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Re: 2023: North Exploiting Disunity Among Southern Politicians – Vatsa by JimiJunji: 2:00pm On Sep 25, 2021
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Re: 2023: North Exploiting Disunity Among Southern Politicians – Vatsa by Nobody: 2:01pm On Sep 25, 2021
Asgard73:
Next time learn to stick to Apc .. Yoruba man

Power returns North.. mark it.
Should be "remains" in the North olodo. Even if that will be the eventual outcome, you think you predicting that now will somehow make the Yorubas walk away?

You lot are becoming annoying with your cowardice and fear of competing. We are not ceding the APC ticket to anyone. Least of all Igbos. Stop wasting your breath with the repetitive blackmail and empty threats.
Re: 2023: North Exploiting Disunity Among Southern Politicians – Vatsa by tamdun: 2:08pm On Sep 25, 2021
mrvitalis:
Did south west fight for PDP in 1999?

So rochas , onu and all the igbos in APC are all fools ?
Yes they did, Ekweme contested the primary with obasanjo,
Re: 2023: North Exploiting Disunity Among Southern Politicians – Vatsa by Asgard73: 2:09pm On Sep 25, 2021
OneTemplate:
Should be "remains" in the North olodo. Even if that will be the eventual outcome, you think you predicting that now will somehow make the Yorubas walk away?

You lot are becoming annoying with your cowardice and fear of competing. We are not ceding the APC ticket to anyone. Least of all Igbos. Stop wasting your breath with the repetitive blackmail and empty threats.
Yorubatic trash..
Next!

People wey never get stand for the Apc party..

This Yoruba people sef

Butterflies... wey Dey reason bird..

Make Yoruba face Buni and malami first... before igbos..

Real cowards ..
Re: 2023: North Exploiting Disunity Among Southern Politicians – Vatsa by johnmartus(m): 2:11pm On Sep 25, 2021
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Frigga13:
Exploring the southwest greed..
reason why Nigerians are waiting to give Yoruba Tinubu or any Yoruba Apc ticket .. 50million votes..

M
[/s] you are stupiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiidddddddddddd
Re: 2023: North Exploiting Disunity Among Southern Politicians – Vatsa by johnmartus(m): 2:13pm On Sep 25, 2021
Yes they are fool .
mrvitalis:
Did south west fight for PDP in 1999?

So rochas , onu and all the igbos in APC are all fools ?
Re: 2023: North Exploiting Disunity Among Southern Politicians – Vatsa by Nobody: 2:17pm On Sep 25, 2021
Asgard73:
Yorubatic trash..
Next!

People wey never get stand for the Apc party..

This Yoruba people sef

Butterflies... wey Dey reason bird..

Make Yoruba face Buni and malami first... before igbos..

Real cowards ..
Rubbish talk from a politically unsophisticated Igbo man. Ever heard of the term "intial gra gra"?

Can't blame you sha. Afterall you are Igbo so I don't expect you to have rhe sophistication to appreciate that opportunists, especially those who are placed above their station, like Michael Aondoakaa etal, never last beyond their power drunk initial gra gra.

It is genuinely sagacious political leaders who last and usually win in the end. Not strawmen charlatans like Buni and Malami.
Re: 2023: North Exploiting Disunity Among Southern Politicians – Vatsa by NaijirianKing:
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Re: 2023: North Exploiting Disunity Among Southern Politicians – Vatsa by AcademicWriter: 2:42pm On Sep 25, 2021
knew south west battles for PDP in 1999? So rochas , onu and all the ora in APC not all idiots ?
Re: 2023: North Exploiting Disunity Among Southern Politicians – Vatsa by NaijirianKing:
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Re: 2023: North Exploiting Disunity Among Southern Politicians – Vatsa by OfoIgbo: 3:29pm On Sep 25, 2021
seunmsg:
Is anybody stoping Rochas, Onu and other interested politicians of Igbo ethnicity from contesting for APC ticket?

As far as APC is concerned, the presidential ticket will be zoned to the south and all interested southerners will contest for the ticket. We don’t care if it is Jonathan, Osinbajo, Tinubu, Rochas, Onu, Amaechi or even Fayemi. We are going to ensure that a southerner emerge as the party’s presidential candidate.

In the same vein, we expect those of you from the south that supports PDP to push for the same agenda. Push for Peter Obi, Ekweremadu, Makinde, Wike etc to contest for the party’s ticket. PDP is very strong in south east and south south, it shouldn’t be too difficult to push for the party’s presidential candidate to come from the south. Do your bit and let others do theirs.
For APC, I think your writeup will be a little palatable, if you replace Tinubu with Akeredolu as a potential APC presidential candidate. If Igbos and much of SS will ever vote in, a SW president in 2023, Akeredolu's name should be all over the place.

People like Prof Muoghalu, Pat Utomi, GEJ, AfDB's Adesina, Festus Odimegwu, Sowore should be wildcards that can be deployed, when the political game shifts ground in a way that doesn't favour the obvious party men that you mentioned.

At the moment, the SE will rather vote for Uzodinjo or a Fulani as the Nigerian president, than for Tinubu or Wike. And in this journey, the whole south has to be united
Re: 2023: North Exploiting Disunity Among Southern Politicians – Vatsa by MrMaestro: 4:18pm On Sep 25, 2021
Asgard73:
The greed of southwest is alarming and nauseating... even to other Nigerians
The greed of the southeast is absolutely sickening. After all southerners have decided to field a southern president, it’s igbos that now wants to betray everyone else by claiming the presidency for themselves. As if the SS and SW shouldn’t compete. Absolute nonsense.
Re: 2023: North Exploiting Disunity Among Southern Politicians – Vatsa by LegendHero(m): 4:25pm On Sep 25, 2021
mrvitalis:
Did south west fight for PDP in 1999?

So rochas , onu and all the igbos in APC are all fools ?
Yes, Obasanjo fought for the ticket in PDP with Ekwueme. He was only able to emerge because the Northern caucus supported him in the primaries.

This was the result.

- OBASANJO 67.98%
-ALEX EKWUEME 21.36%
-DON ETIEBET 4.35%
-GRAHAM DOUGLAS 2.91%
-JIM NWOBODO 2.42%
-PHILIP ASIODU 0.49%
-FRANCIS ELLAH 0.49%

People like Atiku, Jerry Gana, and Yahyah Kwande controlled OBJ campaign then for the primaries. Infact most of the Governor-elect of the PDP in the North stood with OBJ then. North made ObJ in PDP and not the Ibos.

See Ekwueme figures, where did the delegate votes came from? So bro, you fought against OBJ for the ticket just as the Yorubas will fight against any Ibo in APC.
Re: 2023: North Exploiting Disunity Among Southern Politicians – Vatsa by LegendHero(m): 4:32pm On Sep 25, 2021
OfoIgbo:
For APC, I think your writeup will be a little palatable, if you replace Tinubu with Akeredolu as a potential APC presidential candidate. If Igbos and much of SS will ever vote in, a SW president in 2023, Akeredolu's name should be all over the place.

People like Prof Muoghalu, Pat Utomi, GEJ, AfDB's Adesina, Festus Odimegwu, Sowore should be wildcards that can be deployed, when the political game shifts ground in a way that doesn't favour the obvious party men that you mentioned.

At the moment, the SE will rather vote for Uzodinjo or a Fulani as the Nigerian president, than for Tinubu or Wike. And in this journey, the whole south has to be united
See even if the SW field Akeredolu, we know the Igbos will never vote him coz they always give bloc vote to PDP now considering the fact that they might have the VP slot. We will not be deceived.

I prefer Tinubu to Akeredolu because when you talk of National reach, Tinubu is not Akeredolu’s mate and Tinubu is well accepted in the North compared to Akeredolu. To win the election, you will need some votes from the North so alliance is key.

Any Yoruba that banks on Igbo vote is a foolish politician and I’m sure the APC deciders know this fact. In this games it’s better to court the North than the SE if a Yoruba emerges presidential flag bearer of APC.

Personally my preferred candidate is Fashola, but I am sure anyone of Tinubu or Osinbajo have better success rate against Atiku or anybody PDP fields.
Re: 2023: North Exploiting Disunity Among Southern Politicians – Vatsa by afube: 5:02pm On Sep 25, 2021
Asgard73:
The greed of southwest is alarming and nauseating... even to other Nigerians
it is very hard to work with Yorubas politically and otherwise, they say the right things and do exactly the opposite..........Fani Kayode is a mirror image of the way the collective Yoruba mind works....crass opportunism! We as Ndigbo have our own unique negative issues but see the Yoruba one can break your heart irredeemably! My father who was a Biafran captain during the civil war said he and more knowledgeable officers broke down in tears when they heard over the radio that Awolowo had ordered Yorubas to join the Nigerian army after Biafran forces crossed into the midwest, of course, Awolowo knew that expeditionary force was not an invasion force to annex Yorubaland but a task force to clear the Fulani federal forces holding the western region captive...........trust Awolowo he chose the easiest way out he made the mistake of joining the northern dominated federal army to wage war on his own negro brothers.........chai et tu Brutus !! Nigeria never recovered and will never recover from that backstab..................sad really !
Re: 2023: North Exploiting Disunity Among Southern Politicians – Vatsa by OfoIgbo: 5:24pm On Sep 25, 2021
LegendHero:
See even if the SW field Akeredolu, we know the Igbos will never vote him coz they always give bloc vote to PDP now considering the fact that they might have the VP slot. We will not be deceived.

I prefer Tinubu to Akeredolu because when you talk of National reach, Tinubu is not Akeredolu’s mate and Tinubu is well accepted in the North compared to Akeredolu. To win the election, you will need some votes from the North so alliance is key.

Any Yoruba that banks on Igbo vote is a foolish politician and I’m sure the APC deciders know this fact. In this games it’s better to court the North than the SE if a Yoruba emerges presidential flag bearer of APC.

Personally my preferred candidate is Fashola, but I am sure anyone of Tinubu or Osinbajo have better success rate against Atiku or anybody PDP fields.
I can assure you that if Tinubu emerges the APC candidate, Igbos will vote for any northerner that PDP brings up, that is if they don't choose to boycott the election.

In the past Buhari chose Igbo VP candidates, but that did not make Igbos vote for him, so I believe you have miscalculated Igbos.

Let APC try and choose Tinubu as their presidential candidate. I will guarantee you that a Fulani will be returned as the president of Nigeria. Don't think you can dare Igbos. Igbos are usually the second most populous ethnic group in many states of the nation, so any PDP candidate that Igbos want, will definitely make the 25% required votes in most states.
It will be Tinubu's SW against the SE, SS and north whose son will be the presidential candidate. Tinubu will go nowhere. I can assure you of that.

It is only when APC chooses someone from the south other than Tinubu, will a southern president emerge from APC.
Re: 2023: North Exploiting Disunity Among Southern Politicians – Vatsa by Okwyjesus(m): 5:29pm On Sep 25, 2021
Asgard73:
The greed of southwest is alarming and nauseating... even to other Nigerians
The southern Nigeria bruhaha will be respected if the ticket goes SE. Else the north should continue.
Re: 2023: North Exploiting Disunity Among Southern Politicians – Vatsa by LegendHero(m): 5:35pm On Sep 25, 2021
OfoIgbo:
I can assure you that if Tinubu emerges the APC candidate, Igbos will vote for any northerner that PDP brings up, that is if they don't choose to boycott the election.
You are 100% correct in this assertion. That is exactly why we have cancelled out Igbo votes in the permutation. Mind you, with IPOB issue going on and the campaign against elections, I doubt the SE will record any vote number that will make muc difference

In the past Buhari chose Igbo VP candidates, but that did not make Igbos vote for him, so I believe you have miscalculated Igbos.
Did Buhari contested in PDP? That is the main thing. The same Igbos that can't give Ojukwu their son their majority vote is who you are talking here.

Let APC try and choose Tinubu as their presidential candidate. I will guarantee you that a Fulani will be returned as the president of Nigeria. Don't think you can dare Igbos. Igbos are usually the second most populous ethnic group in many states of the nation, so any PDP candidate that Igbos want, will definitely make the 25% required votes in most states.
It will be Tinubu's SW against the SE, SS and north whose son will be the presidential candidate. Tinubu will go nowhere. I can assure you of that.
Lol, Tinubu will win Atiku in an election as it stands currently under the present political climate and Fulani herdsmen rhetorics. Who are the Igbos that we can't dare? We have dared you multiple times and you guys are nothing! Why did you not help your candidate win elections in 1993, 2015, and 2019 if truly you constitute 25% voting bloc in most states? Why haven't you being able to change Lagos election since 1999 if you have the numbers? As it stands today, I fear SS more in terms of vote than I fear SE. We can dare SE and nothing will happen.

It is only when APC chooses someone from the south other than Tinubu, will a southern president emerge from APC.
Whether they choose Tinubu or Osinbajo, they will emerge. The main hurdle for Tinubu now is just the choice of vice and the religious question. That is the only thing I am seeing handicapping Tinubu.
Re: 2023: North Exploiting Disunity Among Southern Politicians – Vatsa by OfoIgbo: 5:45pm On Sep 25, 2021
LegendHero:
You are 100% correct in this assertion. That is exactly why we have cancelled out Igbo votes in the permutation. Mind you, with IPOB issue going on and the campaign against elections, I doubt the SE will record any vote number that will make muc difference


Did Buhari contested in PDP? That is the main thing. The same Igbos that can't give Ojukwu their son their majority vote is who you are talking here.


Lol, Tinubu will win Atiku in an election as it stands currently under the present political climate and Fulani herdsmen rhetorics. Who are the Igbos that we can't dare? We have dared you multiple times and you guys are nothing! Why did you not help your candidate win elections in 1993, 2015, and 2019 if truly you constitute 25% voting bloc in most states? Why haven't you being able to change Lagos election since 1999 if you have the numbers? As it stands today, I fear SS more in terms of vote than I fear SE. We can dare SE and nothing will happen.


Whether they choose Tinubu or Osinbajo, they will emerge. The main hurdle for Tinubu now is just the choice of vice and the religious question. That is the only thing I am seeing handicapping Tinubu.
The same Tinubu that couldn't do a thing in Edo state.

Anyway, Igbo-supported candidates won the 1999, 2003, 2007. 2011 elections. And if GEJ hadn't been lilly-livered, would have won the 2015 presidential election by ensuring that the millions of under-aged voters in the north, who voted for Buhari, were punished and their votes, invalidated.

Atiku is not the only northern option. You have Tambuwal and the former governor of Kano state. Tinubu will go nowhere, and you think the SS will vote for someone that undermined their son? Tinubu will definitely loose the SS and SE, and the north will be more likely to vote for their PDP son, instead of Tinubu.

Tinubu is about to find out that his type of subterfuge is an elementary one. Edo people showed him that he is a nobody, outside the SW.
Re: 2023: North Exploiting Disunity Among Southern Politicians – Vatsa by LegendHero(m): 6:08pm On Sep 25, 2021
OfoIgbo:
The same Tinubu that couldn't do a thing in Edo state.

Anyway, Igbo-supported candidates won the 1999, 2003, 2007. 2011 elections. And if GEJ hadn't been lilly-livered, would have won the 2015 presidential election by ensuring that the millions of under-aged voters in the north, who voted for Buhari, were punished and their votes, invalidated.

Atiku is not the only northern option. You have Tambuwal and the former governor of Kano state. Tinubu will go nowhere, and you think the SS will vote for someone that undermined their son? Tinubu will definitely loose the SS and SE, and the north will be more likely to vote for their PDP son, instead of Tinubu.

Tinubu is about to find out that his type of subterfuge is an elementary one. Edo people showed him that he is a nobody, outside the SW.
The same Tinubu sponsored Osiomole election in Edo as governor (ACN) and Oshobaba won then, so you win some and lose some. Count those winnings of Tinubu too when you count his losses.

The same 2003, 2007, that PDP got votes in the SW and 2011 when Yoruba gave Jonathan their votes or which one?

Even Buhari got over 35% or so votes from the SS in the 2019 election so why are you lumping the SE & SS? Let the SS speak for themselves.

Tambuwal to Tinubu LOL!
Re: 2023: North Exploiting Disunity Among Southern Politicians – Vatsa by bobowaja(m): 7:37pm On Sep 25, 2021
mrvitalis:
Did south west fight for PDP in 1999?

So rochas , onu and all the igbos in APC are all fools ?
They lost out. Yoruba and north fought for PDP ticket.
Re: 2023: North Exploiting Disunity Among Southern Politicians – Vatsa by bobowaja(m):
Smithkafors:
You are not making sense!. You just said that Igbos should fight for presidency in PDP, he told you Onu, Rochas and Co who are the founding members of APC, are they not also Igbos?. No party in Nigeria has any reason to deny Igbos presidency,except for greedy politicians from other regions. When Obj was given presidency in 1999, did he work for it?. Did Yaradua work for it?. I don't just get!. No excuses!
No one is stoping those you listed from contesting APC primaries. Absolutely no one
Re: 2023: North Exploiting Disunity Among Southern Politicians – Vatsa by bobowaja(m): 7:42pm On Sep 25, 2021
seunmsg:
How? Who is stopping Rochas, Onu, Ngige etc from contesting for APC’s ticket? Mention the person and let’s all fight him or her together.
They are just scared of facing anyone fairly, so they want to blackmail to get it
Re: 2023: North Exploiting Disunity Among Southern Politicians – Vatsa by kcnwaigbo: 7:44pm On Sep 25, 2021
OneTemplate:
You Igbos are shameless. Who is greedy if not Igbos who want APC to allow them reap where they have not sown to the detriment of the Yorubas in the APC?

Yorubas paid their dues and sacrificed more than all others to get APC where it is today. Therefore Yorubas are only demanding what they have earned meritoriously .

To show the nobility of the Yorubas, look no further than how Yorubas in the PDP are not making any demands.

Yet unprincipled Igbos can only cast greedy and covetous eyes on the APC ticket while silent about their public disgrace at the hands of the PDP.

Igbo cowardly blackmail and name-calling against APC Yorubas will never work. Ridiculous people.
Likewise the NE/NC have even contributed more to the APC than the SW, stop blackmailing them not to contest
Re: 2023: North Exploiting Disunity Among Southern Politicians – Vatsa by kcnwaigbo: 7:45pm On Sep 25, 2021
bobowaja:
They are just scared of facing anyone fairly, so they want to blackmail to get it
Last time I checked the SW has been the ones blackmailing the North not to contest
Re: 2023: North Exploiting Disunity Among Southern Politicians – Vatsa by kcnwaigbo: 7:46pm On Sep 25, 2021
LegendHero:
You are 100% correct in this assertion. That is exactly why we have cancelled out Igbo votes in the permutation. Mind you, with IPOB issue going on and the campaign against elections, I doubt the SE will record any vote number that will make muc difference


Did Buhari contested in PDP? That is the main thing. The same Igbos that can't give Ojukwu their son their majority vote is who you are talking here.


Lol, Tinubu will win Atiku in an election as it stands currently under the present political climate and Fulani herdsmen rhetorics. Who are the Igbos that we can't dare? We have dared you multiple times and you guys are nothing! Why did you not help your candidate win elections in 1993, 2015, and 2019 if truly you constitute 25% voting bloc in most states? Why haven't you being able to change Lagos election since 1999 if you have the numbers? As it stands today, I fear SS more in terms of vote than I fear SE. We can dare SE and nothing will happen.


Whether they choose Tinubu or Osinbajo, they will emerge. The main hurdle for Tinubu now is just the choice of vice and the religious question. That is the only thing I am seeing handicapping Tinubu.
Oga from the look of things Tinubu won't even smell the APC ticket.Malami and Buni has taken over the party from him
Re: 2023: North Exploiting Disunity Among Southern Politicians – Vatsa by kcnwaigbo: 7:47pm On Sep 25, 2021
bobowaja:
No one is stoping those Igbo you listed from contesting APC primaries. Absolutely no one
Everyone will contest including Northerners
Re: 2023: North Exploiting Disunity Among Southern Politicians – Vatsa by President99: 7:48pm On Sep 25, 2021
Frigga13:
Exploring the southwest greed..
reason why Nigerians are waiting to give Yoruba Tinubu or any Yoruba Apc ticket .. 50million votes..

M
you are fool! All the presidents that the North has produced are from the NWest, yet North Central and North East aint crying foul! The presidency is rotated btw North and South, and "not among the 6 geopolitical regions."
Re: 2023: North Exploiting Disunity Among Southern Politicians – Vatsa by kcnwaigbo: 7:54pm On Sep 25, 2021
President99:
you are fool! All the presidents that the North has produced are from the NWest, yet North Central and North East aint crying foul! The presidency is rotated btw North and South, and "not among the 6 geopolitical regions."
Oga SW will never get the presidency in 2023.Instead of power to return to the SW,The SS/SE would gladly give it to the North.

The NW did not scuttle the presidency of the NC/NE
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