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Re: 22 Doctrinal Beliefs Of Deeper Life Church by arantess: 1:43pm On Sep 19, 2021
Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ spoke of tithes in relation to those of the Old Covenant Law of Moses, not His followers and certainly not Gentiles. undecided
if Jesus spoke about tithe, best believe it is equally expedient to do so
But for HIm according to the passage it was not the weightier things
if you dont want to tithe, then dont discourage those who want to tithe

after all its not your resources and blessings arising from it wont be yours either
Re: 22 Doctrinal Beliefs Of Deeper Life Church by Kobojunkie: 1:45pm On Sep 19, 2021
Singingbae:
Truth be told, if you’re born and bred in deeper life as I am. You can know what’s wrong and right. You can attend any denomination and know what’s true or wrong. The doctrines are apt, tho I don’t attend the church I once went to for good 21 years but I always find time to attend Monday Bible Studies. Even non church members attend on Mondays
All you know is right and wrong according to the doctrines and traditions of men, but not of Jesus Christ. That is what indoctrination does to the minds raised in them... they latch on to moral values of men of this world, without real understanding the difference between that and that which God has in fact commanded in His Law, Jesus Christ. undecided
Re: 22 Doctrinal Beliefs Of Deeper Life Church by Kobojunkie: 1:46pm On Sep 19, 2021
Singingbae:

That’s Holy Ghost Baptism
No it is not! Speaking in tongues is a sign given to those who believe... while baptism of the Holy Spirit is to those who are Holy/Perfect in the sight of God. undecided
Re: 22 Doctrinal Beliefs Of Deeper Life Church by Kobojunkie: 1:47pm On Sep 19, 2021
ekwerendi:

I grew up in Deeperlife,I spent my first 20years there,it was an amazing experience...my life was a near perfect state, but I left because of some irreconcilable issues bothering on restitution of my parents... But I must say if I go contrary to what I'm suppose to do, it's not that I don't know,but flesh totally taking over me... They really moulded me..
You left the church but has your mind been purged of the doctrines and traditions of the church which are of men and not of Jesus Christ? undecided
Re: 22 Doctrinal Beliefs Of Deeper Life Church by Kobojunkie: 1:48pm On Sep 19, 2021
LordIsaac:
They should work on truly loving people and must stop being judgemental. Lastly, they MUST work on their marriage committee...they are driving people away from the church with reckless abandon.
You are prescribing more doctrines and controls be added to check fractures in the churches doctrines? shocked
Re: 22 Doctrinal Beliefs Of Deeper Life Church by chiedonedoor(m): 1:50pm On Sep 19, 2021
Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, This is an hard saying; who can hear it?. John 6:60, know man is forcing you to believe, you have your choice, those are guild and principle that helps the church today to follow the way of the Lord
Re: 22 Doctrinal Beliefs Of Deeper Life Church by emmyN(m): 1:50pm On Sep 19, 2021
Thereishel:
Point of correction please. It's not deeper life bible church doctrines but it is the bible doctrines ordained and commanded by God. There are still some narrow way churches that embraced this God ordained doctrines.

Like the "devil's box" doctrine abi?
Re: 22 Doctrinal Beliefs Of Deeper Life Church by emmyN(m): 1:51pm On Sep 19, 2021
Ayion:

Your first wife is the only one God recognizes as your wife as long as she is still alive and marriage vows are not broken.
But this doesn’t mean the man should not take care of his children with the second wife if they had any before his repentance nor does it mean he should not help the woman if she is in need and he is capable.
Don’t misunderstand

Did God come to you personally and whisper that in your ears?
Re: 22 Doctrinal Beliefs Of Deeper Life Church by philiancoop(m): 1:55pm On Sep 19, 2021
greencard:

1- The Holy Bible -Authoritative √

2 - The God Head(Trinity) —True √

3- The Virgin Birth Of Jesus Christ —True √

4) Total Depravity of man —True √

5- Repentance—Repentance means a change in mind, hence it means to believe in salvation through Jesus. That's all. Wrongly thought to mean changing acts of moral wrong.

6- Restitution— very false ×

7- Justification —for those that only believe and confess salvation through Jesus. That's all

8-Water Baptism —Unnecessary. Only believing in salvation through Jesus matters.

9-Lords Super —Just a tradition

10- Sanctification —Learning more on the realities of salvation through Jesus. Gradual and never ending. Falsely taught to be once and instant

11- Holy Ghost Baptism —Same as belief in the salvation through Jesus. And then tongues follow.

12- Redemption —salvation through Jesus by faith alone.

13- Personal Evangelism —is this a doctrine? Or a lifestyle?

14- Marriage (monogamy )— very false and inconsequential to the agenda of the church. Marriage is secular and of this world. It's like going for a degree or any other life activity

15- Rapture —a true event. But timing is still unclear to me.

16- Resurrection of The dead—same thing as Above

17- Great Tribulation—same thing as Above.

18- Second Coming of Jesus Christ—same thing as above

19- Christ Millennial Reign —same thing as above

20- Great White Throne Judgement— same thing as above

21- New Heaven and New Earth—same thing as above

22 - Hell Fire—Not for anyone who believes in Salvation through Jesus
Re: 22 Doctrinal Beliefs Of Deeper Life Church by Kobojunkie: 2:06pm On Sep 19, 2021
ALEXTER:
1. i may not be able to comment on your post point after point, I also feel your pains in a way. Why you took time to write this much. Although, we must not dilute the truth lest it'll not be truth anymore. To start with, the whole book of Philemon teaches restitution I hope you know it came in the new covenant.

2. again, Zaccheus did restitution even up to four folds. I thought Jesus will say it is too much bro the matter has not gotten to that nah! But rather he affirmed that today has salvation enters your house. Be careful lest you use common sense to serve God and not faith as supposed.

3. May I tell you, Jesus uphold monogamy in Matthew 19:4-6.

4. Do you again mean people will be judge by sins they commit in heaven? It is how you live in the body while on earth that you will be judged. Though there will be no marriage in heaven, marriages on earth shall be reviewed on the day of judgement. Finally, as christian youth, let us contribute to rather preserve the true teachings of Christ and not lean after our desires or perceptions. Thanks
1. Paul's writings are not meant to be used as substitute for the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ in any way or form. That he, Paul, wrote of restitution between two parties in his letter of Philemon, should not then be reason for you or anyone to add to God's Law , Jesus Christ, as that is sin against God Himself. undecided

2. Zaccheus was of the Old Covenant and did his restitution according to God's Old Covenant Law - Ezekiel 33 vs 9 - 20, hence the reason why Jesus Christ announced that salvation had come to him, Zaccheus, this again according to God's decree in the Old Covenant Law of Moses.

To those who are of the New Covenant, and particularly those of Gentile birth, that kind of salvation is not available. Instead the kind that is available is the one preached by Jesus Christ who declared that those who love Him are those who submit to and obey His teachings and commandments. Since Jesus Christ did not in fact teach nor command restitution of that kind, any one who does it pretending he obtains salvation of some kind, does so against Jesus Christ. undecided

3. Jesus Christ did not uphold monogamy. Instead He restated God's Law where marriage is concerned.... the same marriage law that has been from the beginning, even through the Old Covenant where God himself gave many wives to men even by that same law. undecided
Jesus Christ reiterated God's stipulation as far as the marriage contract, going on to also restate that marriage is a choice and not a mandate of any kind. undecided

4. Sin in heaven? Jesus Christ told you that your marriages are of this world and not of the Kingdom of God so what gives you the idea that marriages will be reviewed on the day of judgement? When you die everything about your marriage dies with you... that is what Jesus Christ is telling you there in Luke 20 vs 34 - 36. undecided

There is no such thing as a reunion with your spouse and children in heaven and all the other lies you may have been fed. No, it all comes to an end the moment you die on this earth...why? Because your marriage is of this world and not of the Kingdom Kingdom God. undecided
Re: 22 Doctrinal Beliefs Of Deeper Life Church by Kobojunkie: 2:08pm On Sep 19, 2021
Ajibade123:

but you and your Church are on par with the teaching of Jesus Christ right
Yes, because I belong only to Jesus Christ's Church, the one He built Himself and He is Head over. undecided

All your churches of this world are built by your pastors and GOs on the doctrines and traditions of men which Jesus Christ made known were all lies meant to deceive men away from following the Truth of God - Matthew 15 vs 1 - 14 and Mark 7 vs 1 - 23 undecided
Re: 22 Doctrinal Beliefs Of Deeper Life Church by ekwerendi(m): 2:09pm On Sep 19, 2021
Kobojunkie:
You left the church but has your mind been purged of the doctrines and traditions of the church which are of men and not of Jesus Christ? undecided


They didn't have any tradition made of men, most of that is/was practiced in the church was scriptural.... Every pastor or man of God has it's own perception of interpreting or understanding the word of God and in most cases they put it up for their followers.... That being said,I am a child of God and bought by the blood of the lamb..
Re: 22 Doctrinal Beliefs Of Deeper Life Church by Kobojunkie: 2:11pm On Sep 19, 2021
thinkmoney:

I was born in the church. Its shaped my mindset. However, God has rejected it like it has rejected most other churches because of the number 2 doctrine-Trinity. Its blasphemy and an abuse of Gods identity and personality. It's far from what the bible teaches.
God didn't reject them and this because this because this church and all the other churches in this world were never of God to begin with. Instead they are men's businesses built on a foundation strewn with the doctrines and traditions of men ,lies, which decieve people away from following God's Truth. - Matthew 15 vs 1 - 14 and Mark 7 vs 1 - 23 undecided

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Re: 22 Doctrinal Beliefs Of Deeper Life Church by Kobojunkie: 2:14pm On Sep 19, 2021
arantess:

Matt 23, 23

Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you tithe mint, dill, and cumin , and have neglected the weightier matters of the law: justice and mercy and faith. It is these you ought to have practiced without neglecting the others. You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel!
It is mentioned in a curse on the false teachers and false prophets who were judged for neglecting God's laws which they considered of little benefit to them, and you take this to mean Jesus Christ taught that you to tithe too? undecided
Re: 22 Doctrinal Beliefs Of Deeper Life Church by Kobojunkie: 2:20pm On Sep 19, 2021
chiedonedoor:
Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, This is an hard saying; who can hear it?. John 6:60, know man is forcing you to believe, you have your choice, those are guild and principle that helps the church today to follow the way of the Lord
Wrong! Those are doctrines and traditions of men which Jesus Christ warned were nothing but lies meant to deceive people away from following God's Truth - Matthew 15 vs 1 - 14 and Mark 7 vs 1 - 23 undecided
Re: 22 Doctrinal Beliefs Of Deeper Life Church by Kobojunkie: 2:26pm On Sep 19, 2021
ekwerendi:
They didn't have any tradition made of men, most of that is/was practiced in the church was scriptural.... Every pastor or man of God has it's own perception of interpreting or understanding the word of God and in most cases they put it up for their followers.... That being said,I am a child of God and bought by the blood of the lamb..
I am afraid you have indeed been indoctrinated and so the reason why you don't even realize what you say. undecided

There is only one Truth of God and one Law we are called to follow /live by, in the Kingdom of God, and that is Jesus Christ. Every other "perception" that does not exactly match that taught and commanded by Jesus Christ, is a lie. undecided
The doctrines and rules of your churches and your MOGs are lies where Jesus Christ is concerned since He alone is commander and ruler over those who belong to Him - no man has right or authority given to Him to teach any other doctrines or rules to those who are of His, Jesus Christ's Kingdom. undecided

Jesus Christ is the one and only Teacher, Ruler/Leader and authority over all those who belong to Him and it is what He has declared that we are each sent out to teach- nothing else. In fact, it is sin to add or remove from the Gospel/New Covenant Law of the Kingdom of God, in any way or form. undecided

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Re: 22 Doctrinal Beliefs Of Deeper Life Church by Kobojunkie: 2:48pm On Sep 19, 2021
arantess:

if Jesus spoke about tithe, best believe it is equally expedient to do so
But for HIm according to the passage it was not the weightier things
if you dont want to tithe, then dont discourage those who want to tithe

after all its not your resources and blessings arising from it wont be yours either
But Jesus Christ didn't speak about tithes in much the same way He didn't speak of stoning of adulterers. undecided

Instead, Jesus Christ cursed false teachers and false prophets, who would as the Pharisees before them, neglect the weightier things of the Law, focusing instead of the parts that are of greater gain to them. undecided

In the New Covenant Law of the Kingdom of God, tithing is become a sin this since it is against Jesus Christ, God's New Covenant Law, to serve two masters , in this case the Old Covenant and and New Covenant at the same time. Jesus Christ warned us against attempting to store New Wine in Old Wine Skin, a practice that only leads to disastrous consequences for those who do so. undecided
Re: 22 Doctrinal Beliefs Of Deeper Life Church by Ayion: 2:51pm On Sep 19, 2021
emmyN:

Did God come to you personally and whisper that in your ears?
Yes
Re: 22 Doctrinal Beliefs Of Deeper Life Church by emmyN(m): 2:56pm On Sep 19, 2021
Ayion:


Yes

Liar.
Re: 22 Doctrinal Beliefs Of Deeper Life Church by meetgaya: 3:00pm On Sep 19, 2021
Raptureminded:
The truth is always the truth sir... Though it is hard... May God help us

What is truth there? Any biblical support for that marriage restitution? This is deeper life doctrine and other churches but Bible.
It is doctrine from hell to bind people of God who are sincere but sincerely wrong

AABBIIMM:

Truth that says for the man to make heaven he has to divorce his wives and hold on to only the first wife abi.
You'll be shocked that polygamist will make heaven on that day.
If he was already a polygamist before he became born again, and he paid the bride price for those wives, then the did is already done. He should stick with them. At least the wives and children will become born again and saved. What is the need of putting them away?
If your doctrine leads to someone going far from God then something is really wrong.

Sure bro and God bless you
Re: 22 Doctrinal Beliefs Of Deeper Life Church by Ayion: 3:02pm On Sep 19, 2021
Kobojunkie:
That is a lie and has nothing to do with God but is of the doctrines and traditions of the men you follow. undecided

If you have ever in fact studied the Old Covenant Law of Moses, you would know that where marriage is concerned, God never made such laws as the one you spew even here. undecided
Did I quote any LAW in my write up?

Genesis 2:25
25 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

Matthew 19:5-6
5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they TWAIN shall be one flesh?

6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.

NOTE: Did the scripture say “they THREE or FOUR shall be one flesh?” No, stop stupid arguments.
Y’all be looking for ways to justify your promiscuity

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Re: 22 Doctrinal Beliefs Of Deeper Life Church by Kobojunkie: 3:12pm On Sep 19, 2021
Ayion:

Did I quote any LAW in my write up?

Genesis 2:25
25 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

Matthew 19:5-6
5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they TWAIN shall be one flesh?

6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.

NOTE: Did the scripture say “they THREE or FOUR shall be one flesh?” No, stop stupid arguments.
I am afraid you are not reading it correctly yourself. The law, yes, that in Genesis 2 vs 25 and repeated in Matthew 19 vs 5 - 6 is God's Law were marriage is concerned. undecided

The Law does not stipulate that man/woman can only cleave to one woman/man nor does it say a man/woman cannot be one with any other woman/man. No. Instead it simply states that a man can cleave to a woman and the two become one- one marriage. Multiple marriages are not excluded and as such are not against God's Law. undecided

That is why God Himself, without violating His own Law on marriage, gave multiple wives to men in the Old Covenant, never counting it as sin against them. In Exodus, as part of His Old Covenant, God also included laws that allowed the marrying of slave wives also referred to as concubines - in which case the decision to cleave is not made by the slave but likely made by the one who owns the slave. undecided
Re: 22 Doctrinal Beliefs Of Deeper Life Church by Ayion: 3:15pm On Sep 19, 2021
Kobojunkie:
And what is it that makes you sin? According to Jesus Christ, it is not the outwards things but the lies stories up in one's heart that causes one to sin - Matthew 15 vs 10 - 20. undecided

Never take only a part of Jesus Christ's teachings, ignoring the rest. His Law is All or Nothing...you have to accept it all or don't even bother accept it at all. undecided
Re: 22 Doctrinal Beliefs Of Deeper Life Church by Ayion: 3:16pm On Sep 19, 2021
Kobojunkie:
And what is it that makes you sin? According to Jesus Christ, it is not the outwards things but the lies stories up in one's heart that causes one to sin - Matthew 15 vs 10 - 20. undecided

Never take only a part of Jesus Christ's teachings, ignoring the rest. His Law is All or Nothing...you have to accept it all or don't even bother accept it at all. undecided

Where did I accept some teachings and leave others?
I’m saying that you should know the things that makes you commit sin and keep away from it if you know

For instance,
Drinking is not bad but when you drink you are tempted to take it in excess and as a result you get drunk, So why not avoid drinking alcohol totally since you know you can’t control yourself?
This is what I mean
Re: 22 Doctrinal Beliefs Of Deeper Life Church by Kobojunkie: 3:21pm On Sep 19, 2021
Ayion:

Where did I accept some teachings and leave others?
I’m saying that you should know the things that makes you commit sin and keep away from it if you know

For instance,
Drinking is not bad but when you drink you are tempted to take it in excess and as a result you get drunk, So why not avoid drinking alcohol totally since you know you can’t control yourself?
This is what I mean
And i am saying that Jesus Christ said it is not the drinking of alcohol that makes you sin but instead the lies(doctrines and traditions of men) you have stored up in your heart that causes you to sin. undecided

That is what Jesus Christ, the same one who you quote in Matthew 5 vs 30, also goes on to explain to you in Matthew 15 vs 10 - 20 undecided
Re: 22 Doctrinal Beliefs Of Deeper Life Church by Ayion: 3:37pm On Sep 19, 2021
Kobojunkie:
I am afraid you are not reading it correctly yourself. The law, yes, that in Genesis 2 vs 25 and repeated in Matthew 19 vs 5 - 6 is God's Law were marriage is concerned. undecided

The Law does not stipulate that man/woman can only cleave to one woman/man nor does it say a man/woman cannot be one with any other woman/man. No. Instead it simply states that a man can cleave to a woman and the two become one- one marriage. Multiple marriages are not excluded and as such are not against God's Law. undecided

That is why God Himself, without violating His own Law on marriage, gave multiple wives to men in the Old Covenant, never counting it as sin against them. In Exodus, as part of His Old Covenant, God also included laws that allowed the marrying of slave wives also referred to as concubines - in which case the decision to cleave is not made by the slave but likely made by the one who owns the slave. undecided

Please take note of which is God’s laws and Moses’s laws. Remember Jesus said it was because of the hardness of their hearts that moses allowed them of old to do somethings which was not the original plan of God
Also, if you are making claims show bible verses to backup your claims.

Now I want you to carry out this practical,
-Get an orange.
-Cut it into two halves
-Now through away one half
Ok, now how many halves do you need to make the one in your hand a whole again?
Re: 22 Doctrinal Beliefs Of Deeper Life Church by Ayion: 3:43pm On Sep 19, 2021
Kobojunkie:
And i am saying that Jesus Christ said it is not the drinking of alcohol that makes you sin but instead the lies(doctrines and traditions of men) you have stored up in your heart that causes you to sin. undecided

That is what Jesus Christ, the same one who you quote in Matthew 5 vs 30, also goes on to explain to you in Matthew 15 vs 10 - 20 undecided

undecided
Kobojunkie:
And i am saying that Jesus Christ said it is not the drinking of alcohol that makes you sin but instead the lies(doctrines and traditions of men) you have stored up in your heart that causes you to sin. undecided

That is what Jesus Christ, the same one who you quote in Matthew 5 vs 30, also goes on to explain to you in Matthew 15 vs 10 - 20 undecided
Re: 22 Doctrinal Beliefs Of Deeper Life Church by FarmTech(m): 3:50pm On Sep 19, 2021
ZKOSOSO:


Just a kobo junkie......vibrations.....!!
.
U are hailing that guy? Someone who encourage polygamy, dirty songs and dirty jokes, immodest dresses and a lot more. If u know him at all, you'll know that he is a wolf in sheep's clothing.

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Re: 22 Doctrinal Beliefs Of Deeper Life Church by Kobojunkie: 4:00pm On Sep 19, 2021
Ayion:

1.Please take note of which is God’s laws and Moses’s laws. Remember Jesus said it was because of the hardness of their hearts that moses allowed them of old to do somethings which was not the original plan of God

2. Also, if you are making claims show bible verses to backup your claims.

2. Now I want you to carry out this practical,
-Get an orange.
-Cut it into two halves
-Now through away one half
Ok, now how many halves do you need to make the one in your hand a whole again?
1. God is God of Laws/Covenants/agreements. And from the very beginning, God's interaction/relationships with men have been through His Laws to them. undecided

Bible verses to back up the claims that God ...

■...allows the marrying of slave wives in His Old Covenant - Exodus 21 vs 1 - 11
■...gave David wives - 2 Samuel 12 vs 8
■ ... God against kings having too many wives - Deuteronomy 17 vs 14 - 17

2. Your orange exercise does not make sense in this case at all. undecided

God told you a man and woman make one marriage....He never told you that one man/woman can only unite with one woman/man. And He, God, goes on to showing you this through His dealings with His servants and peoples. He never castigates them for taking wives or husbands. He even admitted to giving wives to His servant. Since God is faithful to His own Covenant, you need to try to keep up with God instead of trying to make God conform to your ideas and understanding. undecided
Re: 22 Doctrinal Beliefs Of Deeper Life Church by subcbouy: 4:01pm On Sep 19, 2021
Kobojunkiee:
Right off the bat...I point out the more obvious false doctrines taught by the church. Next, we can analyze the details of the rest to understand why they are also not on par with the teachings of Jesus Christ. undecided
You are funny. Someone's belief you call false and yourself is true, right?
Re: 22 Doctrinal Beliefs Of Deeper Life Church by Kobojunkie: 4:04pm On Sep 19, 2021
subcbouy:
You are funny. Someone's belief you call false and yourself is true, right?
No, the Truth is Jesus Christ. Every other doctrine and traditions that does not conform to His Truth is a lie. undecided
Re: 22 Doctrinal Beliefs Of Deeper Life Church by subcbouy: 4:09pm On Sep 19, 2021
Kobojunkie:
No, the Truth is Jesus Christ. Every other doctrine and tradition that does not conform to His Truth is a lie. undecided
Don't they talk about Jesus Christ? Can you tell us your doctrine then?

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