cuddling44:
Good morning my ogas in d house... pls sir am trying to mould my block on my site in kwara state due to finances.. wen i but d land last year November 4cornerpie 9"block was 180... dis year April 9inches was 200.. as at now is 270,300. And I need like 2000 9inches block.. if i should mould manually it will be 341,000 , (workmanship is 700 per bag but promised to give him 1000) i contracted a machine block moulder man dis is d quotation he sent.. which should i use pls. He is bringing d machine to my site and is d same ilorin.. owe much should i pay him last....

COST OF PRODUCING 2,000 BLOCKS 9"
Block sand 40tns@#2,400=#96,000
Cement 50bgs@#3,500=#175,000
Workmanship=#200,000 water=19000
Total=#490,000
@spyder,@egunmogaji@next@kolashange one pls advise me, am working on a tight budget

A guy molding on site using machine in my area do charge 60 naira per block. Molding 2,000 blocks, will cost 120,000.

michlins:
Good evening everyone.

Please I need your help and advice both professionally and by experience.

I recently did a 40ft tank stand for a client and there are going to be six(6) 750 gallons. The issue is that the plumber said the client should buy a pumping machine after buying a sumo.

So my question is,is that necessary. Isn't the sumo enough to pump water to the tanks and then gravity will bring it down. The plumber is saying that the sumo can't do that job effectively and should be supported by a pumping machine.

Is this the project you are handling in my home town?

Nero2424:


Is this the project you are handling in my home town?

finished with the project. I just think that the sumo is enough and no need for another pumping machine. That's why I'm seeking opinion of experts here

michlins:
finished with the project. I just think that the sumo is enough and no need for another pumping machine. That's why I'm seeking opinion of experts here

Ok

somehow:
I plan to build a mini estate with like 1 and 2 bedroom detached flats instead of being in the form of apartments or terraces.

I cherish privacy which makes me believe there are people with same taste but can't build at a go.

How viable is this?

Note : On the mainland.

It depends on how cheap the land is. Building detached 1 bed flat in Lagos mainland is not viable.

One of my friend here recently raised 30 flats on 1 plots of land in mainland.

opes:



A guy molding on site using machine in my area do charge 60 naira per block. Molding 2,000 blocks, will cost 120,000.

Tanks for d infos sir..... he insisted on 200k last and his boys are going to be doing d work for 2days and i will hire someone myself for d wetting.... d 200k is outrageous to me for two days... d mould is 700 per bag so 50 bags will be 35000. I will be going 4d manual moulder

cuddling44:


Tanks for d infos sir..... he insisted on 200k last and his boys are going to be doing d work for 2days and i will hire someone myself for d wetting.... d 200k is outrageous to me for two days... d mould is 700 per bag so 50 bags will be 35000. I will be going 4d manual moulder

sometimes at work, what you're actually paying for is the pace at which the work is moving.

With the the machine, you will have your blocks ready in two days and can move on with your project. But with manual mould, two weeks might not be enough.

So it all boils down to when you want to get the job done with. I remember someone giving me a job and asking me how much I want to ensure it's completed before schedule. He was willing to pay to make it happen.

micgray100:


I love this.. This will be nice for young guys still leaving in face me I slap you houses heavily populated cities like Lagos...
Just buy quarter plot of land, put this inside.. you self don turn landlord.... Lobatan..

Then they start inviting you for Association of Landlords Meeting in your area..

But make sure they don't come to your house for next meeting o.....

[quote author=michlins post=106014854] sometimes at work, what you're actually paying for is the pace at which the work is moving.

With the the machine, you will have your blocks ready in two days and can move on with your project. But with manual mould, two weeks might not be enough.

So it all boils down to when you want to get the job done with. I remember someone giving me a job and asking me how much I want to ensure it's completed before schedule. He was willing to pay to make it happen.
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Thanks sir.. but d 150k difference is enuf to add on other expenses sir..
D hand mould guy said he will do 10bags per day..

[quote author=cuddling44 post=106015410][/quote]a contractor under pressure to deliver will comfortably swallow it to ensure he delivers

Hello my people, I dey available if it's show, either M&E design or installation, any one we are good to go,

somehow:


Nice one sir.

Any subscription yet and do you think its worth investing into?

How many plots can handle lets say 10 each?

It's not completed yet so no subscriptions though I have interests from the train staff. I have two buildings at roofing stage. In my opinion it's worth investing into. Theres a shortage of proper housing in Nigeria. My focus is not even on people from Ibadan, my focus is on people from Lagos.

I managed to fit three units (each consisting of One bedroom and Two Bedroom SmartFlats) on a plot.

micgray100:


I love this.. This will be nice for young guys still leaving in face me I slap you houses heavily populated cities like Lagos...
Just buy quarter plot of land, put this inside.. you self don turn landlord.... Lobatan..

Then they start inviting you for Association of Landlords Meeting in your area..

But make sure they don't come to your house for next meeting o.....

It can easily be increased in size to 24 X 30 feet, standard garage size.

[quote author=cuddling44 post=106015410][/quote]

Madam, mould your blocks manually except you have the money to throw away.

Talking about speed, you can get two moulders and in 3/4 days your blocks are ready

cuddling44:


Tanks for d infos sir..... he insisted on 200k last and his boys are going to be doing d work for 2days and i will hire someone myself for d wetting.... d 200k is outrageous to me for two days... d mould is 700 per bag so 50 bags will be 35000. I will be going 4d manual moulder

Madam mould your blocks manually except you have the money to throw away.

Talking about speed, you can get two moulders and in 3/4 days your blocks are ready.

cuddling44:
Good morning my ogas in d house... pls sir am trying to mould my block on my site in kwara state due to finances.. wen i but d land last year November 4cornerpie 9"block was 180... dis year April 9inches was 200.. as at now is 270,300. And I need like 2000 9inches block.. if i should mould manually it will be 341,000 , (workmanship is 700 per bag but promised to give him 1000) i contracted a machine block moulder man dis is d quotation he sent.. which should i use pls. He is bringing d machine to my site and is d same ilorin.. owe much should i pay him last....

COST OF PRODUCING 2,000 BLOCKS 9"
Block sand 40tns@#2,400=#96,000
Cement 50bgs@#3,500=#175,000
Workmanship=#200,000 water=19000
Total=#490,000
@spyder,@egunmogaji@next@kolashange one pls advise me, am working on a tight budget

Find out where you can rent an electric machine and pallets around you. No matter how expensive the person is, he can’t charge you more than 1,200 per bag of cement.
Rent one and get boys to produce your block for you. If you’re too generous, you’ll pay 1,500 per bag of cement to the operator and labourers. The standard rate here in Lagos is 1,000 per bag.

The man is just trying to sell block to you and not assisting you in anyway.

Take note, if he’s going the block in his shop, he’ll still have to pay laborers to wet the blocks, stack it and transport it to various destinations.

Producing at your site should be way cheaper. Maybe around 400k for the 2,000 blocks.
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If you’re doing hand mould, get a moulder that comes highly recommended. If they can achieve 10 bags a day, that’s a good one.
_____________

Remember it’s raining season though. Someone looking to make quick money won’t tell you this is not a good time for experimentation.

Give yourself a little more time for the raining season to be over. Buy all your materials now. Cement is cheaper now. Wait till after the rains to mould your blocks.

If you’re sure of a fair weather though, just go ahead with your moulding.

Wishing you all the best.

Hatesin:


Madam mould your blocks manually except you have the money to throw away.

Talking about speed, you can get two moulders and in 3/4 days your blocks are ready.

Fair enough but what about space requirement.

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n3xt:


Fair enough but what about space requirement.

She didn't complain about space, hence, the presumption that she has enough space.

Besides, one must not own a football field before one can mould blocks. I traveled home this weekend to see my parents only to meet the compound partly covered with blocks. What was happening? Our boundary neighbor was building and he begged to extend the moulding to our own compound which my parents obliged him

michlins:
finished with the project. I just think that the sumo is enough and no need for another pumping machine. That's why I'm seeking opinion of experts here

A lot of things are involved.especially the specs of the sumo. That is the major determinant. I have seen a sumo supplying 6 overhead tanks for a 2 storey block of flats, no additional pumping machine.

Get the specs of the sumo and post and water depth.of the borehole. Also the pumping machine could be added later if its observed that its needed..no need adding it from the get go..since u are not sure

I think I agree with you based on my experience. Base coat ready mix putty hasnt shown any sign of peeling or cracking but the cement screed used to round up the work has peeled on exposure to weather. 4 months now

gbadexy:

Most part of my experience comes from feedback from my painters and screeders who are actually on the field and encounter various challenges.
My main screeder told me he doesn't like working with or building screeded with portland cement ( grey cement).
He said after a couple of years, they tend to peel and fall off. They have tendency to crack also, especially if cheaply done with little p.v.a binder added. If sufficient extra binder is used, it would be better but then how is that much different from the basecoat. Only the filler in basecoat is replaced with little cement as the pop emulsion used to mix it also has basecoat filler.
Cement needs proper hydration and certain thickness and with cement, pop emulsion and whateverbond, it would be applied light and I suspect dry fast without sufficient time to hydrate.
Besides, I've stated it here severally that cement forms a chemical reaction with sand (silica) by gelling them. Both on the block surface and the plaster mix and they don't form any reaction with calcium carbonate in pop emulsion used to mix them. They just act as a further inert filler with the calcium carbonate in such capacity.
It may hydrate itself and harden somewhat but there is little interaction with the pop emulsion used to mix it. The only thing holding it to the wall is the pva bond added and the amount used would determine the strength.
I posted a building that was screeded close to six years before the owner decided to paint it as it was white and looked painted and was used as a reference point in the area ( white house).
Perhaps p.o.p experts and screeders can shed more light to say if they have ever encountered basecoat cracking. It's what oyinbo people use in screeding!

Please does this proposed process make economic and aesthetic sense with the increase in cost of paint...
Prime the screeded wall with two coats of emulsion with intermittent sandpapering and then apply one coat of satin.
I ask to know if dodging two coats of satin makes any sense.

gbadexy:
Screeding is done to give a smooth and soft layer on a plaster surface and it can be further sandpapered to give a smooth finish that regular cement plaster can't give.
If you don't screed, nothing would happen as long as you aren't using paint with sheen but if you use correct matte with low sheen or silk and you don't screed or at least prime it to smoothen the surface, the reflection of light on the wall surface would highlight the roughness and other faults on the surface.

Hatesin:


She didn't complain about space, hence, the presumption that she has enough space.

Besides, one must not own a football field before one can mould blocks. I traveled home this weekend to see my parents only to meet the compound partly covered with blocks. What was happening? Our boundary neighbor was building and he begged to extend the moulding to our own compound which my parents obliged him

You need space for block production. 2,000 block no be small quantity when you start.

Hatesin:


Madam mould your blocks manually except you have the money to throw away.

Talking about speed, you can get two moulders and in 3/4 days your blocks are ready.

Tanks sir

n3xt:


You need space for block production. 2,000 block no be small quantity when you start.

Thank u sirs for d advices
My plot is 1and half my neighbour has 2plots
D space is not d problem... i appreciate u all for dis. God bless us all. Dat is my plot... I but blocks over 600 of 9 inches for d fencing and foundation of d security house.. if d price is still 200 i can still afford it but d 250.. 300 is just outrageous to me..

n3xt:


Find out where you can rent an electric machine and pallets around you. No matter how expensive the person is, he can’t charge you more than 1,200 per bag of cement.
Rent one and get boys to produce your block for you. If you’re too generous, you’ll pay 1,500 per bag of cement to the operator and labourers. The standard rate here in Lagos is 1,000 per bag.

The man is just trying to sell block to you and not assisting you in anyway.

Take note, if he’s going the block in his shop, he’ll still have to pay laborers to wet the blocks, stack it and transport it to various destinations.

Producing at your site should be way cheaper. Maybe around 400k for the 2,000 blocks.
_____________

If you’re doing hand mould, get a moulder that comes highly recommended. If they can achieve 10 bags a day, that’s a good one.
_____________

Remember it’s raining season though. Someone looking to make quick money won’t tell you this is not a good time for experimentation.

Give yourself a little more time for the raining season to be over. Buy all your materials now. Cement is cheaper now. Wait till after the rains to mould your blocks.

If you’re sure of a fair weather though, just go ahead with your moulding.

Wishing you all the best.

Tanks sir.... d weather has been my concern tooo. Am looking to start during d hamattan session November likely to December.. kindly advice me concerning d cement sir.

cuddling44:




Tanks sir.... d weather has been my concern tooo. Am looking to start during d hamattan session November likely to December.. kindly advice me concerning d cement sir.

If there’s a cement depot near you and the fund is available, pay for cement now. Cement prices will likely shoot up in the coming weeks.

ceelog:
Please does this proposed process make economic and aesthetic sense with the increase in cost of paint...
Prime the screeded wall with two coats of emulsion with intermittent sandpapering and then apply one coat of satin.
I ask to know if dodging two coats of satin makes any sense.

That would give you a matte finish. The first coat would be absorbed by the underneath coat and it's the second coat that would give the necessary film thickness that would have sheen and be tough enough to be cleaned multiple times.

n3xt:


If there’s a cement depot near you and the fund is available, pay for cement now. Cement prices will likely shoot up in the coming weeks.

Ati bere o.