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Who Are We Worshiping Jesus Or The Father by nakaman(op): 1:51pm On Sep 12, 2021
I have been thinking about this now for some time, I pray in Jesus name, but make all requests to God, whom , Christians believe is the father of Jesus. , I concluded that am worshiping God, what then is the function of Jesus, because according to the Bible, we are all sons and daughters of God.
Re: Who Are We Worshiping Jesus Or The Father by greatnaija01: 1:54pm On Sep 12, 2021
nakaman:
I have been thinking about this now for some time, I pray in Jesus name, but make all requests to God, whom , Christians believe is the father of Jesus. , I concluded that am worshiping God, what then is the function of Jesus, because according to the Bible, we are all sons and daughters of God.
HERE IS A SCRIPTURE that will help you sir

John 10:22-42


Father sent his SON, that ONLY through His only son, you get access to Him. So both are the SAME. This thing is spiritually discerned and can not be understood without the Holyspirit.

So pls don't confuse yourself. THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY TO GOD........... JESUS.

JESUS IS THE FIRSTBORN(He is the WAY to the FATHER.....the TRUTH about the FATHER and the LIFE of the FATHER) according to the bible.
Re: Who Are We Worshiping Jesus Or The Father by Bishopkingsley(m): 2:01pm On Sep 12, 2021
We worship the father the son the holy spirit

You are made up of

The
Body
Soul
Spirit

It like me asking you who is the real you is it your body or your spirit

Matthew 28:19
Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

New Living Translation
Therefore, go and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit.
Re: Who Are We Worshiping Jesus Or The Father by livingchrist: 2:03pm On Sep 12, 2021
Both,
The father and the son.
We worship the holy spirit when we worship God since the holy spirit operates in the name of the father [given in the old testament] and the son [ given in the new testament]
Re: Who Are We Worshiping Jesus Or The Father by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:12pm On Sep 12, 2021
nakaman:
I have been thinking about this now for some time, I pray in Jesus name, but make all requests to God, whom , Christians believe is the father of Jesus. , I concluded that am worshiping God, what then is the function of Jesus, because according to the Bible, we are all sons and daughters of God.
God first created one spirit being {Proverbs 8:22} God taught this creature so many things as both of them lived together for countless years {Proverbs 8:23-29} then God wants his Son to be happy so God directed his Son how to create all other things both visible that were seeing today {Colossians 1:15-16} but out of all the things God directed the son to make humans are the son's choicest creature {Proverbs 8:30-31} so after humans joined Satan (a rebellious angel) against God, mankind became damned that's why the son stood up for our salvation to redeem us from that curse. Daniel 12:1-3

So whoever wants to live forever must OBEY the one who stood for our salvation {John 3:16-18} that's why the son as the key to the Father's {John 14:6} whoever wants to have the crown of life must bow before the Son of God! Philippians 2:10

Mind you bowing doesn't mean worshiping the Son but taking Counsels from him because God made him the most Wonderful Counselor of all times {Isaiah 9:6} and given him the power to raise the dead like a mighty God, so obedience to him will make the Father approve you and your name will be written in the book of life! Malachi 3:16 compare to Revelations 20:15

If you want to know how to obey Jesus, you need to learn from his true followers who will teach you what he commaded! Matthew 28:20

God bless you and may you have PEACE! smiley
Re: Who Are We Worshiping Jesus Or The Father by Kobojunkie: 2:14pm On Sep 12, 2021
nakaman:
I have been thinking about this now for some time, I pray in Jesus name, but make all requests to God, whom , Christians believe is the father of Jesus. , I concluded that am worshiping God, what then is the function of Jesus, because according to the Bible, we are all sons and daughters of God.
God is God of Laws/agreements /Covenants - it is through these Covenants that He forges relationships with us, men, and the mandate He gives to those with whom He makes these agreements with is one of submission to and obedience of His Law. His Law is God over those under the agreement. undecided

"YHVH" and "Jesus Christ" are both God's Laws. undecided

So, in Jesus Christ, God's New Covenant Law and agreement, in the Kingdom of God, you worship God by serving Jesus Christ. You submit to and obey the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ who is God's Law. Jesus Christ is God over all those who belong in the Kingdom of God - He is Law and those who belong to Him belong to God. undecided


It is not true that we are all Sons of God. When Adam fell, we all fell with Him. Those who are Sons of God are instead those who exists in continual submission to and obedience of God's Will.

Through Jesus Christ. We are again able to become Sons of God. And only those who live in continual submission and obedience of Jesus Christ, God's Truth and Law, are those who qualify as Sons of God - John 8 vs 31 -44 undecided
Re: Who Are We Worshiping Jesus Or The Father by Kdon2: 2:23pm On Sep 12, 2021
nakaman:
I have been thinking about this now for some time, I pray in Jesus name, but make all requests to God, whom , Christians believe is the father of Jesus. , I concluded that am worshiping God, what then is the function of Jesus, because according to the Bible, we are all sons and daughters of God.
You need to get closer to God to have better understanding
Re: Who Are We Worshiping Jesus Or The Father by DappaD: 2:40pm On Sep 12, 2021
nakaman:
I have been thinking about this now for some time, I pray in Jesus name, but make all requests to God, whom , Christians believe is the father of Jesus. , I concluded that am worshiping God, what then is the function of Jesus, because according to the Bible, we are all sons and daughters of God.
Worship is to be directed only to the true God and Father because this was what Jesus told his disciples. Matthew 6:9, John 4:23-24
As for the words in bold, Jesus is the mediator between God and men(1Timothy 2:5, Hebrews 9:15) so if you don’t go through Jesus, the Father has nothing to do with you. John 14:6, 15:16
Re: Who Are We Worshiping Jesus Or The Father by nakaman(op): 5:16pm On Sep 12, 2021
greatnaija01:
HERE IS A SCRIPTURE that will help you sir

John 10:22-42


Father sent his SON, that ONLY through His only son, you get access to Him. So both are the SAME. This thing is spiritually discerned and can not be understood without the Holyspirit.

So pls don't confuse yourself. THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY TO GOD........... JESUS.

JESUS IS THE FIRSTBORN(He is the WAY to the FATHER.....the TRUTH about the FATHER and the LIFE of the FATHER) according to the bible.
so if we don't go through Jesus, our prayers wouldn't be answered
Re: Who Are We Worshiping Jesus Or The Father by nakaman(op): 5:19pm On Sep 12, 2021
DappaD:
Worship is to be directed only to the true God and Father because this was what Jesus told his disciples. Matthew 6:9, John 4:23-24
As for the words in bold, Jesus is the mediator between God and men(1Timothy 2:5, Hebrews 9:15) so if you don’t go through Jesus, the Father has nothing to do with you. John 14:6, 15:16
I disagree with the bold. In the Catholic doctrine the request through Mary, non Christians make requests to God directly, and their prayers are answered.
Re: Who Are We Worshiping Jesus Or The Father by nakaman(op): 5:22pm On Sep 12, 2021
Kdon2:
You need to get closer to God to have better understanding
How closer can I get, seeing things happening in this world, there are many god's but 1 true God is yet to be agreed on, the Christians, Shintos, Muslims, Buddhist, all have a God
Re: Who Are We Worshiping Jesus Or The Father by nakaman(op): 5:27pm On Sep 12, 2021
Kobojunkie:
God is God of Laws/agreements /Covenants - it is through these Covenants that He forges relationships with us, men, and the mandate He gives to those with whom He makes these agreements with is one of submission to and obedience of His Law. His Law is God over those under the agreement. undecided

"YHVH" and "Jesus Christ" are both God's Laws. undecided

So, in Jesus Christ, God's New Covenant Law and agreement, in the Kingdom of God, you worship God by serving Jesus Christ. You submit to and obey the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ who is God's Law. Jesus Christ is God over all those who belong in the Kingdom of God - He is Law and those who belong to Him belong to God. undecided


It is not true that we are all Sons of God. When Adam fell, we all fell with Him. Those who are Sons of God are instead those who exists in continual submission to and obedience of God's Will.

Through Jesus Christ. We are again able to become Sons of God. And only those who live in continual submission and obedience of Jesus Christ, God's Truth and Law, are those who qualify as Sons of God - John 8 vs 31 -44 undecided
We're only Christians bcoz, we grew up in Christian home, and English teaching, ur explanation wouldn't be same if you were Chinese or Japanese, an Indian Buddhist would disagree with you, the igbos, believe that everyone has a God. Known as CHI, that's y they say "onye kwe, chi ya ekwe" meaning " if u agree, ur God Agree"
Re: Who Are We Worshiping Jesus Or The Father by nakaman(op): 5:30pm On Sep 12, 2021
Bishopkingsley:
We worship the father the son the holy spirit

You are made up of

The
Body
Soul
Spirit

It like me asking you who is the real you is it your body or your spirit

Matthew 28:19
Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

New Living Translation
Therefore, go and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit.
from ur explanation, ur a Catholic, the 3 in 1 God is agreed ,so how come other non Catholics disagree with the Ideology
Re: Who Are We Worshiping Jesus Or The Father by Kobojunkie:
nakaman:
We're only Christians bcoz, we grew up in Christian home, and English teaching, ur explanation wouldn't be same if you were Chinese or Japanese, an Indian Buddhist would disagree with you, the igbos, believe that everyone has a God. Known as CHI, that's y they say "onye kwe, chi ya ekwe" meaning " if u agree, ur God Agree"
I didn’t grow up in a Christian home, so don't make assumptions of my person. lipsrsealed

You asked about the God of the Christians and I explained Him to you the best I could.. undecided

The deity of the Ibos, and of the Chinese, of the Muslims , and of the Yorubas... are all different and would require different explanations from the one i have previously given you of the God of the Bible people. undecided
Re: Who Are We Worshiping Jesus Or The Father by DappaD:
nakaman:
disagree with the bold. In the Catholic doctrine the request through Mary, non Christians make requests to God directly, and their prayers are answered.
According to 1Corinthians 8:5, there are thousands of Gods operating in the spirit realm. So which of them were they praying to?

How do you expect to contact the managing director of a firm if you don’t go through the executive secretary? Do you think you can get to him through workers of lower ranks? Wouldn’t it be appropriate to go through the proper channel?
Re: Who Are We Worshiping Jesus Or The Father by sonmvayina(m): 5:59pm On Sep 12, 2021
God created man in his image and likeness, and is constantly molding us to become like him. But the romans created God in their image and likeness and forced man to worship him..foolishly without stopping to think we have mumushly following them and has become rebels to our creator..

When will it end? When are we waking up from the brain washing...just when??
Re: Who Are We Worshiping Jesus Or The Father by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:01pm On Sep 12, 2021
sonmvayina:
God created man in his image and likeness, and is constantly molding us to become like him. But the romans created God in their image and likeness and forced man to worship him..foolishly without stopping to think we have mumushly following them and has become rebels to our creator..

When will it end? When are we waking up from the brain washing...just when??
I think you are alone in this so speak for yourself! cheesy
Re: Who Are We Worshiping Jesus Or The Father by sonmvayina(m): 6:05pm On Sep 12, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
I think you are alone in this so speak for yourself! cheesy
I try to let people know the only way to worship our creator is to obey and live by his commandments...and shorn idolatry.
Re: Who Are We Worshiping Jesus Or The Father by Bishopkingsley(m): 6:14pm On Sep 12, 2021
nakaman:
from ur explanation, ur a Catholic, the 3 in 1 God is agreed ,so how come other non Catholics disagree with the Ideology
Funny you claim am a catholic funny there is no penticostal church that does not believe in Trinity

As you are now, you can't even notice that you are three in one because you are completely whole so this three in one things confuse many people

Do you see Jesus did not say names but said name meaning it one being

Bearing
The Father
The son
The holy spirit

Anglican believe in Trinity
For record sake am not a catholic
I don't preach church
I preach Jesus

You can tell me your church I will tell you what they believe in if they understand trinity
Re: Who Are We Worshiping Jesus Or The Father by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:30pm On Sep 12, 2021
Keep on trying! smiley

sonmvayina:
I try to let people know the only way to worship our creator is to obey and live by his commandments...and shorn idolatry.
Re: Who Are We Worshiping Jesus Or The Father by Kdon2: 7:39pm On Sep 12, 2021
nakaman:
How closer can I get, seeing things happening in this world, there are many god's but 1 true God is yet to be agreed on, the Christians, Shintos, Muslims, Buddhist, all have a God
Just hold on to the one you believe in.
Re: Who Are We Worshiping Jesus Or The Father by sonmvayina(m): 7:43pm On Sep 12, 2021
nakaman:
How closer can I get, seeing things happening in this world, there are many god's but 1 true God is yet to be agreed on, the Christians, Shintos, Muslims, Buddhist, all have a God
Just one, I think it is just the nomenclature that is different....and the stories are different, but the message the stories convey is consistent....

The Christian concept is the most ridiculous of them all.
Re: Who Are We Worshiping Jesus Or The Father by Kobojunkie:
nakaman:
I disagree with the bold. In the Catholic doctrine the request through Mary, non Christians make requests to God directly, and their prayers are answered.
Not the same deity.undecided

Different peoples worship different deities.... until you realize this, your understanding will remain unbalanced. undecided
Re: Who Are We Worshiping Jesus Or The Father by greatnaija01: 8:39pm On Sep 12, 2021
nakaman:
so if we don't go through Jesus, our prayers wouldn't be answered
FOR CHRISTIANS ONLY......

for freethinkers and other spirituality fans.... YOU CAN GO THROUGH ANY MEANS TO GET YOUR PRAYERS ANSWERED...

SPIRITS HELP MORTALS AT A COST... even our forefathers knew this... so JUJU, IFA, SANGO, and other fetish means still work till today.

IF YOU UNDERSTOOD MY POST.... I was speaking about GOD.. not about answering prayers... I AM TALKING ABOUT HAVING A TRUE RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD.... not a contract relationship of request n rituals.... A FATHER TO CHILD RELATIONSHIP CAN ONLY COME THROUGH JESUS.
Re: Who Are We Worshiping Jesus Or The Father by Kobojunkie: 8:53pm On Sep 12, 2021
nakaman:
so if we don't go through Jesus, our prayers wouldn't be answered
God, as spoken of in the Bible, declares the way to get to Him is through one of the Laws He has given to men. And Jesus Christ is His Law to the world(Gentiles). And so, yes. Jesus Christ is the only Way He has provided for us to receive from Him answers we seek, even to prayers. undecided
Re: Who Are We Worshiping Jesus Or The Father by sonmvayina(m): 9:13pm On Sep 12, 2021
Kobojunkie:
God, as spoken of in the Bible, declares the way to get to Him is through one of the Laws He has given to men. And Jesus Christ is His Law to the world(Gentiles). And so, yes. Jesus Christ is the only Way He has provided for us to receive from Him answers we seek, even to prayers. undecided
I am the Lord your God who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bandage "YOU SHALL HAVE NO OTHER BEFORE ME"..

hope you don't mean the one who gave this commandments?
Re: Who Are We Worshiping Jesus Or The Father by sonmvayina(m): 9:15pm On Sep 12, 2021
nakaman:
so if we don't go through Jesus, our prayers wouldn't be answered
Is it the same God that said " do not have any other God before me or another one?
Re: Who Are We Worshiping Jesus Or The Father by Kobojunkie: 9:17pm On Sep 12, 2021
sonmvayina:
I am the Lord your God who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bandage "YOU SHALL HAVE NO OTHER BEFORE ME"..

hope you don't mean the one who gave this commandments?
Again, The Old Covenant Law , YHWH, which you refer to, was given by Adonai to those descended from the blood of Jacob and meant as agreement for their living here on earth in the Land of Canaan - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20 undecided
Re: Who Are We Worshiping Jesus Or The Father by sonmvayina(m): 9:18pm On Sep 12, 2021
Kobojunkie:
Again, The Old Covenant Law , YHWH, which you refer to, was given by Adonai to those descended from the blood of Jacob and meant as agreement for their living here on earth in the Land of Canaan - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20 undecided
So you worship a different God...why not just say so..
Re: Who Are We Worshiping Jesus Or The Father by Kobojunkie: 9:20pm On Sep 12, 2021
sonmvayina:
So you worship a different God...why not just say so..
The one called Adonai, is He a different God from the one you serve.. if yes, then certainly we worship different God's? undecided
Re: Who Are We Worshiping Jesus Or The Father by sonmvayina(m): 9:22pm On Sep 12, 2021
Kobojunkie:
The one called Adonai, is a different God? undecided
I was asking you....because the last time I checked. God does not change....I doubt if he would give one set of law for jews and another for other people. When he created everybody. Does not make any sense, does it to you?
Re: Who Are We Worshiping Jesus Or The Father by sonmvayina(m): 9:24pm On Sep 12, 2021
Kobojunkie:
The one called Adonai, is He a different God from the one you serve.. if yes, then certainly we worship different God's? undecided
You are really confused.....Waka go front abeg
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