caracas:

Oga you're not just joking you're a comedian
China is nothing in military terms, they know this and The US also knows this......
Little wonder America keeps ignoring them....
If them born China well, they should attack Taiwan n give The US the opportunity they've been looking for to destroy them completely.....

then, how come the existence of north korea ? It is even larger than the south.

chinese pushed the US army back to the south in 1950s. and at that time, chinese were eating tree roots and having no planes in the war field. they won the war in that condition.

and now ?

igbesachick:
1. india does not produce a lot, let alone to export a lot.

India is largest industrial producer after US, China, Japan and Germany in terms of cost and third largest after US and China in terms of production tonnage and one of fastest growing. It's exports exceed $400 billions, it's forex exceeds $600 billions (4th in world).

India produces luxury cars, space rockets, softwares, all types pharma and medicines, softwares, manufactured machines, weapons, components of weapons for western nations, ships, planes, satellites and a lot lot more of things which any country like Nigeria can't even dream of doing in next 50 years. Indian industries import raw petroleum from oil producing countries and export finished petroleum products all around world.

Indians also have great strides in nanotechnology, tokamak nuclear technology, biotechnology, quantum computing, super computing and 3D-printing and other fields of science & technology. No other 3rd world country comes even close.
This rocket is just one of millions of things which India produces and can only be superseded by advanced nations of Asia and western world. Not Africa by far

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhs9x3-O4zw

Tier 1 & tier 2 Indian cities have GDPs more than African countries. Even Mumbai is close to South Africa and Nigeria.
So no, India is a lot by any measures. India just compares and aim for bigger goals.

igbesachick:
if Is true, why india tries to boycott chinese profucts which occupies india market ?

Chinese products occupy market of entire world, not just India and Indian government wishes to change it. India is already second largest producer of electronics and steel after China and wants to replace them in global production chain. There are official targets of such things in Indian government circles.

And it is necessary that Indian brands invent things and Indian people use them before they are sold to entire world. This is how progressive countries work and this is how west & Japan became so rich and China & India are growing.

Despite being a behemoth country and producing cars, nukes, weapons, electronics, machines, softwares, medicines, vaccines, agricultural production and all, Indian government wants to make advanced electronics, semiconductors and complex machinery and export them all over to world to become more powerful. Every sensible government is doing it.

By your logic, most African countries are better since they don't boycott things. They even import things like table fans, bikes, cycles and refrigerators because they can't make them.
It means African governments are aimless.

igbesachick:
2 . india has 1.3 billion population. the cheap labor in Dubai consists of only 300.000 . no country can get wealthy by harvesting Its people's oversea remittance , not to say , those oversea indian are toilet cleaners, sewer salvagers and construction workers .

Middle east diaspora doesn't reflect Indian society. Indian government earns most of its income from internal taxes, government owned business and industries.

Indians are richest and most reputed community in western world occupying respectable jobs to even executives. Indians are richer than whites themselves in general there. They become CEOs of companies like Google.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income

Indians who are working as cleaners in middle-east are just losers of Indian dispora society which controls business and institutions from western world to African countries.

It is also a factor that economic development in India is real and Indians can earn enough to afford a visa to go outside country. Indians also have a much better image. Otherwise, Pakistanis and Afriacns are strip checked on airports due to just their passports.

igbesachick:
3. the poverty of india and nigeria both comes from lacking 1st and 2nd industries.

No. Poverty in Nigeria comes because it doesn't have any industry. Nigeria's agricultural sector is primitive and industry is backward, barely produces anything other than petroleum.

In China/India because they didn't manage second industry propely. Both China and India established second industries after independence. China's communist system killed millions and they chnagef in 1978 and started progress. India's socialist system made industries unproductive and India changed in 1991 and started progress.

The difference between China & India is because of this time period.

not the IT business , although china does that pretty well too , contributing tiktok , wechat , alibaba.....

IT sector is the most profitable business because you don't have to spend money earned on overhead things or permanent assets. It is also called an industry and important for every country.

In India's case, India didn't have any money. So, IT gave India some money to create industries.

igbesachick:

look at china , It has 2 thirds of people still bound to the ground , although their agricultural tech helps them improve the output greatly. and china succeeds as a world factory proves that, 2nd industry is the KING. not the IT business , although china does that pretty well too , contributing tiktok , wechat , alibaba.....

US, Europe and USSR all had huge industries but USSR failed.
Japan and South Korea were successful with industries from start.
China and India had some success but much later despite having industries from start.
Iran and North Korea aren't anywhere near success despite having industries.
No correct statement is.
No country can develop without creating heavy industries and capitalist economic system because heavy industries don't earn unless they have a deregulated economy. Technological experience and money earned from them helps to improve agricultural tech, create more advanced industries in fields like nuclear, nanotechnology and IT sector. The tertiary sector industries created further improves the performance of agriculture, industry and living standards of people. Companies of both second and third industries created in this process like Foster Wheeler, Airbus, Xiaomi, Cosco, Tata, L&T, Google, Microsoft and Infosys gives your country a powerful political leverage in world and [I]nairalanders give stupid speculations about your nation's success. [/I]

All industries are equally important. Second industry is needed first because it generates money to improve other industries. Soviet Union had huge industrial sector but failed. China created huge industries but it's millions starved under GLF and Cultural Revolution programs. They finally opened economy in 1978. India created industries and PSUs but remained poorest country for 40 years. India finally opened economy up in 1991. Meanwhile Japan & Korea remained open since start and became developed countries. Since economic system was capitalist.

NoFucksToGive:
More Chinese propaganda We know them.,. label a phone camera 128 mp yet in reality its just 13 mp camera, check all tecno phones

China will soon claim to have made the incredible hulk

If you pay them now to make this missle for your country, next thing they will give you one that runs on diesel and you have to change the spark plug

wetin concern tecno with this one

igbesachick:


wow, i still remember you. 1 year ago, you attacked china like china has killed your dad.

why switch so quickly ?

Really? And even If I did it is because I write from my experiences as someone who's been to China countless times. You know sometimes you undeniably sound like a typical 'wu mao'? My dad passed away a long time ago, so, please do not mention him. 谢谢!

igbesachick:


1. india does not produce a lot, let alone to export a lot. if Is true, why india tries to boycott chinese profucts which occupies india market ?

2 . india has 1.3 billion population. the cheap labor in Dubai consists of only 300.000 . no country can get wealthy by harvesting Its people's oversea remittance , not to say , those oversea indian are toilet cleaners, sewer salvagers and construction workers .

3. the poverty of india and nigeria both comes from lacking 1st and 2nd industries. look at china , It has 2 thirds of people still bound to the ground , although their agricultural tech helps them improve the output greatly. and china succeeds as a world factory proves that, 2nd industry is the KING. not the IT business , although china does that pretty well too , contributing tiktok , wechat , alibaba.....

Bro, never compare Nigeria achievements with India. Mind you I'm neither comparing India with China. The distance far.

Indian has more industrialised than Nigeria just that overpopulation and the few controlling their wealth like Nigeria. They are also practising caste systems just like the elites and almajiris in the North. Most educated are the kerelites and Punjabs. They also have massive illiteracy.

They have industries that virtually produce most things but it can cater for their large population that where China comes in. Now about China, they are investors in almost all countries around the world especially in ASIA AND AFRICA.

They have the Production powers to give you any products according to your price or choice. That's is why we have different good products and substandard ones all produced from China. It is your choice and spending power to bargain for good things.

UK and especially US rely on China for most of her products. Do research on this but the only issue is that USA hive the standard and control the type things than can enter their land. China is the largest producer of almost everything in the world today.

In a normal clime Nigeria supposed to be competing with like of her former colony and the likes of advance countries in Asia especially Uae and the likes.

Almost all ASIA giant countries are run by work force from Indian. Not just labourers but owners of hospitals, supermarkets and malls, logistics, haulage etc in UAE and other Asia country even in Nigeria and other African countries.

gbengu:


Bro, never compare Nigeria achievements with India. Mind you I'm neither comparing India with China. The distance far.

Indian has more industrialised than Nigeria just that overpopulation and the few controlling their wealth like Nigeria. They are also practising caste systems just like the elites and almajiris in the North. Most educated are the kerelites and Punjabs. They also have massive illiteracy.

They have industries that virtually produce most things but it can cater for their large population that where China comes in. Now about China, they are investors in almost all countries around the world especially in ASIA AND AFRICA.

They have the Production powers to give you any products according to your price or choice. That's is why we have different good products and substandard ones all produced from China. It is your choice and spending power to bargain for good things.

UK and especially US rely on China for most of her products. Do research on this but the only issue is that USA hive the standard and control the type things than can enter their land. China is the largest producer of almost everything in the world today.

In a normal clime Nigeria supposed to be competing with like of her former colony and the likes of advance countries in Asia especially Uae and the likes.

Almost all ASIA giant countries are run by work force from Indian. Not just labourers but owners of hospitals, supermarkets and malls, logistics, haulage etc in UAE and other Asia country even in Nigeria and other African countries.

indian toil as toilet cleaners and construction workers in UAE. they are not even house helps. those helps are from phillipines, because indian men are snelly and women are not submissive as filiponos . in UAE , indian have nothing to do with any HIGH business. the West and china exploit the oil. chinese also run the construction firms which recruit cheap indian security men . today, indian workers are ousted out and replaced by african workers.

indian in africa, mostly living in kenya and uganda. they are street vendors, at most shop owners. they were brought to there by the British colonists as coolies. i been to uganda, i saw indian treated like poo by the ugandan. they dont have political rights and they at best hire 1 or 2 local helpers in the store.

in nigeria, indian are pariah. once i saw a bunch of indian-african mix blood kids, i asked my nigerian friend who they are, he said, they are from niger ! even nigerian take indian to be inferior and refuse to admit the mix blood kids have any nigerian blood. BTW, i am not nigerian.

indian in china, and african in china, are both discriminated against. one is subtle , one is not that subtle. but they are grouped together. most exhibitions need african and indian to present invitation letter to enter and as to indians, they are strictly forbidden to snap photos or take away samples to copy . indian face difficult visa policy from china too, and they stay in the same community with african and pakistani in surburbs in china , where the landlords ask no questions and rent a subpar room to anyone.

indian in the West and america, are facing more racial barrier. they seem to take some CEO jobs, but , compared to their millions of immigrants, that is a small fraction.and i no hear Indian life matters compaign. no one gives a fig to them. and if indian so excellent to be CEOs, why not they open companies in their own motherland ? they are a bunch of few lucky guys who escape from a loser country. and whites know that, and what kind of respect the whites will confer to them ? at least , the blacks been integrating in america for a long time and been an integral part of america.

and , nigeria's GDP per capita is higher than india's. if you compare GDP , india is richer than France, pointless.

chukxie:


Really? And even If I did it is because I write from my experiences as someone who's been to China countless times. You know sometimes you undeniably sound like a typical 'wu mao'? My dad passed away a long time ago, so, please do not mention him. 谢谢!

countless ? as many times as an authentic chinese ? covid has changed your mind. after all, covid has done a good thing, It helps you rid of the west bullsheet propaganda.

Goel:

India is largest industrial producer after US, China, Japan and Germany in terms of cost and third largest after US and China in terms of production tonnage and one of fastest growing. It's exports exceed $400 billions, it's forex exceeds $600 billions (4th in world).

India produces luxury cars, space rockets, softwares, all types pharma and medicines, softwares, manufactured machines, weapons, components of weapons for western nations, ships, planes, satellites and a lot lot more of things which any country like Nigeria can't even dream of doing in next 50 years. Indian industries import raw petroleum from oil producing countries and export finished petroleum products all around world.

Indians also have great strides in nanotechnology, tokamak nuclear technology, biotechnology, quantum computing, super computing and 3D-printing and other fields of science & technology. No other 3rd world country comes even close.
This rocket is just one of millions of things which India produces and can only be superseded by advanced nations of Asia and western world. Not Africa by far

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhs9x3-O4zw

Tier 1 & tier 2 Indian cities have GDPs more than African countries. Even Mumbai is close to South Africa and Nigeria.
So no, India is a lot by any measures. India just compares and aim for bigger goals.

Chinese products occupy market of entire world, not just India and Indian government wishes to change it. India is already second largest producer of electronics and steel after China and wants to replace them in global production chain. There are official targets of such things in Indian government circles.

And it is necessary that Indian brands invent things and Indian people use them before they are sold to entire world. This is how progressive countries work and this is how west & Japan became so rich and China & India are growing.

Despite being a behemoth country and producing cars, nukes, weapons, electronics, machines, softwares, medicines, vaccines, agricultural production and all, Indian government wants to make advanced electronics, semiconductors and complex machinery and export them all over to world to become more powerful. Every sensible government is doing it.

By your logic, most African countries are better since they don't boycott things. They even import things like table fans, bikes, cycles and refrigerators because they can't make them.
It means African governments are aimless.

Middle east diaspora doesn't reflect Indian society. Indian government earns most of its income from internal taxes, government owned business and industries.

Indians are richest and most reputed community in western world occupying respectable jobs to even executives. Indians are richer than whites themselves in general there. They become CEOs of companies like Google.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income

Indians who are working as cleaners in middle-east are just losers of Indian dispora society which controls business and institutions from western world to African countries.

It is also a factor that economic development in India is real and Indians can earn enough to afford a visa to go outside country. Indians also have a much better image. Otherwise, Pakistanis and Afriacns are strip checked on airports due to just their passports.


No. Poverty in Nigeria comes because it doesn't have any industry. Nigeria's agricultural sector is primitive and industry is backward, barely produces anything other than petroleum.

In China/India because they didn't manage second industry propely. Both China and India established second industries after independence. China's communist system killed millions and they chnagef in 1978 and started progress. India's socialist system made industries unproductive and India changed in 1991 and started progress.

The difference between China & India is because of this time period.

IT sector is the most profitable business because you don't have to spend money earned on overhead things or permanent assets. It is also called an industry and important for every country.

In India's case, India didn't have any money. So, IT gave India some money to create industries.

US, Europe and USSR all had huge industries but USSR failed.
Japan and South Korea were successful with industries from start.
China and India had some success but much later despite having industries from start.
Iran and North Korea aren't anywhere near success despite having industries.
No correct statement is.
No country can develop without creating heavy industries and capitalist economic system because heavy industries don't earn unless they have a deregulated economy. Technological experience and money earned from them helps to improve agricultural tech, create more advanced industries in fields like nuclear, nanotechnology and IT sector. The tertiary sector industries created further improves the performance of agriculture, industry and living standards of people. Companies of both second and third industries created in this process like Foster Wheeler, Airbus, Xiaomi, Cosco, Tata, L&T, Google, Microsoft and Infosys gives your country a powerful political leverage in world and [I]nairalanders give stupid speculations about your nation's success. [/I]

All industries are equally important. Second industry is needed first because it generates money to improve other industries. Soviet Union had huge industrial sector but failed. China created huge industries but it's millions starved under GLF and Cultural Revolution programs. They finally opened economy in 1978. India created industries and PSUs but remained poorest country for 40 years. India finally opened economy up in 1991. Meanwhile Japan & Korea remained open since start and became developed countries. Since economic system was capitalist.

thanks for writing so long. i will take a leak before i get down to reply serious.

i am a chinese. are you a nigerian ? if yes, i dont judge you because personally i like nigeria and been there 3 times, although i do not agree with whatever you say about india. but if you are an indian , i will give you some lectures.


we chinese never hate india. we know each single indian jealous and hate us. but, we just take them as comedians. we 100% look down on them as immature kids.

Goel:

India is largest industrial producer after US, China, Japan and Germany in terms of cost and third largest after US and China in terms of production tonnage and one of fastest growing. It's exports exceed $400 billions, it's forex exceeds $600 billions (4th in world).

India produces luxury cars, space rockets, softwares, all types pharma and medicines, softwares, manufactured machines, weapons, components of weapons for western nations, ships, planes, satellites and a lot lot more of things which any country like Nigeria can't even dream of doing in next 50 years. Indian industries import raw petroleum from oil producing countries and export finished petroleum products all around world.

Indians also have great strides in nanotechnology, tokamak nuclear technology, biotechnology, quantum computing, super computing and 3D-printing and other fields of science & technology. No other 3rd world country comes even close.
This rocket is just one of millions of things which India produces and can only be superseded by advanced nations of Asia and western world. Not Africa by far

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhs9x3-O4zw

Tier 1 & tier 2 Indian cities have GDPs more than African countries. Even Mumbai is close to South Africa and Nigeria.
So no, India is a lot by any measures. India just compares and aim for bigger goals.

Chinese products occupy market of entire world, not just India and Indian government wishes to change it. India is already second largest producer of electronics and steel after China and wants to replace them in global production chain. There are official targets of such things in Indian government circles.

And it is necessary that Indian brands invent things and Indian people use them before they are sold to entire world. This is how progressive countries work and this is how west & Japan became so rich and China & India are growing.

Despite being a behemoth country and producing cars, nukes, weapons, electronics, machines, softwares, medicines, vaccines, agricultural production and all, Indian government wants to make advanced electronics, semiconductors and complex machinery and export them all over to world to become more powerful. Every sensible government is doing it.

By your logic, most African countries are better since they don't boycott things. They even import things like table fans, bikes, cycles and refrigerators because they can't make them.
It means African governments are aimless.

Middle east diaspora doesn't reflect Indian society. Indian government earns most of its income from internal taxes, government owned business and industries.

Indians are richest and most reputed community in western world occupying respectable jobs to even executives. Indians are richer than whites themselves in general there. They become CEOs of companies like Google.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income

Indians who are working as cleaners in middle-east are just losers of Indian dispora society which controls business and institutions from western world to African countries.

It is also a factor that economic development in India is real and Indians can earn enough to afford a visa to go outside country. Indians also have a much better image. Otherwise, Pakistanis and Afriacns are strip checked on airports due to just their passports.


No. Poverty in Nigeria comes because it doesn't have any industry. Nigeria's agricultural sector is primitive and industry is backward, barely produces anything other than petroleum.

In China/India because they didn't manage second industry propely. Both China and India established second industries after independence. China's communist system killed millions and they chnagef in 1978 and started progress. India's socialist system made industries unproductive and India changed in 1991 and started progress.

The difference between China & India is because of this time period.

IT sector is the most profitable business because you don't have to spend money earned on overhead things or permanent assets. It is also called an industry and important for every country.

In India's case, India didn't have any money. So, IT gave India some money to create industries.

US, Europe and USSR all had huge industries but USSR failed.
Japan and South Korea were successful with industries from start.
China and India had some success but much later despite having industries from start.
Iran and North Korea aren't anywhere near success despite having industries.
No correct statement is.
No country can develop without creating heavy industries and capitalist economic system because heavy industries don't earn unless they have a deregulated economy. Technological experience and money earned from them helps to improve agricultural tech, create more advanced industries in fields like nuclear, nanotechnology and IT sector. The tertiary sector industries created further improves the performance of agriculture, industry and living standards of people. Companies of both second and third industries created in this process like Foster Wheeler, Airbus, Xiaomi, Cosco, Tata, L&T, Google, Microsoft and Infosys gives your country a powerful political leverage in world and [I]nairalanders give stupid speculations about your nation's success. [/I]

All industries are equally important. Second industry is needed first because it generates money to improve other industries. Soviet Union had huge industrial sector but failed. China created huge industries but it's millions starved under GLF and Cultural Revolution programs. They finally opened economy in 1978. India created industries and PSUs but remained poorest country for 40 years. India finally opened economy up in 1991. Meanwhile Japan & Korea remained open since start and became developed countries. Since economic system was capitalist.

after reading your comment, i decide to give you a piece of my mind.

me, a chinese guy who have been to nigeria, india, and some south east asian countries, think the world order is like this :

1) West, incluidng countries with higher living standard and income than china , population 1200 million

2) chinese, 1400 million

3) russia and its close neighbors belarus and ukraine, 200million

4) latin america, 650million

5) worldwide muslim (not including those from south asia, southeast asia or africa) 1000million

6) southeast asia , 650million

7) south asia , 1800million

sub sahara africa, 1000million.

the first rank is the West with a 30 000 dollar average income per years. the second pack is china and russia with 10 000 dollars. the third is 4 to 6 groups with 4000 dollars. the final is india and africa with almost 2000 dollars. no hard feelings. truth is truth.

how come china take india serious
? the only thing comparable is the population. india should ask the third pack countries (with more than 100) whether they will allow it to surpass before it reaches china.

do you think it easy to surpass a country? after 43 years of economic reform, china has ONLY overtaken 37 countries, such as turkey, iran, phillipines ..... the situation of china is more or less the same as 200 years ago when the West destroyed the small mannaul mills of china by help of their machine mass production , and dominated the world since.

today, it is the chinese who use machines to destroy india and other unlucky late-comers.

chinese bosses shift their own factories and capitals to India, vietnam and even africa to exploit the profit. and since vietnam is closer to china, it is a better outsourcing place for chinese outdated industries which are heavily polluted, labor intense and lowly paid. i mean the vietnamese are happy to be the slaves for chinese , they receive shoe orders from chines designers and they produce in sweat factories owned by chinese and ship the goods back to china's market.

the same will happen to africa too if african workers are efficient and professionally skilled as vietnamese and the container shipment fee drops too. but now, mostly, It is the "chinese boss, african workers, african
consumers" mode in africa. they use the local labor and raw materials to process and sell back to you african . and take the profit away.

as to India, chinese use a combined way to exploit. 1) government project contracts which help india build metro, bullet trains, 2) african mode 3) vietnamese mode 4) monetary investment in the IT start-ups and india unicorns.


india is a big market, so it can buy its own products, the export is not as impprtant as vietnam. and if we chinese invest in India, we can just adopt the african mode. but not because the distance too far, the shipment fee too expensive that we have to sell locally.

all in all, today is not how the West bossess consider whether to "condescend" to china or india , to decide their fates.. today is the chinese bosses who decide india's fate. my nearby city , dongguan, a factory hub between GZ and HK , is half empty, with chinese factory bosses opening branches in vietnam and even nigeria. america is not even one of the Top 10 investors in vietnam. Its the chinese. and the former lowly paid chinese workers are nowadays "master" , "Mr." , "sir" in africa, vietnam and india, being taskmasters.

the relationship between china and india is not a rivalry. it is a master
and slave one in a modern day supply chain environ. and india , vietnam, and africa are actually bitter and fierce enemies which are hungry for the leftover meat given by china. but due to the false West brainwashing, and the self-narcotics, and patriotism , these areas fail to realize this and all blame china as an "unfair competitor" by using "cheaper" labors to make "cheaper" products, and they (especially india and vietnam) are even quite proud that they stand up to china and grab a big chunk of meat from china doled out by the West bosses. and india is even funny enough to talk about car making and nanotechnology competition with china ?

come on, a country can not survive without the 1st industry , agriculture. both america and china have invested a lot to this before they take up the second and third industry. india can NEVER solve their agruculture problem which is rooted in politics , religion. they need a Mao Ze Dong style liquidation to get rid of the landlord leeches and nationalise the land . india can not even build a bullet train in recent 20 years due to the expropriation of the private land while china has expanded its network from 0 to the largest in the world. and the farmer tax is another serious problem in india which china has already solved smoothly and now chinese farmers NO need to pay any tax.


and finally , look at the pride of india industries , medicine and IT business. 95% ingredients and 100% patents of india medicines are from china and the West respectively. india only provides lands and labors to make pills. they dont even buy them. they have no money, they ship back to the West. the covid vaccines are perfect examples. Pfizer owned factories from india refused to give india rights to use its vaccines, even though india begged. and what about 300 000 indian students in chinese medical colleges ? on youtube, their voices are loud since china still rejects their requrst for chinese visas out of india covid situatuon.


and the IT industry myth, a shenzhen city alone beats india's whole IT companies , with wechat, taobao,baidu headquaters. not to mention tiltok in BJ and alibaba in SH. and 30 000 indian programmers work in shenzhen , for money and chinese green cards.


no need to show me the ranking and figuers of china or india. 1962 is a watetshed. india started to hate china from that time, reinforced by their economic failure nowadays. after defeating in india in 1962, china has been the leader of the third world till now. there is no enough resources for 2 Powers both of billions of people. if china is one Power, india can NEVER be another. they know it. they hate china for this. 1962 is a symbolic reason to hate. china weaning its chance to be a Power is the real reason. india is despairing, but too coward to take any desperate actions, and they are lazy and stupid, they just daydream and talk big. a hopeless place full of jealousy and hatred . india is a disgrace of human .

igbesachick:



countless ? as many times as an authentic chinese ? covid has changed your mind. after all, covid has done a good thing, It helps you rid of the west bullsheet propaganda.

It's bullshit. I don't get what you're rambling about. So pointing out something(s) about China automatically makes me a western propagandist? You're truly a 'wu mao'. If you had taken time to go through my contributions here you'd have noticed something strikingly opposite to your assertion.

chukxie:


It's bullshit. I don't get what you're rambling about. So pointing out something(s) about China automatically makes me a western propagandist? You're truly a 'wu mao'. If you had taken time to go through my contributions here you'd have noticed something strikingly opposite to your assertion.

West media say , chinese are colonists in nigeria, supposedly your motherland, and those chinese are prisoners in china (sent by the CCP) .


well, if you guys are colonized by a bunch of prisoners, and toiling in their factories for a living, you are indeed pathetic.

west media also say many other things about china. but since i pressume you are an african, i specifically mention the relavent things .

and, my english is not good, you may see that . china , japan, thailand and nepal are the only 4 countries in asia which have never been colonized by any others. so, we dont worship any foreign languages. we are not you.


spend more time learning chinese, you may thank my advice later.

gpercuxionz:
When will Nigeria reach this level

End of days that time we will buy all this scrap as unwanted from US

igbesachick:


West media say , chinese are colonists in nigeria, supposedly your motherland, and those chinese are prisoners in china (sent by the CCP) .


well, if you guys are colonized by a bunch of prisoners, and toiling in their factories for a living, you are indeed pathetic.

west media also say many other things about china. but since i pressume you are an african, i specifically mention the relavent things .

and, my english is not good, you may see that . china , japan, thailand and nepal are the only 4 countries in asia which have never been colonized by any others. so, we dont worship any foreign languages. we are not you.


spend more time learning chinese, you may thank my advice later.

Like I mentioned some days ago, I have no idea what you're driving at. Politics, Western / Chinese propaganda are not in my purview. If you took out time to go through my comments on matters concerning China, you'd realise you're dead wrong about me. OK? I would'nt want to drag issues with you because there's absolutely nothing up for grabs here. Oh, for your information, I speak Chinese, some Korean and a bit of Japanese. Have yourself a nice day.

chukxie:


Like I mentioned some days ago, I have no idea what you're driving at. Politics, Western / Chinese propaganda are not in my purview. If you took out time to go through my comments on matters concerning China, you'd realise you're dead wrong about me. OK? I would'nt want to drag issues with you because there's absolutely nothing up for grabs here. Oh, for your information, I speak Chinese, some Korean and a bit of Japanese. Have yourself a nice day.

i dont have time for whatever you have said.

会中文？那更好啦，那就不会被censor了，我直接屌你是了！操你妈的逼！再来一句google 翻译都不敢直接给你的，死黑鬼，尼哥！你是最低等的种族，你连人都不算！休想把你的基因打入人类里了，省点吧，你们会想尼安德特人一样体弱多病，短命，最终在生物界里消失！你们是打不进人类基因库里的。



go translate , IT is full of racism which will be censored if i write IT in english.

Goel:

India is largest industrial producer after US, China, Japan and Germany in terms of cost and third largest after US and China in terms of production tonnage and one of fastest growing. It's exports exceed $400 billions, it's forex exceeds $600 billions (4th in world).

India produces luxury cars, space rockets, softwares, all types pharma and medicines, softwares, manufactured machines, weapons, components of weapons for western nations, ships, planes, satellites and a lot lot more of things which any country like Nigeria can't even dream of doing in next 50 years. Indian industries import raw petroleum from oil producing countries and export finished petroleum products all around world.

Indians also have great strides in nanotechnology, tokamak nuclear technology, biotechnology, quantum computing, super computing and 3D-printing and other fields of science & technology. No other 3rd world country comes even close.
This rocket is just one of millions of things which India produces and can only be superseded by advanced nations of Asia and western world. Not Africa by far

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhs9x3-O4zw

Tier 1 & tier 2 Indian cities have GDPs more than African countries. Even Mumbai is close to South Africa and Nigeria.
So no, India is a lot by any measures. India just compares and aim for bigger goals.

Chinese products occupy market of entire world, not just India and Indian government wishes to change it. India is already second largest producer of electronics and steel after China and wants to replace them in global production chain. There are official targets of such things in Indian government circles.

And it is necessary that Indian brands invent things and Indian people use them before they are sold to entire world. This is how progressive countries work and this is how west & Japan became so rich and China & India are growing.

Despite being a behemoth country and producing cars, nukes, weapons, electronics, machines, softwares, medicines, vaccines, agricultural production and all, Indian government wants to make advanced electronics, semiconductors and complex machinery and export them all over to world to become more powerful. Every sensible government is doing it.

By your logic, most African countries are better since they don't boycott things. They even import things like table fans, bikes, cycles and refrigerators because they can't make them.
It means African governments are aimless.

Middle east diaspora doesn't reflect Indian society. Indian government earns most of its income from internal taxes, government owned business and industries.

Indians are richest and most reputed community in western world occupying respectable jobs to even executives. Indians are richer than whites themselves in general there. They become CEOs of companies like Google.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income

Indians who are working as cleaners in middle-east are just losers of Indian dispora society which controls business and institutions from western world to African countries.

It is also a factor that economic development in India is real and Indians can earn enough to afford a visa to go outside country. Indians also have a much better image. Otherwise, Pakistanis and Afriacns are strip checked on airports due to just their passports.


No. Poverty in Nigeria comes because it doesn't have any industry. Nigeria's agricultural sector is primitive and industry is backward, barely produces anything other than petroleum.

In China/India because they didn't manage second industry propely. Both China and India established second industries after independence. China's communist system killed millions and they chnagef in 1978 and started progress. India's socialist system made industries unproductive and India changed in 1991 and started progress.

The difference between China & India is because of this time period.

IT sector is the most profitable business because you don't have to spend money earned on overhead things or permanent assets. It is also called an industry and important for every country.

In India's case, India didn't have any money. So, IT gave India some money to create industries.

US, Europe and USSR all had huge industries but USSR failed.
Japan and South Korea were successful with industries from start.
China and India had some success but much later despite having industries from start.
Iran and North Korea aren't anywhere near success despite having industries.
No correct statement is.
No country can develop without creating heavy industries and capitalist economic system because heavy industries don't earn unless they have a deregulated economy. Technological experience and money earned from them helps to improve agricultural tech, create more advanced industries in fields like nuclear, nanotechnology and IT sector. The tertiary sector industries created further improves the performance of agriculture, industry and living standards of people. Companies of both second and third industries created in this process like Foster Wheeler, Airbus, Xiaomi, Cosco, Tata, L&T, Google, Microsoft and Infosys gives your country a powerful political leverage in world and [I]nairalanders give stupid speculations about your nation's success. [/I]

All industries are equally important. Second industry is needed first because it generates money to improve other industries. Soviet Union had huge industrial sector but failed. China created huge industries but it's millions starved under GLF and Cultural Revolution programs. They finally opened economy in 1978. India created industries and PSUs but remained poorest country for 40 years. India finally opened economy up in 1991. Meanwhile Japan & Korea remained open since start and became developed countries. Since economic system was capitalist.

india is the son of UK for 250 years. enough time for india to pick up any crumbs of knowledge. but it only took 2 most trashy items, english and democracy.. this proves that, the gap between china n india is not time, it is IQ level.

tiktok owner has 10 billion dollar wealth, what about your pathetic CEO in google ? we chinese contribute Bosses, you india provides CEOs , which are employees too. a modern day butler.

dont you mock africa. your india GDP per capita is barely more than africa. but it still lags behind nigeria.

no oNE cares your whole country 's GDP, we care per capita. if GDP more important, why even a citizen in swirtzerland dare look down on china ? it is a condescending humor to you indian guys that we dont mention per capita. in china , we dont have West political correctness. we call a spade spade. we regard per capita as well as life expectation and worldwide university ranking.

you guys only live to 65 . and zero university among Top 100. stupid and weak .


go develop your proud IT industry. at least , in china, we take good care of our agriculture, and our 5G HIGH tech is applied to agriculture now. you indian are living in a dream. and we chinese are living the dream. big difference.

in china, we have a meme for India, 印度只有一亿人口. india has only 100 million human population( the rest are not humans) . of course , your few upper class study in the west and in china (mainly for medicines) and struggle to stay there .

there are 30 000 india programmers in shenzhen alone. how to stay and renew visas? go to HK and return, a quarterly visa rush. some lucky barstaeds marry a chinese person and his or her inferior india DNA into chinese race.


you serious dont know how we chinese treat you guys in china. due to lacking of money, indian, african and pakistani , all live in north of the railway station in guangzhou (the biggest first tier city for businessmen from undeveloped countries) . the russian stay in south of railway, the arabian muslim live in the hotels among chinese community. the westetners in pearl river new town. you and pakistani are at the bottom. who cares , you look the same.

we seldom sit beside an indian/pakistani in the bus. even old people stand . no indian films,no indian food, no indian products, you are a zero in china. we even have an african restaurant, in indian~pakistani~african community. but no indian food.

your rich (by india standard) businessmen are ignored and treated as thin air. in exhinition, such as canton fair,the biggrst one in china, indian are strictly forbidden to snap photos or take away samples. you indisn guys steal and copy our chinese designs. you pretend to buy.

you dont even realize your international image which is positively related to your country's wealth.

in HK and phollipines, you guys are faring worse. i have seen indian behave like an idiiot in HK before the richness . and the lonely and timid and awkward indian eating with his fingers in a remote table in a phollipine town, is my impresive memory . i just wonder why in reality, filipinos are more friendly to their internet enemy chinese than to their internet friend indian.

igbesachick:


i dont have time for whatever you have said.

会中文？那更好啦，那就不会被censor了，我直接屌你是了！操你妈的逼！再来一句google 翻译都不敢直接给你的，死黑鬼，尼哥！你是最低等的种族，你连人都不算！休想把你的基因打入人类里了，省点吧，你们会想尼安德特人一样体弱多病，短命，最终在生物界里消失！你们是打不进人类基因库里的。



go translate , IT is full of racism which will be censored if i write IT in english.

Your words:
Chinese? That's even better, then I won't be censor, I will be you! Bleep you! One more sentence Google Translate won't give you, nigger, Nigger nigger! You're the lowest race. You're not even human! Don't try to insert your genes into humans, save it, you'll be as sickly, short-lived, and extinct as neanderthals! You're not gonna get into the human genome bank.


You're obviously sick! You need help.
I'm not going to play dirty with you,SLOPE!
You say blacks aren't humans yet you live amongst them! You're a delusional 'wu mao' who's living in a fantasy bubble. I can curse the hell out of your miserable life in Mandarin but I won't because I'd hate to be compared to a yellow, mucous-secreting swine like you. Go and hang yourself since your life has gotten too unbearable for you. TMD 晚安!

gpercuxionz:
When will Nigeria reach this level

Not while anybosy alive now is still living. May be 4-5 generations to come am sure none of the clueless people we have as leaders will be around then.

Goel:



US, Europe and USSR all had huge industries but USSR failed.
Japan and South Korea were successful with industries from start.
China and India had some success but much later despite having industries from start.
Iran and North Korea aren't anywhere near success despite having industries.
No correct statement is.
No country can develop without creating heavy industries and capitalist economic system because heavy industries don't earn unless they have a deregulated economy. Technological experience and money earned from them helps to improve agricultural tech, create more advanced industries in fields like nuclear, nanotechnology and IT sector. The tertiary sector industries created further improves the performance of agriculture, industry and living standards of people. Companies of both second and third industries created in this process like Foster Wheeler, Airbus, Xiaomi, Cosco, Tata, L&T, Google, Microsoft and Infosys gives your country a powerful political leverage in world and [I]nairalanders give stupid speculations about your nation's success. [/I]

All industries are equally important. Second industry is needed first because it generates money to improve other industries. Soviet Union had huge industrial sector but failed. China created huge industries but it's millions starved under GLF and Cultural Revolution programs. They finally opened economy in 1978. India created industries and PSUs but remained poorest country for 40 years. India finally opened economy up in 1991. Meanwhile Japan & Korea remained open since start and became developed countries. Since economic system was capitalist.

dummy boi. i mean, we chinese farmers have private lands, free and equally divided , given to the new farmers ' babies, by the CCP.

in you india, land is in the hands of a few landlords' hands. that is why even your government fails to commandeer the land to build bullet train .

we chinese farmers pay zero tax to CCP. you indian farmers protest for over one year for the tax stuff. of course you dont care. they are not IT elites.

pathetic indian !

a robust agriculture means a strong body, a strong industry means a big dick, IT business as third industry is the brain. can you imagine a freaak , weak like a bean pole, having a flaccid tiny thing, with a "smart" head? dont tell me that is indian in olympixz


you can do nothing with a weak agriculture. japan and america are two countries with best agricultral technology . china is catching up. now we have more then 100 or even 150 different vegetables and fruits for sale in wet markets or online. can you indian do this ? hard to imagine a Huawei staff will work like a tiger in the technology battlefield, eating only rice and a few curry chickens.

Goel:

India is largest industrial producer after US, China, Japan and Germany in terms of cost and third largest after US and China in terms of production tonnage and one of fastest growing. It's exports exceed $400 billions, it's forex exceeds $600 billions (4th in world).

India produces luxury cars, space rockets, softwares, all types pharma and medicines, softwares, manufactured machines, weapons, components of weapons for western nations, ships, planes, satellites and a lot lot more of things which any country like Nigeria can't even dream of doing in next 50 years. Indian industries import raw petroleum from oil producing countries and export finished petroleum products all around world.

Indians also have great strides in nanotechnology, tokamak nuclear technology, biotechnology, quantum computing, super computing and 3D-printing and other fields of science & technology. No other 3rd world country comes even close.
This rocket is just one of millions of things which India produces and can only be superseded by advanced nations of Asia and western world. Not Africa by far

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhs9x3-O4zw

Tier 1 & tier 2 Indian cities have GDPs more than African countries. Even Mumbai is close to South Africa and Nigeria.
So no, India is a lot by any measures. India just compares and aim for bigger goals.

Chinese products occupy market of entire world, not just India and Indian government wishes to change it. India is already second largest producer of electronics and steel after China and wants to replace them in global production chain. There are official targets of such things in Indian government circles.

And it is necessary that Indian brands invent things and Indian people use them before they are sold to entire world. This is how progressive countries work and this is how west & Japan became so rich and China & India are growing.

Despite being a behemoth country and producing cars, nukes, weapons, electronics, machines, softwares, medicines, vaccines, agricultural production and all, Indian government wants to make advanced electronics, semiconductors and complex machinery and export them all over to world to become more powerful. Every sensible government is doing it.

By your logic, most African countries are better since they don't boycott things. They even import things like table fans, bikes, cycles and refrigerators because they can't make them.
It means African governments are aimless.

Middle east diaspora doesn't reflect Indian society. Indian government earns most of its income from internal taxes, government owned business and industries.

Indians are richest and most reputed community in western world occupying respectable jobs to even executives. Indians are richer than whites themselves in general there. They become CEOs of companies like Google.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income

Indians who are working as cleaners in middle-east are just losers of Indian dispora society which controls business and institutions from western world to African countries.

It is also a factor that economic development in India is real and Indians can earn enough to afford a visa to go outside country. Indians also have a much better image. Otherwise, Pakistanis and Afriacns are strip checked on airports due to just their passports.


No. Poverty in Nigeria comes because it doesn't have any industry. Nigeria's agricultural sector is primitive and industry is backward, barely produces anything other than petroleum.

In China/India because they didn't manage second industry propely. Both China and India established second industries after independence. China's communist system killed millions and they chnagef in 1978 and started progress. India's socialist system made industries unproductive and India changed in 1991 and started progress.

The difference between China & India is because of this time period.

IT sector is the most profitable business because you don't have to spend money earned on overhead things or permanent assets. It is also called an industry and important for every country.

In India's case, India didn't have any money. So, IT gave India some money to create industries.

US, Europe and USSR all had huge industries but USSR failed.
Japan and South Korea were successful with industries from start.
China and India had some success but much later despite having industries from start.
Iran and North Korea aren't anywhere near success despite having industries.
No correct statement is.
No country can develop without creating heavy industries and capitalist economic system because heavy industries don't earn unless they have a deregulated economy. Technological experience and money earned from them helps to improve agricultural tech, create more advanced industries in fields like nuclear, nanotechnology and IT sector. The tertiary sector industries created further improves the performance of agriculture, industry and living standards of people. Companies of both second and third industries created in this process like Foster Wheeler, Airbus, Xiaomi, Cosco, Tata, L&T, Google, Microsoft and Infosys gives your country a powerful political leverage in world and [I]nairalanders give stupid speculations about your nation's success. [/I]

All industries are equally important. Second industry is needed first because it generates money to improve other industries. Soviet Union had huge industrial sector but failed. China created huge industries but it's millions starved under GLF and Cultural Revolution programs. They finally opened economy in 1978. India created industries and PSUs but remained poorest country for 40 years. India finally opened economy up in 1991. Meanwhile Japan & Korea remained open since start and became developed countries. Since economic system was capitalist.

why china attacked india in 1962?

let me tell you a short story for long.

skorea developed country with industries? china a developing country?

60 percent of skorea economics is contributed by Hydai and Samsung and their ''son companies''. these two companies hire about 3 million direct and indirect employees. do you know how much salary the REST of skorean earn?

it is typical indian and korean are calling each other "brothers". so many affinities shown on youtube and twitter.

both you india and skorea are two dogs of america. of course, you two come close. and india with 1.4 billion population looks to korea as a "successful example ".

the indian logic is, india is equal to china . korea is more successful than india. so, the undertone is clear, china is the most inferor in east asia. whatever, we chinese dont care your indian's opinions.

let us get down to analyze Skorea, a successful developed country.

1, Hyndai indeed is a car manufacture with almost the same status of world class brands, such as toyota, honda, ford, volvo, piguet, builck, audi...etc. but one thing is clear, the most crucial part of a car, is the motor. Hyndai motor is either imported from REAL car manufacture countries, such as german, japan
and US, or using the inferior korean demostic motors. it is the same as china's phones heavilu rely on america chips ( and its outsourcing taiwan chip Factories). that is why Huawei phones hardly compete with apple.

2, samsung phones. i know nothing of this company. samsung was kicked out of china 10 years ago by the chinese consumers, after 3 successive phone blast cases. when we chinese say boycott, we mean it. anyway, one thing is clear. samsung is also using american chips. and samsung is NOT a 5G solution supplier, it is not Huawei, it is just a phone company.

3, since korea is such a small country, 3 million guys hired by these two companies are enough to raise the GDP per capita to a demi developed country level. just like vietnam, 68 percent new factories are invested by the chinese bosses. this is a small fraction of the outbound FDI of china, but a large crumb for vietnam. and you rrtarted even look to vietnam as a teacher who "steals " orders from china. actually, we chinese would rather invest
in vietnam or even africa than in india . let korea trapped in the india mires of investment snare.

BTW, do you know why we chinese attacked india in 1962? go ask korean, they know it best. korean have suffered 5 times of genocide scale invasions from china in history.

china has been through hundreds of political turmoils in history, with princes, farmer leaders, generals leading coups. korea, as a vassal state , always sent armies to serve the ruling party of china. usually, korea won the gamble and got rewarded. but sometimes, a farmer leader indeed overthrew the emperor, and korea was punished to a hair's breadth from death.

and, in korea's 2000 years history, it has been a part of china or broken into several kingdoms, for 1400 years. it is useless to pity their nowdays situation as a separate ppl.

and, after 1949, a new farmer leader ascended the throne, china needed a war, a punch bag to vent the pent up energy and hatred accumulated during the 100 year humiliation. this time, this farmer leader, called Mao, with his new dynasty , called communist ppl's china, chose india as a punch bag!

finally, i need you to know, it is not just GDP that makes a country a developed one. gulf countries are richer than west europe. korea's GDP per capita is 36000 dollars, japan is only 39000. but, by the world hierarchy, japan , besides china and america, is the suzerainty and master of korea.

BTW, in east asian, we can hardly tell apart of a chinese and japanese by the faces. but everyone can smell out a korean, by their ugly eyes and cheekbones. as easy as we can smell out an indian among a bunch of arabs.