Kaduna1stson:


Nothing will happen. We have the AGF and CJN.

The south is just barking.

Just imagine the rubbish!

post=106115360:
As long as each states utilize the VAT for the development and progress on their people.
As long as it won't end in the foreign accounts of politicians in the states.

We've talked about ranching many times here.
This is how things are done in saner climes.
Miyetti Allah need to give the good ones among their members all the re-orientation that things can be done the way it is done in civilized nations.

The ONLY constant thing in life is CHANGE.

The bill was not meant to attack anybody, but that it was all-embracing.
Land resources were very important to the state, adding that the relationship between cattle herders and farmers should be symbiotic.

A better Nigeria all around is all we want.
God bless Adamawa State.
God bless Nigeria.


Our stand @[/color] on everything related to this [color=#990000]VAT issue below.....

So this man is from Adamawa? Are u from Jimeta orrrr?

well i.m not in politics bt the way i see things, d FG can.t withstand d presure that will brew from the likes of LAGOS, RIVERS & some OIL producing states if they push futher on this VAT issue.
I dnt even knw y african leaders( nigerian) are not tired of stealing &power grabbing.
come to d north u.ll see under development every where bt & yet billions of naira are bieng push into that region!!!
so if u may ask, what are these so called leaders of d north doing with these monies

Kaduna1stson:


Nothing will happen. We have the AGF and CJN.

The south is just barking.

The same barking south has been feeding you and your kind since 1960

allthingsgood:


It appears u don't know anything about vat. That's definitely not how it works.

First of all, the FGN contributes about 65% of the entire vat so all the other states put together is about 35%.

Moreover, the distribution of vat is not to take from one state to give another. Vat is collected collectively and shared to all the states. So even your so called rivers state also benefits from other states too.

Further vat is a consumption tax, not production. So even if u produce in rivers state and sell in nassarawa, nassarawa will also be paying vat per product.

As it is, FGN. Is able to collect the VAT from the source once and for all. But if u leave VAT to the states, it means that many businesses will die because each state will continue collecting VAT from the same company. It means that that your Julius berger will pay the same 7.5 over and over again in each state it has presence. Julius berger can cope, but what of small startups

In USA that we copied our laws from states collect VAT not IRS

that how federation works

Northerners can twist any thing to suit their perverted ends

allthingsgood:


It appears u don't know anything about vat. That's definitely not how it works.

First of all, the FGN contributes about 65% of the entire vat so all the other states put together is about 35%.

Moreover, the distribution of vat is not to take from one state to give another. Vat is collected collectively and shared to all the states. So even your so called rivers state also benefits from other states too.

Further vat is a consumption tax, not production. So even if u produce in rivers state and sell in nassarawa, nassarawa will also be paying vat per product.

As it is, FGN. Is able to collect the VAT from the source once and for all. But if u leave VAT to the states, it means that many businesses will die because each state will continue collecting VAT from the same company. It means that that your Julius berger will pay the same 7.5 over and over again in each state it has presence. Julius berger can cope, but what of small startups

How does rivers state benefits from others? Did you label the money collected from other states?

Rivers and Lagos generate more than what they got so how is that beneficial?

Zoharariel:
Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable ~ John F. Kennedy.

When the only language an adversary understands is violence, then it must be spoken louder when communicating with the bastards.

These quota-system almajiris have held down the South from progressing for ages and the Southerners that are being used as willing tools continue to bury their cursed heads in the sands - just for their selfish interests.

I keep wondering why the South is agitating for the Presidency, which inevitably will still be sabotaged by these uncircumcised northern bastards like they did to Ebele Jonathan.

The South should be clamoring for Resource Control.

Without the Crude Oil of the Niger Delta, Nigeria is dead.

Without the IGR of Lagos and Rivers States, Nigeria is dead.

Abubakar Malami is a cursed, intellectually derelict, quota-system lawyer whose brainpower cannot even kindle a torchlight bulb.

How an illiterate buffoon like this became the AGF in the land that have Kings and Chiefs is a mystery that is still being debated.

This is the reason I curse Tinubu and all his supporters day & night for selling us cheaply to these uncircumcised Fulani bastards who think the Earth revolves only around them.

There are powerful Military Generals from the South like Obasanjo who would rather showcase their tomfoolery by dancing skelewu in the media like a Peruvian Monkey instead of using their influence to curtail the excesses of these uncircumcised bastards.

When we neither punish nor reproach evildoers, we are ripping the foundations of justice from beneath new generations.

If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor.

Every time we witness an injustice and do not act, we train our character to be passive in its presence, and thereby eventually lose the ability to defend ourselves and those we love.

With this level of injustice, If the North is in the shoes of the South, nobody needs a soothsayer or herbalist to know that Nigeria would have long ceased to exist.

OBJ the hypocrite and one of our major problem since 1999

The North cannot depend on d south forever. U guys better grow up because, d only thing that is constant is change

Kaduna1stson:


Nothing will happen. We have the AGF and CJN.

The south is just barking.

To continue stealing people's money and resources?

Now the real truth is coming out.

We all know that hunger will kill you all if the money stopped coming, yet you want to fulanize Nigeria.

PrinceMajestic:
Northerners the lousy thieves, you want to steal lands and continue stealing VAT of resourceful states but your game is up. We know you leeches have Igp, president, cjn, agf etc but it still won't change anything as the South has unanimously started to deprive you northern smelling pigs the privileges that has survived you for years because of your ignorance and stupidity. You guys are poor bitches, get your VATs from almajiri begging, Boko Haram and terrorist Fulani bandits or your rotten tomatoes and overworked disease cow meat. When I see northerners in my region whether it's suya seller, shoe maker, trader or tailor I am very enraged in thoughts of how we should take on the terrorists and not let them enjoy any peace in the south. Very soon it will be a crime in the south to allow northerners here enjoy peace. F you all

I strongly believe it's pat time we all south put our differences aside especially the west and join hands together and tackle the parasitic leeches from the north.
They are waging all kinds of war against us from political war to economic war,etc over the years.

Apart from those positions you listed,check the heads of all fed govt petroleum agencies from NNPC to DPR to PTDF to PPPMC to PPPRC and maritime agencies as well like NIMASA and NPA, you will be shocked to see that they are all northerners!!!!!! All our resources are all in the hands of northerners!!!! How the hell can the whole fed govt petroleum agency be headed by northerners!!?

See can you open a thread on this and tag me please?

We have to enlighten more people.

Kaduna1stson:


Nothing will happen. We have the AGF and CJN.

The south is just barking.

“WE have the AGF and CJN blah blah blah” is that how the rule of Law works? Will you please SHUT UP, if you don’t have anything productive to say? Balderdash!

Kaduna1stson:


Nothing will happen. We have the AGF and CJN.

The south is just barking.

you know without the south!! Lots of you are hopeless!!

Your comment display how abokish you r... .. ..

I know this will end in sentiments... .. .. .. no northerner will ever support State collection of VAT .. lol

Rekyz:

Just imagine the rubbish!

you can imagine!! He knows without the south, they are finished!! Let the truth be told

Kaduna1stson:


Nothing will happen. We have the AGF and CJN.

The south is just barking.

I Wish I can see you in person!!! Cuz You don't have sense at all !! If the south bark, the north will start panicking!! Shameless, you guys can't generate enough VAT despite your huge election population..

One of Nigeria's problem is malami.

Kaduna1stson:


Nothing will happen. We have the AGF and CJN.

The south is just barking.

You see your life? People like you are the problem we have in this country. We are talking about a better Nigeria & you are talking north & south.

No wonder the case is being delayed. They want to delay it to 2023, but the AGF and the CJ can’t be there for ever. All these things they are doing has opened the eyes of the south. The moment they get to that sit, either AGF or CJ, the north will see wonders

KoleDgreat2020:
The North cannot depend on d south forever. U guys better grow up because, d only thing that is constant is change

the North has been dependent on the south since 1914 amalgamation and its not going to change because that's how the br:itish set it and even when it changed in 1960 when Nigeria moved to regionalism some Nigerians were sponsored and supported to start a coup that reset things back to how to bri:tish put it.

it is the support the north get from the eu:roepeans and some willing southern Nigerians that motivates them...

ibietela2:


How does rivers state benefits from others? Did you label the money collected from other states?

Rivers and Lagos generate more than what they got so how is that beneficial?

Actually, FCT generates more VAT income than Rivers state. Before u turn this to a tribal thing.
And even u that is talking will be the first to cry when your state is unable to pay workers for months
Moreso, like i said earlier, VAT is tied to consumption not production. So you still need the other states to consume what is produced in your state for the companies to generate VAT. It common sense really

MondayOsunbor:



In USA that we copied our laws from states collect VAT not IRS

that how federation works

Northerners can twist any thing to suit their perverted ends

We didnt copy our laws from America sir. America is not the only federation in the world. Every country has its own laws
Moreover, our laws werent made by the north. You have your representatives in National Assembly to make laws there. This your narrative is false and ridiculous

One of the reasons we want Biafra and Yoruba Nation. Parasitic organisms are wasting our resources within this ungodly Boko Haram, bandits loving, and killer Herdsmen infested union.
We expect Wike to do the needful.
Pull down FIRS offices in Rivers and withdraw their CoO.
The only language APC understand is Tit for Tat.

JustforMen:

and you think it is a north and south issue?
a governor in rivers will give Julius Berger 200 billion naira contract for road and then a VAT of 7.5% will be deducted to be given to Kaduna state. what if the Rivers state governor refuses to do work in order to save his 7.5% of 200billion?
is that then not encouraging kaduna state governor and northern governor's to continue being dormant and just using free money to marry?
forget about the roadside argument about VAT for beer. that is not the issue.
the main argument is why a governor will have to pay 7.5% of the contract sum he awarded in his state to another state governor who is receiving the same monthly subvention.
VAT should be collected at the point where value is being added.
hope it is simple enough to take in.

Hmmmm

@ the bolded.... Says someone with that username.

AfonjaConehead:


I strongly believe it's pat time we all south put our differences aside especially the west and join hands together and tackle the parasitic leeches from the north.
They are waging all kinds of war against us from political war to economic war,etc over the years.

Apart from those positions you listed,check the heads of all fed govt petroleum agencies from NNPC to DPR to PTDF to PPPMC to PPPRC and maritime agencies as well like NIMASA and NPA, you will be shocked to see that they are all northerners!!!!!! All our resources are all in the hands of northerners!!!! How the hell can the whole fed govt petroleum agency be headed by northerners!!?

See can you open a thread on this and tag me please?

We have to enlighten more people.

Pls shut up. Go and check the recent stats and you'll see that Rivers is the second in VAT generation earning 117bn while Abuja came third with 94bn...

Stop saying balderash that you know nothing about and go and do actual research.

Pga, just know this. States will collect VAT and there's nothing you northerners can do about it.

This country will cease to be if the constitution that gives states right to collect VAT isn't followed to the letter.

Just watch.

allthingsgood:


Actually, FCT generates more VAT income than Rivers state. Before u turn this to a tribal thing.
And even u that is talking will be the first to cry when your state is unable to pay workers for months
Moreso, like i said earlier, VAT is tied to consumption not production. So you still need the other states to consume what is produced in your state for the companies to generate VAT. It common sense really

Ecstasy154:

https://thenationonlineng.net/collection-of-vat-by-firs-remains-fg/

This Malami is becoming so annoying in all his behavior and people should watch him

allthingsgood:


It appears u don't know anything about vat. That's definitely not how it works.

First of all, the FGN contributes about 65% of the entire vat so all the other states put together is about 35%.

Moreover, the distribution of vat is not to take from one state to give another. Vat is collected collectively and shared to all the states. So even your so called rivers state also benefits from other states too.

Further vat is a consumption tax, not production. So even if u produce in rivers state and sell in nassarawa, nassarawa will also be paying vat per product.

As it is, FGN. Is able to collect the VAT from the source once and for all. But if u leave VAT to the states, it means that many businesses will die because each state will continue collecting VAT from the same company. It means that that your Julius berger will pay the same 7.5 over and over again in each state it has presence. Julius berger can cope, but what of small startups

Your knowledge about VAT is misguided and filled with ignorant go and get enlightened.
Do you really know what VAT is??
No you don't.

This vat issue if not handled carefully, may finally lead to the disintegration of the geographical entity called Nigeria.

allthingsgood:


We didnt copy our laws from America sir. America is not the only federation in the world. Every country has its own laws
Moreover, our laws werent made by the north. You have your representatives in National Assembly to make laws there. This your narrative is false and ridiculous

HAHAHAHHA 1999 constitution was made by NASS

in your quickness to lie exposes your stupidity

Willokafor:
Your knowledge about VAT is misguided and filled with ignorant go and get enlightened.
Do you really know what VAT is??
No you don't.

Na u ask kweshon, na u still answer yourself
Mtscheeeew

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Midas01:
Pls shut up. Go and check the recent stats and you'll see that Rivers is the second in VAT generation earning 117bn while Abuja came third with 94bn...

Stop saying balderash that you know nothing about and go and do actual research.

Pga, just know this. States will collect VAT and there's nothing you northerners can do about it.

This country will cease to be if the constitution that gives states right to collect VAT isn't followed to the letter.

Just watch.

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Nonsense empty threats lol
I am not a northerner for your information
No state can collect any VAT till the Supreme Court has ruled. So cry me an ocean

allthingsgood:


It appears u don't know anything about vat. That's definitely not how it works.

First of all, the FGN contributes about 65% of the entire vat so all the other states put together is about 35%.

Moreover, the distribution of vat is not to take from one state to give another. Vat is collected collectively and shared to all the states. So even your so called rivers state also benefits from other states too.

Further vat is a consumption tax, not production. So even if u produce in rivers state and sell in nassarawa, nassarawa will also be paying vat per product.

As it is, FGN. Is able to collect the VAT from the source once and for all. But if u leave VAT to the states, it means that many businesses will die because each state will continue collecting VAT from the same company. It means that that your Julius berger will pay the same 7.5 over and over again in each state it has presence. Julius berger can cope, but what of small startups

How are all the state benefiting? Is Lagos that gives more than five times federal allocation that benefit from vat? , meanwhile ur concluding part is the benefit to the state collecting the vat because it will gear up industrization of all States. The problem with many states is free money they got , take it to the bank ,if these sets of southern governors fails ( which is very unlikely because we have vowed to recall or never vote any lawmaker that votes against the state collection of vat in the bill, so any southern law maker that wants to lose his or her seat should go against the people for selfish gain) on this very soon a set is coming that will achieve it . Any industry that can not established it annex company in other States should get a warehouse in the state upon which the state government will be collecting tax for the goods consumed in their states since you people claim vat is a consumers and not production tax . All network providers have their masts not only in the state but many regions in each state so there is a way that each region can calculate how much air time is consumed in his state per month the vat is paid to that respective states . We can't continue the old ways and expect any development, the north has dragged this country backwards enough . The whole of Nasarawa is sitting on different forms of natural resources, so also Gombe state ,zamfara is sitting on lead the most important minerals for bullet and battery making , I can't remember how many patient I have treated for spinal cord injury from illegal mining of tin in Jos.
Once the free money stops all the state governors will sit up and develop their states