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iamoyindamola:
But when I said joint defending I was seeing gabu name pop up
Partey was also defending with auba pressing from the top

but with all these pressing from the top, how come dey still reach dem back 5?

We've always pressed from the top and passed from the back since last season. How come we're keeping more clean sheets than last season? ( count from Jan to may, and ignore the pre-Am time)

iamoyindamola:
Defence
Who are the defence?
Anyone can pick up the job to defend and track back but can every player do the job of turning defence to attack?
This is the work of partey, ESR and odeegaard which I acknowledged over and over again

O yes anyone can and that is why we paraded clowns with self destructive buttons all over their body. Partey/ESR/ Odegaard we’re frequent starters last season when we were batting relegation at one point before finishing 10th… No be so? So what changed?

iamoyindamola:
You didn't answer why gabu was overlooked ahead of the clowns last season

Water will always find its level. Those clowns u see today, u will see them no more; that's just the case of Gabriel.

Gabriel is here today bossing the defence while those clowns u have affection for are nowhere to be found like error 404. Even Smith-Rowe that we all celebrate today was once benched na. What matters is Gabriel is one of our best players as of today and those of us that stan him while u were on Ur agenda have been proven right.

Roland17:
You are making this about Gabu and if we go that route you will still be wrong.. massively.. We saw White with Mari and we have seen White with Gabu.

But with Leno in goal not ramsdale
You see it doesn't work that way too
I have to include Gabriel cos he was the focal point of we need midfielders only to get CB

Blueraydick, I don’t want us to be arguing this forth and back since the agenda is to score point. These same midfielders u mentioned are they on the same form with that of last season NO, look closely at those players in midfield and you gonna see improvement in them.

Don’t let’s get carried away, let’s see how they will absorb the intensity of Liverpool in Anfield to know whether the midfielders or it’s the defense that stepped up.

The only thing I noticed that improved in this current squad is the confidence.

I’m not myself at the moment to engage for so long I will have pen down an epistle with some facts. Let’s just agree to disagree biko.

BlueRayDick:
Water will always find its level. Those clowns u see today, u will see them no more; that's just the case of Gabriel.

Gabriel is here today bossing the defence while those clowns u have affection for are nowhere to be found like error 404. Even Smith-Rowe that we all celebrate today was once benched na. What matters is Gabriel is one of our best players as of today and those of us that stan him while u were on Ur agenda have been proven right.

He was surplus to requirements last season cos he was error prone too
Let me remind you he dumped us out of the FA cup last season, he improve this season

One thing is very clear with Arteta tactics
His attack starts from the back and the midfield is just to transition. Reason why almost all our back 5 are good passers. If play breaks in the midfield, we'll go back again. More so, they are all good aerially and defensively.

There's a reason why we're keeping clean sheets even tho our defence have faced one of the highest shots among top six this season

Akinbahm:
Blueraydick, I don’t want us to be arguing this forth and back since the agenda is to score point. These same midfielders u mentioned are they on the same form with that of last season NO, look closely at those players in midfield and you gonna see improvement in them.

Don’t let’s get carried away, let’s see how they will absorb the intensity of Liverpool in Anfield to know whether the midfielders or it’s the defense that stepped up.

The only thing I noticed that improved in this current squad is the confidence.

I’m not myself at the moment to engage for so long I will have pen down an epistle with some facts. Let’s just agree to disagree biko.

Confidence
You might be right
Ramsdale bought that, I remember when Martinez was also in goal the same clowns were keeping CS

iamoyindamola:
That's the problem here I asked you if you were judging with today's game that's why I included partey and ódegaard
But you were hell bent on today game that's why I showed you how amn won the motm

I'm not concerned about today's game, u are the one who chose this particular game to start Ur midfield agenda all over again.


I've watched all our matches this season and I can tell u for free that if we still had Sokaratis, Luiz, mustafi, Chambers, Bellerin as part of our defence we won't be close to where we are today. Those guys have failed us so much in the past for me not to know what they are capable of. Those guys were being stylishly replaced instead of u to siddon and look u were busy with Ur midfield agenda.

Almost nothing was done to the midfield but much was done to the defence, now see us doing well. How u think u can still continue with that Ur midfield agenda is still a mystery sha

kodded:
you think say we for win this match if our CB na Mustafi and Mari, with bellerin and kolasinac as our fullbacks

And you believe we go end this match 1-0 if we have the likes of Sane Lewa Salah Kdb Gundogan and Fernandinho up front?

Going with your assertion.

iamoyindamola:
But with Leno in goal not ramsdale
You see it doesn't work that way too
I have to include Gabriel cos he was the focal point of we need midfielders only to get CB

It must be Ramsdale that is helping the back 4 to keep the line.
It must be Ramsdale that is telling the defenders when to step higher up and when to stay
It must be Ramsdale that okays for one defender to join the attack and for the other to sit back
It must be Ramsdale that coordinates and communicate situational defending.
We love Ramsdale, he is part of the defending unit and has been spectacular but there is no crime in admitting Gabu is leading that defense.
Every defensive unit has their leader, is our Ramsdale?

Akinbahm:
And you believe we go end this match 1-0 if we have the likes of Sane Lewa Salah Kdb Gundogan and Fernandinho up front?

Going with your assertion.

None of the listed players played for Arsenal..

Akinbahm:
Blueraydick, I don’t want us to be arguing this forth and back since the agenda is to score point. These same midfielders u mentioned are they on the same form with that of last season NO, look closely at those players in midfield and you gonna see improvement in them.

Don’t let’s get carried away, let’s see how they will absorb the intensity of Liverpool in Anfield to know whether the midfielders or it’s the defense that stepped up.

The only thing I noticed that improved in this current squad is the confidence.

I’m not myself at the moment to engage for so long I will have pen down an epistle with some facts. Let’s just agree to disagree biko.

I've never issue with the midfield, it's u guys that's always had issues there. I've always been concerned about players like Papasthapopulous, Luiz and Mustafi playing for a club like Arsenal that's in contention to win at least FA cup or EFL cup in a season. I've always felt they were not good enough and should be gotten rid of.

The club management got rid of them and Gabriel that was brought in that time didn't disappoint me. Even when he was playing well u and kokane and Iamoyindamola by association said his singing want necessary, rather we should have continued with those clowns mentioned up there while we signed more midfielders.

Well, the club management like myself disagreed and not only got Gabriel a staring place but disposed each of those clowns and even brought on more defenders with just one backup CM added. Now we are doing quite well and Una just think say that una midfield agenda go just sell like that?

The fact that u guys can't point out to any visible addition to our midfield but we can point to at least 3 additions to defence and we are doing well already kills off whatever epistle u might want to pen down. If u disagree, write Ur epistle I will find time to reply in good time.

BlueRayDick:
I'm not concerned about today's game, u are the one who chose this particular game to start Ur midfield agenda all over again.


I've watched all our matches this season and I can tell u for free that if we still had Sokaratis, Luiz, mustafi, Chambers, Bellerin as part of our defence we won't be close to where we are today. Those guys have failed us so much in the past for me not to know what they are capable of. Those guys were being stylishly replaced instead of u to siddon and look u were busy with Ur midfield agenda.

Almost nothing was done to the midfield but much was done to the defence, now see us doing well. How u think u can still continue with that Ur midfield agenda is still a mystery sha

Here we go again
I was only attending to jodera post
I didn't even know I shouldn't have talk about it today

Roland17:
It must be Ramsdale that is helping the back 4 to keep the line.
It must be Ramsdale that is telling the defenders when to step higher up and when to stay
It must be Ramsdale that okays for one defender to join the attack and for the other to sit back
It must be Ramsdale that coordinates and communicate situational defending.
We love Ramsdale, he is part of the defending unit and has been spectacular but there is no crime in admitting Gabu is leading that defense.
Every defensive unit has their leader, is our Ramsdale?

You can never say you know
Going by what I saw today, ramsdale was more vocal
He was outspoken especially when Watford wee getting at him
I can't remember if I gave seen anything like that in arsenal

Roland17:
O yes anyone can and that is why we paraded clowns with self destructive buttons all over their body. Partey/ESR/ Odegaard we’re frequent starters last season when we were batting relegation at one point before finishing 10th… No be so? So what changed?

When ESR and odeegaard came in everything changed
Have you forgotten??

iamoyindamola:
You can never say you know
Going by what I saw today, ramsdale was more vocal
He was outspoken especially when Watford wee getting at him
I can't remember if I gave seen anything like that in arsenal

At this point, I have to ask, Wetin Angel Gabu do you? Ah ahhnnn! E snatch your babe? Abi pesin wen be Gabu snatch your babe? Chisos!!!

iamoyindamola:

He was surplus to requirements last season cos he was error prone too
Let me remind you he dumped us out of the FA cup last season, he improve this season

The fact that he's capable of Improving is commendable. What about those clowns u like to Stan, why didn't Mustafi improve? Papasthapopulous nko? Luiz àgbà clown nko?

Mustafi's contract at arsenal was terminated at arsenal after so disastrous performances. Let me also remind u that they used egg to pursue the weyrey and mecho Kola after they relegated Shackle in Germany.

Shey na those kind of players u want make we pack midfielders dey sign and leave them.ro continue in their uselessness?

iamoyindamola:
Here we go again
I was only attending to jodera post
I didn't even know I shouldn't have talk about it today

As u come don talk am nko bayi? Na to finish wetin u start o

Roland17:
At this point, I have to ask, Wetin Angel Gabu do you? Ah ahhnnn! E snatch your babe? Abi pesin wen be Gabu snatch your babe? Chisos!!!

I swear I like him but you guys are making him so special or extra ordinary
No be wetin saliba they do for French ligue
The guy is good no doubt but he's also prone to mistake the same mistake the clowns commit and we go for their heads.

BlueRayDick:
The fact that he's capable of Improving is commendable. What about those clowns u like to Stan, why didn't Mustafi improve? Papasthapopulous nko? Luiz àgbà clown nko?

Mustafi's contract at arsenal was terminated at arsenal after so disastrous performances. Let me also remind u that they used egg to pursue the weyrey and mecho Kola after they relegated Shackle in Germany.

Shey na those kind of players u want make we pack midfielders dey sign and leave them.ro continue in their uselessness?

Haba why are you tagging me with Papa and kola
I only Stan mustafi biko

This westham win just make the job hard for us in anfield
Which kind wahala be this, the negative goal difference will likely return now

Roland17:
None of the listed players played for Arsenal..

It pains me a lot when this argument pop up am battling with a big boil on my forehead which is giving me a serious headache I will have love to put mouth.

These boys are enjoying their days let them enjoy. I was even surprised none mention about not playing in Europe which added to this squad prowess, Arteta having time to implement his last year failed tactics.

No matter the points the both parties pen out we won’t still agree with each other because of the hidden agenda.

Truly the defense have done a good job but I will give it those clowns we let go because it’s not easy to switch from one pattern to another pattern after reaching one peak or almost at one peak that’s why I keep respecting Luiz, Leno, Auba and Laca that’s why I don’t abuse them much it’s not easy to be sincere.

You people talking defense improved why won’t they, imagine playing from the back style pattern introduced right from Emery’s regime till Arteta regime without improving is a failure on the players and not the coach Leno got it wrong because he was not so comfortable starting a play from the back and or he dropped form.

Kudos to the defense but neglecting the midfield is a total hypocrisy.

Blueraydick, all our midfielders stepped up their game and despite stepping up we still see some errors in them even the so called Partey was once criticized here this season.

I wish we are in Europe make fatigue set in, this squad being worn out to face a fresh legs of Leicester and Watford if we gonna still have this convo.

Now, to support my midfield agenda which I didn’t even pushed for, Lacazette was to midfield and we all notice this in our matches he started with the way he presses high, now imagine the likes of bloody Xhaka, inexperienced ESR, new comer Odegaard on & off willock any where belle face Nketia brought their useless form of last season to this season you no go dey over hype this defense by the time opposition wan kill them with mad pressing.

Akinbahm:
It pains me a lot when this argument pop up am battling with a big boil on my forehead which is giving me a serious headache I will have love to put mouth.

These boys are enjoying their days let them enjoy. I was even surprised none mention about not playing in Europe which added to this squad prowess, Arteta having time to implement his last year failed tactics.

No matter the points the both parties pen out we won’t still agree with each other because of the hidden agenda.

Truly the defense have done a good job but I will give it those clowns we let go because it’s not easy to switch from one pattern to another pattern after reaching one peak or almost at one peak that’s why I keep respecting Luiz, Leno, Auba and Laca that’s why I don’t abuse them much it’s not easy to be sincere.

You people talking defense improved why won’t they, imagine playing from the back style pattern introduced right from Emery’s regime till Arteta regime without improving is a failure on the players and not the coach Leno got it wrong because he was not so comfortable starting a play from the back and or he dropped form.

Kudos to the defense but neglecting the midfield is a total hypocrisy.

In one breath u agree the defence in doing a good job and then u end us saying u give to the clowns we let go....how?

It's like most of u people here forget things too quickly and then u assume others do too. This is not the first season we are playing from the back. When we beat man city in Arteta's first meeting with Pep, played from the back in the build-up to our goal. We did same against Liverpool too.

What u need to know is that those matches had to force the coach play 3 CB's because judging by the quality of players we had in our books playing the CB's would've been disastrous. Now that the coach is confident in the players he had at the back he's using 2 CB's who have proven to be reliable thereby leaving the midfield and attack ro do their thing.

Abeg just appreciate the defence for their recent good showings and move on.

Akinbahm:
It pains me a lot when this argument pop up am battling with a big boil on my forehead which is giving me a serious headache I will have love to put mouth.

These boys are enjoying their days let them enjoy. I was even surprised none mention about not playing in Europe which added to this squad prowess, Arteta having time to implement his last year failed tactics.

No matter the points the both parties pen out we won’t still agree with each other because of the hidden agenda.

Truly the defense have done a good job but I will give it those clowns we let go because it’s not easy to switch from one pattern to another pattern after reaching one peak or almost at one peak that’s why I keep respecting Luiz, Leno, Auba and Laca that’s why I don’t abuse them much it’s not easy to be sincere.

You people talking defense improved why won’t they, imagine playing from the back style pattern introduced right from Emery’s regime till Arteta regime without improving is a failure on the players and not the coach Leno got it wrong because he was not so comfortable starting a play from the back and or he dropped form.

Kudos to the defense but neglecting the midfield is a total hypocrisy.

No vess.. I no go argue again after this one. Depending on the size and if it has pus, use warm compress on your forehead, it also helps to prevent infection to the area. Keep the area clean and avoid touching it often. It should go after 2/3 days if you are consistent with the warm compress.

Baba, I don't think anyone is neglecting the midfield here but it is you guys that are trying to tell us the defense has been irrelevant in the scheme of things. We are saying this current Arsenal side, this season, is riding on the stability of the defense, including the goalie. At different times, I have read guys call Partey inconsistent, Lokonga too raw, loses the ball too often, does not tackle, ESR not mature enough and after scoring we are playing, Odegaard is not good enough, we should have gotten Maddison. These guys are the same cats from last season, the bigeest difference on this roster/ first 11 is the back 4 and that is where we have earned most of our points.

Roland17:
We are praising our defenders as being the stability behind the run this season. We are parading pretty much the same midfielders whether formation changed or not, so what’s the difference?

And neglecting the improvement on the midfielders, less matches being played and experience gained.

Akinbahm:
Blueraydick, all our midfielders stepped up their game and despite stepping up we still see some errors in them even the so called Partey was once criticized here this season.

I wish we are in Europe make fatigue set in, this squad being worn out to face a fresh legs of Leicester and Watford if we gonna still have this convo.

Now, to support my midfield agenda which I didn’t even pushed for, Lacazette was to midfield and we all notice this in our matches he started with the way he presses high, now imagine the likes of bloody Xhaka, inexperienced ESR, new comer Odegaard on & off willock any where belle face Nketia brought their useless form of last season to this season you no go dey over hype this defense by the time opposition wan kill them with mad pressing.

This is just whataboutism and nothing more. We are talking of what is currently happening here and u are talking of " imagine"....Like seriously?

Arsenal is number 5 on the log due their good runs of games in the month of spetember and October. Their best player in the month of September is a defender, the best player for the month of October is a goalkeeper. But we should give the midfield full kudos for our turn in fortune this season..

Na wa ó, the kind level agenda dey push people to these days.

I hear say na bàbà Wenger give the boys inspiration for this celebration

[quote author=Roland17 post=107417146][/quote]Thanks Man, I personally suggested that because we have some players we can rely on at the back without spending much the likes of Tierney, Saliba, Mavro, Mari, Luiz Belle we can manage and fill the midfield void.

The suggestion was made because Arsenal won’t go out there and spend once like Man city or Chelsea.

We gonna have this convo later once again thank u very much.

BlueRayDick:
In one breath u agree the defence in doing a good job and then u end us saying u give to the clowns we let go....how?

It's like most of u people here forget things too quickly and then u assume others do too. This is not the first season we are playing from the back. When we beat man city in Arteta's first meeting with Pep, played from the back in the build-up to our goal. We did same against Liverpool too.

What u need to know is that those matches had to force the coach play 3 CB's because judging by the quality of players we had in our books playing the CB's would've been disastrous. Now that the coach is confident in the players he had at the back he's using 2 CB's who have proven to be reliable thereby leaving the midfield and attack ro do their thing.

Abeg just appreciate the defence for their recent good showings and move on.

Baba, I admit the defense is stabilized to some extent compare to before and remember Rome wasn’t built in a day in other words the defense building started from the clowns kudos to them also.

Let’s have this argument later pls.

Akinbahm:
Thanks Man, I personally suggested that because we have some players we can rely on at the back without spending much the likes of Tierney, Saliba, Mavro, Mari, Luiz Belle we can manage and fill the midfield void.

The suggestion was made because Arsenal won’t go out there and spend once like Man city or Chelsea.

We gonna have this convo later once again thank u very much.

Then they tagged them clowns, all we said is bring back saliba and Dino
Sell them mustafi and co, leave the manageable ones like holding,chambers and Mari
I'm tired abeg