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Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by ORIENTATION101: 7:14pm On Sep 21, 2021
Willie2015:


Atiku had 41.22 % of votes in the last election...
Dat figure is massive... over 11m votes...
And havin the result against...
The Almighty PMB plus Tinubu structure is really really impressive...
Dats an heavyweight....Bros










Atiku got that numbers because of the party structure he got from PDP. He lost his pooling booth to pmb.
Yardua, Gej re not heavyweight in politics yet they defeat pmb in 2007 and 2011 respectively because they inheritted a solid Party structure in PDP. Put Atiku in apga in 2023 he can't get up to 3 millions votes infact his party will come third behind APC,and Pdp

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Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by ORIENTATION101: 7:16pm On Sep 21, 2021
backbone503:


He is a wise man. He plays a different type of politics - politically empowers his allies, planting them in key positions
which Allies does atiku have or planted in power?
Mention 5? I will mention 50 Tinubu have planted in power since 1999

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Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by redcliff: 7:17pm On Sep 21, 2021
Echoban:


U know what eh, u ipob lack Political reality and it's dampening u guys politically, shey h guys shouted in 2019 how Atiku will share Northern vote, SS/SE will give Bloc vote, then boom Atiku will win

But what Happened in reality after the election??


Lol. you need to be extremely hated and baaaad to do a 2015 like win in 2019. in all sincerity, we know that 2019 election was highly rigged and even Atiku should have won that election but lets leave that talk for beer parlor. Shebi 2023 dey come, Atiku would contest, Tinubu would also contest, lets see how it would go. remember you need 2 major zones to win an election in nigeria and i can tell you that Tinubu does not have full support of the north and has no support in the SE or SS

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Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by Rhozabeth(m): 7:19pm On Sep 21, 2021
Asgard73:
Tinubu is a regional Yoruba god.

Atiku is a nationalist
Bros na lie! They are both thieves!!!
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by Tomek09(m): 7:19pm On Sep 21, 2021
Echoban:


U know what eh, u ipob lack Political reality and it's dampening u guys politically, shey h guys shouted in 2019 how Atiku will share Northern vote, SS/SE will give Bloc vote, then boom Atiku will win

But what Happened in reality after the election??

Buhari pass Atiku for North. No politician can defeat Buhari for North.

Now that Buhari won't be on the ballot, it will be a different ball game.

North will prefer North/SE ticket than SW/North ticket.

Igbos won't support Tinubu if an Igbo son is running for V.P but for equity and fairness, Power should go to SouthEast because OBJ had taken the turn of SouthWest and GEJ that of SouthSouth.
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by Halo22: 7:19pm On Sep 21, 2021
Comparing Tinubu with Atiku is like comparing Mikel Obi with C.Ronaldo, the difference is very clear. Even in 2019, it was crystal clear that Atiku won Buhari even in Kano state.

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Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by Ogbeniomo: 7:21pm On Sep 21, 2021
ORIENTATION101:
Atiku don't influence anywhere, just bunch of asslickers of his dollars.
He doesnt have any political structure even in his own state. He lost his own polling unit to Buhari, that says alot about his meagre popularity.

Atiku is just a moneybag, no influence anywhere.
Tinubu has more political structure in north than Atiku.
Tinubu is the most influential politican Alive in Nigeria both North and south
l am not Asiwaju fan, and not intends to be, but U re saying the obvious truth..

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Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by backbone503(m): 7:22pm On Sep 21, 2021
ORIENTATION101:
which Allies does atiku have or planted in power?
Mention 5? I will mention 50 Tinubu have planted in power since 1999

We are on the same page. 'was referring to Tinubu and not Atiku. However, you can go ahead and name them
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by Echoban: 7:22pm On Sep 21, 2021
Willie2015:


Atiku had 41.22 % of votes in the last election...
Dat figure is massive... over 11m votes...
And havin the result against...
The Almighty PMB plus Tinubu structure is really really impressive...
Dats an heavyweight....Bros











2019 , PMB already showed his failure and many already gave up on him.. Even Tinubu self no too put enough body because of the bad market of PMB, not sellable...

We are talking of Tinubu himself and Atiku.
I personally voted YPP despite the fact that I'm pro Tinubu , El Rufai APC fan, Y because PMB failed.
So don't be surprised at the turnout, despite the failure PMB still won,

Currently APC has spread wild , penetrated Bayelsa, Edo(courtesy of Obaseki failure), Imo, Ebinyi, Cross river. APC only need 30% there. These are Governor's who can Il influence the election not senator . Don't underestimate Governor's guy. Umahi, Cross river, Hope and co will be gunning for Ministerial position, so they already have a bargaining power to deliver Their state either by crook or anyhow.(30% is enough).

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Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by Tomek09(m): 7:23pm On Sep 21, 2021
ObalaEmma:
Okorocha still needs South East support which I don't think he can get. South East still needs just one leader for 4 years at the presidential level before they can desire for more. This is what 2023 VP will solve.
Yes but I prefer SE or North Presidency than SouthWest because OBJ had taken their turn 1999—2007.

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Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by Nobody: 7:23pm On Sep 21, 2021
Atiku na, nawa for you guys oh, what sort of insult is this na, Tinubu only influence is in the south west, lagos specifically, outside lagos his a no body, that was why buhari was able to dispose him off asap. Atiku is supported by the east, south and north. Tinubu is a political failure.

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Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by Tomek09(m): 7:25pm On Sep 21, 2021
Echoban:


2019 , PMB already showed his failure and many already gave up on him.. Even Tinubu self no too put enough body because of the bad market of PMB, not sellable...

We are talking of Tinubu himself and Atiku.
I personally voted YPP despite the fact that I'm pro Tinubu , El Rufai APC fan, Y because PMB failed.
So don't be surprised at the turnout, despite the failure PMB still won,

Currently APC has spread wild , penetrated Bayelsa, Edo(courtesy of Obaseki failure), Imo, Ebinyi, Cross river. APC only need 30% there. These are Governor's who can Il influence the election not senator . Don't underestimate Governor's guy. Umahi, Cross river, Hope and co will be gunning for Ministerial position, so they already have a bargaining power to deliver Their state either by crook or anyhow.(30% is enough).

What sort of useless analysis is this??
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by Kenedy101: 7:25pm On Sep 21, 2021
nairavsdollars:
Atiku Abubakar: Former Vice-President, PDP Presidential candidate in the 2019 elections

Asiwaju Bola Tinubu: Former Lagos state governor and APC national leader.

Who is more influential among the two and can win the presidential election if the contest comes down to both?

Jagaban of Africa

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Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by Echoban: 7:28pm On Sep 21, 2021
Tomek09:

Buhari pass Atiku for North. No politician can defeat Buhari for North.

Now that Buhari won't be on the ballot, it will be a different ball game.

North will prefer North/SE ticket than SW/North ticket.

Igbos won't support Tinubu if an Igbo son is running for V.P but for equity and fairness, Power should go to SouthEast because OBJ had taken the turn of SouthWest and GEJ that of SouthSouth.

U guys are funny, ok who exactly is SE projecting in APC?? None. Una just dey ask for impossible. Ok sheybi una go like Orji Kalu, Umahi that is not nationally yet carried, or Joe Igbokwe??

SW has Tinubu, Osinbanjo, Fashola, u project person.

In PDP, why are u guys not pushing PDP ur beloved, do that and we will take u serious, SW self fit reason Peter Obi Presidency, but mba..

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Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by GetMeRight: 7:29pm On Sep 21, 2021
Tinubu by far!!! Tinubu has groomed a lot of people while Atiku is just a money bag that people are only interested in his money. Simple

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Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by Drema: 7:29pm On Sep 21, 2021
Comparing Atiku with Tinubu is like comparing Oga and Boy Boy.

One is a National Player and the other is a regional player

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Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by Tomek09(m): 7:29pm On Sep 21, 2021
redcliff:


Lol. you need to be extremely hated and baaaad to do a 2015 like win in 2019. in all sincerity, we know that 2019 election was highly rigged and even Atiku should have won that election but lets leave that talk for beer parlor. Shebi 2023 dey come, Atiku would contest, Tinubu would also contest, lets see how it would go. remember you need 2 major zones to win an election in nigeria and i can tell you that Tinubu does not have full support of the north and has no support in the SE or SS
U need at least 3 regions with massive Bloc votes to win Presidential race.
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by matrixme(m): 7:32pm On Sep 21, 2021
I honestly believe that Tinubu is more influential by all factors. You can't over estimate the power Yoruba people have in Nigerian politics. Look at Fani-Kayode, despite the rotten statements he made about Buhari and APC, he is still very valuable.
Atiku went to Dubai for many months after loosing the election, no one thought it wise to visit him. Tinubu is currently in London, but it's a thing to go snap picture with him. Let that sink in.

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Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by dapolaw(m): 7:33pm On Sep 21, 2021
Abeg drop this your SS/SE thing, can't you people stand alone? Must you tag the SS in your poorly played politics? That was how you people were tagging SS as part of Biafra under MNK.


kcnwaigbo:

Did anyone say Tinubu should not contest? We are only telling you that he won't win.The SW is taking the SS/SE for fools,we will surprise you people in 2023
Lol the North will be "forced" to make concessions to the SW.
You are supposed to be a comedian

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Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by Tomek09(m): 7:34pm On Sep 21, 2021
Echoban:


U guys are funny, ok who exactly is SE projecting in APC?? None. Una just dey ask for impossible. Ok sheybi una go like Orji Kalu, Umahi that is not nationally yet carried, or Joe Igbokwe??

SW has Tinubu, Osinbanjo, Fashola, u project person.

In PDP, why are u guys not pushing PDP ur beloved, do that and we will take u serious, SW self fit reason Peter Obi Presidency, but mba..
Okorocha is running in APC. Remember he came 4th in APC Presidential Primaries in 2015. He will pull weight in the North than Tinubu. U guys are just rating Tinubu high because of his influence and demigod status in Yoruba Politics. National Politics involves 6 regions with 3 major tribes + many minority ethnic groups.
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by GetMeRight: 7:35pm On Sep 21, 2021
hisexcellency34:
If the contest is between Tinubu and Atiku, [s] I can place my bet on Atiku because the North has the voting strength and they will support their son
[/s]

Support their son my ass. You're not a politician, that's what people who don't know anything about politics usually say. Lol.
If northerners who are APC members and stakeholders support Atiku on PDP platform, will they also decamp to PDP after Atiku might have won. Be it north, West or East, your loyalty to the party comes first, not your loyalty to the tribe.
Yoruba PDP members will never vote for Tinubu, likewise Hausa APC members will never vote for Atiku
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by dapolaw(m): 7:36pm On Sep 21, 2021
Please just mention one politician whether living or dead, whether past or present that Atiku has mentored and his still loyal to him?

When you are done with that, then we can talk whether he is influential or not

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Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by Amatarasha(f): 7:37pm On Sep 21, 2021
seunmsg:


In as much as your comments are childish, the understanding will also be childish. I can't help you in that regard.
u talk like a child , see how small Ur reasoning are!
Truly cunningliness isn't wisdom , smh angry
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by yommen: 7:37pm On Sep 21, 2021
hisexcellency34:
If the contest is between Tinubu and Atiku, I can place my bet on Atiku because the North has the voting strength and they will support their son

The reason why it seems the North has the voting strength is because the southern people don't vote. Period!

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Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by Tomek09(m): 7:37pm On Sep 21, 2021
matrixme:
I honestly believe that Tinubu is more influential by all factors. You can't over estimate the power Yoruba people have in Nigerian politics. Look at Fani-Kayode, despite the rotten statements he made about Buhari and APC, he is still very valuable.
Atiku went to Dubai for many months after loosing the election, no one thought it wise to visit him. Tinubu is currently in London, but it's a thing to go snap picture with him. Let that sink in.
Hospital and visitations are meant for the sick. Atiku is hale and hearty in Dubai while afonja Tinubu is sick and lean.
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by VTJN(m): 7:38pm On Sep 21, 2021
Asgard73:
Tinubu is a regional Yoruba god.

Atiku is a nationalist
You funny o... Atiku that lost his polling unit to Buhari in 2019 election
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by Tomek09(m): 7:38pm On Sep 21, 2021
[s]
dapolaw:
Please just mention one politician whether living or dead, whether past or present that Atiku has mentored and his still loyal to him?

When you are done with that, then we can talk whether he is influential or not
[/s]
Mumu talk.
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by jaxxy(m): 7:38pm On Sep 21, 2021
ORIENTATION101:
They re talking about influential not geographical voting strength olodo.

Tinubu has more political patronage in north than Atiku. I can list alot of Tinubu long term allies in north even in Atiku state


U are clearly joking. Tinubu doesn’t even have the whole whole south. Barely half.
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by Amatarasha(f): 7:39pm On Sep 21, 2021
kcnwaigbo:

Is it Tinubu that has completely lost control of APC since Buni took over that is influential? How come Tinubu was not able to save Oshiomhole and stop Malami from taking over the party from him.

The way I see it will take a miracle for Tinubu to even pick up the APC ticket under the current APC structure let alone contesting in the main elections
wisdom is truely a 9th wonder in ofe mmanu land
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by Tomek09(m): 7:39pm On Sep 21, 2021
VTJN:
You funny o... Atiku that lost his polling unit to Buhari in 2019 election

Let's see SW result in 2019 so we can rate Atiku's performance in ur region.
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by dapolaw(m): 7:40pm On Sep 21, 2021
Oya you too talk your own mumu talk, it's when you don't have a point that you will resort to insults



Tomek09:
[s][/s]
Mumu talk.
Re: Atiku Vs Tinubu: Who Is More Influential In Nigeria’s Political Terrain? by Nobody: 7:40pm On Sep 21, 2021
Oshinbajo we want.

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