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list Shazam feats
Flash that doesn't have any experience and was scared sh1t of Superman

abduleez1:
OGBENI no dey cap.
Shazam alone will handle Supes one on one. Add Flash into the mix and that's problem. Not to talk of Scarlet Witch with Reality warping and WW durability.

Kaycee7:
You're assuming they come one by one. All they need to do is hold him in place for Scarlett Witch.

MJBOLT:

Holding him in place won't work
1.They are fighting other people
2.Nobody on that team,even combined has the strength to do so,WW, Aquaman and Cyborg were all struggling against him and he swatted them like flies.

They never had him place,they were struggling to hold him down and Superman tossed them aside like rag dolls when he saw the flash.
Wanda mind tricks would have worked except for the fact that Superman is too fast for her,he saw flash in slow motion how many speed Wanda get?

Kaycee7:
They had him in place for a few seconds at least. That's all the time Wanda needs to imprison him in his own mind.

MJBOLT:

They never had him place,they were struggling to hold him down and Superman tossed them aside like rag dolls when he saw the flash.
Wanda mind tricks would have worked except for the fact that Superman is too fast for her,he saw flash in slow motion how many speed Wanda get?

Kaycee7:
Speed of thought. Her attack is mental not physical.

MJBOLT:

changes nothing

Kaycee7:
Yep. Supes gets trapped in a mental prison.

MJBOLT:

Holding him in place won't work
1.They are fighting other people
2.Nobody on that team,even combined has the strength to do so,WW, Aquaman and Cyborg were all struggling against him and he swatted them like flies.

MJBOLT:

you have not explained how Wanda will trap someone who can move at the speed of light in a mental prison even against the Avengers she had to sneak up on them

Since Age of Ultron,the people we have seen Wanda enslave are helpless humans and not someone on Superman level,so how is she going to mind control him his speed is not irrelevant if he can move at the speed of light,last time I checked his mind and body are one

I have not even considered the fact that Superman could dish out aerial attacks,Wanda will get speed blitz and bodied

Kaycee7:
Against the Avengers, she was still new to her powers. Current Wanda doesn't need that close proximity to mess with your mind anymore. Supe's speed is irrelevant in this scenario. He's not outrunning his own mind no matter how faster he is.

MJBOLT:

Since Age of Ultron,the people we have seen Wanda enslave are helpless humans and not someone on Superman level,so how is she going to mind control him his speed is not irrelevant if he can move at the speed of light,last time I checked his mind and body are one

I have not even considered the fact that Superman could dish out aerial attacks,Wanda will get speed blitz and bodied

She sneaked up on Thor to jazz him or did she jazz him or any of the Avengers in a straight up fight,she could not even jazz Hawkeye because he knew what she was up to but somehow she will jazz someone who can move at lightspeed why she no jazz Thanos na??
Yes,this isn't Wanda vs Superman, there's Thor, Captain Marvel and Doctor Strange who Wanda will have to contend with.

Kaycee7:
This isn't a Wanda vs Supes one-on-one. Diana, Iron Man, Flash and Shazam are there to run interference.
Was Thor a helpless human? Them no jazz am?

Kaycee7:
You're assuming they come one by one. All they need to do is hold him in place for Scarlett Witch.

abduleez1:
OGBENI no dey cap.
Shazam alone will handle Supes one on one. Add Flash into the mix and that's problem. Not to talk of Scarlet Witch with Reality warping and WW durability.

Kaycee7:
They had him in place for a few seconds at least. That's all the time Wanda needs to imprison him in his own mind.

MJBOLT:

She sneaked up on Thor to jazz him or did she jazz him or any of the Avengers in a straight up fight,she could not even jazz Hawkeye because he knew what she was up to but somehow she will jazz someone who can move at lightspeed why she no jazz Thanos na??

Yes,this isn't Wanda vs Superman, there's Thor, Captain Marvel and Doctor Strange who Wanda will have to contend with.

HaLLantern:
What are you talking about? I'm not assuming anything. None of them can see Superman move ,how will they react? Wonderwoman that is fast enough to deflect bullets was PAUSED when Superman moved to stop flash.
The JL tried to hold a "confused" Superman in place and were flinged away.

To me the only threat there is Wanda but she has the thought process of more or less a human which is far less than even wonderwoman. Heat vision will melt her.

Kaycee7:
Heat Vision will have to get through Wanda's force field first.

Kaycee7:
Heat Vision will have to get through Wanda's force field first.

bruh you to dey rate Wanda

She can't do shit

HaLLantern:
How will she have time to erect a forcefield?

Only way Wanda can be effective here is if she doesn't come to the battle field

I'm not lowballing Wanda she's mad powerful,yes but she has not faced anybody on the level of Superman he's too fast unless we remove his speed,Wanda gets bodied.


Who do we have on team red
Deadpool gets the juggernaut treatment except this time Superman does it with heatvision

Daredevil Is a non factor

Shazam doesn't have the feats to hang here, Superman oil rig feat >>>anything Shazam has done, Aquaman sef >>> Shazam

Spiderman I don't see him doing any damage

Ironman,same as Spiderman,I don't see any damage from him.

Which leaves WW and Flash, Superman already bodied them in JL

Kaycee7:
You still keep lowballing Wanda to her Age of Ultron debut which I've already told you that she's evolved past that stage. Jazzing Thanos wasn't on her mind. Beating the shit out of him was her agenda. And she had no problem doing that.
I'm not arguing Team Red vs Team Blue. I'm arguing Superman vs Team Red.

pu7pl3:
Only way Wanda can be effective here is if she doesn't come to the battle field

HaLLantern:
What has Shazam done to warrant being on the level of wonderwoman much more Superman? Superman moved a tectonic plate, and escaped the force equivalent to a black hole!
What is flash going to do? Superman easily handled the flash.
Don't forget If Superman goes after the Flash, everyone else will PAUSE as no one else can move that fast.
We already saw how Superman easily swatted away the Justice league at the same time. Wanda is dead before she realizes the fight had even started.

Superman will absolutely destroy this team solo.

abduleez1:
Are we talking about Movie Version or all combined?

Shazam has held Supes to a standstill before. Their battles are usually draws.

Wonder Woman has trashed Supes before, so she can do that again.

One main fact people tend to forget if we're using the movie versions, the Justice League were trying to control him or persuade him to calm not necessarily going for the kill or neutralise him with lethal force. Superman more or less saw them as threats to be dealt with.

it's the movie versions, that's why I chose team Black

MJBOLT:

I'm not lowballing Wanda she's mad powerful,yes but she has not faced anybody on the level of Superman he's too fast unless we remove his speed,Wanda gets bodied.


Who do we have on team red
Deadpool gets the juggernaut treatment except this time Superman does it with heatvision

Daredevil Is a non factor

Shazam doesn't have the feats to hang here, Superman oil rig feat >>>anything Shazam has done, Aquaman sef >>> Shazam

Spiderman I don't see him doing any damage

Ironman,same as Spiderman,I don't see any damage from him.

Which leaves WW and Flash, Superman already bodied them in JL

MJBOLT:

I'm not lowballing Wanda she's mad powerful,yes but she has not faced anybody on the level of Superman he's too fast unless we remove his speed,Wanda gets bodied.


Who do we have on team red
Deadpool gets the juggernaut treatment except this time Superman does it with heatvision

Daredevil Is a non factor

Shazam doesn't have the feats to hang here, Superman oil rig feat >>>anything Shazam has done, Aquaman sef >>> Shazam

Spiderman I don't see him doing any damage

Ironman,same as Spiderman,I don't see any damage from him.

Which leaves WW and Flash, Superman already bodied them in JL