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Re: Why Are Igbo And Hindu Accounts Of Creation The Exact Same? by Nobody: 4:02pm On Sep 13, 2021
IduNaOba:

From Uga which the Indians indegenised to Yuga
Both of which are divided into 4
To similar detailed accounts of both ages
It is not news that igbos taught the gave the world civilization (sevili ose) opening / tearing of Ose (ose = the eyes, ose naabọ = vision)

Igbos opened the eyes of the world
Ogam / ogham / ọgụ ma is another proof

Mmuo ntụ = month.
Sọ mma = summer
Iwinta = winter
Ose okala Ofu odi = second (otu ntabi anya in today's igbo which literally translates to a blink of an eye)
Eze Urukpu (King of the clouds) = Zeus
Iru ọpia = Europa / Europe
Ofu Ọra (nwa anyanwụ na eze enu) pharaoh
Ọra (sun) = Ra (sun God) of Egypt

Igbo amaka


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Re: Why Are Igbo And Hindu Accounts Of Creation The Exact Same? by Nobody: 4:07pm On Sep 13, 2021
IduNaOba:

Let me shock you small
The original igbo race (ndị mbụ) came to earth with what they call ufo which is funny enough called (UFO) today.
They brought with them the technology of civilization
I once asked why the world is searching for aliens when igbos are aliens living here.
Of the ndị mbụ ancestors of ndị Igbo
There were 2 groups
Ushì aka akwụ (they went back to base).
Ushì aka ululu (the remained and later took on flessh to become humans and then multiplied)
AKA ululu points to the flesh or skin or body
AKA akwụ points to the spirit or energy without flesh

After ndị mbụ came ndị Abọ (the second ancestors)
They came after the tech of ndị mbụ were misused by those they taught from Ireland to India to China to other parts of Europe.
Firbolg
Tuatha de danam
Plaides
Danube
Etc etc
The second ancestors came to restore balance and in so doing brought about Nze na Ọzọ which became the first world democracy.

I won't delve too deep into these but I just wanted to let you know that the story of the Anunaki and aliens are actually corrupted versions of the original igbo story thats why the one I was telling here may sound familiar.

The moon was the base of the first ancestors of ndigbo (ndị mbụ) before they landed on ỌSHA MBALA (called shambala by tibetan shammans and belived to be the origin of civilization of man) using ufo (UFO in scientific terms of today)

The thing is that if I Should go deeper into igbo mysticism (it is mysticism today because we have lost alot as Humans) you will shock at how they tally with so many stuff you know about aliens.


I won't bother doing that anyways.
But just understand that igbo is not what many think .

Mundane igbo concepts are mysticism of other cultures
Afa of the igbo ancestors has been copied to many cultures..
Some call it
Ifa
Efa
Even afa too.
Ase of the igbo people is copied in other cultures too
Un/fortunately these things have been hidden to protect ndigbo until the new age.

Cheers

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Re: Why Are Igbo And Hindu Accounts Of Creation The Exact Same? by Guide777(m): 4:38pm On Sep 13, 2021
OdumegwuOjukwu:
@Op,

Most ancient history of creation story emanated from Mesopotamia. The Sumerians of Mesopotamia kept detailed account of 'creation' (of man)by their gods Annunakis (those from the sky), in their stone tablets. The bible creation story mirrors closely to the Sumerian's account of Anunanaki intervention in the affairs of earth, specifically the genetic modification of some primates to 'create' homo sapiens for use in their gold mining operations. Abraham was from Mesopotamia city of Ur, and he would have transmitted this knowledge to his children who codified it in the Bible and possibly Koran, with different twists (influenced by their Jewish God (Yaweh) who most likely is of Pleiadian origin. Humans who were 'created' in other places on earth (Southern Africa) most likely have a slightly different understanding of creation. Unfortunately many of these accounts are lost due to Christian and Muslim deliberate genocidal effort to destroy information/ideas/knowledge that contradict their versions.

Modern man owes it intellect to alien races - the Annunakis, Pleiadian, and others. These are worshiped today as the Gods - aliens species with powerful technology, who came to earth for other purposes (gold miners, and galactic warriors).

I believe we are more than we think we are, and death shouldn't have been something to fear, if not for the advent of Christianity and Islam.
Fact
Re: Why Are Igbo And Hindu Accounts Of Creation The Exact Same? by Ofodirinwa: 5:28pm On Sep 13, 2021
OdumegwuOjukwu:


The Annunaki history spans at least 450,000 years. There is no known culture that is as old as that. There is no way the Igbo culture precedes the Anunnaki. If the Neanderthal man was still around, perhaps they'll have a better claim to being here before the Annunakis. Unfortunately, they (Neanderthal man) went into extinction about 400,000 years ago, perhaps as a direct consequence of meeting with Homo Sapiens who were created by the Annunaki. Igbos, hindus, are peopled by homo sapiens. So I fail to see how igbo would precede the Anunnakis.

I can perhaps concede that the were pockets of places where the Anunnakis (and other ETs) 'created' man, apart from Eridu (Garden of Eden). But if indeed Igbos have been in their location for over 100,000 years, there is no way they could be said to have come from Israel (unless population mix via migration). Abraham, the progenitor of Isreal, was a native or Ur, citizen of Mesopotamia; he was a Sumerians. If Jacob (Israel) was alive today, I doubt if he will be older than 5000 years.


nna please, there's no such a thing as anunnaki. I don't want to go further in that argument but what I'm presenting is evidence based and verifiable and annunaki talk is was white ppl talk about when schizophrenia sets in. The way Africans take in white ideas without knowing the context or even caring to learn what type of white person says things like that.

Israel is historically insignificant. Today it's population is less than that of Imo State. The only reason you and I know about Israel is because a book about people from there happened to be adopted by europeans and arabs as their religion and europeans decided to spread this book to non-europeans. Not only are Igbos older and more numerous than Israel, Israelis themselves don't believe the bible's fables are an actual account of history. It's mythology for children to learn moral lessons like Mbe stories in Igboland. But nobody will turn around and start telling you they descend from Mbe. There's no where in the world that anyone believes Abraham was a real person outside of Africa. Abraham (Father Ram) is an allegory for the Aries constellation.

Even the stories in the video are allegorical. There's a message to them. We can't use them to start tracing real history, at least not on face value

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Re: Why Are Igbo And Hindu Accounts Of Creation The Exact Same? by OdumegwuOjukwu: 5:43pm On Sep 13, 2021
Ofodirinwa:


nna please, there's no such a thing as anunnaki. I don't want to go further in that argument but what I'm presenting is evidence based and verifiable and annunaki talk is was white ppl talk about when schizophrenia sets in. The way Africans take in white ideas without knowing the context or even caring to learn what type of white person says things like that.

Israel is historically insignificant. Today it's population is less than that of Imo State. The only reason you and I know about Israel is because a book about people from there happened to be adopted by europeans and arabs as their religion and europeans decided to spread this book to non-europeans. Not only are Igbos older and more numerous than Israel, Israelis themselves don't believe the bible's fables are an actual account of history. It's mythology for children to learn moral lessons like Mbe stories in Igboland. But nobody will turn around and start telling you they descend from Mbe. There's no where in the world that anyone believes Abraham was a real person outside of Africa. Abraham (Father Ram) is an allegory for the Aries constellation.

Even the stories in the video are allegorical. There's a message to them. We can't use them to start tracing real history, at least not on face value


Whether you believe in the Annunaki story or not is not my business. Igbo's didn't create themselves, and the Anunnaki's created the homo sapiens. You can dismiss it or you can conduct your independent research. I don't know if Israel believe in the Bible account or not, and I won't blame anyone who doesn't as I find it difficult to believe the Bible creation story. But the Annunaki creation story has nothing to do with Israel, except that Abraham problem passed on some of the story to his children who now created the 'scripture' and eventually a whole industry out of it.

But the fact of the matter is that there is growing body of evidence suggesting that history as we know it is a lie, and the mythologies are closer to the truth.

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Re: Why Are Igbo And Hindu Accounts Of Creation The Exact Same? by Ofodirinwa: 5:53pm On Sep 13, 2021
OdumegwuOjukwu:


Whether you believe in the Annunaki story or not is not my business. Igbo's didn't create themselves, and the Anunnaki's created the homo sapiens. You can dismiss it or you can conduct your independent research. I don't know if Israel believe in the Bible account or not, and I won't blame anyone who doesn't as I find it difficult to believe the Bible creation story. But the Annunaki creation story has nothing to do with Israel, except that Abraham problem passed on some of the story to his children who now created the 'scripture' and eventually a whole industry out of it.

But the fact of the matter is that there is growing body of evidence suggesting that history as we know it is a lie, and the mythologies are closer to the truth.

that's not true bro. Anyways, I tried.
Re: Why Are Igbo And Hindu Accounts Of Creation The Exact Same? by OdumegwuOjukwu: 6:33pm On Sep 13, 2021
Ofodirinwa:


that's not true bro. Anyways, I tried.



No wahala. I guess we are interpreting things differently. I don't have to overload you with information just because I want to convince you.
Re: Why Are Igbo And Hindu Accounts Of Creation The Exact Same? by IduNaOba: 9:08pm On Sep 14, 2021
OdumegwuOjukwu:



The issue is that the Annunaki stories stretches as far back as 450 thousand years ago and it seemed to be more documented. And one the highlight of the work was the creation of homo sapiens. Igbos, have the image and likeness of homo sapiens. Though it's possible that the Annunaki might have created of species of men.

If Igbos ancestors came from the sky, we are either of Plaiedian origin or Annunakis. These ETs made countless visit to earth. Of these, the Annunaki creation story is more likely, as they (Annunaki ) are the race more interested, and better equipped in gene editing, and specie creation and diversification. But some of the people the made, allied with the Plaiedians, for example Abraham, and learnt their way. Cos while the Annunakis were more into control (communism, and socialism), the Pleiadian were more interested in the ideals of freedom and democracy. So in this context, Igbos, perhaps through the connection with Jewish ancestors, might have adopted their current republican world view.
That's not as old as the original igbo story
Re: Why Are Igbo And Hindu Accounts Of Creation The Exact Same? by theInterpreter: 9:41pm On Sep 14, 2021
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Re: Why Are Igbo And Hindu Accounts Of Creation The Exact Same? by ComrdDRS1: 10:08pm On Sep 14, 2021
You guys are confusing me......
You mean....
Are you.....
As in what are we missing......



Please the confusion in the world is too much....
Some please should travel to before now and get exact info for us...... haba
Re: Why Are Igbo And Hindu Accounts Of Creation The Exact Same? by OdumegwuOjukwu: 11:43am On Sep 15, 2021
IduNaOba:

That's not as old as the original igbo story


How old is the original Igbo story?
Re: Why Are Igbo And Hindu Accounts Of Creation The Exact Same? by IduNaOba: 12:52am On Sep 16, 2021
OdumegwuOjukwu:



How old is the original Igbo story?

Millions of years old.
The story of ndị mbụ is very interesting mehn
Re: Why Are Igbo And Hindu Accounts Of Creation The Exact Same? by MrColdsweat: 1:20am On Sep 16, 2021
IduNaOba:

Let me shock you small
The original igbo race (ndị mbụ) came to earth with what they call ufo which is funny enough called (UFO) today.
They brought with them the technology of civilization
I once asked why the world is searching for aliens when igbos are aliens living here.
Of the ndị mbụ ancestors of ndị Igbo
There were 2 groups
Ushì aka akwụ (they went back to base).
Ushì aka ululu (the remained and later took on flessh to become humans and then multiplied)
AKA ululu points to the flesh or skin or body
AKA akwụ points to the spirit or energy without flesh

After ndị mbụ came ndị Abọ (the second ancestors)
They came after the tech of ndị mbụ were misused by those they taught from Ireland to India to China to other parts of Europe.
Firbolg
Tuatha de danam
Plaides
Danube
Etc etc
The second ancestors came to restore balance and in so doing brought about Nze na Ọzọ which became the first world democracy.

I won't delve too deep into these but I just wanted to let you know that the story of the Anunaki and aliens are actually corrupted versions of the original igbo story thats why the one I was telling here may sound familiar.

The moon was the base of the first ancestors of ndigbo (ndị mbụ) before they landed on ỌSHA MBALA (called shambala by tibetan shammans and belived to be the origin of civilization of man) using ufo (UFO in scientific terms of today)

The thing is that if I Should go deeper into igbo mysticism (it is mysticism today because we have lost alot as Humans) you will shock at how they tally with so many stuff you know about aliens.


I won't bother doing that anyways.
But just understand that igbo is not what many think .

Mundane igbo concepts are mysticism of other cultures
Afa of the igbo ancestors has been copied to many cultures..
Some call it
Ifa
Efa
Even afa too.
Ase of the igbo people is copied in other cultures too
Un/fortunately these things have been hidden to protect ndigbo until the new age.

Cheers

Open a thread and educate your people.

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Re: Why Are Igbo And Hindu Accounts Of Creation The Exact Same? by IduNaOba: 12:02pm On Sep 16, 2021
MrColdsweat:


Open a thread and educate your people.
This thread is doing just that nah.
The Op was asking a question about igbo cosmology and Indian cosmology.

Like we say in our place
Okwu na ebute okwu
Discussions lead to even more discussions
Re: Why Are Igbo And Hindu Accounts Of Creation The Exact Same? by Idiko1: 12:08pm On Sep 16, 2021
loveth360:
Don't mind them.



We yoruba have a good history that our ancestor, Oduduwa fall down from sky.

This is laughable. Anyway, it came from ill-educated mind.
Re: Why Are Igbo And Hindu Accounts Of Creation The Exact Same? by Mystic216: 2:00pm On Sep 16, 2021
Oga are you holding water in your mouth??
Forming useless accent that you were not born with
Mtcheew
Re: Why Are Igbo And Hindu Accounts Of Creation The Exact Same? by Zanzibar1: 2:08pm On Sep 16, 2021
SlyDev:
When ancestors fail to leave good history for children.... Children will claim every Tom Dick and Harry as their father

Hahahahha children of no history

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Re: Why Are Igbo And Hindu Accounts Of Creation The Exact Same? by BafanaBafana: 2:14pm On Sep 16, 2021
OdumegwuOjukwu:
@Op,

Most ancient history of creation story emanated from Mesopotamia. The Sumerians of Mesopotamia kept detailed account of 'creation' (of man)by their gods Annunakis (those from the sky), in their stone tablets. The bible creation story mirrors closely to the Sumerian's account of Anunanaki intervention in the affairs of earth, specifically the genetic modification of some primates to 'create' homo sapiens for use in their gold mining operations. Abraham was from Mesopotamia city of Ur, and he would have transmitted this knowledge to his children who codified it in the Bible and possibly Koran, with different twists (influenced by their Jewish God (Yaweh) who most likely is of Pleiadian origin. Humans who were 'created' in other places on earth (Southern Africa) most likely have a slightly different understanding of creation. Unfortunately many of these accounts are lost due to Christian and Muslim deliberate genocidal effort to destroy information/ideas/knowledge that contradict their versions.

Modern man owes it intellect to alien races - the Annunakis, Pleiadian, and others. These are worshiped today as the Gods - aliens species with powerful technology, who came to earth for other purposes (gold miners, and galactic warriors).

I believe we are more than we think we are, and death shouldn't have been something to fear, if not for the advent of Christianity and Islam.
Refer a text for me please
Re: Why Are Igbo And Hindu Accounts Of Creation The Exact Same? by 1000Capacity: 2:59pm On Sep 16, 2021
loveth360:
Na head he used land that's why we yoruba have cone head....
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Ok bros. E dey Savage. Weldone
Re: Why Are Igbo And Hindu Accounts Of Creation The Exact Same? by OdumegwuOjukwu: 6:41pm On Sep 16, 2021
Re: Why Are Igbo And Hindu Accounts Of Creation The Exact Same? by BafanaBafana: 7:51pm On Sep 16, 2021

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Re: Why Are Igbo And Hindu Accounts Of Creation The Exact Same? by rosinkkit: 8:33pm On Sep 16, 2021
The Sumerians, who were black people, referred to themselves as 'saggi gi', meaning 'black-headed people'.

Igbos today refer to black people in general as ''ndi issi ogi'' - black-headed people.

This amazing congruence lends real credibility to the linkages drawn between the Igbos and Sumerians.

I also find the term 'Annunaki' very Igbo-like in its spelling and tone.
Re: Why Are Igbo And Hindu Accounts Of Creation The Exact Same? by Ofodirinwa: 10:26pm On Sep 16, 2021
Why do our people constantly bastardize etymology? lol
Anytime you mention History and Igbo the next thing that will happen is someone will start bending words from somewhere else to make them sound like Igbo words or trying to make fake correlations.

Sagg gi Ishi Oji is not how linguistics work. Linguistics is a science that has a method for working out and if you're not a linguist or understand how languages relate to each other it's unbecoming to start drawing your own conclusions (and EXTREMELY dangerous).


Listen. History is like the owners manual of a building. If you buy a building, you want to know when it was inspected, when it was built, how many rooms it has, what the plumbing situation is, and any faults it has. You can use the facts about a building to know how many rooms, where the bathrooms are, if they function etc. The way you study something before buying it is the way you are supposed to study historic fact before speaking them.

Africans, very often Igbo people, come to history to make themselves feel special of feel good. So instead of using it to learn useful information, you start making up grandiose things about yourself and stating them like facts you're ready to prove which show a lack of respect for your own word. You will not sit in your home and make stuff up about a product you're about to buy, then based on what you made up rather than your investigation, buying it.

It is the same as buying a property, not asking any questions, not learning any real facts, not looking inside and taking a walk around. Just buying and jumping in. When you use history to examine real facts and seek real information as opposed to making up your own or drawing your own conclusions and treating them as facts, when that house collapses on you it will hit you buy surprise. Had you examined before buying you won't make a bad decision'

Example: The british examined Igboland during the colonial era and learned that fact that there was more people than edible meat. When it was time to fight the igbos (Biafra) they used this information to led a blockade of stockfish (the primary source of cheap protein) and cause a mass starvation that won them and Nigeria the ward.

Example: If IPOB or igbos as a whole were students of history, they would prepare to solve their protein issue before pushing for war or independence because of what happened last time. Instead we are using 'history' to say we are jews and mesopatamia is igbo and saggi ishi oji. When the next fight comes Saggi Gi Ishi Oji will not provide useable information because it's not real.

we learn history, the facts of history, so that we can make good decisions about the future. Nna, Saggi gi has no relationship to IShi Oji and that information that you made up or got from a bad source will not help you make decisions in the future.
Re: Why Are Igbo And Hindu Accounts Of Creation The Exact Same? by Ofodirinwa: 10:33pm On Sep 16, 2021
I posted this video because it's an interesting parallel. But the parallel was researched and can be proven as a fact that exists. You can USE this fact to build alliances and connections with people in the Hindu religion or culture and you can USE it to examine ideas that both cultures have about history.

'Annunaki sounds igboish' is not history, it's not linguistics. You may think it's small but you guys don't know the damage you're causing speaking on what you feel rather than facts. Then treating those feelings as facts. You can begin statements with 'I think' 'It's possible that' 'there's a chance that'.

You cannot enter a society with actual education standards and start talking about annunaki. The internet has made the western world and the african world very close and now they exchange info regularly. But the African world has no sense of context when it comes to the western world. When a black man goes man he starts picking up trash on the road, when a white man goes mad he starts talking about annunaki.

But you will just be taking it in and repeating it. Leave Nigeria and start talking about Annunaki if you don't believe me.
You will gain a lot more personally by seeking real history, asking real questions and respecting your own words then stating your notions as facts and making baseless connections. There is a method that history is studied and measured and it's far more rewarding than using your imagination like a child. The actual provable, examined history of igbo people is 100x more interesting than this annunaki, jew stuff or any thing your own imagination can create. Respect yourself enough to say 'i don't know' and seek the real facts. This goes for everyone in here making up theories improperly
Re: Why Are Igbo And Hindu Accounts Of Creation The Exact Same? by Napata77: 6:52am On Dec 27, 2022
OdumegwuOjukwu:


And it's actually possible that Oduduwa 'fell from the sky (heaven)'. It's all depends of how history is interpreted.

There was a major conflict on the Anunnaki mother-ship/control station (aka heaven) over control of the growing human population and gold mining operation, and some of them were evicted. So basically, those evicted had to go somewhere, and become something.

Boy, this your description of heaven is off the chain! grin
Re: Why Are Igbo And Hindu Accounts Of Creation The Exact Same? by Guide777(m): 8:27am On Dec 27, 2022
Re: Why Are Igbo And Hindu Accounts Of Creation The Exact Same? by OdumegwuOjukwu: 6:56am On Dec 28, 2022
Napata77:


Boy, this your description of heaven is off the chain! grin

It's because, you rely on Bible mainly for history. The Sumerian tablets predates the Bible by about 2000 years. Research Sumerian Tablets, and your perspective will change

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