JOSCOFELIX:
intel with me say the military have send a bill to the senate for the establishment of armed force trust fund of 5 to 8 billion dollar for procurement for the next 5 years. i hope the senate look to this

Not nearly enough. We should be looking at 1% of GDP per annum which is still below international best practice of 2%.
1% of GDP is $4.5bn.
This works out to $20bn in 5 years. This expenditures should go into MTEF&FP.
There is a way you spend this money that the local economy is positively impacted.

Oasis001:




https://www.thecable.ng/seast-governors-must-break-this-silence-on-the-killing-of-igbo-muslims/amp

I didn't see an answer to the question I asked you in that link

I was expecting to see a video of IPOB members quoting a verse from the Bible before beheading igbo muslims in that link

Did you read the story of the pastor that was killed by muslim youths in a community in kano state on September 23 2021, they lynched the pastor and burnt his church. It was an unprovoked attack.

The man was buried last week.

https://.com/pastor-who-was-murdered-by-mob-in-kano-laid-to-rest/

Nah ordinary religious violence be this.

I can give you loads of videos of Islamic terrorists Like Boko Haram reading quotes from the Quran before beheading who dey consider an infidel

There is no way anybody fit confuse me UGM and Boko Haram are the same.

UGM is fighting for freedom and feel they are protecting their lands from invaders , while Boko Haram is fighting a religious war.

Both are a terrorist group though.

But few Igbos action in UGM can't be use to judge every ibo man, just the way few Muslims action in groups like Boko Haram will not be use to judge every Muslims.

DubaiLandLord2:
I didn't see an answer to the question I asked you in that link

I was expecting to see a video of IPOB members quoting a verse from the Bible before beheading igbo muslims in that link

Did you read the story of the pastor that was killed by muslim youths in a community in kano state on September 23 2021, they lynched the pastor and burnt his church. It was an unprovoked attack.

The man was buried last week.

https://.com/pastor-who-was-murdered-by-mob-in-kano-laid-to-rest/

Nah ordinary religious violence be this.

I can give you loads of videos of Islamic terrorists Like Boko Haram reading quotes from the Quran before beheading who dey consider an infidel

There is no way anybody fit confuse me UGM and Boko Haram are the same.

UGM is fighting for freedom and feels they are protecting their lands from invaders , while Boko Haram is fighting a religious war.

Both are a terrorist group though.

Your last Line is all I need. We are derailing and don't wanna keep on with it.

Oasis001:




Your last Line is all I need. We are derailing and don't wanna keep on with it.

https://westafricaweekly.substack.com/p/cornflakes-for-jihad-the-boko-haram

You might want to read this but note that the journalist isn't all that reputable.

When you are done reading, ask yourself some of these questions ;

1) Why did OBJ fail to secure a conviction against these terrorists financiers.
2) why did GEJ fail to do the same thing?
3) Why has the opposition and other groups/individuals failed to expose all these until now? Especially CAN
4) How is it that it is the president that has equipped the military the most to better take care of the country's security threat that is a sympathizer of the terrorists?
5)How come the same Northern Nigeria that voted massively for GEJ(even though GEJ did not win in many northern states, he had far more votes in those states than his opponents had in the SouthEast and Southsouth and won in states like Borno, Kogi, Nasarawa, etc) did not want a Christian to be their president?
6) The same can be said of OBJs election, he had most of his votes from the north yet we are supposed to believe the north doesn't want a Christian president.
7) Sheikh Gumi is also a very close friend of Obasanjo and Atiku, could that be the reason why the members of his sect that were arrested then were eventually released?



David Hundenyin is the type of journalist who has little facts then make up the rest to nail individuals. Why would you use pictures with certain people who might be connected with terrorism as proof that someone is also a sympathizer with terrorism.

Oasis001:




Dumb post ever on this Board..... LMFAO.

If I may ask...... what is Jihad? Some are you are brainwashed to condemn Islam, to sternly believe its a Religion that propagate violence and terrorism without facts to back it up.

Let me help a bit with understanding of the word "Jihad"

What is the true meaning of the concept of Jihad

The root of the Arabic word Jihad is Jahd which connotes endurance of rigorous conditions. Thus Jihad means to strive to the utmost for the achievement of a purpose and to leave nothing undone in pursuance of it.

Jihad is of three types

The Jihad against oneself – which in Islamic idiom is called the greatest Jihad (Jihad Akbar) - To purify oneself.

The Jihad that is waged against Satan and Satanic teachings and designs, and is called the great Jihad (Jihad Kabeer) - Propagate the religion.

The Jihad that is waged against the enemy of freedom of conscience; this is called the lesser Jihad (Jihad Asghar) - Holy War.

Read BBC Submission on Jihad for more details of the word.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-30411519

blahblah blah... please dont act smarter than you are!

Fact is: The reality of Jihad is different then your academical definition of the the term Jihad. This section of Nairaland is filled with heinous examples of what Jihad has brought to our country. Why do you defend this terrorists with you persistent appeasement of their ideology?

Abeg who has update on the damboa attack? Meanwhile these xtian vs Muslim kill pass and so on, should rest abeg.

GeneralFarouq:

He never paid attention to his teachers while he was pretending to be a Muslim
Some of those verses were revealed in response to special events and some rules were made specially for few group of people...
The problem anywhere in the world is there are always a few pple who would only extract that aspect they want for thier evils to have backing... The Quran also said Allah hates injustice makes unlawful killing of innocent pple whether Christian or Muslims and many more....they didn't see this part.


To General house members.
If u don't like a religion keep it too urself, this is a public forum where Muslims Christian, Hindustan pegans, athiest etc possibly share opinions... It is immature to categorically come out in all one's strength just to castigate and discredit a religion u apparently know nothing about.

Never have I seen Muslim on this particular section bring out insults against Christianity... Rather we respond to it members aggression..
We ve shouting terrorism terrorism, but this act of frequently castigating Islam and Muslims alike is in itself a "RELIGIOUS TERRORISM".

They should focus on radical Islam which is really the problem and not Islam. There a lot of Muslims who are educated, smart, progressive and deradicalized.

PROVERBZ:
no they are Christians and I hate them equally.

And j also feel like their hate was as a result of years of Muslims behaving badly and not being put in check.

Infact I feel like Islam brings out the worst in people, the Muslims themselves and those that stay close to them.

Monks are known to be the most peaceful people in the world but they can't live with Muslims. Same for Hinds and Muslims in India. Same for Christians and Muslims in Central African Republic. And now the same thing is happening in Mozambique. The people over there would start hating Muslims until the eventually become like them.

They always live together until the Muslims attack.

So the violence IPOB and likes are melting out on the one hand, and the celebration by thier supporters where all caused by Islam...

JOSCOFELIX:
intel with me say the military have send a bill to the senate for the establishment of armed force trust fund of 5 to 8 billion dollar for procurement for the next 5 years. i hope the senate look to this

Brilliant.

I was discussing with someone on the need for Nigeria to have a Special National Guard Service to counter internal threats. It should rather be commanded like the State Service and not as a military service branch, unless for administrative support. A specially trained and equipped force of about 5000 operators divided into specific task groups is adequate, with support personnel totalling up to 12000-15000. A dedicated force people can trust, separate from the regular army, devoid of civilian issues and rights abuses as much as possible.

https://twitter.com/spectatorindex/status/1444630603819675648?s=19

Algeria bans French planes from flying over thier airspace.

Our Algerian friends please help enlighten us on this.

SuperSixSeven:


blahblah blah... please dont act smarter than you are!

Fact is: The reality of Jihad is different then your academical definition of the the term Jihad. This section of Nairaland is filled with heinous examples of what Jihad has brought to our country. Why do you defend this terrorists with you persistent appeasement of their ideology?

So all Muslims are Terrorists? See I don't wanna derail ant further. Let's end it here please.

Oasis001:




So all Muslims are Terrorists? See I don't wanna derail ant further. Let's end it here please.

You do not want to derail but come with a strawman argument here.

Did i say that all muslims defend this ideology?

Oasis001:




This Guy is indeed Dumb I swear..... LMFAO. I thought this Thread is full of sensible Guys until these Mumus prove otherwise. Bunch of lazy Brains. It takes you few minutes to go online and do some research, but NO our Daddy GO has told us Islam is synonym to Terrorism.

Mumu even re - echoed Gibberish they've been spreading about division in Islam as being practiced in Nigeria from ethnic point of view. Have you been to the Mosque? Have you ever prayed? How do you know Fulani won't allow a Yoruba or an Igbo Muslim to lead them in Prayer?!

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Deuteronomy 13:6-10

King James Version

6 If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;

7 Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth;

8 Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him:

9 But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.

10 And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the Lord thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.

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I guess that's another great Chapter in the Quran that calls for Jihad against Non Believers.

Here

Fynline:
https://twitter.com/spectatorindex/status/1444630603819675648?s=19

Algeria bans French planes from flying over thier airspace.

Our Algerian friends please help enlighten us on this.

Officially due to "meddling in internal affairs" but some people are saying it is due to a certain visa issue.

Whyem15:
https://westafricaweekly.substack.com/p/cornflakes-for-jihad-the-boko-haram

You might want to read this but note that the journalist isn't all that reputable.

When you are done reading, ask yourself some of these questions ;

1) Why did OBJ fail to secure a conviction against these terrorists financiers.
2) why did GEJ fail to do the same thing?
3) Why has the opposition and other groups/individuals failed to expose all these until now? Especially CAN
4) How is it that it is the president that has equipped the military the most to better take care of the country's security threat that is a sympathizer of the terrorists?
5)How come the same Northern Nigeria that voted massively for GEJ(even though GEJ did not win in many northern states, he had far more votes in those states than his opponents had in the SouthEast and Southsouth and won in states like Borno, Kogi, Nasarawa, etc) did not want a Christian to be their president?
6) The same can be said of OBJs election, he had most of his votes from the north yet we are supposed to believe the north doesn't want a Christian president.
7) Sheikh Gumi is also a very close friend of Obasanjo and Atiku, could that be the reason why the members of his sect that were arrested then were eventually released?



David Hundenyin is the type of journalist who has little facts then make up the rest to nail individuals. Why would you use pictures with certain people who might be connected with terrorism as proof that someone is also a sympathizer with terrorism.

To most of the questions you asked, I would say the answer is politics.
I have heard about how the Sharia law came by in different northern state and it is similar to how David stated it but the Sharia law enactment wasn't stop because of politics.
Question 4, I don't know which answer is appropriate enough

Whyem15:
https://westafricaweekly.substack.com/p/cornflakes-for-jihad-the-boko-haram

You might want to read this but note that the journalist isn't all that reputable.

When you are done reading, ask yourself some of these questions ;

1) Why did OBJ fail to secure a conviction against these terrorists financiers.
2) why did GEJ fail to do the same thing?
3) Why has the opposition and other groups/individuals failed to expose all these until now? Especially CAN
4) How is it that it is the president that has equipped the military the most to better take care of the country's security threat that is a sympathizer of the terrorists?
5)How come the same Northern Nigeria that voted massively for GEJ(even though GEJ did not win in many northern states, he had far more votes in those states than his opponents had in the SouthEast and Southsouth and won in states like Borno, Kogi, Nasarawa, etc) did not want a Christian to be their president?
6) The same can be said of OBJs election, he had most of his votes from the north yet we are supposed to believe the north doesn't want a Christian president.
7) Sheikh Gumi is also a very close friend of Obasanjo and Atiku, could that be the reason why the members of his sect that were arrested then were eventually released?



David Hundenyin is the type of journalist who has little facts then make up the rest to nail individuals. Why would you use pictures with certain people who might be connected with terrorism as proof that someone is also a sympathizer with terrorism.

An Excellent article. It broadened my view and perspective about the terrorism situation in Nigeria. Thanks very much for sharing this.

SuperSixSeven:


You do not want to derail but come with a strawman argument here.

Did i say that all muslims defend this ideology?

Seem una dey enjoy am, afterall today na Sunday. Let's carry on then.

EricBraven:

Here

EricBraven:

The fact that you believe that a daddy GO goes on the pulpit and preach violence is beyond me.

.....but NO our Daddy GO has told us Islam is synonym to Terrorism.

If your Pastor tells you, Islam is synonymous to Terrorism, he's preaching Violence I guess?

Oasis001:








If your Pastor tells you, Islam is synonymous to Terrorism, he's preaching Violence I guess?

Then what does it implies? , It just like saying every Muslim is a terrorist which I haven't heard from prominent GO's but here you are hitting on it like it has been said.

Stormtrooper11:

An Excellent article. It broadened my view and perspective about the terrorism situation in Nigeria. Thanks very much for sharing this.

Don't base your judgment on the article, there is a reason popular media groups(as shameless as they are) haven't published it. Many parts of the article were already on the net years ago, the guy just added 1 and 1 together to give 3. The last time a popular news group published one of his articles, they had to re-edit multiple times, he used truecaller to link a serving minister to the murder of a girl.

Fynline:
https://twitter.com/spectatorindex/status/1444630603819675648?s=19

Algeria bans French planes from flying over thier airspace.

Our Algerian friends please help enlighten us on this.

There is some diplomatic tensions with france , they reduced to half the number of visa delivred for algerians , moroccans and tunisians as firdt step .

Also the french president released anti-Algerian declarations . to seduce french voters from the extreme right politic side, a politic move for the french elections which will be held soon.

Algeria recalled its ambassador in France, and decided to close its airspace to the French military aircrafts which operate in the Sahel

IPOB sympathizers claiming it's not possible for IPOB to be able to burn "a whole DSS office" lmao, many of these offices are just to gather intels, no one will defend them and all you need is a molotov cocktail to burn it down

What's worse, DSS has claimed they attacked the office with the intention of abducting DSS personnel to negotiate the release of some of their high ranking members. It is only a matter of time before they get desperate to the extent of kidnapping school kids to negotiate with security agencies.

From the clusterfuck we're in, can it be postulated that core northern states and some parts of their population willingly or unwillingly have been engaged in acts in parallel with the Nigerian state and constitution under guise of religion.

Where do we go from here or stop this in its tracks?

a top bh have surrender full gist later

BlackBaron:
From the clusterfuck we're in, can it be postulated that core northern states and some parts of their population willingly or unwillingly have been engaged in acts in parallel with the Nigerian state and constitution under guise of religion.

Where do we go from here or stop this in its tracks?

Individuals and groups across the country have done this, it is only easier to use religion as a tool in Northern Nigeria, often times the end game is economical and at other times it is political and until the government is much stronger, there isn't much that can be done.
A good example is the man Government Epemupolo popularly known as Tompolo, he has been declared water by the state but the state can't really go after him even though they know where he is. There are many such people and entity across the country. The day human and organ trafficking rings get exposed in this country, many important people will be indicted yet nothing will be done, the state already knows those involved from interrogating criminals caught but there isn't much that can be done.


Another important example is the Panama papers that indicted very important people including Dangote, Saraki and David Mark, today they walk free. Mind you, another document similar to the Panama papers was released today.

The government knows those who sponsored terrorism, but going after them will be quite difficult, I believe this is part of the reason the current government is yet to release the names of the sponsors, many of those people are capable of severe damages.

Whyem15:

Another important example is the Panama papers that indicted very important people including Dangote, Saraki and David Mark, today they walk free. Mind you, another document similar to the Panama papers was released today.

The government knows those who sponsored terrorism, but going after them will be quite difficult, I.

The country cant get worse than it is,. China went after elites in it's corruption war nothing happened... Govt should have proof that is undeniable and go after them, expose them in court proceeding and ensure thier conviction... As long as one particular group of pple are not targeted e.g prosecuting only your as or igbos... No one would give two cents ..
The problem as with Nigerians is playing the ethnic game.
If we don't go after the sponsors we know now, others will feel invincible and continue their evil deeds... This needs to stop.

GeneralFarouq:

The country cant get worse than it is,. China went after elites in it's corruption war nothing happened... Govt should have proof that is undeniable and go after them, expose them in court proceeding and ensure thier conviction... As long as one particular group of pple are not targeted e.g prosecuting only your as or igbos... No one would give two cents ..
The problem as with Nigerians is playing the ethnic game.
If we don't go after the sponsors we know now, others will feel invincible and continue their evil deeds... This needs to stop.

Did you seriously mention court?
The same judiciary that hasn't secured any conviction against Evans after 5 years, but can give multiple political injunctions within a week. Orji Uzor Kalu was found guilty and sentenced by one court, released by another and now another court has given an injunction against EFCC to ever open a case against him.

The same with Peter Odili who got a perpetual injunction against EFCC from arresting or investigating him.
Court judgements are for sale in Nigeria and any government that relies on the judiciary will fail woefully.

Whyem15:


Did you seriously mention court?
The same judiciary that hasn't secured any conviction against Evans after 5 years, but can give multiple political injunctions within a week. Orji Uzor Kalu was found guilty and sentenced by one court, released by another and now another court has given an injunction against EFCC to ever open a case against him.

The same with Peter Odili who got a perpetual injunction against EFCC from arresting or investigating him.
Court judgements are for sale in Nigeria and any government that relies on the judiciary will fail woefully.

Sad truth but how do this judge's just come up with this things like ...... How do you stop a law enforcement agencies from investigating and persecuting an individual

EricBraven:

Sad truth but how do this judge's just come up with this things like ...... How do you stop a law enforcement agencies from investigating and persecuting an individual

There are certain loopholes in the constitution that allows for things such as this that the corrupt judges make use of. The judiciary is as corrupt as the police force and any attempt to go after the corrupt judges will result in the government losing a lot of important cases.

This was in 2016 when DSS was raiding the homes of judges and gathering evidence against them.

But a debate rages on over the propriety of the DSS’ raid, even though Femi Falana, human rights lawyer, has revealed that judges suspected of corruption usually rush to the court to prevent their arrest, investigation and prosecution, once they have been invited by the Independent Corrupt Practices and other Offences Commission (ICPC) or the Economic and Financial Crimes Commission (EFCC).

What eventually happened?

On Saturday, the Nigeria Bar Association (NBA) condemned the arrest of the judges, threatening “consequences” if they were not released. It also declared a state of emergency, constituting a crisis management team to wade into the problem.

And this

The Senate has described last year’s invasion of homes of some judges by operatives of the Department of States Services (DSS) as an illegality.‎ The parliament which came hard on the security agency said that there was a need for all government bodies to operate within the confines of their mandate.

Not surprising as the senate president and many law makers were also battling anti-corruption cases around that time.

Mind you, the Chief Justice of the federation at the time was eventually charged with fraud and was advised to resign by the judicial council.

Now when 3 of the 4 arms of government are against one, how is the one expected the win?
(the fourth is the media )

Whyem15:


Individuals and groups across the country have done this, it is only easier to use religion as a tool in Northern Nigeria, often times the end game is economical and at other times it is political and until the government is much stronger, there isn't much that can be done.
A good example is the man Government Epemupolo popularly known as Tompolo, he has been declared water by the state but the state can't really go after him even though they know where he is. There are many such people and entity across the country. The day human and organ trafficking rings get exposed in this country, many important people will be indicted yet nothing will be done, the state already knows those involved from interrogating criminals caught but there isn't much that can be done.


Another important example is the Panama papers that indicted very important people including Dangote, Saraki and David Mark, today they walk free. Mind you, another document similar to the Panama papers was released today.

The government knows those who sponsored terrorism, but going after them will be quite difficult, I believe this is part of the reason the current government is yet to release the names of the sponsors, many of those people are capable of severe damages.

No denying there aren't underlying issues in other parts of Nigeria with ideological issues binding them. E.g I believe cultism is a simmering issue that could threaten the fabric of society and state if not curtailed and actors, sponsors, jailed before their cancer spreads.

That the North is mentioned often is just down to current dynamics and the level of funding deployed to shut down threats to almost no avail.

The NASCO revelation for example, should have been exposed and adequate actions taken.