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Re: 22 Doctrinal Beliefs Of Deeper Life Church by arantess: 1:43pm On Sep 19, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:if Jesus spoke about tithe, best believe it is equally expedient to do so But for HIm according to the passage it was not the weightier things if you dont want to tithe, then dont discourage those who want to tithe after all its not your resources and blessings arising from it wont be yours either |
Re: 22 Doctrinal Beliefs Of Deeper Life Church by Kobojunkie: 1:45pm On Sep 19, 2021 |
Singingbae:All you know is right and wrong according to the doctrines and traditions of men, but not of Jesus Christ. That is what indoctrination does to the minds raised in them... they latch on to moral values of men of this world, without real understanding the difference between that and that which God has in fact commanded in His Law, Jesus Christ. |
Re: 22 Doctrinal Beliefs Of Deeper Life Church by Kobojunkie: 1:46pm On Sep 19, 2021 |
Singingbae:No it is not! Speaking in tongues is a sign given to those who believe... while baptism of the Holy Spirit is to those who are Holy/Perfect in the sight of God. |
Re: 22 Doctrinal Beliefs Of Deeper Life Church by Kobojunkie: 1:47pm On Sep 19, 2021 |
ekwerendi:You left the church but has your mind been purged of the doctrines and traditions of the church which are of men and not of Jesus Christ? |
Re: 22 Doctrinal Beliefs Of Deeper Life Church by Kobojunkie: 1:48pm On Sep 19, 2021 |
LordIsaac:You are prescribing more doctrines and controls be added to check fractures in the churches doctrines? |
Re: 22 Doctrinal Beliefs Of Deeper Life Church by chiedonedoor(m): 1:50pm On Sep 19, 2021 |
Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, This is an hard saying; who can hear it?. John 6:60, know man is forcing you to believe, you have your choice, those are guild and principle that helps the church today to follow the way of the Lord |
Re: 22 Doctrinal Beliefs Of Deeper Life Church by emmyN(m): 1:50pm On Sep 19, 2021 |
Thereishel: Like the "devil's box" doctrine abi? |
Re: 22 Doctrinal Beliefs Of Deeper Life Church by emmyN(m): 1:51pm On Sep 19, 2021 |
Ayion: Did God come to you personally and whisper that in your ears? |
Re: 22 Doctrinal Beliefs Of Deeper Life Church by philiancoop(m): 1:55pm On Sep 19, 2021 |
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Re: 22 Doctrinal Beliefs Of Deeper Life Church by Kobojunkie: 2:06pm On Sep 19, 2021 |
ALEXTER:1. Paul's writings are not meant to be used as substitute for the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ in any way or form. That he, Paul, wrote of restitution between two parties in his letter of Philemon, should not then be reason for you or anyone to add to God's Law , Jesus Christ, as that is sin against God Himself. 2. Zaccheus was of the Old Covenant and did his restitution according to God's Old Covenant Law - Ezekiel 33 vs 9 - 20, hence the reason why Jesus Christ announced that salvation had come to him, Zaccheus, this again according to God's decree in the Old Covenant Law of Moses. To those who are of the New Covenant, and particularly those of Gentile birth, that kind of salvation is not available. Instead the kind that is available is the one preached by Jesus Christ who declared that those who love Him are those who submit to and obey His teachings and commandments. Since Jesus Christ did not in fact teach nor command restitution of that kind, any one who does it pretending he obtains salvation of some kind, does so against Jesus Christ. 3. Jesus Christ did not uphold monogamy. Instead He restated God's Law where marriage is concerned.... the same marriage law that has been from the beginning, even through the Old Covenant where God himself gave many wives to men even by that same law. Jesus Christ reiterated God's stipulation as far as the marriage contract, going on to also restate that marriage is a choice and not a mandate of any kind. 4. Sin in heaven? Jesus Christ told you that your marriages are of this world and not of the Kingdom of God so what gives you the idea that marriages will be reviewed on the day of judgement? When you die everything about your marriage dies with you... that is what Jesus Christ is telling you there in Luke 20 vs 34 - 36. There is no such thing as a reunion with your spouse and children in heaven and all the other lies you may have been fed. No, it all comes to an end the moment you die on this earth...why? Because your marriage is of this world and not of the Kingdom Kingdom God. |
Re: 22 Doctrinal Beliefs Of Deeper Life Church by Kobojunkie: 2:08pm On Sep 19, 2021 |
Ajibade123:Yes, because I belong only to Jesus Christ's Church, the one He built Himself and He is Head over. All your churches of this world are built by your pastors and GOs on the doctrines and traditions of men which Jesus Christ made known were all lies meant to deceive men away from following the Truth of God - Matthew 15 vs 1 - 14 and Mark 7 vs 1 - 23 |
Re: 22 Doctrinal Beliefs Of Deeper Life Church by ekwerendi(m): 2:09pm On Sep 19, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: They didn't have any tradition made of men, most of that is/was practiced in the church was scriptural.... Every pastor or man of God has it's own perception of interpreting or understanding the word of God and in most cases they put it up for their followers.... That being said,I am a child of God and bought by the blood of the lamb.. |
Re: 22 Doctrinal Beliefs Of Deeper Life Church by Kobojunkie: 2:11pm On Sep 19, 2021 |
thinkmoney:God didn't reject them and this because this because this church and all the other churches in this world were never of God to begin with. Instead they are men's businesses built on a foundation strewn with the doctrines and traditions of men ,lies, which decieve people away from following God's Truth. - Matthew 15 vs 1 - 14 and Mark 7 vs 1 - 23 1 Like |
Re: 22 Doctrinal Beliefs Of Deeper Life Church by Kobojunkie: 2:14pm On Sep 19, 2021 |
arantess:It is mentioned in a curse on the false teachers and false prophets who were judged for neglecting God's laws which they considered of little benefit to them, and you take this to mean Jesus Christ taught that you to tithe too? |
Re: 22 Doctrinal Beliefs Of Deeper Life Church by Kobojunkie: 2:20pm On Sep 19, 2021 |
chiedonedoor:Wrong! Those are doctrines and traditions of men which Jesus Christ warned were nothing but lies meant to deceive people away from following God's Truth - Matthew 15 vs 1 - 14 and Mark 7 vs 1 - 23 |
Re: 22 Doctrinal Beliefs Of Deeper Life Church by Kobojunkie: 2:26pm On Sep 19, 2021 |
ekwerendi:I am afraid you have indeed been indoctrinated and so the reason why you don't even realize what you say. There is only one Truth of God and one Law we are called to follow /live by, in the Kingdom of God, and that is Jesus Christ. Every other "perception" that does not exactly match that taught and commanded by Jesus Christ, is a lie. The doctrines and rules of your churches and your MOGs are lies where Jesus Christ is concerned since He alone is commander and ruler over those who belong to Him - no man has right or authority given to Him to teach any other doctrines or rules to those who are of His, Jesus Christ's Kingdom. Jesus Christ is the one and only Teacher, Ruler/Leader and authority over all those who belong to Him and it is what He has declared that we are each sent out to teach- nothing else. In fact, it is sin to add or remove from the Gospel/New Covenant Law of the Kingdom of God, in any way or form. 1 Like |
Re: 22 Doctrinal Beliefs Of Deeper Life Church by Kobojunkie: 2:48pm On Sep 19, 2021 |
arantess:But Jesus Christ didn't speak about tithes in much the same way He didn't speak of stoning of adulterers. Instead, Jesus Christ cursed false teachers and false prophets, who would as the Pharisees before them, neglect the weightier things of the Law, focusing instead of the parts that are of greater gain to them. In the New Covenant Law of the Kingdom of God, tithing is become a sin this since it is against Jesus Christ, God's New Covenant Law, to serve two masters , in this case the Old Covenant and and New Covenant at the same time. Jesus Christ warned us against attempting to store New Wine in Old Wine Skin, a practice that only leads to disastrous consequences for those who do so. |
Re: 22 Doctrinal Beliefs Of Deeper Life Church by Ayion: 2:51pm On Sep 19, 2021 |
emmyN:Yes |
Re: 22 Doctrinal Beliefs Of Deeper Life Church by emmyN(m): 2:56pm On Sep 19, 2021 |
Ayion: Liar. |
Re: 22 Doctrinal Beliefs Of Deeper Life Church by meetgaya: 3:00pm On Sep 19, 2021 |
Raptureminded: What is truth there? Any biblical support for that marriage restitution? This is deeper life doctrine and other churches but Bible. It is doctrine from hell to bind people of God who are sincere but sincerely wrong AABBIIMM: Sure bro and God bless you |
Re: 22 Doctrinal Beliefs Of Deeper Life Church by Ayion: 3:02pm On Sep 19, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:Did I quote any LAW in my write up? Genesis 2:25 25 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh. Matthew 19:5-6 5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they TWAIN shall be one flesh? 6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder. NOTE: Did the scripture say “they THREE or FOUR shall be one flesh?” No, stop stupid arguments. Y’all be looking for ways to justify your promiscuity 2 Likes |
Re: 22 Doctrinal Beliefs Of Deeper Life Church by Kobojunkie: 3:12pm On Sep 19, 2021 |
Ayion:I am afraid you are not reading it correctly yourself. The law, yes, that in Genesis 2 vs 25 and repeated in Matthew 19 vs 5 - 6 is God's Law were marriage is concerned. The Law does not stipulate that man/woman can only cleave to one woman/man nor does it say a man/woman cannot be one with any other woman/man. No. Instead it simply states that a man can cleave to a woman and the two become one- one marriage. Multiple marriages are not excluded and as such are not against God's Law. That is why God Himself, without violating His own Law on marriage, gave multiple wives to men in the Old Covenant, never counting it as sin against them. In Exodus, as part of His Old Covenant, God also included laws that allowed the marrying of slave wives also referred to as concubines - in which case the decision to cleave is not made by the slave but likely made by the one who owns the slave. |
Re: 22 Doctrinal Beliefs Of Deeper Life Church by Ayion: 3:15pm On Sep 19, 2021 |
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Re: 22 Doctrinal Beliefs Of Deeper Life Church by Ayion: 3:16pm On Sep 19, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: Where did I accept some teachings and leave others? I’m saying that you should know the things that makes you commit sin and keep away from it if you know For instance, Drinking is not bad but when you drink you are tempted to take it in excess and as a result you get drunk, So why not avoid drinking alcohol totally since you know you can’t control yourself? This is what I mean |
Re: 22 Doctrinal Beliefs Of Deeper Life Church by Kobojunkie: 3:21pm On Sep 19, 2021 |
Ayion:And i am saying that Jesus Christ said it is not the drinking of alcohol that makes you sin but instead the lies(doctrines and traditions of men) you have stored up in your heart that causes you to sin. That is what Jesus Christ, the same one who you quote in Matthew 5 vs 30, also goes on to explain to you in Matthew 15 vs 10 - 20 |
Re: 22 Doctrinal Beliefs Of Deeper Life Church by Ayion: 3:37pm On Sep 19, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: Please take note of which is God’s laws and Moses’s laws. Remember Jesus said it was because of the hardness of their hearts that moses allowed them of old to do somethings which was not the original plan of God Also, if you are making claims show bible verses to backup your claims. Now I want you to carry out this practical, -Get an orange. -Cut it into two halves -Now through away one half Ok, now how many halves do you need to make the one in your hand a whole again? |
Re: 22 Doctrinal Beliefs Of Deeper Life Church by Ayion: 3:43pm On Sep 19, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: Kobojunkie: |
Re: 22 Doctrinal Beliefs Of Deeper Life Church by FarmTech(m): 3:50pm On Sep 19, 2021 |
ZKOSOSO:. U are hailing that guy? Someone who encourage polygamy, dirty songs and dirty jokes, immodest dresses and a lot more. If u know him at all, you'll know that he is a wolf in sheep's clothing. 2 Likes |
Re: 22 Doctrinal Beliefs Of Deeper Life Church by Kobojunkie: 4:00pm On Sep 19, 2021 |
Ayion:1. God is God of Laws/Covenants/agreements. And from the very beginning, God's interaction/relationships with men have been through His Laws to them. Bible verses to back up the claims that God ... ■...allows the marrying of slave wives in His Old Covenant - Exodus 21 vs 1 - 11 ■...gave David wives - 2 Samuel 12 vs 8 ■ ... God against kings having too many wives - Deuteronomy 17 vs 14 - 17 2. Your orange exercise does not make sense in this case at all. God told you a man and woman make one marriage....He never told you that one man/woman can only unite with one woman/man. And He, God, goes on to showing you this through His dealings with His servants and peoples. He never castigates them for taking wives or husbands. He even admitted to giving wives to His servant. Since God is faithful to His own Covenant, you need to try to keep up with God instead of trying to make God conform to your ideas and understanding. |
Re: 22 Doctrinal Beliefs Of Deeper Life Church by subcbouy: 4:01pm On Sep 19, 2021 |
Kobojunkiee:You are funny. Someone's belief you call false and yourself is true, right? |
Re: 22 Doctrinal Beliefs Of Deeper Life Church by Kobojunkie: 4:04pm On Sep 19, 2021 |
subcbouy:No, the Truth is Jesus Christ. Every other doctrine and traditions that does not conform to His Truth is a lie. |
Re: 22 Doctrinal Beliefs Of Deeper Life Church by subcbouy: 4:09pm On Sep 19, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:Don't they talk about Jesus Christ? Can you tell us your doctrine then? |
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