespected me. He put the cross on me from the beginning. I wish he would have told me to my face what he wanted from me, but he never did. He's a very strange coach. It's the first time I've seen such a management."

grin grin this one never see anything smiley

Rest of the interview
https://twitter.com/BarcaTimes/status/1433920688079966211?s=19

A good coach should be technically sound and good at man management. Man management is very important because it can to an extent cover up for technical deficiencies.
We have a Coach who is lacking in both departments. Keoman is a childish, proud and wicked Agbaya.

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Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Sommyroy10: 7:06am On Sep 04, 2021
jpmoriarti:
Miralem Pjanic: "Ronald Koeman has disrespected me. He put the cross on me from the beginning. I wish he would have told me to my face what he wanted from me, but he never did. He's a very strange coach. It's the first time I've seen such a management."

grin grin this one never see anything smiley
�| Pjanic: “I would have preferred to be told things directly, but that’s the way it is. It has been a very strange way of communicating, it is the first time. I don’t know what happened.”

�| Pjanic: “Regret signing with Barça? No, never. In life things that have to happen, happen, I have fought all my life and my career, I am very ambitious, very competitive.”

�| Pjanic: “I have reached the level of Juventus and Barça. I know that I can play for this team, they just haven’t given me the chance to compete, to join a group, to help more.”

�| Pjanic: “I have never talked about these things, but I think it is important to know what I have really gone through. I accept everything and it is okay...I will fight until the end for myself because I know what I can give.”

�| Pjanic: “I’m a player who is willing to sacrifice and I always accept the coach’s decision because that’s how I was taught. I agreed to lower my salary and join Besiktas because I love playing.”

�| Pjanic: “Right now, today, I don’t know what he(Koeman) wanted exactly. He didn’t try to explain things to me. I would go to ask him what he wanted from me, positionally or what I was doing well or badly. I wanted to adapt as quickly as possible to the team and be useful.”

You started the season by playing in the UCL, but not in LaLiga Santander. You had no continuity. why?

�| Pjanic: “Everyone asks me that, they want to know. But so do I, I want to know. He never told me or asked if I wanted to play as a two or in front of the defence.”

�| Pjanic: “In a season at the end you need 17-18 players to win titles. Koeman didn’t give me answers. Time had passed, the situation was getting worse, but for no reason.”

�| Pjanic: “I’m not the only man who has suffered from this condition. If you look closely you will see that there are more players. I do not want to speak on their behalf, but they can do it.”

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Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Awesome01(m): 8:46am On Sep 04, 2021
Sommyroy10:
�| Pjanic: “I would have preferred to be told things directly, but that’s the way it is. It has been a very strange way of communicating, it is the first time. I don’t know what happened.”

�| Pjanic: “Regret signing with Barça? No, never. In life things that have to happen, happen, I have fought all my life and my career, I am very ambitious, very competitive.”

�| Pjanic: “I have reached the level of Juventus and Barça. I know that I can play for this team, they just haven’t given me the chance to compete, to join a group, to help more.”

�| Pjanic: “I have never talked about these things, but I think it is important to know what I have really gone through. I accept everything and it is okay...I will fight until the end for myself because I know what I can give.”

�| Pjanic: “I’m a player who is willing to sacrifice and I always accept the coach’s decision because that’s how I was taught. I agreed to lower my salary and join Besiktas because I love playing.”

�| Pjanic: “Right now, today, I don’t know what he(Koeman) wanted exactly. He didn’t try to explain things to me. I would go to ask him what he wanted from me, positionally or what I was doing well or badly. I wanted to adapt as quickly as possible to the team and be useful.”

You started the season by playing in the UCL, but not in LaLiga Santander. You had no continuity. why?

�| Pjanic: “Everyone asks me that, they want to know. But so do I, I want to know. He never told me or asked if I wanted to play as a two or in front of the defence.”

�| Pjanic: “In a season at the end you need 17-18 players to win titles. Koeman didn’t give me answers. Time had passed, the situation was getting worse, but for no reason.”

�| Pjanic: “I’m not the only man who has suffered from this condition. If you look closely you will see that there are more players. I do not want to speak on their behalf, but they can do it.”

Is it that these players don't have representatives who communicate their complaints and grievances to the board in case of ill-treatment from other players or coach?

Most of us criticize these players, not knowing what they go through. How will a coach just throw a player on the pitch without specific instructions or expectations, just go in and play whatever you play, if it's doesn't suit me, I remove you. No correction, no explanation, nothing.

Before game no tactical instructions, during the game no twicking changes, and after the game, everybody just go home. Finite.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Kilishihunter: 9:40am On Sep 04, 2021
homesteady:


Rest of the interview
https://twitter.com/BarcaTimes/status/1433920688079966211?s=19

A good coach should be technically sound and good at man management. Man management is very important because it can to an extent cover up for technical deficiencies.
We have a Coach who is lacking in both departments. Keoman is a childish, proud and wicked Agbaya.
grin, Koeman, Man management for where? , As for pjanic his case is just down to ill luck of being at the wrong club at also the wrong time and also having to be a scapegoat cause of the exchange deal with Arthur, But let's be honest despite koeman's ego issues and all his shit he didn't really take the few chances he was given assuredly in a team with much midfielders and again koeman hardly rotates his team like guardiola

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Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by jpmoriarti(m): 9:49am On Sep 04, 2021
homesteady:


Rest of the interview
https://twitter.com/BarcaTimes/status/1433920688079966211?s=19

A good coach should be technically sound and good at man management. Man management is very important because it can to an extent cover up for technical deficiencies.
We have a Coach who is lacking in both departments. Keoman is a childish, proud and wicked Agbaya.
Man-management is a tricky affair. Zidane is renowned for his man-mgt but I don't think the likes of Bale or Isco will agree with you.

I think Koeman was very forward with the people he didnt count on last season. He informed them on time. Problem was that we had alot of players that were lost. Players playing on a very low level. And the circumstances that brought Pjanic to the club was also strange. Alot of strange things. I am not making excuse for Koeman but Barca was a strange entity last season. Most coaches will have struggled to get anything done with that Barca.

Don't forget that Pjanic played 30 times last season, starting 13 times. Dude delivered zero goal and zero assist. shocked shocked It doesnt inspire much confidence from a coaching point of view. If i were the coach, I cannot bench Pedri, Busquets, FdJ, Moriba etc to play Pjanic who offered nothing, not even in freaking copa del rey
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by jpmoriarti(m): 9:54am On Sep 04, 2021
joviegghead:


He's right and I feel pity for him. He was a key player at juve. He came to barca and became something close to a non entity.

I think he's one of those players that need lot of game time before hitting peak performance. Koeman never gave him that.
Don't feel pity for him. He is part of the reason Barca were unable to keep Messi. In all fairness to him, he came to Barca that was a shadow of its old self. It was difficult to make much impact when there was alot of mistrust and a lot of players at a low ebb. Besides, Koeman gave him 30 games. If he couldnt notch a goal nor an assist in 30 games, I wonder when he can do that. That's more than enough opportunity right there
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by jpmoriarti(m): 10:09am On Sep 04, 2021
Awesome01:


Is it that these players don't have representatives who communicate their complaints and grievances to the board in case of ill-treatment from other players or coach?

Most of us criticize these players, not knowing what they go through. How will a coach just throw a player on the pitch without specific instructions or expectations, just go in and play whatever you play, if it's doesn't suit me, I remove you. No correction, no explanation, nothing.

Before game no tactical instructions, during the game no twicking changes, and after the game, everybody just go home. Finite.
Are you expecting Koeman to join issues with every single player who leaves and complains of lack of communication? We can sit here and condemn Koeman all we want but issue remains that other players prospered under him. Pedri had his breakout career last season under same Koeman that Pjanic is now complaining does not discuss tactics with him. How does he discuss tactics with other players like Pedri or FdJ? He locks other fringe players out of a room and talk to only a few others? It doesnt make sense to me though.

Pjanic had a nightmare career at Barca last seaon. He must accept the blame of his inability to bring his A game to the table. Coaches can discuss all tactics but it is still the players that will implement them in the pitch. If the player is at a low level, just like most of our players last season, including Pjanic, he will be unable to implement the tactics because he is simply not able to. The coach must play the players that gives him what he expects because the coach also has a job to protect.

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Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by joviegghead: 10:11am On Sep 04, 2021
Sommyroy10:
�| Pjanic: “I would have preferred to be told things directly, but that’s the way it is. It has been a very strange way of communicating, it is the first time. I don’t know what happened.”

�| Pjanic: “In a season at the end you need 17-18 players to win titles. Koeman didn’t give me answers. Time had passed, the situation was getting worse, but for no reason.”

�| Pjanic: “I’m not the only man who has suffered from this condition. If you look closely you will see that there are more players. I do not want to speak on their behalf, but they can do it.”
Poor communication skills.

How can the team or a player improve if a manager doesn't communicate well with his players.

I still don't understand how koeman became a manager. He's poor at it.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by jpmoriarti(m): 10:18am On Sep 04, 2021
joviegghead:

Poor communication skills.

How can the team or a player improve if a manager doesn't communicate well with his players.

I still don't understand how koeman became a manager. He's poor at it.
Don't take his words as gospel. A player must try to explain away his own failures and pin it on another.

Im sure Koeman will respond to this in a press conference may be next week.

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Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by pu7pl3(m): 11:13am On Sep 04, 2021
jpmoriarti:
Man-management is a tricky affair. Zidane is renowned for his man-mgt but I don't think the likes of Bale or Isco will agree with you.

I think Koeman was very forward with the people he didnt count on last season. He informed them on time. Problem was that we had alot of players that were lost. Players playing on a very low level. And the circumstances that brought Pjanic to the club was also strange. Alot of strange things. I am not making excuse for Koeman but Barca was a strange entity last season. Most coaches will have struggled to get anything done with that Barca.

Don't forget that Pjanic played 30 times last season, starting 13 times. Dude delivered zero goal and zero assist. shocked shocked It doesnt inspire much confidence from a coaching point of view. If i were the coach, I cannot bench Pedri, Busquets, FdJ, Moriba etc to play Pjanic who offered nothing, not even in freaking copa del rey

Both Bale and Isco agree that Zidane is a fantastic man manager
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Nobody: 11:31am On Sep 04, 2021
joviegghead:

Poor communication skills.

How can the team or a player improve if a manager doesn't communicate well with his players.

I still don't understand how koeman became a manager. He's poor at it.

Very poor I tell you.

Koeman came in when the club was in a mess and players were in low spirits. The right thing a sensible coach will do is to continue to rotate the squad, try to figure out who is to start, sub or discard. In all fairness to Pjanic, yes he played thirty games but how many minutes was he given? Most times when the game has been destroyed by Koeman’s ineptitude, he then throws in the castaways to come do wonders.

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Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by GrammarNazi1(m): 12:23pm On Sep 04, 2021
SonOfAfonja:


Very poor I tell you.

Koeman came in when the club was in a mess and players were in low spirits. The right thing a sensible coach will do is to continue to rotate the squad, try to figure out who is to start, sub or discard. In all fairness to Pjanic, yes he played thirty games but how many minutes was he given? Most times when the game has been destroyed by Koeman’s ineptitude, he then throws in the castaways to come do wonders.
May God bless you for this.

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Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by jpmoriarti(m): 12:37pm On Sep 04, 2021
[ @ffpolo�] | A meeting was held between Laporta, Alemany, Yuste & Umtiti in August. Laporta told Umtiti that he didn’t count on him - the tensions were high - Umtiti explained himself & at the end, Laporta told him that he deserved a second chance, then, Umtiti started to cry.

So because of cry cry, we're stuck with Umtiti for another year. Chaiii cheesy cheesy smiley

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