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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kopell: 4:21pm On Nov 01, 2021
twinskenny:
One of this tower just collapsed at Gerald

One of three towers on Gerrard just collapsed to smithereens… Emergency Services yet to arrive. A defective structure suspected… it felt like an earthquake… like a horror movie…. Sad �
My God, I hope they are no people working there when it’s happened. Compromising on structural materials of building is like setting bomb timer.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rmx: 4:23pm On Nov 01, 2021
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 4:24pm On Nov 01, 2021
BrickDevo:
bro am telling you, this is only something an insider can confirm, on paper is a multi-billion structure, but in reality, it is just a substandard building.
let's wait for official reports on the collapse
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 4:29pm On Nov 01, 2021
michlins:
let's wait for official reports on the collapse

Nothing like official report… when owner try to be smart this is what happen….

And to all Enginneer that usually jump on a project without due finding… here you have it.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by walexProjects(m): 4:31pm On Nov 01, 2021
michlins:
let's wait for official reports on the collapse
It's not an Earthquake ooooh.i work close to that area and if it's an earthquake,Everyone in the office will feel the impact.
The structural engineer is in big Trouble.....
For a multi storey building like this,you don't cut corner and always build to standard.
its sad this is happening.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KolaShangOne(m): 4:32pm On Nov 01, 2021
20 storey building collapsed... VI..

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 4:36pm On Nov 01, 2021
walexProjects:

It's not an Earthquake ooooh.i work close to that area and if it's an earthquake,Everyone in the office will feel the impact.
The structural engineer is in big Trouble.....
For a multi storey building like this,you don't cut corner and always build to standard.
its sad this is happening.

The remaining two standing is not safe either…
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by walexProjects(m): 4:43pm On Nov 01, 2021
twinskenny:


The remaining two standing is not safe either…
Thank you @twinskenny for that info.
Buildings don't just collapse it's impossible except it's a supernatural occurrence such as earthquake.This building would have been showing signs,the Engineers,masons and others on site would have noticed it.but what did they do.They ignored the red flags.
My condolences goes to those that might have lost their lives.
Pls let's do things right in this country.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 4:47pm On Nov 01, 2021
walexProjects:

It's not an Earthquake ooooh.i work close to that area and if it's an earthquake,Everyone in the office will feel the impact.
The structural engineer is in big Trouble.....
For a multi storey building like this,you don't cut corner and always build to standard.
its sad this is happening.
I know it's not an earthquake. We're not on the fault line of the tectonic plates.

My concern is, what led to this should this building was built with standardized materials and experts
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 4:48pm On Nov 01, 2021
twinskenny:


Nothing like official report… when owner try to be smart this is what happen….

And to all Enginneer that usually jump on a project without due finding… here you have it.
well we will see. It's still too early.

Anyone can claim to be anyone

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nero2424: 4:49pm On Nov 01, 2021
twinskenny:


Nothing like official report… when owner try to be smart this is what happen….

And to all Enginneer that usually jump on a project without due finding… here you have it.

When all this so called Lagos state officials like money more than safety, this is what you see.. when an engineer what to jump on every project even when the funds arent enough, this could also be the end result.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kopell: 4:54pm On Nov 01, 2021
EgunMogaji2:


Chairman, your own is coming too Insha Allah . cheesy
Amina yah Allah, thanks �

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by hamtabfawaz(m): 4:59pm On Nov 01, 2021
somehow:

Nice pictures

You designed everything on this thread?

Do you have any client on this thread you did their interior sir?

Thanks Chairman
Yeah sir, have worked with two silent readers here.
and some are not from this thread at all.



@Fatfab

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KolaShangOne(m): 5:05pm On Nov 01, 2021
twinskenny:


Nothing like official report… when owner try to be smart this is what happen….

And to all Enginneer that usually jump on a project without due finding… here you have it.

Hmmm.. But is it even possible to build 20 storey buildings without an Engineer? A competent one at that.

Who will interpret the structural drawings?

The vibrations from the collapsed building would have most likely caused issues on the other structures.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 5:11pm On Nov 01, 2021
KolaShangOne:


Hmmm.. But is it even possible to build 20 storey buildings without an Engineer? A competent one at that.

Who will interpret the structural drawings?

The vibrations from the collapsed building would have most likely caused issues on the other structures.
I see smaller structures being awarded to construction firms not just an "engineer"

Who will even risk his money just like that? People cut corners true true but I don't believe it's in projects like this

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by jabolo(m): 5:29pm On Nov 01, 2021
Nero2424:

When all this so called Lagos state officials like money more than safety, this is what you see.. when an engineer what to jump on every project even when the funds arent enough, this could also be the end result.

Seems It is sad but was inevitable. The building has history ...


‘Preventing Calamity’! Gov. Sanwoolu Seals Gerrard, Ikoyi High-rise

https://www.thecapital.ng/higris/

What could have warranted such an order? Findings show that Lagos State Government is miffed with the property developers and owners for embarking on such a project without subjecting it to procedural approvals from the state government and other authorities vested with the mandate to ensure compliance with standards and quality. In other words, the massive project has been sealed for lack of approvals from required quarters, as Lagos State Government has risen stoutly and promptly to halt the gargantuan project.

According to an inside source who spoke in anonymity, the State Government took the action to seal the building in order to ensure that what happened with Lekki Gardens Estate when its on-going six-storey building collapsed on March 8, 2016 would not be witnessed again in the state.

“It is unheard of that the owners of the Ikoyi project in question would embark on such a capital intensive project without obtaining required approvals for a project as massive as that. Gone are the days of negligence on the part of the government when people flout the law. Sealing up the project is law taking its due course
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 5:37pm On Nov 01, 2021
jabolo:


Seems It is sad but was inevitable. The building has history ...


‘Preventing Calamity’! Gov. Sanwoolu Seals Gerrard, Ikoyi High-rise

https://www.thecapital.ng/higris/

What could have warranted such an order? Findings show that Lagos State Government is miffed with the property developers and owners for embarking on such a project without subjecting it to procedural approvals from the state government and other authorities vested with the mandate to ensure compliance with standards and quality. In other words, the massive project has been sealed for lack of approvals from required quarters, as Lagos State Government has risen stoutly and promptly to halt the gargantuan project.

According to an inside source who spoke in anonymity, the State Government took the action to seal the building in order to ensure that what happened with Lekki Gardens Estate when its on-going six-storey building collapsed on March 8, 2016 would not be witnessed again in the state.

“It is unheard of that the owners of the Ikoyi project in question would embark on such a capital intensive project without obtaining required approvals for a project as massive as that. Gone are the days of negligence on the part of the government when people flout the law. Sealing up the project is law taking its due course

This is rather funny… so when did they sealed the building? The building is already at finishing stages…..

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by jabolo(m): 5:43pm On Nov 01, 2021
twinskenny:


This is rather funny… so when did they sealed the building? The building is already at finishing stages…..

The news article is from July 2020 so it must have been 'unsealed' somehow since.

A lot of LASG officials sitting on hot seats right now.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 6:18pm On Nov 01, 2021
jabolo:


The news article is from July 2020 so it must have been 'unsealed' somehow since.

A lot of LASG officials sitting on hot seats right now.
saw some documents about the initial developer abandoning the project because it wasn't built according to plan. Was meant to be a twelve storey.

I don't know how true that is so I can't upload it here
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by BuildingProject: 6:48pm On Nov 01, 2021
somehow:
I'd be needing an interior designer very soon.

Any recommendation on this thread?

I have one at hand in my ongoing project. How dip your pocket is, náà how you're going to be marveled
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by dongc(m): 6:55pm On Nov 01, 2021
Without any fact or evidence.. why are people jumping guns...structural this and that....engineer this and that.....

So many insinuations and hear say....make una chill small...whatever the issue was/is however it's hidden would come out sometime or some how...

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KolaShangOne(m): 7:01pm On Nov 01, 2021
jabolo:


Seems It is sad but was inevitable. The building has history ...


‘Preventing Calamity’! Gov. Sanwoolu Seals Gerrard, Ikoyi High-rise

https://www.thecapital.ng/higris/

What could have warranted such an order? Findings show that Lagos State Government is miffed with the property developers and owners for embarking on such a project without subjecting it to procedural approvals from the state government and other authorities vested with the mandate to ensure compliance with standards and quality. In other words, the massive project has been sealed for lack of approvals from required quarters, as Lagos State Government has risen stoutly and promptly to halt the gargantuan project.

According to an inside source who spoke in anonymity, the State Government took the action to seal the building in order to ensure that what happened with Lekki Gardens Estate when its on-going six-storey building collapsed on March 8, 2016 would not be witnessed again in the state.

“It is unheard of that the owners of the Ikoyi project in question would embark on such a capital intensive project without obtaining required approvals for a project as massive as that. Gone are the days of negligence on the part of the government when people flout the law. Sealing up the project is law taking its due course
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 7:08pm On Nov 01, 2021
twinskenny:


Nothing like official report… when owner try to be smart this is what happen….

And to all Enginneer that usually jump on a project without due finding… here you have it.

Old timers would remember Skimanski telling us how he ran outside from a flat in Lekki Gardens once he saw the shoddy construction.

Shortly thereafter there was a collapse in one of the buildings.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by QSFemi(m): 7:16pm On Nov 01, 2021
IKOYI BUILDING COLLAPSE.

May the souls of the victims that were trapped and lost in the process rest in peace. My condolences to the bereaved families and may God Almighty grant them fortitude to bear the loss.

The Nigerian system failed you.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by DFAMEGUY11S(m): 7:56pm On Nov 01, 2021
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 8:06pm On Nov 01, 2021
QSFemi:
IKOYI BUILDING COLLAPSE.

May the souls of the victims that were trapped and lost in the process rest in peace. My condolences to the bereaved families and may God Almighty grant them fortitude to bear the loss.

The Nigerian system failed you.

Knowing Nigeria system is the first law of survival.

I have a client on the 12th floor of Cocoa House. We’ve done millions in business but I’ll never go to their office. I just can’t do it.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by babadots: 8:06pm On Nov 01, 2021
This is sad, very sad indeed.

As suggested by many here, we will have to wait for the investigation report to know the true cause of this calamity. But are reports ever published in Nigeria? Do people get punished for the compromises that lead to loss of life? I am not too hopeful that we will learn from this, since we didn't learn from the previous occurrences, including the Synagogue. Political interference always trump's the health and safety of Nigerians

Anyhow, what we must not forget is that our government do not seem too concerned about the quality of products in use on Nigerian projects. Even made in Nigeria rebars do not comply with global standards upon which engineers rely for their design and specifications. This has always been a concern for me. 12mm, 16mm, 20mm rebars never have the advertised diameter. You can pay for a particular sized bar and be supplied something less than that yet you are expected to take it and not complain. Everyone accepts that as normal behaviour and the regulatory agencies do not care.

SON should have some blame in this. This will, unfortunately, not be the last occurrence until we start holding ourselves accountable.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by SurveyorGeo: 8:12pm On Nov 01, 2021
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by babadots: 8:12pm On Nov 01, 2021
EgunMogaji2:


Knowing Nigeria system is the first law of survival.

I have a client on the 12th floor of Cocoa House. We’ve done millions in business but I’ll never go to their office. I just can’t do it.

Sir, Cocoa House is very very safe. It was built by competent people at a time when standards were strictly adhered to. I would not have any problems doing anything in Cocoa House, but would worry myself sick going inside a modern 6 storey building. The slide into depravity that we have embarked upon in Nigeria in the form of the worship of money, howsoever acquired, is what is the root cause of these calamities.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 8:13pm On Nov 01, 2021
babadots:
This is sad, very sad indeed.

As suggested by many here, we will have to wait for the investigation report to know the true cause of this calamity. But are reports ever published in Nigeria? Do people get punished for the compromises that lead to loss of life? I am not too hopeful that we will learn from this, since we didn't learn from the previous occurrences, including the Synagogue. Political interference always trump's the health and safety of Nigerians

Anyhow, what we must not forget is that our government do not seem too concerned about the quality of products in use on Nigerian projects. Even made in Nigeria rebars do not comply with global standards upon which engineers rely for their design and specifications. This has always been a concern for me. 12mm, 16mm, 20mm rebars never have the advertised diameter. You can pay for a particular sized bar and be supplied something less than that yet you are expected to take it and not complain. Everyone accepts that as normal behaviour and the regulatory agencies do not care.

SON should have some blame in this. This will, unfortunately, not be the last occurrence until we start holding ourselves accountable.
I was discussing the issue of quality of iron few days ago. If you need 10mm rod now, you need to buy 12mm rods instead to get something close to true 10mm.

My heart goes out to all the families who lost someone in this avoidable incident. Imagine that whenever people say happy new month, you will remember your dead loved one

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by QSFemi(m): 8:14pm On Nov 01, 2021
I share in your sentiments honestly, sir.


EgunMogaji2:


Knowing Nigeria system is the first law of survival.

I have a client on the 12th floor of Cocoa House. We’ve done millions in business but I’ll never go to their office. I just can’t do it.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KolaShangOne(m): 9:50pm On Nov 01, 2021
Sooo... the initial construction company pulled out..

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