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| Islamophobia by AntiChristian(op): 9:45am On Oct 15, 2021 |
Bashir Lucas Samson Lukman wrote: Medically, consistent intake of Alcohol is harmful to the body but when a Muslim says it, he becomes a fanatic. "Smokers are liable to die young " is clearly written on cigarette packs but when a Muslim preaches against it, he becomes an extremist. The Bible calls Jesus servant of God in Matthew 12:18, Acts 3:13 and 26. But when a Muslims calla him a servant of God he becomes an anti-Christ. The Arabic word ألله Allah is used to refer to the creator in the Arabic Bible (also Hausa Bible) and Arab Christians (also some Hausa Christians) use it but when Muslims call the creator Allah, the creator becomes an idol and moon god ( أعوذ بالله من الشيطان الرجيم). So, when I say 3+3 is not =6 but 5+1=6 so far it is about misunderstanding Islam, this is a very simple explanation. Bashir Lucas Samson Lukman Benjamin Adebisi replied: "Islamophobia is an established phenomenon. You didn't put, when a guy keeps beard, he is a beard gang and hippie but when a Muslim keeps beards, he is Osama Bin Laden and a Terrorist. Muslims bare persecuted really and that's the fact. They label Sharia 'Wrong' because it forbids Alcohol sales and Pornography, which are Multibillion industries in the West, so what do you expect? Simple truth is that you're disturbing their Business. I am a Christian and I know these." Lucas Bashir concludes: "...and the refutation of Islamophobes continues..." |
| Re: Islamophobia by thesicilian: 10:19am On Oct 15, 2021 |
Having a legitimate fear of something is not a phobia. Nobody hates Islam because they're against pornography, or even alcoholism, you know fully well is because of the well documented incidents of religious extremism and terrorism. |
| Re: Islamophobia by AntiChristian(op): 10:25am On Oct 15, 2021 |
thesicilian:So what is it? |
| Re: Islamophobia by sagenaija: 10:50am On Oct 15, 2021 |
AntiChristian:Are you saying that you can't see it from what he wrote up there? Are you having knowingnessphobia? |
| Re: Islamophobia by peggywebbs(f): 2:00pm On Oct 15, 2021 |
Yes, no fear it's all peace. This happened all within 24hours. Dozens of people have been killed and more than 50 wounded after multiple bomb blasts hit a mosque in southern Afghanistan today. Three explosions rocked the Fatemieh mosque in Kandahar, the largest Shiite place of worship in the city, during Friday prayers - with witnesses saying one blast hit the main entrance and another hit an area where worshippers wash themselves. Qari Sayed Khosti (Taliban Interior Ministry Spokesman) Disturbing video: https://twitter.com/SmritiS24856750/status/1448951040309481473?t=JKM8z2-iyKYlpskHPRKlXQ&s=19 https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2021/10/15/explosion-hits-shia-mosque-in-afghanistans-kandahar Around 100 footballers were evacuated from Afghanistan to Doha on Thursday, including female players. Qatar's government worked with Fifa, football's world governing body, to co-ordinate the rescue effort, according to a source close to the operation https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/58920686 AntiChristian: |
| Re: Islamophobia by SSIPON(m): 2:12pm On Oct 15, 2021 |
peggywebbs:All religions are not needed in the 21st century. It's high time people grew up and let go. |
| Re: Islamophobia by SSIPON(m): 2:16pm On Oct 15, 2021 |
AntiChristian:Uhm, this is really stupid. Here's how. Places like Kano banned mannequins even though mannequins do not affect them in anyway. Hisbah placed a ban on alcoholic drinks even among non-muslims. Let's not forget the case of the barber who was arrested for giving "un-islamic" hairstyles to his clients. People do not label sharia wrong because it forbids alcohol/pornography. Christianity does that too. People label shari'a wrong because it violates basic human rights and it's just downright religious extremism. For example take that Kano law that forbids a man and a woman from being together at night. In short I'm tired, this meme summarizes it all
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| Re: Islamophobia by AntiChristian(op): 8:16am On Oct 16, 2021 |
SSIPON:Yeah, it should be stupid to one who is stupid! I never mentioned Kano or Hisbah! My Post is a general one and never specific. Whatever is happening in Kano can't be used to judge all states using that law. They are right some times and wrong at some other times as Shar'eeah can't be practiced adequately subject to another constitution. And where you lie is that Christianity forbid Alcohol/ Pornography! No Bible verse forbids Alcohol. Even many Bible verse promotes it. Infact, Christianity is the main source of most of the fornication, alcoholism, gambling, extortion, LGBT, etc And if you think religion is not needed then we shouldn't have terrorist who were of no known religion! Your way is your way! The Shariah law is a law in Nigeria similar to other laws. You are a culprit if you disregard it and you are caught. |
| Re: Islamophobia by AntiChristian(op): 8:23am On Oct 16, 2021 |
peggywebbs:So you mean Afghanistan killed them all but subtly allowed Qatar to airlift them without stopping them too? Probably this is done by Christians or Jews from USA to blackmail Afghanistan. Except if you have the names of the bombers and evidences that they did it. And what about Israel the Jewish country of Jesus killing Palestinians? Bring footage too from their O hypocrite! |
| Re: Islamophobia by Ototuz: 8:24am On Oct 16, 2021 |
AntiChristian:Hello, what the actual Bleep. Have you actually grabbed a Bible? Christianity forbids being gay Christianity forbids alcohol. Christianity forbids gambling. Christianity forbids adultery. What are you talking about. Show me a Bible verse that supports LGBT rights, I'll wait. Muslims say that Shari'a law supercedes the law of the land or the constitution. That's why they can execute someone for blasphemy even though blasphemy laws should not be a thing in a secular society. |
| Re: Islamophobia by AntiChristian(op): 8:28am On Oct 16, 2021 |
Ototuz:1. Nigeria is not a secular society. It is Multi-religious. 2. No! I need not bring evidence for you. You should give me verses where Christianity ie (Jesus himself) forbids all those things! |
| Re: Islamophobia by AntiChristian(op): 8:32am On Oct 16, 2021 |
thesicilian:If the extremism and terrorism of Muslims incidents are documented, then that of Yahweh, Moses and Joshua too are well documented in your Bible. We keep bringing this for you to see but you won't call them terrorists like you do Muslims. Why Sagenaija? Are you all hypocrites? |
| Re: Islamophobia by Ototuz: 8:34am On Oct 16, 2021 |
AntiChristian:I'm not even religious. Christianity is an amalgamation of The religion of paul and the religion of Jesus. You are the one that made the claim that The Bible supports gay rights, so the burden of proof is on you. Because everywhere in the Bible where gay people are mentioned both in the old and new testaments, the Bible was actively forbidding it. So Mr. AntiChristian, you say that Christianity is in support of it, so bring out the Bible verse to support your claim. You know, when I opened this post, I actually felt bad for you Muslims and how the world treats y'all, but after reading thru and seeing your responses and posts, I'm sorry I must say, if all Muslims are like you, then islamophobia is valid. Because from your posts you seem like someone who won't hesitate to pick up a knife and stab someone for the sake of your religion. Don't quote me again, I'm done with scums like you. |
| Re: Islamophobia by Ototuz: 8:37am On Oct 16, 2021 |
AntiChristian:You act as if Islam is not the main reason why Child marriage is still a thing. Nigeria is supposed to be secular society, if you like deny it. Go and learn the dictionary meaning of the word, "secular". You act as if Islam is this perfect religion, whereas, it is more responsible for human rights violations than Christianity. I can see you are just a teenager who loves fantasising about the 72 virgins He will get when He dies and go to heaven. Don't quote me again, I am done with scum like you. |
| Re: Islamophobia by AntiChristian(op): 8:46am On Oct 16, 2021 |
Ototuz:I never mad mention of "the Bible supports..." I said Christianity supports.... and by that I mean Jesus never go against all those thing till he left! Nothing concern me with Paul or others! You know, when I opened this post, I actually felt bad for you Muslims and how the world treats y'all, but after reading thru and seeing your responses and posts, I'm sorry I must say, if all Muslims are like you, then islamophobia is valid.Your opinion is valid. Christians should be more afraid of Yahweh in the old testament than Islam. But hypocrisy is the watchword! Because from your posts you seem like someone who won't hesitate to pick up a knife and stab someone for the sake of your religion.I will keep quoting you till you stop. I am not a scum. Look for the scum around you. And killing is forbidden to us... So why will you think i'll pick a knife and kill? |
| Re: Islamophobia by AntiChristian(op): 8:51am On Oct 16, 2021 |
Ototuz:Na only Muslims marry early? Ask your great grand what age they married. If Nigeria is a secular society, yet if enjoins freedom of religion and gives religious holidays. I'd say Yahweh exhibited more humans rights violation in the old testament than any book! On the contrary, I am not a teenager. I am the head of a family with kids. If i fantasise about virgins in heaven, didn't the sons of your God too leave heaven in Genesis 6:6 to sleep with beautiful ladies on earth? |
| Re: Islamophobia by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:55am On Oct 16, 2021 |
AntiChristian:Politics is the problem. Muslims are trained to fully participate in the political affairs of their community so it becomes a difficulty for an average Muslim to strike a balance between faith and politics, though both are on parallel lines! ![]() |
| Re: Islamophobia by peggywebbs(f): 9:14am On Oct 16, 2021 |
Blackmail? So you're claiming Sunnah Muslims didn't attack Shia? Like they do in Pakistan, Iran, Northern Nigeria and other extremist Muslim parts. Your saying that bokoharam, iswap, al qaeda, Isis, and their counterparts are also a blackmail? You have just justified your islamophobia. Even you terrorise your fellow Muslims. If you can't live in peace with them, is it possible to live with others with far different beliefs? Why bring Israel in the matter? Do I look like an Israelite? Are we talking about Israel or islamophobia? In my conclusion you are a terrorist if you choose to deny all this wrongs. (Full stop) AntiChristian: |
| Re: Islamophobia by enilove(m): 9:20am On Oct 16, 2021 |
AntiChristian:Stop painting Islam good. Its atrocities abound in your books and the pages of newspapers globally. WIKIPEDIA EXTRACT : Casualties of the September 11 attacks During the September 11 attacks in 2001 2,977 people were killed, 19 hijackers committed murder–suicide, and more than 6,000 others were injured.[1][2] Of the 2,996 total deaths (including the terrorists), 2,763 were in the World Trade Center and the surrounding area, 189 were at the Pentagon,[3][4] and 44 were in Pennsylvania. These deaths included 265 on the four planes. The attacks remain the deadliest terrorist act in world history.[5] |
| Re: Islamophobia by Ototuz: 9:47am On Oct 16, 2021 |
AntiChristian:Did you miss the part where I said I am irreligious? |
| Re: Islamophobia by Ototuz: 9:55am On Oct 16, 2021 |
AntiChristian:Hello,why don't you Muslims want to abolish child marriage even though it has adverse effects on the child involved? Christians in the past were involved in Child marriage, but today it is condemned and frowned upon, compared to you Muslims that actively encourage it. You even encourage cousins to get married to each other. Disgusting!! Oh and by the way, I am not Christian. I am just watching the way you are disgracing your lineage online and pointing out your hypocrisy. You don't want to world to be islamophobic, yet you don't want to devolve certain blatantly barbaric beliefs like Christianity has. That's why you are insecure about your religion, that's why you support laws that ban apostasy because you know that your religion cannot stand criticism. That is why you support execution of people that criticize your religion in the name of "blasphemy". That's why you invented the word, "islamophobia". You want the world to accept shari'a but even your demented self knows that shari'a laws do not align with the constitution in most countries. You are in support of publicly beating women who engage in premarital sex, meanwhile the constitution of the land does not forbid premarital sex. Yet you want your shari'a to be accepted. Christians have their problems too. But y'all Moslems are worse, tbh Crawl back to your hole and don't quote me again if you have nothing meaningful to say. |
| Re: Islamophobia by sagenaija: 3:02pm On Oct 16, 2021 |
AntiChristian: Islam speaks from both sides of the mouth. We are talking about what has been going on between Mohamed's time and today in the 21st century. You are taking us back in time to over 3,000years. Yahweh gave reasons for Moses and Joshua to do what they did. Today, the Christian is not under their system. We are under Christ and he stands for peace. Mohamed fought unprovoked battles. He raided caravans to acquire wealth and fund his army for more and more conquests. Moslems still do the same today in the name of Allah. No Christian today can point to anywhere in the Bible to justify his killing of another in the name of Jesus Christ. But there are portions after portions in the Koran that preach not only what will today be termed HATE SPEECH but outright contention against those who are not Moslems, just simply for the fact that they are not Moslems. Nothing in Christianity comes close to that. Islam hates a race - the Jews. Islam hates other religions, calling for their subjugation or complete elimination. It is there in her books for all to see. So, people's reactions to Islam are LEGITIMATE, like someone already pointed out to you. While Islam is allowed free reign in the Western world for instance and its followers get involved in politics, just to show one instance, no Islamic majority nation will allow known Jews or Christians to participate in political leadership beyond certain levels if at all. It is Islam therefore that is INTOLERANT of others yet it has used PROPAGANDA to convince the world that it is the hated and oppressed when in reality the opposite is the case. |
| Re: Islamophobia by haekymbahd(m): 4:36pm On Oct 16, 2021 |
sagenaija:What about the killings of the early church (crusades) was that also 3,000years ago. Is that what Christ taught you to lie. The Catholics the face of christianity at the time of Muhammad who compiled the bible themselves were intolerant and were terrorizing the world.. who knows if they were the ones that wrote the bible because the authors are anonymous maybe that's why they are not following the teaching of Jesus, Maybe Jesus didn't preach love who knows they just want to capture the gullible minds Why were the early church [Catholics] killing unbelievers? The.Hate.U.Give |
| Re: Islamophobia by sagenaija: 6:06pm On Oct 16, 2021 |
haekymbahd: Islam speaks from both sides of the the mouth. I am not saying that a Christian cannot kill. What I'm saying is that: No Christian today can point to anywhere in the Bible to justify his killing of another in the name of Jesus Christ. On the other hand, a Moslems can murder someone and claim that the person blasphemed against Mohamed or against Islam and justify it from Islamic books, not just Islamic history. Islamic books have hate speech toward others. Islamic books have inciting words against others. So, we are not just talking about actions of individual followers of Islam. We are saying that the books of Islam encourage and even instigate or provoke its adherents to engage in violence. Somebody draws Mohamed's cartoons and people are killed. And the killers can say they are doing it in the name of Allah or in defence of Islam. A Moslem can murder and claim that he is doing it in the name of Allah according to so and so portion of the Koran or so and so book. He can even refer the example of Mohamed in the same circumstances. No Christian can do same and refer to Jesus Christ OR HIS TEACHINGS as a reference point under any circumstance to justify such. |
| Re: Islamophobia by AntiChristian(op): 3:44pm On Oct 17, 2021 |
enilove:You people perish because you lack knowledge. That bombing was an insider job. Go and make your research well. Holy spirit don lead you to nonsense lie! For the start type on Google truth about the September 11 2001 bombing. |
| Re: Islamophobia by TenQ: 3:56pm On Oct 17, 2021 |
AntiChristian:Islamophobia isn't any you have listed above. Islamophobia is: 1. The fear of suicide bomber in the name of allah 2. The fear of taqiyya when muslims say "Islam is peace" or when muslims say "there is no compulsion in religion" 3. The fear of forced sharia implementation on non-muslims when moslems have some political power 4. When rights of non-muslims become non-existent simply because muslims are in charge 5. When violence become normal when it is done against non true muslims Anyone who is wise will FEAR Islam and the People of Islam! |
| Re: Islamophobia by parkervero(m): 4:46pm On Oct 17, 2021 |
AntiChristian:Did the quran forbid alcohol? Any reference ? |
| Re: Islamophobia by AntiChristian(op): 11:18am On Oct 18, 2021 |
parkervero:O you who believe! Intoxicants (all kinds of alcoholic drinks), gambling, AlAnsab, and AlAzlam (arrows for seeking luck or decision) are an abomination of Shaitan's (Satan) handiwork. So avoid (strictly all) that (abomination) in order that you may be successful. Qur'an 5:90 |
| Re: Islamophobia by AntiChristian(op): 11:24am On Oct 18, 2021 |
TenQ:Exactly, this is one of biggest folly around with a biased mind. 1. I have never seen or heard any suicide bomber around Lagos to Ogun despite millions of Muslims which includes many Northern tribes living here. 2. I think my 1 above still prooves Islam is peace in Lagos, Ogun, Oyo, etc and no one forces anyone in those places. 3. No Shariah in those places too and likewise for your 4 and 5. |
| Re: Islamophobia by AntiChristian(op): 11:38am On Oct 18, 2021 |
Ototuz:Abeg what's your business in our affairs and how does it affects you? You want freedom and our laws does not affect you. Does your freedom entitles you to change our laws? Child marriage is permissible and remains so under the relevant condition applicable to it. And cousin marriage is permissible and as well disliked. Oh and by the way, I am not Christian. I am just watching the way you are disgracing your lineage online and pointing out your hypocrisy.Since you are neither Muslim or Christian, why speak for Christians as their apologists? Are you being taught in your lineage to chook mouth in other's affairs? It is evident your lineage are busybodies that interferes in what does not concerns them!! You don't want to world to be islamophobic, yet you don't want to devolve certain blatantly barbaric beliefs like Christianity has. That's why you are insecure about your religion, that's why you support laws that ban apostasy because you know that your religion cannot stand criticism. That is why you support execution of people that criticize your religion in the name of "blasphemy". That's why you invented the word, "islamophobia".Islam is not based on Christianity or your own whims and caprices! Whatever the west brought would be swallowed hook line and sinker by the nincompoops! Apostacy law is applicable in an Islamic state. You don't act contrary to the state laws in any state. How can someone fight the constitution in Nigeria? You want the world to accept shari'a but even your demented self knows that shari'a laws do not align with the constitution in most countries. You are in support of publicly beating women who engage in premarital sex, meanwhile the constitution of the land does not forbid premarital sex. Yet you want your shari'a to be accepted.I don't know who your parents are but it's sure they did a whack job bring you up. Only a demented soul use such languages you use here. Premarital sex is condemnable under shariah laws and the culprits are to be punished in an Islamic state not subjected to any other laws. And saying all Muslims are worse without testing them all show your level of prejudice and Islamophobia. |
| Re: Islamophobia by AntiChristian(op): 11:39am On Oct 18, 2021 |
Ototuz:So wetin concern you in a religious post/comment? |
| Re: Islamophobia by AntiChristian(op): 11:49am On Oct 18, 2021 |
peggywebbs:Waoh! This is just like saying Catholics once eliminated other christian denominations in the famous crusades that happened years ago! Do you have coincise evidence that Sunni Muslims bombed the Shia in this case or na holy Spirit send you the info as usual? Boko haram, etc kill Muslims and Christians as they bombed Mosques and Churches! Moreover, claiming one is a Christian does not mean one is truly a Christian. Bur anyone is a Muslim so far as s/he has a Muslim name or claims to be one. They way you people thing ehn na just like Holy Spirit! |
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