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Lionel Messi V Lewandoski: Who Deserves Balon D'or 2021 Based On This Stats by Uptownerd: 6:41am On Oct 09, 2021
The battle for the Balon D'Or is on as the final shortlist has been released. The main contenders at this point is Lionel Messi and Robert Lewandoski.

Looking at the stats below, who do you think will it?

Re: Lionel Messi V Lewandoski: Who Deserves Balon D'or 2021 Based On This Stats by Bigredmachine: 6:42am On Oct 09, 2021
Lewy

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Re: Lionel Messi V Lewandoski: Who Deserves Balon D'or 2021 Based On This Stats by thesicilian: 6:43am On Oct 09, 2021
If Messi is even in the top 3 for this year's ballon d'Or, I'll stop watching football.

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Re: Lionel Messi V Lewandoski: Who Deserves Balon D'or 2021 Based On This Stats by Kilishihunter: 6:53am On Oct 09, 2021
2020: Lewy the Terminator
2021: OluwaMessi
If e dey pain you, go use dried pepper as shaving cream for ya tool

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Re: Lionel Messi V Lewandoski: Who Deserves Balon D'or 2021 Based On This Stats by haffaze777(m): 7:00am On Oct 09, 2021
2020 lewan

²021 dosky

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Re: Lionel Messi V Lewandoski: Who Deserves Balon D'or 2021 Based On This Stats by rottennaija(m): 7:07am On Oct 09, 2021
thesicilian:
If Messi is even in the top 3 for this year's ballon d'Or, I'll stop watching football.
you will likely do

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Re: Lionel Messi V Lewandoski: Who Deserves Balon D'or 2021 Based On This Stats by paulolee(m): 7:10am On Oct 09, 2021
two awards are given out this year....one for 2020 n the other for 2021..
u no expect Lewi to win for both years na...if lewi was a favorite dis year, no need for giving two awards....na simple logic na

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Re: Lionel Messi V Lewandoski: Who Deserves Balon D'or 2021 Based On This Stats by paulolee(m): 7:12am On Oct 09, 2021
thesicilian:
If Messi is even in the top 3 for this year's ballon d'Or, I'll stop watching football.
u said so last two years about vvd n messi still won...
messi had same individual club performance with lewi last season, lewi flopped in euros n messi won d copa n is d favorite for the award..
if cr7 make top 5, I fit vex for uefa

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Re: Lionel Messi V Lewandoski: Who Deserves Balon D'or 2021 Based On This Stats by OJEEMAH(m): 8:06am On Oct 09, 2021
As a team Barcelona fumbled but individually Messi was on top of his game with the highest goal contribution (Goals + Assists) in Europe.

He was miles ahead of every player in La liga last season but unfortunately, they finished third in the league and the Best Player Award was given to Oblak......well deserved!

Messi didn't just deliver Copa America with outstanding performances but was Best Player, Highest Goal Scorer and Assist Provider

when you combine his performance for both club and country, you will discover only Lewandoski can match his toe a little but Copa America victory and performance puts Messi ahead in the race.

All Ronaldo lapdogs are trying to do is discredit Messi and then claim, he didn't deserve it but I just thank God say una no dey vote.

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Re: Lionel Messi V Lewandoski: Who Deserves Balon D'or 2021 Based On This Stats by Maxmilliano111: 8:15am On Oct 09, 2021
paulolee:

u said so last two years about vvd n messi still won...
messi had same individual club performance with lewi last season, lewi flopped in euros n messi won d copa n is d favorite for the award..
if cr7 make top 5, I fit vex for uefa

If it's based on accolades, jorgihno won the uefa champions league , won the euros trophy, already won the uefa player of the year, bruh don't you think he deserves this shit grin
Re: Lionel Messi V Lewandoski: Who Deserves Balon D'or 2021 Based On This Stats by 12large1: 8:21am On Oct 09, 2021
paulolee:
two awards are given out this year....one for 2020 n the other for 2021..
u no expect Lewi to win for both years na...if lewi was a favorite dis year, no need for giving two awards....na simple logic na

If messi wins any of the 2, then there’s corruption in fifa

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Re: Lionel Messi V Lewandoski: Who Deserves Balon D'or 2021 Based On This Stats by OJEEMAH(m): 8:37am On Oct 09, 2021
12large1:


If messi wins any of the 2, then there’s corruption in fifa
una dey always look for who to blame. Wetin concern FIFA with Balon D'or?
Re: Lionel Messi V Lewandoski: Who Deserves Balon D'or 2021 Based On This Stats by Kingcalls: 2:23pm On Oct 09, 2021
Lewandowski outrightly deserves it... they gave it to Messi in 2019 because he won the European golden boot and la liga according to them ... Now Lewandowski won the European golden boot and bundesliga... he should get it also... whats good for the goose is also good for the other goose ...they can't be shifting goal post to be favoring Messi yearly .... in 2019, copa was played , but they dint consider it when they awarded it to Messi...so they should also not consider the Euros when giving it to Lewandowski....

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Re: Lionel Messi V Lewandoski: Who Deserves Balon D'or 2021 Based On This Stats by Jirehrealestate: 3:25pm On Oct 09, 2021
Lewy is a full-time striker. He's job is to outscore everyone. Messi, a midfielder/winger shouldn't be rivaling Lewy on goals but outrun in Assists.

Messi clinched Copa Del Rey for club and Copa America trophy for country, and that's enough.

Lewy has more goals.
Messi has more assists.

2020 ballon d'or belongs to Lewy
2021 ballon d'or belongs to MESSI

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Re: Lionel Messi V Lewandoski: Who Deserves Balon D'or 2021 Based On This Stats by paulolee(m): 5:16pm On Oct 09, 2021
12large1:


If messi wins any of the 2, then there’s corruption in fifa
no b lie...wen ribery won all trophies with bayern n cr7 won d ballon d or after dt season without winning a trophy, corruption bin no dey dt wan..

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Re: Lionel Messi V Lewandoski: Who Deserves Balon D'or 2021 Based On This Stats by oyatainer(m): 8:20am On Oct 10, 2021
Maxmilliano111:


If it's based on accolades, jorgihno won the uefa champions league , won the euros trophy, already won the uefa player of the year, bruh don't you think he deserves this shit grin

Don't you understand the meaning of individual performance. What had Jorjinho done when placed beside the likes of Xavi Iniesta,Ramos and other in term of team success?

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Re: Lionel Messi V Lewandoski: Who Deserves Balon D'or 2021 Based On This Stats by oyatainer(m): 8:47am On Oct 10, 2021
Kingcalls:
Lewandowski outrightly deserves it... they gave it to Messi in 2019 because he won the European golden boot and la liga according to them ... Now Lewandowski won the European golden boot and bundesliga... he should get it also... whats good for the goose is also good for the other goose ...they can't be shifting goal post to be favoring Messi yearly .... in 2019, copa was played , but they dint consider it when they awarded it to Messi...so they should also not consider the Euros when giving it to Lewandowski....

No one talks about Messi when he is not close. Stop being bitter about someone success. Go to any football site and type balloon for favorites and see whose odd always high
Re: Lionel Messi V Lewandoski: Who Deserves Balon D'or 2021 Based On This Stats by Uptownerd: 4:29pm On Oct 10, 2021
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Re: Lionel Messi V Lewandoski: Who Deserves Balon D'or 2021 Based On This Stats by kcnwaigbo: 7:13pm On Oct 10, 2021
Jorginho will win the award
Re: Lionel Messi V Lewandoski: Who Deserves Balon D'or 2021 Based On This Stats by kcnwaigbo: 7:15pm On Oct 10, 2021
Best player on the planet.If I may add, the Ballon dor is the award for the best player not best striker.Judging by goal and assists alone is balderdash

Re: Lionel Messi V Lewandoski: Who Deserves Balon D'or 2021 Based On This Stats by ominilongest(m): 7:43pm On Oct 10, 2021
Awon weyrey ti bere
100 chance created
20000 dribble
100 toro beaten
Most goals with 2 opp players on the ground
Make una go sit down
If dem no give lewy or lewa or lewandoski
Dem go give Robert lewy



Ps
No forget to add h2h too
And the 8-2 abi na 8-1 or 8-0
D scores plenty I don forget
Na messi go fit remember

Weyrey dey disguise
E wan use soccer league cup with d'or
Super league cup abi na Copa cup
Abi na the ball wey hit upright pole e go pick up lewy jare

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Re: Lionel Messi V Lewandoski: Who Deserves Balon D'or 2021 Based On This Stats by ojaysam25(m): 9:50pm On Oct 10, 2021
I thought france cancel last year balor d hor because their league was brought to a halt due to covid19. why the change of mind, i smell Something fishy.

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Re: Lionel Messi V Lewandoski: Who Deserves Balon D'or 2021 Based On This Stats by ThierryJay: 10:09pm On Oct 10, 2021
While Lewy had a good year individually, Messi also had a good year individually and capped it up with a stellar performance for Argentina to win the Copa tournament, while Lewy only won the dame Bundesliga Bayern had been winning for the past 6 years or so.

Both players did not make any outstanding mark at the UCL, so the Copa win gives Messi the edge over Lewy in 2021 Ballon dor race as it carries more weight above the Bundesliga.

Jorginho has just been lucky to be part of 2 winning teams in the same year. Without him, both teams would still have won their trophies. He is not even the top 5 best player in Chelsea or Italy let alone Europe or the world.

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Re: Lionel Messi V Lewandoski: Who Deserves Balon D'or 2021 Based On This Stats by Kingcalls: 7:17am On Oct 11, 2021
Messi in 2021:
50 g/a
R16 champions league
3rd in the league Copa America winner
Favorite to win ballon d'or

Alexis Sanchez in 2016
48 g/a
R16 champions league
2nd in league
Copa America winner
Not in top 30 nominees
The fact that Messi is even in the conversation is unbelievable. His stats are great, but let's be real, nobody believed he was going to win after the season ended. He's only in the conversation because of his Copa America win

He wasn't influential in any of the big games he played last season...real madrid, atletico, Juventus, psg, Brazil in the final, Colombia in the semi final...so he should get it for scoring penalties in the champions league, scoring Eibar, levante , zaragoza, betis Ecuador and Bolivia...its not just about his goals , who did he score those goals and what did it win them??

They want to use Messi to spoil this award... when modric won it in 2018 did he have the best goals and assists?? Just cos they dint want Ronaldo to overtake Messi... the following year, they reversed it to goals and assists to favour messi... this time around, I wan know the ojoro them wan use , cos Lewandowski has the highest goals and assists, while Jorginho has the trophies

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Re: Lionel Messi V Lewandoski: Who Deserves Balon D'or 2021 Based On This Stats by Equity15(m): 12:55pm On Oct 11, 2021
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Re: Lionel Messi V Lewandoski: Who Deserves Balon D'or 2021 Based On This Stats by do4luv14(m): 1:43pm On Oct 11, 2021
Jirehrealestate:
Lewy is a full-time striker. He's job is to outscore everyone. Messi, a midfielder/winger shouldn't be rivaling Lewy on goals but outrun in Assists.

Messi clinched Copa Del Rey for club and Copa America trophy for country, and that's enough.

Lewy has more goals.
Messi has more assists.

2020 ballon d'or belongs to Lewy
2021 ballon d'or belongs to MESSI





and what had Messi done this year to deserve 2021 tittle

those titles should be between Jorginho and Lawy,

anything Messi is a big time Robbery,

he should not even be listed sef
Re: Lionel Messi V Lewandoski: Who Deserves Balon D'or 2021 Based On This Stats by Prinxzona10: 1:52pm On Oct 11, 2021
I've been reading some messages about all these Ronaldo and Messi's debate here for many years buh I just decided to spare some time out to address it once and for all...it might be long buh it worth reading.there's nohow you can like football and dislike Ronaldo or Messi except you ain't no football lover.you may have your preference between them buh it shouldn't make you to dislike(hate) the other buh what I read here all the time is hate towards the choice rival and it sucks and makes me wanna puke honestly..why would you be hating on someone that knows nothing about your existence?why would you be fighting one another about someone that doesn't know you?the person you fights here is 95% likely to help you tomorrow while the person you're fighting for here is unlikely even on the 0.00000001%.this is the truth and nothing buh the truth of all this Ronaldo and Messi debate and I wouldn't fight or argue with anybody about that because I'm(was)a professional footballer,on the sideline since because of some serious injuries(village people).. The truth is that both are good buh Messi always have this likable and favourable advantage ahead of Ronaldo and I will explain more better for you.the truth is that they had made some cheating cases for Ronaldo and Messi to won the award buh Messi was in higher side of the cheating,via twice on his side while Ronaldo was once buh he(Ronaldo) was also cheated on,which I presumed to be a balanced scenario now.so in 2010,sneidjer won triple cups in Italy,including the Champion's league and went to the world cup and took a 2nd position even also with a joint highest goalscorer (5),Iniesta and Xavi won the LA liga,won the world cup and all these three players were exceptional on their best that season buh at the end of the day,they awarded the balon d'or to Messi and even if I so much love Messi,I believed that it was a very big injustice towards those three....In 2013,Ribery and Arjen Robben were exceptional,especially Ribery buh they prolonged the voting patterns and system to favour Ronaldo,simple because Messi had won it 4 consecutive times and they feel like they would compensate Ronaldo because even all those years Messi have been winning it,Ronaldo was still on fire..Then in 2018,Ronaldo was likely to win it buh because Modric got to the world cup final,they gave it to Modric and in 2019,Van vigil dyke was also supposed to win it buh they gave it to Messi again,so here we are in 2021,the favour have shifted to Messi again buh people don't ask questions especially when your favourite happens to be in a more better position to win it.....I will pinpoint some vital things you guys have to read,assimilate, digest and come in conclusion about without been bias,angry,frustrated and jilted about it because it's simple the truth whether you accept it or not........Firstly,If they would bypass Sneidjer,Iniesta and Xavi after winning everything with their individual contributions and gave it to Messi,what makes you think that the voting system wasn't rigged then?.(Guess Individual and Clubs and Countries performances,had eluded some Messi's fans here huh?)..........Secondly,If they would postponed or prolonged the voting in 2013 to favour Ronaldo to the detriment of Ribery after his individual performances then,what also makes you think that the system wasn't rigged?.(Guess the Club performances had eluded some Ronaldo's fans here huh?).............Another great question for the lovers of the game especially some Messi's fans..... Would you have accepted Modric's award and not've opposed to it,if Messi would've won the Champion's league,had the highest goals,went to the same world cup and scored 4 goals,via that the highest goalscorer scored 6 goals(Harry Kane)?because even that year individually,Ronaldo was very far ahead of him(Modric)..Guess individual performances had eluded some Messi's fans here also huh?..(respect to Modric because he also tried buh never upto Sneidjer,Xavi and Iniesta then in 2010 when Messi won it)..........In 2019,Vigil van dyke did exceptionally well and since it happens to be an individual award,he supposed likely to've won it then buh they gave it to Messi,citing goals and individual performances buh in football,we have position and division of labour and everybody have to perform his own credibly nice and vigil van dyke did his own because you don't expect a defender to defend and also score goals or assist goals for you(even though no law prohibite such in football)...Guess club performances was excluded here also huh?........The truth is that when someone likes you,he or she sees no bad in you and when arguing football here,don't argue with a fanatical fan because their mind have been programmed to love their own and dislike(hate) the other....some people make case against lewandoski,via that he's a striker and was meant to be scoring goals while Messi is meant to be giving assists and this same fan came up with this when somebody told him that lewandoski got more goals ahead of Messi,since the fans uses his(Messi's) goals to rate him ahead of others......Another thing I found amusing was when Ronaldo went to Man Utd and scored 4 goals in his first three appearances and I still saw some people hating on the dude buh when Messi scored his first Champion's league goal,everywhere was on fire and the bragging started and I ask myself this question,what if reverse happens to be the case,via Ronaldo never scored and Messi scored 4 goals in his 3 first appearances eeh?..Your guess is as good as mine!!!!......Look,they don't know me or my existence and I can never be arguing or fighting my fellow guy because of them buh the truth is that I love Messi and I also love Ronaldo because they have achieved what would take another century to achieve in football....Ronaldo is the best and Messi is also the best buh sentiment aside,the award always favours Messi.Logically and individually,it should be between Ronaldo and Messi buh this award is yearly,via your performance for a year buh so many people use to bring up past performances of both guys especially some Messi's fans and it doesn't make any sense because we had already known that Ronaldo and Messi are the greatest in their generation buh the award is not a generational award buh an award for a yearly performance of which I believe that without been bias,I don't think both if them deserve it this year except you wanna keep telling yourself lies to make yourself happy.....(Well,using an Individual performances in 2020),then 2020 is for Lewandoski because of his club performances and an individual performances buh in 2021,using an individual performances again,Lewandoski still deserve it buh using a country or club performances, then Joginho deserves it buh the truth of the whole thing is that,they would likely screw everything to Messi's favour and finally,he's likely to win the 2021 Balon d'or and if you're still doubting me,ask yourself while they decided to give the one if 2020 because they wouldn't wanna see people drag them in the mud for neglecting Lewandoski,hence the reason they decided to give it(2020) this year to compensate him while making way for Messi for 2021 Balon d'or....I humbly greet everybody and lovers of the game buh make sure you stops fighting your brothers and sisters here because of those people that doesn't give a dime about yaa all...I salute you all..I came in peace and I'm also leaving in peace....gracias!!!!..
Re: Lionel Messi V Lewandoski: Who Deserves Balon D'or 2021 Based On This Stats by Jirehrealestate: 2:22pm On Oct 11, 2021
do4luv14:





and what had Messi done this year to deserve 2021 tittle

those titles should be between Jorginho and Lawy,

anything Messi is a big time Robbery,

he should not even be listed sef

Well, we are all entitled to our opinions.

At the bolded. Messi won the Copa America, and Copa Del Rey with greater assists and great goal ratio considering his position in the field.

Lewy, a cool-cat whom was my best player in the Euro 2020 wholly deserves the 2020 ballon d'or but for 2021, it would be contested.
Re: Lionel Messi V Lewandoski: Who Deserves Balon D'or 2021 Based On This Stats by do4luv14(m): 2:35pm On Oct 11, 2021
Jirehrealestate:


Well, we are all entitled to our opinions.

At the bolded. Messi won the Copa America, and Copa Del Rey with greater assists and great goal ratio considering his position in the field.

Lewy, a cool-cat whom was my best player in the Euro 2020 wholly deserves the 2020 ballon d'or but for 2021, it would be contested.



For 2021 it should not be,

it's Jorginho that owns 2021, no two way about it,

the Champions League and Euro this year are both bigger than copa, and del Rey

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