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Re: Rivers Government Drags FG To Supreme Court Over VAT by onuman: 12:13pm On Sep 15, 2021
Supreme Court led by Fulani.

If you had sought for Rivers Republic instead of going to the doctor who willingly cut your belly to stitch up your belly.
Re: Rivers Government Drags FG To Supreme Court Over VAT by luluman: 12:13pm On Sep 15, 2021
ourema:
Apart from this current case the Rivers State governor performance is below that of his predecessor Amaechi.

Employment his rating is below the previous government,
Workers promotion and Pensioner gratuity is very poor

So why cant you look forward and praise the government for this case? Dont be a pessimist
Re: Rivers Government Drags FG To Supreme Court Over VAT by akdjr(m): 12:13pm On Sep 15, 2021
Although wike will definitely lose the case but what I expect other none Sharia state to do is to file a case to stop Sharia states from sharing from the VAT generated from the sales of alcoholic drinks since they keep destroying beer in their own state meanwhile, the same beer form part of the monthly allocation they get in their state to pay those HISBA they employed to destroy any beer they see in their state. quote author=ourema post=105823241]UPDATED Rivers govt drags FG to Supreme Court over VAT

…seeks disbandment of A’Court panel that ordered maintenance of status quo




https://www.vanguardngr.com/2021/09/breaking-rivers-govt-drags-fg-to-supreme-court-over-vat-revenue/[/quote]
Re: Rivers Government Drags FG To Supreme Court Over VAT by Juicy001: 12:14pm On Sep 15, 2021
Heading should have been.....

"BREAKING"
WIKE DRAGS FG TO COURT
Re: Rivers Government Drags FG To Supreme Court Over VAT by Terrence99: 12:15pm On Sep 15, 2021
garfield1:



That is not true sir.the vat act specifically empowers the firs to collect vat.perhaps,you should go through the vat act.even rivers is not questioning this.what they are saying is that the fg lacks powers to collect taxes that are not on item 58 and 59 of the constitution like sales tax,withholding tax,tertiary education tax,nitda,tax...but the same constitution never empowered the states to collect this same taxes.now,an act of the national assembly called the vat act has empowered the fg to collect vat.the vat laws of lagos and rivers cannot supersede the vat act....
Some others argue that vat is in the concurrent list and in the concurrent list,same fg has an advantage in conflicting items...
Even if we go by your claims that states collect on behalf of the fg,it means the fg has the deciding authority and can decide to delegate anyone other than states' to collect it.

This case is a delicate case.for the sake of peace,let firs continue collecting vat...worst case scenario,the share of states like lagos,rivers,kaduna,fct will increase

FIRS won't collect anything. Just forget it.

VAT was introduced in 1993 to replace Sales tax. The question is if the FG could it collect sales tax, why can they now collect VAT?

As for the Appeal by the FIRS, they are merely wasting their time. It is a declaratory judgment as to rights and you don't use stay of execution to suppress declaratory judgements. This particular Justices who granted this interlocutory injunction are not very intelligent.

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Re: Rivers Government Drags FG To Supreme Court Over VAT by mfm04622: 12:19pm On Sep 15, 2021
DubaiLandLord1:
The Appeal Court ask the Rivers State Govt. And FIRS to maintain status quo, that means Rivers can keep on collecting VATs till the Appeal Court pass a judgement.

The court SPECIFICALLY asked both parties to return to the position BEFORE the court judgement. Also, Rivers State has not started collecting VAT even after the judgement

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Re: Rivers Government Drags FG To Supreme Court Over VAT by frankwyte: 12:20pm On Sep 15, 2021
All these unnecessary drama by FIRS is just annoying trust making we the NORTH to be seen as lazy and parasitic which we're not.
Re: Rivers Government Drags FG To Supreme Court Over VAT by Nobody: 12:21pm On Sep 15, 2021
mfm04622:


The court SPECIFICALLY asked both parties to return to the position BEFORE the court judgement. Also, Rivers State has not started collecting VAT even after the judgement
Thanks for this explanation.

You just explain all this in simple terms cheesy
Re: Rivers Government Drags FG To Supreme Court Over VAT by garfield1: 12:28pm On Sep 15, 2021
Terrence99:


FIRS won't collect anything. Just forget it.

VAT was introduced in 1993 to replace Sales tax. The question is if the FG could it collect sales tax, why can they now collect VAT?

As for the Appeal by the FIRS, they are merely wasting their time. It is a declaratory judgment as to rights and you don't use stay of execution to suppress declaratory judgements. This particular Justices who granted this interlocutory injunction are not very intelligent.

You are missing the point,you are the one that needs to forget it.firs have been collecting vat and they will keep collecting it,states should forget it after all they have the highest share.it is like saying states should start collecting oil revenue..impossible.
Re: Rivers Government Drags FG To Supreme Court Over VAT by georgeakins: 12:29pm On Sep 15, 2021
Wike should rather give an account of how he has spent Rivers money in the last 6 years, instead of asking for more funds via VAT
Re: Rivers Government Drags FG To Supreme Court Over VAT by Laggafin: 12:30pm On Sep 15, 2021
He will definitely win at supreme Court. Mary odili will ensure Rivers State win and the real fiscal restructuring in Nigeria will begin in Ernest... 5 gbosas in advance to the common man . We move

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Re: Rivers Government Drags FG To Supreme Court Over VAT by Jostoman: 12:34pm On Sep 15, 2021
ourema:
Apart from this current case the Rivers State governor performance is below that of his predecessor Amaechi.

Employment his rating is below the previous government,
Workers promotion and Pensioner gratuity is very poor

zombie supporters I know you will still find something to condemned the messenger.
Re: Rivers Government Drags FG To Supreme Court Over VAT by airsaylongcome: 12:34pm On Sep 15, 2021
DubaiLandLord1:
The Appeal Court ask the Rivers State Govt. And FIRS to maintain status quo, that means Rivers can keep on collecting VATs till the Appeal Court pass a judgement.

I think it's status quo ante
Re: Rivers Government Drags FG To Supreme Court Over VAT by garfield1: 12:34pm On Sep 15, 2021
DubaiLandLord1:
Thanks for this explanation.

You just explain all this in simple terms cheesy
I tried explaining this to you na yesterday.status quo means firs still collecting it because even after the state laws,States didn't start collecting it
Re: Rivers Government Drags FG To Supreme Court Over VAT by garfield1: 12:35pm On Sep 15, 2021
georgeakins:
Wike should rather give an account of how he has spent Rivers money in the last 6 years, instead of asking for more funds via VAT

He won't,it is a battle against the fg directly and odili is outnumbered
Re: Rivers Government Drags FG To Supreme Court Over VAT by emperor863(m): 12:38pm On Sep 15, 2021
AntiBMC:
Hmm. The same court presided over by Tanko Muhammad, an illiterate who only went to Islamic school? Lol.

This is a man that was specially handpicked by the FG (Fulani govt), to do their bidding. He is the reason why Bulhari is president, he is the reason why Hope Uzodimma is a governor. So, for Wike to carry ds VAT matter there...lol...excuse me for not having an iota of faith in the "supreme" court. lipsrsealed



You forgot to add that Tanko Mohammed is the reason Diri is the governor of Bayelsa state despite scoring just about 35% of the total votes cast.

Ode. Fool. Retard.

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Re: Rivers Government Drags FG To Supreme Court Over VAT by Terrence99: 12:40pm On Sep 15, 2021
garfield1:


You are missing the point,you are the one that needs to forget it.firs have been collecting vat and they will keep collecting it,states should forget it after all they have the highest share.it is like saying states should start collecting oil revenue..impossible.

VAT replaced sales tax. Where do you see central governments fighting for sales taxes?

FIRS can keep fooling itself, it can never win this case. Let me tell you something. Once Supreme court upholds the judgment of the Federal High Court, FIRS is castrated. Lagos previously took up this matter and won at the High Court and Court of Appeal.

Now, the FG fixed VAT at 7.5%. Lagos will fix its own at probably 7% or 6.5%. Rivers can fix its own at 7% or even 5%. Let the FIRS go looking for fools that will abandon 5% and pay 7.5%.

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Re: Rivers Government Drags FG To Supreme Court Over VAT by Iliya1520: 12:42pm On Sep 15, 2021
AntiBMC:
Hmm. The same court presided over by Tanko Muhammad, an illiterate who only went to Islamic school? Lol.

This is a man that was specially handpicked by the FG (Fulani govt), to do their bidding. He is the reason why Bulhari is president, he is the reason why Hope Uzodimma is a governor. So, for Wike to carry ds VAT matter there...lol...excuse me for not having an iota of faith in the "supreme" court. lipsrsealed



Thank god Islam has schools, and he attended It. What is so-called cristianity who no get school? They depend on only western education and only believe on it.
Re: Rivers Government Drags FG To Supreme Court Over VAT by AmazingELixir: 12:47pm On Sep 15, 2021
garfield1:


Wike is overreaching himself.by asking for a new appeal panel,he will definitely lose the case.he must have tried bribing them and failed

Young man why don't you go get yourself a life...right from the time of the rivers gubernatorial elections to date you're still grieving the lose of your candidate.

Don't gaan die on Wike's matter....he doesn't even know if you exist grin

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Re: Rivers Government Drags FG To Supreme Court Over VAT by emmykk(m): 12:47pm On Sep 15, 2021
ourema:
Apart from this current case the Rivers State governor performance is below that of his predecessor Amaechi.

Employment his rating is below the previous government,
Workers promotion and Pensioner gratuity is very poor


Can you shut up your mouth

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Re: Rivers Government Drags FG To Supreme Court Over VAT by garfield1: 12:47pm On Sep 15, 2021
Terrence99:


VAT replaced sales tax. Where do you see central governments fighting for sales taxes?

FIRS can keep fooling itself, it can never win this case. Let me tell you something. Once Supreme court upholds the judgment of the Federal High Court, FIRS is castrated. Lagos previously took up this matter and won at the High Court and Court of Appeal.

Now, the FG fixed VAT at 7.5%. Lagos will fix its own at probably 7% or 6.5%. Rivers can fix its own at 7% or even 5%. Let the FIRS go looking for fools that will abandon 5% and pay 7.5%.


Stop saying what you dont know.there is nothing like sales tax in nigeria,it is vat and the fg has a law called vat act.the fg is clever that is why it changed it to vat...

Now,only the high court has ruled on this matter.it just got to the appeal court,the appeal court did not make a final ruling.they simply said that while the case is going on,firs will continue collecting vat.the final matter has not been decided.this is just a motion.be guided,stop talking carelessly.lagos has never taken this case to court before,only rivers did.behave yourself son
Re: Rivers Government Drags FG To Supreme Court Over VAT by garfield1: 12:48pm On Sep 15, 2021
AmazingELixir:


Young man why don't you go get yourself a life...right from the time of the rivers gubernatorial elections to date you're still grieving the lose of your candidate.

Don't gaan die on Wike's matter....he doesn't even know if you exist grin

Apc is taking rivers 2023 boy
Re: Rivers Government Drags FG To Supreme Court Over VAT by Nobody: 12:50pm On Sep 15, 2021
garfield1:

I tried explaining this to you na yesterday.status quo means firs still collecting it because even after the state laws,States didn't start collecting it
I'm sorry I didn't see it. Thank you!
Re: Rivers Government Drags FG To Supreme Court Over VAT by Nobody: 12:52pm On Sep 15, 2021
Validated:
Ghen ghen ... Wike, a man with big hairy "steel" balls grin grin
grin grin better steel balls, but its still a fulani man that's the chief of judiciary
Re: Rivers Government Drags FG To Supreme Court Over VAT by Kaybenny(m): 12:54pm On Sep 15, 2021
Iliya1520:


Thank god Islam has schools, and he attended It. What is so-called cristianity who no get school? They depend on only western education and only believe on it.

So?

Why didn't you type in inslam.
Ewu

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Re: Rivers Government Drags FG To Supreme Court Over VAT by Terrence99: 12:56pm On Sep 15, 2021
garfield1:


Stop saying what you dont know.there is nothing like sales tax in nigeria,it is vat and the fg has a law called vat act.the fg is clever that is why it changed it to vat...

Now,only the high court has ruled on this matter.it just got to the appeal court,the appeal court did not make a final ruling.they simply said that while the case is going on,firs will continue collecting vat.the final matter has not been decided.this is just a motion.be guided,stop talking carelessly.lagos has never taken this case to court before,only rivers did.behave yourself son

Read this article and get properly educated
https://ng.andersen.com/an-analysis-of-federal-high-court-decision-invalidation-the-vat-act-implications-for-vat-administration-and-compliance/

Thereafter, if you need me to clear your ignorance more, let me know.

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Re: Rivers Government Drags FG To Supreme Court Over VAT by engrfaruq(m): 12:57pm On Sep 15, 2021
Tanko be looking at Wike like

Re: Rivers Government Drags FG To Supreme Court Over VAT by Kaybenny(m): 12:58pm On Sep 15, 2021
garfield1:


Apc is taking rivers 2023 boy
Day dreaming
cheesy
Re: Rivers Government Drags FG To Supreme Court Over VAT by engrfaruq(m): 12:59pm On Sep 15, 2021
AntiBMC:
Hmm. The same court presided over by Tanko Muhammad, an illiterate who only went to Islamic school? Lol.

This is a man that was specially handpicked by the FG (Fulani govt), to do their bidding. He is the reason why Bulhari is president, he is the reason why Hope Uzodimma is a governor. So, for Wike to carry ds VAT matter there...lol...excuse me for not having an iota of faith in the "supreme" court. lipsrsealed



Re: Rivers Government Drags FG To Supreme Court Over VAT by fergie001: 1:00pm On Sep 15, 2021
garfield1:
That is not true sir.the vat act specifically empowers the firs to collect vat.perhaps,you should go through the vat act.even rivers is not questioning this.what they are saying is that the fg lacks powers to collect taxes that are not on item 58 and 59 of the constitution like sales tax,withholding tax,tertiary education tax,nitda,tax...but the same constitution never empowered the states to collect this same taxes.now,an act of the national assembly called the vat act has empowered the fg to collect vat.the vat laws of lagos and rivers cannot supersede the vat act....
Some others argue that vat is in the concurrent list and in the concurrent list,same fg has an advantage in conflicting items...
Even if we go by your claims that states collect on behalf of the fg,it means the fg has the deciding authority and can decide to delegate anyone other than states' to collect it.

This case is a delicate case.for the sake of peace,let firs continue collecting vat...worst case scenario,the share of states like lagos,rivers,kaduna,fct will increase
You haven't opposed one thing I have said.

I will ask you two questions: Does the VAT Act supercede the Part II (concurrent legislative list) of the Second Schedule of the 1999 constitution?

I will reproduce Part II (concurrent legislative list) of the Second Schedule of the 1999 constitution

7. In the exercise of its powers to impose any tax or duty on -

(a) capital gains, incomes or profits or persons other than companies; and
(b) documents or transactions by way of stamp duties.

the National Assembly may, subject to such conditions as it may prescribe, provide that the collection of any such tax or duty or the administration of the law imposing it shall be carried out by the Government of a State or other authority of a State.


How is the FG now the delegating Authority? The FG has no authority except that empowered by the VAT Act which cannot supercede the law as enshrined in the Constitution.

That is the reason they are trying to smuggle it in to amend that part of the Constitution.

Items that the FG can collect taxes on are well enumerated in Part 1 of the Schedule, there was no VAT whatsoever and Part II is between the State and Federal Legislatures. The fact that State legislatures don't act doesn't mean it is right.

The 1999 Constitution is the grundnorm and any part of a law that is out of tune with it must wither as a “dead branch of a living tree.”

No way, I do not support the FIRS' continuance of collecting VAT......I don't.

The FHC by virtue of the judgement invalidated the VAT Act passed by the National Assembly for been in conflict with the Constitution.

The Court also noted that the provisions of Item 7(a) and (b) of Part II of the Second Schedule of the Constitution do not extend the legislative competence of the National Assembly beyond capital gains, incomes or profits of persons other than companies, and documents or transactions by way of stamp duties. Therefore, the National Assembly lacks the power to enact any law to impose any form of sales tax, including VAT, and any other tax outside of those specifically mentioned in Item 7(a) and (b) of Part II of the Second Schedule of the Constitution...

The judgement is a Declaratory one and subsists.

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Re: Rivers Government Drags FG To Supreme Court Over VAT by AmazingELixir: 1:05pm On Sep 15, 2021
garfield1:


Apc is taking rivers 2023 boy

grin

You're in for another rude awakening....this time around you might get hospitalised for nervous breakdown.
Re: Rivers Government Drags FG To Supreme Court Over VAT by Zagee: 1:06pm On Sep 15, 2021
I like how he is trying to trash out this market quickly...!!! Just keep dragging them to supreme court, tired of hearing "High Court judgement, Appeal overruling and under-rulling"..

Fiam straight to Supreme!!!

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