₦airaland Forum

Toks2008:
Exactly. There should be serious consequences starting from men who patronize hotels filled with underage girls to the senators using religion as a cover and to randy men who prey on helpless underage girls.

The only saving grace and this is a rare one is when the girl in question lies about her age and she is kind enough to say it in the court that indeed she lied to you...then you can have the affirmative defense but not if the lady don’t actually appear to the jury as someone about whom a reasonable mistake might be made.


Say for instance a lady is very sexually mature in looks and she lied to you that she is 18 when she is actually younger, if you can prove that she lied and she truly looks way more mature sexually then you just might get lucky.

The law actually says it makes no difference wether she lied or not. The only leniency is in age difference - say, you are 20 and she is 17, you'll still taste jail though.

FreeIgboho:
The law actually says it makes no difference wether she lied or not. The only leniency is in age difference - say, you are 20 and she is 17, you'll still taste jail though.

I am not doubting what the law states but In some countries and some states in U.S, defendants can raise a defence to statutory rape based on a reasonable mistake as to a partner's age but usually only in limited circumstances.

Do you think the justice system is that draconian so much that they will just send someone to jail when it is proved that the victim lied about her age either verbal or perhaps forgery of age certificate?

Even in Baba ijesha's case, with a sound lawyer he will walk free. They only need to leverage on the lacuna in the local law in Nigeria that has the discrepancies of age of consent to be 11 or 18 cos the girl is 14 at the moment and the present Law in Nigeria didn't expressly provide that the age of consent in Nigeria is 18, ..

They will also need to prove that there was no force and the girl actually consented or let me use the English some olodos like Sterope and Pataricatering will process easily...that she approved of whatever was done to her by baba ijesha without any force used which could change the narrative.

A smart Lawyer will do the magic for him.

vannessa7:
All their findings were about the past, he didn't rape her now, both psychological evaluation and medical report confirmed he raped her 7years ago.

Haaaaaa| Abeg post the link to this info you just gave. See the justice system don't work on sentiments or emotions but Evidence and a compelling one at that so biko forget the talks of 7years and lets dwell on the video evidence.

Toks2008:
I am not doubting what the law states but In some countries and some states in U.S, defendants can raise a defence to statutory rape based on a reasonable mistake as to a partner's age but usually only in limited circumstances.

Do you think the justice system is that draconian so much that they will just send someone to jail when it is proved that the victim lied about her age either verbal or perhaps forgery of age certificate?

Even in Baba ijesha's case, with a sound lawyer he will walk free. They only need to leverage on the lacuna in the local law in Nigeria that has the discrepancies of age of consent to be 11 or 18 cos the girl is 14 at the moment and the present Law in Nigeria didn't expressly provide that the age of consent in Nigeria is 18, ..

They will also need to prove that there was no force and the girl actually consented or let me use the English some olodos like Sterope and Pataricatering will process easily...that she approved of whatever was done to her by baba ijesha without any force used which could change the narrative.

A smart Lawyer will do the magic for him.

@bolded see below.
You are mistaken about the law in Nigeria. It actually says it is 18 nevermind the mention of below 11. But beyond that, in Lagos State it is clearly unambiguously 18.

I'm not sure if you know he also allegedly molested her at 7

Finally, Baba Ijesha straight to ewon

Toks2008:
Haaaaaa| Abeg post the link to this info you just gave. See the justice system don't work on sentiments or emotions but Evidence and a compelling one at that so biko forget the talks of 7years and lets dwell on the video evidence.

You are mistaken. Justice system also works on eye witness testimony - and people are routinely convicted based solely on that

Kondomatic:
They're military terminologies used to communicate the position of the enemy.


Your front is 12 o'clock
Your back is 6 o'clock.
Your right is 3 o'clock
Your left is 9 o'clock

Round the clock, ie from 1 to 12 are all positions.

I hope this helps.



I don't know where the doctor was viewing from so I can't tell where is 3 o'clock or 6 o'clock in this one

Thanks bro!

FreeIgboho:
You are mistaken. Justice system also works on eye witness testimony - and people are routinely convicted based solely on that

There is no eye witness account of the molestation when she was 7 so let's focus on the video evidence presented when she is 14.

FreeIgboho:
@bolded see below.
You are mistaken about the law in Nigeria. It actually says it is 18 nevermind the mention of below 11. But beyond that, in Lagos State it is clearly unambiguously 18.

I'm not sure if you know he also allegedly molested her at 7

If you meticulously go tru my post you will see where I stated clearly that some states have a defence against error of age. Texas is just a state in U.S and what you quoted is about Texas but we are not in Texas, this is Naija so we need to apply the laws here.

Further more, you are still mistaken AGE OF CONSENT according to the Federal constitution which reigns supreme over state laws.

Until 2015 the age of consent in Nigeria was 18. Now it stands at 11 but as I wrote, there is a clause in the constitution that has been in contention and till this day, the lacuna still exists.

Don't get me wrong, I'm totally against the act but I'm just acting the Devils advocate now cos no matter how bad it is, his lawyers can't just let them sentence him without putting up a defence and if I'm his lawyer I will tell him to plead guilty as regards what happened in the video and not before that then we will argue the rest.

https://www.ageofconsent.net/world/nigeria

I always think outside the box.

Taiwoolaoluwa19:
Oga na set up..
CCTV for what in the living room..
Never see that in this life..
Perimeter is ok,..staircase area fine..corridor

What is your definition of set up? Was baba Ijesha hypnotized to do that or would he claim the girl seduce him when it was clear in the video he was the one that moved to the girl?

If you suspect they are stealing from your shop and you install cctv to capture the culprit, is that a set up?

Jalopee2008:
Babe listen and listen good,

I am human and when it comes to statutory rape, no man and i repeat, no man is a super hero so YES it can happen to me if i loose guard but we can only pray to GOD for self control.

You ladies can never understand the dynamics of sex in relation to a man's psyche.

Look at islam, do you think most of these high ranking Muslim clerics don't sleep with minors on a regular? Even the FG just filled in a charge against Kanu that he called Buhari a pedo so please don't even start with that...any man can fall, we can only pray for strong will.

Hello, tueh tueh. Adedoja Olaniyi Bah, is that you? 3 life and 76 years, are you calling? Mr. Oyinbogoju - you disguising?

Ok. We are watching in 5D. A minor a lady, and this? Okurrrrrr.

Sterope:
I actually didn't read this. Just a little prodding you are beginning to reveal your true self. Why am I not surprised?

Once there's a thread on sexual crimes committed by males, especially underage sex by much older men, be sure to see him playing devil's advocate posting his flawed logic and desperately in support of the sexual crime(s) by trying so hard to find laws that support the crimes he savors. He believes he is the mouth piece of male sex offenders. There's no sexual crime committed by a man that he won't use the cover of male logic to defend. This is someone who says he is old, yet the reasoning of gray hair is his enemy.

There was once a Lady filmed a guy masturbating near her, you need to see the defense he mounted in support of public masturbation. It was disgusting.

What is most worrisome is that there are people way stupider than him who give him likes.

Many of the people who make these rape apology /explanatory posts are sex offenders who see nothing wrong in what they have done and are doing.

Magnoliaa:
Hello, tueh tueh. Adedoja Olaniyi Bah, is that you? 3 life and 76 years, are you calling? Mr. Oyinbogoju - you disguising?

Ok. We are watching in 5D. A minor a lady, and this? Okurrrrrr.

Jalopee LMAO

It really could be. Guy is always in support of underage sex.

BRATISLAVA:
Jalopee LMAO

The moniker been dey always sound like car brand for my eyes ni. A tokunbo kind of car and model. Na why I change am to jalopee.

BRATISLAVA:
Jalopee LMAO

It really could be. Guy is always in support of underage sex.

Really could be, that he is an off*nder, abi? Let's be seeing. I dey always skip him posts and those of the rest of them like that. So I never notice his defensive comments sha.

His energy is just too ... yuck.

Magnoliaa:
The moniker been dey always sound like car brand for my eyes ni. A tokunbo kind of car. Na why I change am to jalopee.

Laughing out loud.

Jalopee. I don't think I'll refer to him by any other name. Excellent "synonym".

BRATISLAVA:
Laughing out loud.

Jalopee. I don't think I'll refer to him by any other name. Excellent "synonym".

Lol... you understand Yoruba, though?

AbujaCitiBlog:
Under cross examinations, all these circumstancial evidence will collapse completely.

E fit no better for your papa again for the rest of time

Magnoliaa:
Lol... you understand Yoruba, though?

Unfortunately not, but I heard it isn't very difficult to learn.

I know that tokunbo things are used items, a jalopy will likely be a tokunbo thing. Jalopee2008

Toks2008:
There is no eye witness account of the molestation when she was 7 so let's focus on the video evidence presented when she is 14.

You can't be sounding this obtuse. SHE IS THE WITNESS! I'd think you know that. If they find her credible he'd be convicted.

BRATISLAVA:
Unfortunately not, but I heard it isn't very difficult to learn.

I know that tokunbo things are used items, a jalopy will likely be a tokunbo thing. Jalopee2008

Awww. But nahhh, it's not hard at all. Yes. You're right. I love how you pieced that together.

A jalopy is a used and worn out car. Tokunbo is the generally Yoruba term... it can also be a name and can be shortened. So there!

Magnoliaa:
Awww. But nahhh, it's not hard at all. Yes. You're right. I love how you pieced that together.

A jalopy is a used and worn out car. Tokunbo is the generally Yoruba term... it can also be a name and can be shortened. So there!

What is the actual meaning of Tokunbo, though? I find it hard to believe anyone will name a child "jalopy". Does it mean second child, in reference to second-hand goods?

BRATISLAVA:


What is the actual meaning of Tokunbo, though? I find it hard to believe anyone will name a child "jalopy". Does it mean second child, in reference to second-hand goods?

Hmm. I wonder now too. I'm sure it'll have a social and cultural origin. It literally means ''a returnee from abroad.'' So maybe our parents then actually used it as some form of prestige phrase. He just came back from Yankee, fresh from London, etc., and then it turned to a proper name. That's the namely meaning.

Then the other meaning (which could be degrading as well) is the second-hand one and is used for things, objects...

Toks2008:
If you meticulously go tru my post you will see where I stated clearly that some states have a defence against error of age. Texas is just a state in U.S and what you quoted is about Texas but we are not in Texas, this is Naija so we need to apply the laws here.

Further more, you are still mistaken AGE OF CONSENT according to the Federal constitution which reigns supreme over state laws.

Until 2015 the age of consent in Nigeria was 18. Now it stands at 11 but as I wrote, there is a clause in the constitution that has been in contention and till this day, the lacuna still exists.

Don't get me wrong, I'm totally against the act but I'm just acting the Devils advocate now cos no matter how bad it is, his lawyers can't just let them sentence him without putting up a defence and if I'm his lawyer I will tell him to plead guilty as regards what happened in the video and not before that then we will argue the rest.

https://www.ageofconsent.net/world/nigeria

I always think outside the box.

And if you paid attention you'd have seen I made it clear I was referring to the bolded, where you said:
Do you think the justice system is that draconian so much that they will just send someone to jail when it is proved that the victim lied about her age either verbal or perhaps forgery of age certificate?
I showed you where the justice system is exactly that draconian.

As for age of consent, you are mistaken. See below.
I will find and post the letter of the law so you can read it for yourself.

FreeIgboho:
And if you paid attention you'd have seen I made it clear I was referring to the bolded, where you said:
Do you think the justice system is that draconian so much that they will just send someone to jail when it is proved that the victim lied about her age either verbal or perhaps forgery of age certificate?
I showed you where the justice system is exactly that draconian.

As for age of consent, you are mistaken. See below.
I will find and post the letter of the law so you can read it for yourself.

You are obviously reading my post to respond but not to understand. This is the lacuna I wrote about. A lacuna is series of argument as a result of an ommision or lack of clarity in a law or constitution.

Till date it is still unresolved and while some are arguing that the age of consent is 11, some are saying it is 18.

Please let's try to understand each other.

I rest my case on this matter... Let us see how it plays out.

toxco:
They sha want ruin this man life, it is well sha.

and the girl life wey the man ruin nko?

Corona22:
The healed lacerations connotes is that the lacerations found in the Instruments were not something that was recent my lord,”

I hope all these goats and closet peados like Fabiyi and other goats defending baba Ijesha and insulting Iyabo Ojo can shut up now.

How can you even be arguing the unarguable. Baba Ijesha wey them suppose tie , throw down from the top of a spaceship

as the lasa whet ever is of old

Now na baba ijesa do am be that


I laff in Swahili style

Two weeks ago a girl was found to be pregnant in my area
she drink sniper to kill her self but was safe
By timely intervention by the parents
When she was ask why she claims she was rape
Now the case of rape lead to arrest of five guys
On interrogation they confess that it was initiation that have not rape as allege by the girl
Ok scan or what ever was surjest
After the test
it will be shock to you that the pregnancy was few months old then the time the incident happen
Girl how come
She, it's a boy in my school
The boy was call he claims they have been doin it for a while
he no she go out with a guy to as well his not the only one doing it
After much talk and plead and biting
No one new exactly who own it



I have been careful to jump into conclusions since then

Corona22:
E fit no better for your papa again for the rest of time

You are cursed beyond measure for mentioning my late Father. May you never live to old age. Cursed fool

Yes the minor was defiled we know, but by who exactly? Can you actually prove that it was Baba ijesha that actually difiled her, that's the question, and if I was the lawyer to d defendant,that'll be my case. In the clip, he didn't penetrate, he only corrased, corrasing isn't what this case is about, it's about tj defilement. Mind you am not in support of what Baba Ijesha did, am only speaking from a rational point of view. The girl is a young girl that may have been bleeping since God knows when, so how do you prove it was done by him without any DNA evidence. If he's for a good lawyer he's walking out a free man.

The beast should be castrated with immediate effect and jailed.

Toks2008:
You are obviously reading my post to respond but not to understand. This is the lacuna I wrote about. A lacuna is series of argument as a result of an ommision or lack of clarity in a law or constitution.

Till date it is still unresolved and while some are arguing that the age of consent is 11, some are saying it is 18.

Please let's try to understand each other.

I rest my case on this matter... Let us see how it plays out.

My brother you are the one making easily disproved statements. First you said "Justice system can't be so draconian...", then you said there was no eyewitness.

As for age of consent, my brother the law is VERY CLEAR that AoC is 18. The courts are just pretending about lacuna. The law was passed in 2015. You can't find any prominent person or NGO since 2015 who says AoC is 11. There'd be outrage.
There is nothing there for a lawyer to interprete, unless they are just being mischievous.
I DARE ANY LAWYER TO INTERPRET THE BELOW TO MEAN AoC IS 11.
(Note that the constitution defines "child" as any one below 18)