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Re: Finally I'm Free from religion by Nothingserious: 11:03pm On Oct 31, 2021
Workch:
When you don’t have evidence for the nonsense claims, you called it miracles.

That’s fraud cheesy
Let’s try again. I already gave you tips on reading and comprehension. So bite again and see if you would do better. Ready ...go....

Our willingness to accept scientific claims that are against common sense is the key to an understanding of the real struggle between science and the supernatural. We take the side of science in spite of the patent absurdity of some of its constructs, in spite of its failure to fulfill many of its extravagant promises of health and life, in spite of the tolerance of the scientific community for unsubstantiated just-so stories, because we have a prior commitment, a commitment to materialism. It is not that the methods and institutions of science somehow compel us to accept a material explanation of the phenomenal world, but, on the contrary, that we are forced by our a priori adherence to material causes to create an apparatus of investigation and a set of concepts that produce material explanations, no matter how counter-intuitive, no matter how mystifying to the uninitiated. Moreover, that materialism is absolute, for we cannot allow a Divine Foot in the door.
[Billions and Billions of Demons - JANUARY 9, 1997 ISSUE]
Richard C. Lewontin
Re: Finally I'm Free from religion by Nothingserious: 11:05pm On Oct 31, 2021
Workch:
Help me comprehend by providing just one evidence.

I dare you to provide just one evidence, just one. Anything that can be tested.


Fraudulent people with wayo miracle claims
Still waiting for your feedback foolish boy and fraud scientist

Our willingness to accept scientific claims that are against common sense is the key to an understanding of the real struggle between science and the supernatural. We take the side of science in spite of the patent absurdity of some of its constructs, in spite of its failure to fulfill many of its extravagant promises of health and life, in spite of the tolerance of the scientific community for unsubstantiated just-so stories, because we have a prior commitment, a commitment to materialism. It is not that the methods and institutions of science somehow compel us to accept a material explanation of the phenomenal world, but, on the contrary, that we are forced by our a priori adherence to material causes to create an apparatus of investigation and a set of concepts that produce material explanations, no matter how counter-intuitive, no matter how mystifying to the uninitiated. Moreover, that materialism is absolute, for we cannot allow a Divine Foot in the door.
[Billions and Billions of Demons - JANUARY 9, 1997 ISSUE]
Richard C. Lewontin
Re: Finally I'm Free from religion by Workch: 11:05pm On Oct 31, 2021
[b]
Nothingserious:
Let’s try again. I already gave you tips on reading and comprehension. So bite again and see if you would do better. Ready ...go....

Our willingness to accept scientific claims that are against common sense is the key to an understanding of the real struggle between science and the supernatural. We take the side of science in spite of the patent absurdity of some of its constructs, in spite of its failure to fulfill many of its extravagant promises of health and life, in spite of the tolerance of the scientific community for unsubstantiated just-so stories, because we have a prior commitment, a commitment to materialism. It is not that the methods and institutions of science somehow compel us to accept a material explanation of the phenomenal world, but, on the contrary, that we are forced by our a priori adherence to material causes to create an apparatus of investigation and a set of concepts that produce material explanations, no matter how counter-intuitive, no matter how mystifying to the uninitiated. Moreover, that materialism is absolute, for we cannot allow a Divine Foot in the door.
[Billions and Billions of Demons - JANUARY 9, 1997 ISSUE]
Richard C. Lewontin
[/b]Its time for long articles because evidence don’t exist.

If you like post the full book of that man, it’s useless to me without evidence. You can go teach this to your gullible church members grin
Re: Finally I'm Free from religion by Nothingserious: 11:05pm On Oct 31, 2021
Workch:
How did Mary conceive without fertilization?
Miralce
How did moses path the sea?
Miracle.
How did a serpent speak to Eve?
Miracle
How did Jesus walk on water?
Miracle.


Gbognonise answer that doesn’t work. It’s fraud grin
Our willingness to accept scientific claims that are against common sense is the key to an understanding of the real struggle between science and the supernatural. We take the side of science in spite of the patent absurdity of some of its constructs, in spite of its failure to fulfill many of its extravagant promises of health and life, in spite of the tolerance of the scientific community for unsubstantiated just-so stories, because we have a prior commitment, a commitment to materialism. It is not that the methods and institutions of science somehow compel us to accept a material explanation of the phenomenal world, but, on the contrary, that we are forced by our a priori adherence to material causes to create an apparatus of investigation and a set of concepts that produce material explanations, no matter how counter-intuitive, no matter how mystifying to the uninitiated. Moreover, that materialism is absolute, for we cannot allow a Divine Foot in the door.
[Billions and Billions of Demons - JANUARY 9, 1997 ISSUE]
Richard C. Lewontin
Re: Finally I'm Free from religion by Workch: 11:06pm On Oct 31, 2021
[b]
Nothingserious:
Still waiting for your feedback foolish boy and fraud scientist

Our willingness to accept scientific claims that are against common sense is the key to an understanding of the real struggle between science and the supernatural. We take the side of science in spite of the patent absurdity of some of its constructs, in spite of its failure to fulfill many of its extravagant promises of health and life, in spite of the tolerance of the scientific community for unsubstantiated just-so stories, because we have a prior commitment, a commitment to materialism. It is not that the methods and institutions of science somehow compel us to accept a material explanation of the phenomenal world, but, on the contrary, that we are forced by our a priori adherence to material causes to create an apparatus of investigation and a set of concepts that produce material explanations, no matter how counter-intuitive, no matter how mystifying to the uninitiated. Moreover, that materialism is absolute, for we cannot allow a Divine Foot in the door.
[Billions and Billions of Demons - JANUARY 9, 1997 ISSUE]
Richard C. Lewontin
[\b] This nonsense long quote will only work for your gullible church members. Only evidence can make me believe and I am sure you have none cheesy
Re: Finally I'm Free from religion by Nothingserious: 11:07pm On Oct 31, 2021
Workch:
[b][/b]Its time for long articles because evidence don’t exist.

If you like post the full book of that man, it’s useless to me without evidence. You can go teach this to your gullible church members grin
Chai!
This boy is very foolish.
I have told you severally that this quote is not from a Christian. Who do you this strong thing?

“Our willingness to accept scientific claims that are against common sense is the key to an understanding of the real struggle between science and the supernatural. We take the side of science in spite of the patent absurdity of some of its constructs, in spite of its failure to fulfill many of its extravagant promises of health and life, in spite of the tolerance of the scientific community for unsubstantiated just-so stories, because we have a prior commitment, a commitment to materialism. It is not that the methods and institutions of science somehow compel us to accept a material explanation of the phenomenal world, but, on the contrary, that we are forced by our a priori adherence to material causes to create an apparatus of investigation and a set of concepts that produce material explanations, no matter how counter-intuitive, no matter how mystifying to the uninitiated. Moreover, that materialism is absolute, for we cannot allow a Divine Foot in the door.
[Billions and Billions of Demons - JANUARY 9, 1997 ISSUE]
Richard C. Lewontin
Re: Finally I'm Free from religion by Workch: 11:08pm On Oct 31, 2021
Nothingserious:
Our willingness to accept scientific claims that are against common sense is the key to an understanding of the real struggle between science and the supernatural. We take the side of science in spite of the patent absurdity of some of its constructs, in spite of its failure to fulfill many of its extravagant promises of health and life, in spite of the tolerance of the scientific community for unsubstantiated just-so stories, because we have a prior commitment, a commitment to materialism. It is not that the methods and institutions of science somehow compel us to accept a material explanation of the phenomenal world, but, on the contrary, that we are forced by our a priori adherence to material causes to create an apparatus of investigation and a set of concepts that produce material explanations, no matter how counter-intuitive, no matter how mystifying to the uninitiated. Moreover, that materialism is absolute, for we cannot allow a Divine Foot in the door.
[Billions and Billions of Demons - JANUARY 9, 1997 ISSUE]
Richard C. Lewontin
If you like, post his full book. You still have to provide evidence.
cheesy

This is not your church where you can confuse people willl fraudulent quotes
Re: Finally I'm Free from religion by Workch: 11:09pm On Oct 31, 2021
Nothingserious:
Chai!
This boy is very foolish.
I have told you severally that this quote is not from a Christian. Who do you this strong thing?

“Our willingness to accept scientific claims that are against common sense is the key to an understanding of the real struggle between science and the supernatural. We take the side of science in spite of the patent absurdity of some of its constructs, in spite of its failure to fulfill many of its extravagant promises of health and life, in spite of the tolerance of the scientific community for unsubstantiated just-so stories, because we have a prior commitment, a commitment to materialism. It is not that the methods and institutions of science somehow compel us to accept a material explanation of the phenomenal world, but, on the contrary, that we are forced by our a priori adherence to material causes to create an apparatus of investigation and a set of concepts that produce material explanations, no matter how counter-intuitive, no matter how mystifying to the uninitiated. Moreover, that materialism is absolute, for we cannot allow a Divine Foot in the door.
[Billions and Billions of Demons - JANUARY 9, 1997 ISSUE]
Richard C. Lewontin
Stop abusing me and give us evidence.

No evidence then it’s fraud. grin
Re: Finally I'm Free from religion by kingxsamz(m): 11:13pm On Oct 31, 2021
Nothingserious:
My God made the humans and asked humans to dominate the earth.
That’s the Genesis of science.
Man created in the image of God can utilize the God-given abilities to dominate the earth.
The question is, why did humans have to try to correct whatever happened to the boy since you claim your god created him perfectly without mistakes.
Answer the question and stop giving me these mumbo jumbo talks?
Re: Finally I'm Free from religion by Dtruthspeaker: 6:34am On Nov 01, 2021
sonmvayina:
Dtruthspeaker. Dem don dey use you wipe ground again...

See a psychiatrist.. I will pay for it...send me the bill.
Na your new comrade in madness I just dey meet, wey no know say na human being dey talk here for Nairaland.

Dem don put am like 2 floors down your own since e no mad reach you.
Re: Finally I'm Free from religion by Dtruthspeaker: 7:12am On Nov 01, 2021
A001:
Even your fellow Christians would be laughing at your stupidity.
I have so much enemies here such that IF IT WAS TRUE, I would have had so much mentions this morning, congratulating you and insulting me

But it is Not True!

And you are known to be A Liar and Now Stupid has been added to it. WHAT A SHAME!

A001:
Real humans don't exist or live on a website since it's not a real place.

Only threads, posts, members' accounts (not the members themselves), and other sections of the site exist on Nairaland.

Real humans live in a house, which is a real place.
Based on your Latest Acquisition of Stupidity, you are so stupid to not know!

1) that Nairaland is no different from the Office or Shop or Beer Parlour where Existing "Real humans" scientifically evidencially come and go as they please.

2) that "threads and posts" DO NOT THREADS AND POST THEMSELVES, EXACTLY LIKE A BOOKS, TEXTBOOKS ETC, DID NOT WRITE ITSELF, But it is the Existing "Real humans" who did it and caused it.

3) "members' accounts" - CLEARLY SCIENTIFICALLY EVIDENCE EXISTING "REAL HUMANS" WHO CONTROL THE ACCOUNT.

MEMBER'S ACCOUNTS DID NOT CREATE THEMSELVES NOR CONTROL THEMSELVES.

But you are foolish to not know these simple ordinary everyday things.

Boy, what a disappointment to your parents and the society.

Thus, you are the one Who TRULY Suffers the Illness of Aggravated Stupidity and Mass Foolishness.

Recommendation! Go To Primary and Secondary School! grin

You know So Much Nothings, boy!

(Time to Bunker Up Dtruthspeaker!) grin
Re: Finally I'm Free from religion by Nothingserious: 8:06am On Nov 01, 2021
Workch:
Stop abusing me and give us evidence.

No evidence then it’s fraud. grin
Did I abuse you?
Maybe I needed to remind you one of those motion ( Newtonian laws) that talks about action and reaction being equal and opposite.
I present back to you what you push to me.
That shouldn’t bother you.

That said, I was thinking you would be smart enough to read the quote and mirror your position in there. It’s a shame you don’t understand it.

That about summarizes you and your position.
Cheers
Re: Finally I'm Free from religion by Nothingserious: 8:16am On Nov 01, 2021
kingxsamz:
The question is, why did humans have to try to correct whatever happened to the boy since you claim your god created him perfectly without mistakes.
Answer the question and stop giving me these mumbo jumbo talks?
First of all you deviated from the issue we had discussed: science solving ALL of man’s problem and fixing EVERYTHING. That’s scientism. It’s not true. It self destructed itself by kicking even the science it tries to defend.
Many philosophers including some atheists jettisoned it many years ago. I know you don’t know.

Secondly, God is sovereign and handed critical and creative abilities to humans made in his image ( See Genesis 1). Humans have the capacity to fix anomalies that come up in nature because of the inherent abilities God placed in them.
Remember there are many Christian surgeons working in hospitals. So surgery isn’t an exclusive preserve of godless people. And medical science does not transform people to godlessness.

The disciples asked Jesus about the blind Bartimeaus whether the parents sinned or the guy did. Jesus said none. Rather there was a purpose for the perceived misfortune.

If your emotional objections to God are based on sufferings in the universe, that’s fine.

If you develop a relationship with God, you could start asking for guidance to understand things from his point of view and not yours.
The earth is his and the fullness thereof.
Last time we checked, it was still his and not yours.
Re: Finally I'm Free from religion by Nothingserious: 8:20am On Nov 01, 2021
Workch:
If you like, post his full book. You still have to provide evidence.
cheesy

This is not your church where you can confuse people willl fraudulent quotes
I am disappointed in you.
I gave you a quote from a respected intellectual who happens to share same worldview with you. In your characteristic self, you assumed a pastor wrote it. Lol

Abeg go and rest. That quote summarizes your struggle. I will allow you secretly check it out in the next few days, read it, regurgitate it , assimilate it, internalize it and then respond from a point of knowledge.

See you next time.
Re: Finally I'm Free from religion by Workch: 8:31am On Nov 01, 2021
Nothingserious:
I am disappointed in you.
I gave you a quote from a respected intellectual who happens to share same worldview with you. In your characteristic self, you assumed a pastor wrote it. Lol

Abeg go and rest. That quote summarizes your struggle. I will allow you secretly check it out in the next few days, read it, regurgitate it , assimilate it, internalize it and then respond from a point of knowledge.

See you next time.
Loser, provide evidence and see me bow out in shame grin
Re: Finally I'm Free from religion by Workch: 8:31am On Nov 01, 2021
Nothingserious:
Did I abuse you?
Maybe I needed to remind you one of those motion ( Newtonian laws) that talks about action and reaction being equal and opposite.
I present back to you what you push to me.
That shouldn’t bother you.

That said, I was thinking you would be smart enough to read the quote and mirror your position in there. It’s a shame you don’t understand it.

That about summarizes you and your position.
Cheers
Shut up, what do you know about Newtonian law?

Illiterate using a scientific law out of context
Re: Finally I'm Free from religion by kingxsamz(m): 8:34am On Nov 01, 2021
Nothingserious:
[s] First of all you deviated from the issue we had discussed: science solving ALL of man’s problem and fixing EVERYTHING. That’s scientism. It’s not true. It self destructed itself by kicking even the science it tries to defend.
Many philosophers including some atheists jettisoned it many years ago. I know you don’t know.

Secondly, God is sovereign and handed critical and creative abilities to humans made in his image ( See Genesis 1).
Remember there are many Christian surgeons working in hospitals. So surgery isn’t an exclusive preserve of godless people. And medical science does not transform people to godlessness.

The disciples asked Jesus about the blind Bartimeaus whether the parents sinned or the guy did. Jesus said none. Rather there was a purpose for the perceived misfortune.

If your emotional objections to God are based on sufferings in the universe, that’s fine.

If you develop a relationship with God, you could start asking for guidance to understand things from his point of view and not yours.
The earth is his and the fullness thereof.
Last time we checked, it was still his and not yours. [/s]
Bro, this long write up is highly unnecessary and irrelevant to the simple question I asked.

Nothingserious
Humans have the capacity to fix anomalies that come up in nature because of the inherent abilities God placed in them.
This is what I'm addressing bro.
Why should humans be "fixing" anomalies in new borns when you claim your god makes no mistakes in his creation?
Give a straightforward answer,not the gibberish up there.
Re: Finally I'm Free from religion by Nothingserious: 8:38am On Nov 01, 2021
Workch:
Shut up, what do you know about Newtonian law?

Illiterate using a scientific law out of context
When I was reading Holderness and Lambert, Nelkon, Okeke and Anyakoha, Ababio, Stones, you were probably still running around naked.

Shut up and stop all the emotional tantrums foolish boy.
Re: Finally I'm Free from religion by Nothingserious: 8:40am On Nov 01, 2021
Workch:
Loser, provide evidence and see me bow out in shame grin
Kingsamx is reasonable and does better Job than you despite our varying worldviews.

You? I just use you to catch cruise.
Silly little boy.
The butterfly thinks himself a bird~(The Gods are not to blame)
Re: Finally I'm Free from religion by Workch: 8:49am On Nov 01, 2021
Nothingserious:
Kingsamx is reasonable and does better Job than you despite our varying worldviews.

You? I just use you to catch cruise.
Silly little boy.
The butterfly thinks himself a bird~(The Gods are not to blame)
Shut up and provide evidence.
I don’t have patience for religious fools like you
Re: Finally I'm Free from religion by Workch: 8:50am On Nov 01, 2021
Nothingserious:
When I was reading Holderness and Lambert, Nelkon, Okeke and Anyakoha, Ababio, Stones, you were probably still running around naked.

Shut up and stop all the emotional tantrums foolish boy.
so how come you are This illiterate? cool
Re: Finally I'm Free from religion by Nothingserious: 9:02am On Nov 01, 2021
Workch:
so how come you are This illiterate? cool
You wanted to type literate right? Lol

I don’t like bragging. I hate that you had bragged from day one. Not good enough.

I didn’t stop at the Sec school. I was also taught materials science, strength, thermo, analysis, structures, fluid. Maybe you had thought I was a pastor.

Just focus on issues at discuss when we talk okay. Drop your science profiles by the side.
Re: Finally I'm Free from religion by Workch: 9:04am On Nov 01, 2021
Nothingserious:
You wanted to type literate right? Lol

I don’t like bragging. I hate that you had bragged from day one. Not good enough.

I didn’t stop at the Sec school. I was also taught materials science, strength, thermo, analysis, structures, fluid. Maybe you had thought I was a pastor.

Just focus on issues at discuss when we talk okay. Drop your science profiles by the side.
Mumu doesn’t get sarcasm?

No wonder he’s a religious fanatic. Can’t get simple sarcasm. cheesy

There’s nothing brag about, your head is empty
Re: Finally I'm Free from religion by Nothingserious: 9:15am On Nov 01, 2021
Workch:
Mumu doesn’t get sarcasm?

No wonder he’s a religious fanatic. Can’t get simple sarcasm. cheesy

There’s nothing brag about, your head is empty
E shock you abi?

Joke was on you. I said “literate”.

Oh poor boy!
Cry me a river.
Come back here next time to boast about your science profile and see me tear you to shreds.
Re: Finally I'm Free from religion by Workch: 9:58am On Nov 01, 2021
Nothingserious:
E shock you abi?

Joke was on you. I said “literate”.

Oh poor boy!
Cry me a river.
Come back here next time to boast about your science profile and see me tear you to shreds.
Alright don’t distract us from evidence?
grin
I’m begging you to provide one
Re: Finally I'm Free from religion by Tobedated(op): 12:18pm On Nov 01, 2021
kingxsamz:
Bro, this long write up is highly unnecessary and irrelevant to the simple question I asked.



This is what I'm addressing bro.
Why should humans be "fixing" anomalies in new borns when you claim your god makes no mistakes in his creation?
Give a straightforward answer,not the gibberish up there.
Nothingserious:
E shock you abi?

Joke was on you. I said “literate”.

Oh poor boy!
Cry me a river.
Come back here next time to boast about your science profile and see me tear you to shreds.
Workch:
Alright don’t distract us from evidence?
grin
I’m begging you to provide one
Hey bros let solve dis once and for all theist bring proof dat god exist from outside of your religion that is from the world a good firm proof dat atheist bring proof y you disagree then atheist bring your proof dat god doesn't exist and let the theist oppose it let the debate begin theist first
Re: Finally I'm Free from religion by Workch: 1:22pm On Nov 01, 2021
Tobedated:
Hey bros let solve dis once and for all theist bring proof dat god exist from outside of your religion that is from the world a good firm proof dat atheist bring proof y you disagree then atheist bring your proof dat god doesn't exist and let the theist oppose it let the debate begin theist first
Theists don’t have any evidence
Re: Finally I'm Free from religion by Tobedated(op): 1:59pm On Nov 01, 2021
Workch:
Theists don’t have any evidence
i guess you're right coz there hasn't been a reply from them
Re: Finally I'm Free from religion by Workch: 6:37pm On Nov 01, 2021
Tobedated:
i guess you're right coz there hasn't been a reply from them
I am so sure.
That’s why it’s called religion, you don’t need evidence to believe it.
Re: Finally I'm Free from religion by badboyTee(m): 10:14pm On Nov 01, 2021
where is hard mirror pls
Re: Finally I'm Free from religion by Nobody: 12:00am On Nov 03, 2021
Tobedated:
Yes that right free from religion i can't believe i believed in that shit for a long time i hope others to find a way out it just sad that i can't convince my family what a pity
What happened? what did you discover
Re: Finally I'm Free from religion by Okonjo123(m): 12:02am On Nov 03, 2021
Iyaebe:
What happened? what did you discover
good evening ma
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