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Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by Nobody: 9:02pm On Sep 21, 2021
Newton85:
Leopold Sedar Senghor once said "emotional is African, reason is Greek." Eboes are the "African" he was referring to. They are so impervious to reason and rational thinking, irrational chestbeating is their watchword. And that's why they always and will always lose.
Indeed. It is obvious why it is Igbos, of all Southerners, talking up Atiku's chances here and worshipping him.

The traitors and turncoats know what they are about to do come 2023. Next the confused hacks will be killing themselves in the SE saying "all Fulanis must leave Igbo land".

Come 2023 same peoole will be queueing in the hot sun at polling booths everywhere to 'Atikulate'.
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by blaque7: 9:02pm On Sep 21, 2021
Shameless youth them..Atiku go rule una papa finish come dey rule una.
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by emmykk(m): 9:03pm On Sep 21, 2021
FreeStuffsNG:
I don't think you understand my analysis sir. I don't do tribal bashing , it's unproductive and against my value system.
Please let's wait until then, more remarks like this dominated then too until results came and it shocked everyone. As we type here, Turakin doesn't have the kind of acceptance in Lagos as Asiwaju Tinubu enjoys in Kano. Remember again, Alhaji Tofa is from Kano.
Kano cannot vote Tinubu over Atiku
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by Nobody: 9:04pm On Sep 21, 2021
nzeobi:
Who is telling you that tinubu popular in the Kano or is it because ganduje who survived his election by a miracle is following him around
Bros, go and "Atikulate" in 2023. No need for the story. Yorubas are not expecting your 5% support anyway.
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by seunmsg(m): 9:05pm On Sep 21, 2021
Freeman911:
So the SE should forgive and forget about 2015, Because they see Jonathan as a Southeasterner
Before 2015, there was 2011.
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by Newton85: 9:06pm On Sep 21, 2021
OneTemplate:
Indeed. It is obvious why it is Igbos, of all Southerners, talking up Atiku's chances here and worshipping him.

The traitors and turncoats know what they are about to do come 2023. Next the confused hacks will be killing themselves in the SE saying "all Fulanis must leave Igbo land".

Come 2023 same peoole will be queueing in the hot sun at polling booths everywhere to 'Atikulate'.
In fairness, I don't expect Eboes to support any Yoruba candidate or interest. I mean, they voted for Fulani Bashir Tofa over Abiola! Their hypocrisy of calling Yorubas "Fulani slaves" while they're the real Fulani slaves is just what makes me angry at them.
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by Nobody: 9:09pm On Sep 21, 2021
Newton85:
In fairness, I don't expect Eboes to support any Yoruba candidate or interest. I mean, they voted for Fulani Bashir Tofa over Abiola! Their hypocrisy of calling Yorubas "Fulani slaves" while they're the real Fulani slaves is just what makes me angry at them.
No surprise because Igbos are a people who never say what they mean and never mean what they say. The very embodiment of two-faced duplicity and hypocrisy.

You will see them "Atikulating" or "Tambuwaling" wildly and happily in 2023. It is their nature.
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by ORIENTATION101: 9:10pm On Sep 21, 2021
nzeobi:
Most of you tinubu loyalists just talk to feel good sometimes, do you know that most political appointments made from 1999-2007 were made by atiku,
Do you know that all pdp governors in the south west in 2003 elections came through atiku.
Do you know that PDP had a written election result that would give PDP victory in Lagos in 2003 but atiku withheld it because of his friendship with tinubu.

Not everybody likes showmanship like tinubu
which governor in south west came through Atiku? Is it gbenga Daniel,ladoja,fayose, or agagu, tell us the Name?
Of course obj tried to Rig lagos but failed woefully that's why he witheld tinubu allocation.
Atiku is not loyal to anybody and nobody is loyal to him in politics except those asslicking for his dollars.
Atiku cant even influence his state governor not to talk of whole north east region
Atiku anywhere belle face politician , has no political structure apart from dollars.
Because he use pdp to shine in 2019 you guys started rating himcheesy
Atiku only thrive where there is nobody to match his dollars sharingcheesy
He camed third behind kwankaso and buhari in Apc primarycheesy
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by Manshot1: 9:13pm On Sep 21, 2021
seunmsg:
Instead of wasting your time trying to frustrate the south west, why not use your time and energy to work for an Igbo presidential candidate? Is that not a more sensible approach?

See, Tinubu will contest whether you guys like him or not. If he is edge out by another northerner with the help of Igbo folks, the Yorubas will claim they got betrayed by the north after supporting them in 2015 and 2019. Another round of political unrest like we witnessed from 1993 till 1998 will ensue. At the end of the day, the North will be forced to make another concession to the south west in order to keep the country and south east will lose out again.

So you see, you are not playing this game with your head. The south east will gain absolutely nothing from the anti-Yoruba politics folks like you are pushing for. It will end in tears and we will be here to laugh at you as always.
Lol..Funny. you mean if and when Tinubu is schemed out ,there will be political unrest and riots like it happened in 1993?.Because Tinubu is who?MKO Abiola or what? Because Tinubu won in a free and fair election or what? I mean Tinubu who could not even save his Man from being removed as Party chairman.

Tinubu who's party the APC is now in the hands of the CPC arm of the APC..

You these people sha dey overhyped each other sha.

Tueh
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by santakris(m):
ORIENTATION101:
Atiku don't influence anywhere, just bunch of asslickers of his dollars.
He doesnt have any political structure even in his own state. He lost his own polling unit to Buhari, that says alot about his meagre popularity.

Atiku is just a moneybag, no influence anywhere.
Tinubu has more political structure in north than Atiku.
Tinubu is the most influential politican Alive in Nigeria both North and south
I love the way you buttress your argument with facts. It's so so logical.
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by izubext007: 9:16pm On Sep 21, 2021
Non is good.
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by nzeobi(m): 9:18pm On Sep 21, 2021
ORIENTATION101:
which governor in south west came through Atiku? Is it gbenga Daniel,ladoja,fayose, or agagu, tell us the Name?
Of course obj tried to Rig lagos but failed woefully that's why he witheld tinubu allocation.
Atiku is not loyal to anybody and nobody is loyal to him in politics except those asslicking for his dollars.
Atiku cant even influence his state governor not to talk of whole north east region
Atiku anywhere belle face politician , has no political structure apart from dollars.
Because he use pdp to shine in 2019 you guys started rating himcheesy
Atiku only thrive where there is nobody to match his dollars sharingcheesy
He camed third behind kwankaso and buhari in Apc primarycheesy
Well you can argue to suit your self, in 2003 atiku was mandated to deliver all the SW states for PDP, he only left tinubu an old friend in anticipation that tinubu will be useful to him in 2007.if not the results of Lagos elections would have been declared from abuja.

And please stop saying obj withheld Lagos allocation cos it was only LG allocation that was withheld and it was because tinubu did something not know then by creating local governments on his own.

Shebi we saw how PDP performed in presidential election in Lagos where osibanjo lost his booth and same fate awaited tinubu till he started using bullion van
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by kcnwaigbo: 9:28pm On Sep 21, 2021
stawarts:
Point of correction, if perhaps north continue ruling is not because of the south west greediness but because of southeast hatred and bitterness for the other southern region.
So only the SW region is good for the presidency in the south? Did Obasanjo not spend 8 years in aso rock? What again is the SW looking for
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by VTJN(m): 9:30pm On Sep 21, 2021
spirul77:
hey boy, are you so jobless? You have quoted 95 percent of the monikers here, what's the problem?
The Guy is senseless sir

The vile and hatred he had for the Yorubas is beyond comprehension
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by Hallabee1(m): 9:31pm On Sep 21, 2021
Aje.......




so who this people help, so make i fry my balls abi
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by VTJN(m): 9:45pm On Sep 21, 2021
redcliff:
in the south west. You think the east would pick a Tinubu over Atiku? the north would choose their own, the east would not choose a Tinubu.
Stop mentioning the east east east guy

You guys don't exist. Your 5% votes doesn't count, that you should know
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by Echoban: 9:55pm On Sep 21, 2021
Tomek09:
Okorocha is running in APC. Remember he came 4th in APC Presidential Primaries in 2015. He will pull weight in the North than Tinubu. U guys are just rating Tinubu high because of his influence and demigod status in Yoruba Politics. National Politics involves 6 regions with 3 major tribes + many minority ethnic groups.
Okorocha, if okorocha emerge u LL u vote okorocha? With the way he is been maltreated by u guys, today he is Fulani slave, tomorrow he destroyed imo, next is he is a thief..
Igbos has Political issues.


I LL pretend not to see the rest.
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by VTJN(m): 10:03pm On Sep 21, 2021
Tomek09:
I should be asking you.
Una ewedu eyes go clear in 2023. Power is returning to the North with an Igbo V.P. Nothing for afonjas in 2023 grin grin grin
grin grin grin ;Una no want Biafra again kwan?

I wonder who do una like this.
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by ogascomax: 10:05pm On Sep 21, 2021
Tinubu is influential like in Edo State election. I am from SOUTH SOUTH, Tinubu is not anything in the South South. Don't even think of South East self.
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by ORIENTATION101: 10:06pm On Sep 21, 2021
nzeobi:
Well you can argue to suit your self, in 2003 atiku was mandated to deliver all the SW states for PDP, he only left tinubu an old friend in anticipation that tinubu will be useful to him in 2007.if not the results of Lagos elections would have been declared from abuja.

And please stop saying obj withheld Lagos allocation cos it was only LG allocation that was withheld and it was because tinubu did something not know then by creating local governments on his own.

Shebi we saw how PDP performed in presidential election in Lagos where osibanjo lost his booth and same fate awaited tinubu till he started using bullion van
usual goal shifting rhetorics from they came true atiku blalabla to atiku was mandated yen yen .was obj and atiku in good terms before 2003 election? Same Atiku that swore to work against re-election obj was mandated to deliver Sw regioncheesy
Did atiku even deliver his own region in 2003?
Obj lost north east and north west to buhari .the results re there.if not for south and North central that came through for obj buhari would have won 2003 election
Atiku is a political prostitute ,anywhere belle face politican, His dollars flopped in PDP primary 2011 when obj was still in charge. His dollars couldnt give him second position in apc primary 2015.
I blame wike and secondus for letting Atiku bought pdp ticket
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by ORIENTATION101: 10:09pm On Sep 21, 2021
kcnwaigbo:
So only the SW region is good for the presidency in the south? Did Obasanjo not spend 8 years in aso rock? What again is the SW looking for
did anybody ask Igbo politicans not to contest 2023. Lazy cowards in south east want to reap where they didnt sowcheesy
Start campaigning for your own south east candidate in the your favorite party PDP.
APC ticket is between SS/SW
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by Bendeco02: 10:14pm On Sep 21, 2021
Reading the comments here, it shows that Yorubas (Tinubu supporters) like living in denial to feel good...

How will someone that claims to be enlightened politically say that Tinubu is more influential or known in National politics than Atiku?... Atiku that nearly won buhari in 2019 election if not for normal incumbent rigging system in Nigeria.

Maybe u guys thought that Nigeria starts and end in Lagos... With the way you guys comment here it confirms that Yorubas don't travel.
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by emperor863(m): 10:18pm On Sep 21, 2021
kcnwaigbo:
Oga this is 2021 and not 1993.Besides Tinubu is not even remotely popular in the east the way Abiola was very popular
Tinubu needs to secure 25% votes in two of the five south east states. He will get this in Imo and anambra state. The other south east states can go fucc themselves. Inconsequential 5%ers.

Right from 1959, no Yoruba man has won a Federal election in the East, the north has always won. Tinubu does jot expect this to change. He made adequate preparations for this.
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by Okwyjesus(m): 10:18pm On Sep 21, 2021
[quote author=Unik3030 post=106041826]i know nothing about politics
Am taking this from you. You can go to sleep.
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by NobleRace: 10:22pm On Sep 21, 2021
Asgard73:
For get this 93’ noise ..
we all know the polical dynamics of 93’ and the players ..
No where .. was Tofa winning the election.. with Abiola friends in power..
Friends that still don’t trust him .. but use and still fvck him
Are you then saying that the friends rigged election for him and still denied him of his post?
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by Bendeco02: 10:23pm On Sep 21, 2021
emperor863:
Tinubu needs to secure 25% votes in two of the five south east states. He will get this in Imo and anambra state. The other south east states can go fucc themselves. Inconsequential 5%ers.

Right from 1959, no Yoruba man has won a Federal election in the East, the north has always won. Tinubu does jot expect this to change. He made adequate preparations for this.
Then who do u think will have the major votes up north if both Tinubu and Atiku should contest.

Maybe u guys thought that tinubu equals to buhari up north.

If you guys are wise you should have known that northern leaders will be neutral.. They won't deliver for tinubu as they did for Buhari so don't expect any rigging in favour of Tinubu if he should contest... You can see the handwriting on the wall as some of them are kicking against Southern presidency.
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by nzeobi(m): 10:30pm On Sep 21, 2021
ORIENTATION101:
usual goal shifting rhetorics from they came true atiku blalabla to atiku was mandated yen yen .was obj and atiku in good terms before 2003 election? Same Atiku that swore to work against re-election obj was mandated to deliver Sw regioncheesy
Did atiku even deliver his own region in 2003?
Obj lost north east and north west to buhari .the results re there.if not for south and North central that came through for obj buhari would have won 2003 election
Atiku is a political prostitute ,anywhere belle face politican, His dollars flopped in PDP primary 2011 when obj was still in charge. His dollars couldnt give him second position in apc primary 2015.
I blame wike and secondus for letting Atiku bought pdp ticket
So who is now shifting the goal post between us.
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by OmoEpe(m): 10:44pm On Sep 21, 2021
seunmsg:
All the handles arguing in favor of Atiku on this thread are all from the south east. They will later move to another thread to call Yorubas betrayals and Fulani slaves. Never seen a people that defines confusion so effortlessly. They've got their priorities so mixed up that they don't even know where to stand. Smh!
Their confused state is akin to the confusion God brought on men at the tower of Babel

Their stupidity is Legendary
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by Trentee4eva: 10:45pm On Sep 21, 2021
ogascomax:
Tinubu is influential like in Edo State election. I am from SOUTH SOUTH, Tinubu is not anything in the South South.
Don't even think of South East self.
Lol, don't mind these people. Tinubu no be anything for South-South. Stop overhyping Tinubu. He should secure the APC Presidential ticket first before you compare him with Atiku.
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by OmoEpe(m): 10:46pm On Sep 21, 2021
kcnwaigbo:
Oga this is 2021 and not 1993.Besides Tinubu is not even remotely popular in the east the way Abiola was very popular
The East is irrelevant in determining National elections results.


THEY ARE AS INSIGNIFICANT AS A DOT

Unugwo!!!
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by Echoban: 10:51pm On Sep 21, 2021
Bendeco02:
Reading the comments here, it shows that Yorubas (Tinubu supporters) like living in denial to feel good...

How will someone that claims to be enlightened politically say that Tinubu is more influential or known in National politics than Atiku?... Atiku that nearly won buhari in 2019 election if not for normal incumbent rigging system in Nigeria.

Maybe u guys thought that Nigeria starts and end in Lagos... With the way you guys comment here it confirms that Yorubas don't travel.
If u're coming from this angle then u seems not to understand the question.

Atiku is contesting under one of the 2 most formidable party PDP, wen PMB 1st tenure was a colocosa failure.. anybody in PDP even if it's Adeshina, Donald Duke also would have dragged it same way.

We are talking of influence.

You should reason it in terms of

Political Base across the country
Loyalist across the country
Financial strength
Products across the country
Grassroots support.


If not for hatred of SE against BAT, Igbo won't even be thinking of ATiku so forget it. On what bases? How did he help them?? BAT has Politically formed trainees across SW and North infact Niger state gave him JAGABAN till date.
Where is Atiku base, which Governor got his back? Compare to BAT (just like Gov.Aketi just did?
Atiku is a lone politician only riding on the back of a ready made structured party.

So don't even confuse opportunity of party candidacy that he even he even bought with enough dollar to hands Wike Tambuwal down.

Oh u think BAT Will need to buy heavily buy primary with ticket before delegates under Zulum,shetima of Bornu , Ganduje of kano will support him??

Or why did u think Wike called PDP tax collector? Na d painment .

Next time read and digest with reality.
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by VTJN(m):
Bendeco02:
Reading the comments here, it shows that Yorubas (Tinubu supporters) like living in denial to feel good...

How will someone that claims to be enlightened politically say that Tinubu is more influential or known in National politics than Atiku?... Atiku that nearly won buhari in 2019 election if not for normal incumbent rigging system in Nigeria.

Maybe u guys thought that Nigeria starts and end in Lagos... With the way you guys comment here it confirms that Yorubas don't travel.
You must be dreaming. Which Atiku almost won Buhari in 2019 election?

Atiku that lost his polling unit to buhari

His kinsmen voted against him
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