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When People Say That The Bible Was A Weapon In The Hands Of Colonialists by Authority1o1(m): 11:17am On Oct 23, 2021
When People Say That The Bible Was A Weapon In The Hands Of Colonialists, what do they mean?

You may have made the assertion that Christianity is/was a religion used by the Whites, the imperial Europe in this regard, to abbett colonialism in Africa.

I have a lot in view, but what does that mean to You?
Re: When People Say That The Bible Was A Weapon In The Hands Of Colonialists by lomprico(m): 12:04pm On Oct 23, 2021
it was used as a weapon
Re: When People Say That The Bible Was A Weapon In The Hands Of Colonialists by Dtruthspeaker: 3:51pm On Oct 23, 2021
lomprico:
it was used as a weapon

Everything was used as a weapon by those Invading Sons of evil.
Re: When People Say That The Bible Was A Weapon In The Hands Of Colonialists by DappaD: 9:37pm On Oct 23, 2021
Authority1o1:
When People Say That The Bible Was A Weapon In The Hands Of Colonialists, what do they mean?
You may have made the assertion that Christianity is/was a religion used by the Whites, the imperial Europe in this regard, to abbett colonialism in Africa.
I have a lot in view, but what does that mean to You?

Jesus prophesied that after the death of his apostles, impostors would overrun the congregation and they wouldn’t treat the flock kindly(which indeed occurred after the first century) Matthew 13:24-30, see also Acts 20:29-30, 2Peter 2:1
These set of persons brought in all sorts of apostate teachings and practices of demons (1Timothy 4:1) e.g. Trinity, Christmas, hellfire and so on.

In the hands of the weeds(these false Christians), the Bible was used as a tool for domination and colonialism. In the hands of the wheats(true Christians), the Bible today is being used properly as a tool for building up a person’s life! Hebrews 4:12, 2Timothy 3:16-17

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Re: When People Say That The Bible Was A Weapon In The Hands Of Colonialists by Authority1o1(m): 6:46am On Oct 24, 2021
DappaD:


Jesus prophesied that after the death of his apostles, impostors would overrun the congregation and they wouldn’t treat the flock kindly(which indeed occurred after the first century) Matthew 13:24-30, see also Acts 20:29-30, 2Peter 2:1
These set of persons brought in all sorts of apostate teachings and practices of demons (1Timothy 4:1) e.g. Trinity, Christmas, hellfire and so on.

In the hands of the weeds(these false Christians), the Bible was used as a tool for domination and colonialism. In the hands of the wheats(true Christians), the Bible today is being used properly as a tool for building up a person’s life! Hebrews 4:12, 2Timothy 3:16-17

I deduce that you refer to an already-written bible of an already-established religion. At least, if I'm correct, you understand that in contrast to what many believe, neither Christianity nor the Bible were formulated by Whites to help them subdue Africa.

It's very sickening to keep on coming across the "White-man-religion" and "Bible-was-written-by-Whites-for-the-purpose-of-mental-subduction-of-their-colonies" mantras.

Or do you align with the thought?

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Re: When People Say That The Bible Was A Weapon In The Hands Of Colonialists by Authority1o1(m): 6:51am On Oct 24, 2021
lomprico:
it was used as a weapon

Can you be more lucid, please?
Re: When People Say That The Bible Was A Weapon In The Hands Of Colonialists by paltielx: 12:22pm On Oct 24, 2021
lomprico:
it was used as a weapon
It wasn't, to me fulfillment in Bible prophecies and it's accuracy when in touches scientific matters even science didn't discover them proves it that the Bible was and is never a weapon
Re: When People Say That The Bible Was A Weapon In The Hands Of Colonialists by ikechukz(m): 12:27pm On Oct 24, 2021
Dtruthspeaker:


Everything was used as a weapon by those Invading Sons of evil.
If not for the "sons of evil", you might still be running around in sack clothes today.
Re: When People Say That The Bible Was A Weapon In The Hands Of Colonialists by lomprico(m): 12:28pm On Oct 24, 2021
paltielx:
It wasn't, to me fulfillment in Bible prophecies and it's accuracy when in touches scientific matters even science didn't discover them proves it that the Bible was and is never a weapon

Read or research about the history of spread of christianity, you will see.

I'm not saying the bible is evil, it's that some people used/use it for committing evil.
Re: When People Say That The Bible Was A Weapon In The Hands Of Colonialists by Dtruthspeaker: 12:32pm On Oct 24, 2021
ikechukz:
If not for the "sons of evil", you might still be running around in sack clothes today.

And be very happy, eating healthy meals to my fill, sleeping safely in my own House, having my family all around, working because it is cool and resting because it is too hot to work.

And in the evening, after a full belly, playing until tired of play.

Life was very very much better than today.

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Re: When People Say That The Bible Was A Weapon In The Hands Of Colonialists by paltielx: 12:36pm On Oct 24, 2021
lomprico:


Read or research about the history of spread of christianity, you will see.

I'm not saying the bible is evil, it's that some people used/use it for committing evil.
If the European can overcome the so call weapon of the Bible and enjoys technological advancements, what prevents the African from doing the same. To me the problem with us is that, illiteracy and greed prevent us from speaking the truth in the Bible
Re: When People Say That The Bible Was A Weapon In The Hands Of Colonialists by lomprico(m): 12:44pm On Oct 24, 2021
paltielx:
If the European can overcome the so call weapon of the Bible and enjoys technological advancements, what prevents the African from doing the same. To me the problem with us is that, illiteracy and greed prevent us from speaking the truth in the Bible

No, it's not like that. they know that they were using it to conquer, enslave and brainwash and they achieved that.
the case of Africa is inferiority complex and greed.
Re: When People Say That The Bible Was A Weapon In The Hands Of Colonialists by paltielx: 12:51pm On Oct 24, 2021
lomprico:


No, it's not like that. they know that they were using it to conquer, enslave and brainwash and they achieved that.
the case of Africa is inferiority complex and greed.
Well whatever I don't see the Bible as a weapon, the truth in it as mentioned in John 8:32 set people like me from enslavement of demonic believe and culture, deceptions by religious leaders, and even the knowledge as to what we are doing in the earth today
Re: When People Say That The Bible Was A Weapon In The Hands Of Colonialists by DappaD: 1:03pm On Oct 24, 2021
Authority1o1:

I deduce that you refer to an already-written bible of an already-established religion. At least, if I'm correct, you understand that in contrast to what many believe, neither Christianity nor the Bible were formulated by Whites to help them subdue Africa.
It's very sickening to keep on coming across the "White-man-religion" and "Bible-was-written-by-Whites-for-the-purpose-of-mental-subduction-of-their-colonies" mantras. Or do you align with the thought?


Christianity was established by Jesus Christ in the first century(Matthew 28:19-20) and after the first century C.E., Christianity lost its meaning throughout the Dark Ages when Catholicism and Protestantism became the order not until the last days in which we find ourselves that true Christianity has again come to the fore as the wheats have been separated from the weeds. Matthew 13:30

The point of my previous post was to let you understand that those white men who used force to spread their teachings in Africa were not Christians but were the ravenous wolves who would infiltrate the Christian congregation, the ones that the apostles Paul and Peter talked about. Acts 20:29-30, 2Peter 2:1
Re: When People Say That The Bible Was A Weapon In The Hands Of Colonialists by lomprico(m): 1:21pm On Oct 24, 2021
paltielx:
Well whatever I don't see the Bible as a weapon, the truth in it as mentioned in John 8:32 set people like me from enslavement of demonic believe and culture, deceptions by religious leaders, and even the knowledge as to what we are doing in the earth today

you don't get the point OP was saying. the bible was used as a weapon in the hands of some people!
Re: When People Say That The Bible Was A Weapon In The Hands Of Colonialists by Authority1o1(m): 1:35pm On Oct 24, 2021
DappaD:


Christianity was established by Jesus Christ in the first century(Matthew 28:19-20) and after the first century C.E., Christianity lost its meaning throughout the Dark Ages when Catholicism and Protestantism became the order not until the last days in which we find ourselves that true Christianity has again come to the fore as the wheats have been separated from the weeds. Matthew 13:30

The point of my previous post was to let you understand that those white men who used force to spread their teachings in Africa were not Christians but were the ravenous wolves who would infiltrate the Christian congregation, the ones that the apostles Paul and Peter talked about. Acts 20:29-30, 2Peter 2:1


I admire the turn this is taking. But of a truth, I know part of what your point is before now. I believe any true christian who have made a contact with the Spiritual would be convinced that it's beyond politics or scheme.

Nevertheless, I'm quite ruffled by this: ...those white men who used force to spread their teachings in Africa were not Christians but were the ravenous wolves who would infiltrate the Christian congregation...

By 'those', do you make a reference to a particular set, or all?
Re: When People Say That The Bible Was A Weapon In The Hands Of Colonialists by DappaD: 2:14pm On Oct 24, 2021
Authority1o1:
I admire the turn this is taking. But of a truth, I know part of what your point is before now. I believe any true christian who have made a contact with the Spiritual would be convinced that it's beyond politics or scheme.

Nevertheless, I'm quite ruffled by this: ...those white men who used force to spread their teachings in Africa were not Christians but were the ravenous wolves who would infiltrate the Christian congregation...

By 'those', do you make a reference to a particular set, or all?


ALL. As long as force was used, we can’t say that it was Christianity that was being propagated. Need reasons why?
Re: When People Say That The Bible Was A Weapon In The Hands Of Colonialists by paltielx: 2:42pm On Oct 24, 2021
lomprico:


you don't get the point OP was saying. the bible was used as a weapon in the hands of some people!
abeg help me explain weapon as in how
Re: When People Say That The Bible Was A Weapon In The Hands Of Colonialists by lomprico(m): 2:45pm On Oct 24, 2021
paltielx:
abeg help me explain weapon as in how

I give up.
Re: When People Say That The Bible Was A Weapon In The Hands Of Colonialists by paltielx: 2:48pm On Oct 24, 2021
lomprico:

I give up.
something i'm asking of your help. Am serious o
Re: When People Say That The Bible Was A Weapon In The Hands Of Colonialists by Authority1o1(m): 3:13pm On Oct 24, 2021
paltielx:
It wasn't, to me fulfillment in Bible prophecies and it's accuracy when in touches scientific matters even science didn't discover them proves it that the Bible was and is never a weapon

So, your line of argument is that the Bible is scientifically accurate, and that that scientific consistency means that it wasn't possibly written by the new-age invading colonialists. And to add to your position, the ancient manuscripts and codices
which were the foundation of the bible make it impossible to agree that it was written by them to serve as a weapon in their hands, right?

But, do you think that it nullifies the belief that it was a weapon in their hands?
Re: When People Say That The Bible Was A Weapon In The Hands Of Colonialists by lomprico(m): 3:14pm On Oct 24, 2021
paltielx:
something i'm asking of your help. Am serious o

if a clergy does something bad or wrong and you point out what he did wrong, and he goes on to tell you 'judge not' he is using the bible as a weapon to defend his bad ways.
the Europeans used bible passages to justify the slave trades. thus using it as a weapon.
the crusaders spread the Gospel through wars and invasion, justifying their acts with bible passages.

that's what weaponising the bible is like according to what OP is asking.

Also, spiritually it's also used as a weapon against forces of evil. which is a good thing.
Re: When People Say That The Bible Was A Weapon In The Hands Of Colonialists by Authority1o1(m): 3:24pm On Oct 24, 2021
lomprico:


if a clergy does something bad or wrong and you point out what he did wrong, and he goes on to tell you 'judge not' he is using the bible as a weapon to defend his bad ways.
the Europeans used bible passages to justify the slave trades. thus using it as a weapon.
the crusaders spread the Gospel through wars and invasion, justifying their acts with bible passages.

that's what weaponising the bible is like according to what OP is asking.

Also, spiritually it's also used as a weapon against forces of evil. which is a good thing.

Did the colonialists have Christianity as their religion before their various invasions, or did they find themselves lucky to have a new book which they might have looked upon in glee, knowing that such discovery can propel their expeditions?

If you answer in the negative, did they use those passages that seemingly support slavery because of what they wanted to achieve?

And again, must they have sincerely thought that those passages actually supported slavery, or did they make their colonies understand it to be so? If they had wanted their colonies to accept slavery as permissible, don't you think other means other than the bible could have been used?

If not, were they simply ignorant in all sincerity to these things?
Re: When People Say That The Bible Was A Weapon In The Hands Of Colonialists by Authority1o1(m): 3:29pm On Oct 24, 2021
DappaD:



ALL. As long as force was used, we can’t say that it was Christianity that was being propagated. Need reasons why?

Intriguing.

Even the missionaries among them who came for evangelical purposes?

And by force, do you hint that not all of them who came made use of force? Does that singular attribute differentiate a percentage from all, or all as you highlighted.
Re: When People Say That The Bible Was A Weapon In The Hands Of Colonialists by DappaD: 3:31pm On Oct 24, 2021
Authority1o1:


Intriguing.

Even the missionaries among them who came for evangelical purposes?

I didn’t stutter in what I said.
Re: When People Say That The Bible Was A Weapon In The Hands Of Colonialists by Authority1o1(m): 3:35pm On Oct 24, 2021
DappaD:


I didn’t stutter in what I said.

You typed them in; you didn't have to stutter in what you took time to write.

But you can revisit the mention. The quote is updated.
Re: When People Say That The Bible Was A Weapon In The Hands Of Colonialists by lomprico(m): 4:27pm On Oct 24, 2021
Authority1o1:


Did the colonialists have Christianity as their religion before their various invasions, or did they find themselves lucky to have a new book which they might have looked upon in glee, knowing that such discovery can propel their expeditions?

If you answer in the negative, did they use those passages that seemingly support slavery because of what they wanted to achieve?

And again, must they have sincerely thought that those passages actually supported slavery, or did they make their colonies understand it to be so? If they had wanted their colonies to accept slavery as permissible, don't you think other means other than the bible could have been used?

If not, were they simply ignorant in all sincerity to these things?

the manipulations started during the time of the crusaders so during colonialism and slave trade they adopted the tactic.
Re: When People Say That The Bible Was A Weapon In The Hands Of Colonialists by DappaD: 5:58pm On Oct 24, 2021
Authority1o1:

Intriguing.
Even the missionaries among them who came for evangelical purposes?
And by force, do you hint that not all of them who came made use of force? Does that singular attribute differentiate a percentage from all, or all as you highlighted.

They didn’t employ the subtle methods which the apostles Paul did in taking the good news to the nations. So in order to penetrate into some lands, these so-called missionaries intermingled with colonial masters which is not what Jesus or Paul or any other Christian in the first century did.
The first century Christians didn’t have friends in authority and that was the reason they were severely persecuted(Acts 12:1), so where does forming friendships and alliances with the political powers leave these so-called missionaries ? James 4:4
Re: When People Say That The Bible Was A Weapon In The Hands Of Colonialists by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:56pm On Oct 24, 2021
Authority1o1:

Intriguing.
Even the missionaries among them who came for evangelical purposes?
And by force, do you hint that not all of them who came made use of force? Does that singular attribute differentiate a percentage from all, or all as you highlighted.

True Christianity that Jesus established has nothing to do with forceful indoctrination. So even when there are some missionaries who aren't using force, the end result is they will ask new converts to join those using force as co-worshipers and that means they're also part of that system.

In a nutshell all religious gatherings having anything to do with politicians is Antichrist, that is the reason why they can't truly be called Christians because Jesus stayed clear away from politics and he warned his followers not to participate in politics as that will make them take sides which will not make the bond he prayed for {John 17:22} manifest in their midst! John 13:34-35

Today the world is filled with hatred spurred by racism only one religion is able to eradicate RACISM and POLITICS in their midst, of course that one is the only Christian group! smiley
Re: When People Say That The Bible Was A Weapon In The Hands Of Colonialists by paltielx: 9:01pm On Oct 24, 2021
lomprico:


if a clergy does something bad or wrong and you point out what he did wrong, and he goes on to tell you 'judge not' he is using the bible as a weapon to defend his bad ways.
the Europeans used bible passages to justify the slave trades. thus using it as a weapon.
the crusaders spread the Gospel through wars and invasion, justifying their acts with bible passages. The Bible does not justify any act of violence, those crusaders used it execute their wicked aims. Also Bible doesn't has spiritual powers as portrayed in movies today, knowledge of what the Bible is can free one From such enslavement.

that's what weaponising the bible is like according to what OP is asking.

Also, spiritually it's also used as a weapon against forces of evil. which is a good thing.
Re: When People Say That The Bible Was A Weapon In The Hands Of Colonialists by Joshthefirst(m): 4:13pm On Aug 04, 2022
Authority1o1:



It's very sickening to keep on coming across the "White-man-religion" and "Bible-was-written-by-Whites-for-the-purpose-of-mental-subduction-of-their-colonies" mantras.

Sickening indeed, considering Jesus according to the flesh was Jewish, not British or white.

The true story of Christian mission work from Europe to Africa is an incredible story of love and sacrifice.
Re: When People Say That The Bible Was A Weapon In The Hands Of Colonialists by caye(m): 6:42pm On Aug 04, 2022
Joshthefirst:


Sickening indeed, considering Jesus according to the flesh was Jewish, not British or white.

The true story of Christian mission work from Europe to Africa is an incredible story of love and sacrifice.

They came in that order:
1. First , the lone explorer
2. Followed by the missionary and his Bible
3. Then the traders
4. Finally, the soldiers, guns and cannons.

One King in Ethiopia said,' let's move fast to the guns and cannon" , when he noticed the white infiltration.

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