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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 5:59pm On Nov 25, 2021
Meanwhile, in Mozambique...

SAAF Oryx crews and their machines...

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 6:00pm On Nov 25, 2021
...SAAF Oryx crews are humans too.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Stargate254: 6:01pm On Nov 25, 2021
KDF marksmanship training Members of the Somalia National Army in Southern Somalia.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nemesis4you: 6:02pm On Nov 25, 2021
Lurker4Long:

grin grin grin


You see I am getting old and possibly little bit smarter as a result

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 6:06pm On Nov 25, 2021
Nemesis4you:


You see I am getting old and possibly little bit smarter as a result
This site and what passes for discourse here... shocked

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nemesis4you: 6:10pm On Nov 25, 2021
Just musing - is there any possible connection however small to the unfolding situation in Ethiopia with Ethiopian governments stance on the Renaissance dam not too long ago

A regional militia managing to gather the firepower for a near conventional warfare against the better resources of a national government

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 6:10pm On Nov 25, 2021
For those interested in info from Mozambique, not spin doctoring by Total and its agents:
https://www.caboligado.com/reports/cabo-ligado-weekly-1-7-november-2021

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nemesis4you: 6:27pm On Nov 25, 2021
Lurker4Long:

what passes for discourse here... shocked


Aberrations are never the norm , thought I admit the some of the aberrations are potent enough to make one faint , anyways no one including me is perfect , hopefully everyone including me will learn in time

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nemesis4you: 6:55pm On Nov 25, 2021
Offtopic

Don't generally recommend videos but if you want to , do watch this till end, won't regret spending the time


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uD4izuDMUQA&vl=en

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 9:28pm On Nov 25, 2021
Nemesis4you:
Just musing - is there any possible connection however small to the unfolding situation in Ethiopia with Ethiopian governments stance on the Renaissance dam not too long ago

A regional militia managing to gather the firepower for a near conventional warfare against the better resources of a national government
The problem is with first principles: the Tigrayans are neither regional nor a rebel militia. Ever since they overthrew the Dirge and Mengistu, they've been running Ethiopia until they put Abiy Ahmed in power, when he turned against them.
They are right royal arseholes, and so are all the parties in that conflict.
The Egyptians would love to stir, but all Ethiopian sides to the conflict are nationalists who believe in the GERD.

Far more interesting will be what Eritrea - and its sponsor the UAE - does.
East Africa hasn't been this interesting since 1885.

https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2021-11-22-four-scenarios-and-the-funerals-ethiopian-powder-keg-is-ready-to-explode-in-tragic-ways/

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 9:33pm On Nov 25, 2021
dragon2:

The military practically runs the economy. Is there any business without ties to the military? It's not healthy at all,such a situation stifles innovation as you need ties to succeed. Need a bakery? Call the army.

Yep. And people on this thread are bamboozled by the trinkets. What is it the ancient Romans said about bread and circuses!?
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kikuyu1(m): 9:56pm On Nov 25, 2021
Bleep
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kikuyu1(m): 10:06pm On Nov 25, 2021
Learn to look deeper at photos! On the surface this is off topic but looking closely you can clearly identify the better force.

A Brit para with an Argie POW. If there was a war on this planet the instigator SHOULD have won it was the Falklands war. [b]So many strategic and tactical blunders were committed by the Argies you'd have thought GHQ Rawalpindi was DIRECTLY advising them ! [/b]The battleground was on their doorstep making logistic support MUCH easier and they had the all the time to prepared for P2P conventional manoeuvre warfare yet failed so miserably the war is studied in military academies as a case study on "How NOT to FK up on the Battle field."

- their Air/Navy/Infantry failed
to coordinate ops resulting in lack of follow up after the Argie Air force sank 3 RN ships badly damaging another 3
-despite the short distance from home bases they were poorly supported logistically
- the Inf though well dug in, simply sat in their foxholes and emplacements waiting for the enemy and the Paras, Marines, Welsh/Irish Guards and Gurkhas obliged and routed them inflicting heavy casualties
- cold weather gear was lacking
- Britain had 2 carriers, the Invincible and Hermes and had ACTUALLY agreed to sell the latter to India when the war began but formal handover was a few months away

Back to the pic: observe closely. The POWs laces are improperly tied like a civvy. The buckle is non regs as is the sweater,likely looted from a home.
The pic declares the winner.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Faithful007: 10:45pm On Nov 25, 2021
Stormtrooper11:

Damn. I can't explain this to you. You're pro-american. I won't be able to convince you.
Lol smiley smiley

I'm very open minded as well, and willing to hear facts on the other side.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 11:29pm On Nov 25, 2021
Egyptian Navy Mistral-class LHD ENS Gamal Abdel Nasser and Bergamini-class FFG (FREMM IT) ENS Bernees in Greece.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by EMW01: 11:55am On Nov 26, 2021
KDF training their future enemies.

Reminiscent of the 2009 -2010 period when kenya trained 000s of Somali troops who would later alshabaab
[quote author=Stargate254 post=107958636][/quote]

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kikuyu1(m): 4:09pm On Nov 26, 2021
RiceProducers:

Nigeria won't buy the sanctions vulnerable Turkish helicopter or the untidily developed Indian Chopper that cannot be supported with enough spares and maintenance. They will use a phantom airbus chopper acquisition to flash the Americans.
Eventually they will buy US made AH1Zs

Guys say THE STRANGEST ishyt I swear! You've proof ofc?

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kikuyu1(m): 4:13pm On Nov 26, 2021
Lurker4Long:
...SAAF Oryx crews are humans too.

Are those are the giant Moz tiger prawns, the size of lobsters? You wouldn't believe the cost by the time it reaches your Nairobi dinner plate!

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by LTGEN: 5:56pm On Nov 26, 2021
hmmm
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 6:00pm On Nov 26, 2021
Nigerian made 45 meters Seaward Defence Boat 3.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by LTGEN: 6:08pm On Nov 26, 2021
kikuyu1:


Guys say THE STRANGEST ishyt I swear! You've proof ofc?
Nigeria as confirmed by the Turkish embassy has signed an MOU to procure 2 OPV warships.
Nigeria has indicated an interest in acquiring both armed and unarmed drones.
Nigeria has indicated the interest in buying assault helicopters ......from Russia, the fear of sanctions from the USA has put a damper on things,
Nigeria will turn to TURKEY because it presents a sanctions-proof alternative ...... if they can prove they have fixed their engine problems.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 6:12pm On Nov 26, 2021
Nigeria's leading armoured vehicle manufacturer to exhibit at Edex2021, Egypt.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 6:57am On Nov 27, 2021
Nigerian Navy SBS training alongside Royal Navy's 42 Commando unit aboard HMS Trent.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Fidha254(m): 4:53pm On Nov 27, 2021
I know people here have mixed feelings about women on the front lines but I'm going to post this anyways.

KDF all women team called FET (Female engagement team) operating from Dhobley, Somalia.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSS5ovgho3E

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kikuyu2: 5:04pm On Nov 27, 2021
Nemesis4you:
Just musing - is there any possible connection however small to the unfolding situation in Ethiopia with Ethiopian governments stance on the Renaissance dam not too long ago

A regional militia managing to gather the firepower for a near conventional warfare against the better resources of a national government

Imo, yes. Most people under estimate Egyptian feelings over the Nile: to them it's an EXISTENTIAL CRISIS.
IIRC, Boutros Boutros Ghali, ex UN head even threatened to go to war over the Nile treaty in the 2000s.

I just saw this vid

[url]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaO1oqkkySQ/url]
Sending a drone over a rival nations embassy. WTF does that!? Only your Western neighbours. If people knew half the deliberate provocation ishyt they do...

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by lebuhsi(m): 6:02pm On Nov 27, 2021
Nemesis4you:
Offtopic

Don't generally recommend videos but if you want to , do watch this till end, won't regret spending the time


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uD4izuDMUQA&vl=en


Thank you for this, this was very satisfying to watch

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Stargate254: 5:49am On Nov 28, 2021
EMW01:
KDF training their future enemies.

Reminiscent of the 2009 -2010 period when kenya trained 000s of Somali troops who would later alshabaab

Yeah, I thought about it too when I saw the pictures. But the 2009 move was a cluster fvck, , there was no structure, we just trained ppl and sent them back. But this time there is a legitimate govt with its own structures and has been fighting the enemy for some time now.
And what choice does KDF have. If you listened to the CDF of KDF interview on how the recent maritime ruling by ICJ will affect KDF operations and relations in Somalia going forward .. you could deduce that his thinking was right now Alkebab is the real and current enemy ...
It's better to deal with an aggressive but legitimate and conventional state/nation than ragtag militia that will use any means necessary to achieve their goals including targeting civilians.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by giles14(m): 7:20am On Nov 28, 2021
Lurker4Long:

The problem is with first principles: the Tigrayans are neither regional nor a rebel militia. Ever since they overthrew the Dirge and Mengistu, they've been running Ethiopia until they put Abiy Ahmed in power, when he turned against them.
They are right royal arseholes, and so are all the parties in that conflict.
The Egyptians would love to stir, but all Ethiopian sides to the conflict are nationalists who believe in the GERD.
Far more interesting will be what Eritrea - and its sponsor the UAE - does.
East Africa hasn't been this interesting since 1885.

https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2021-11-22-four-scenarios-and-the-funerals-ethiopian-powder-keg-is-ready-to-explode-in-tragic-ways/
Just hope with the coming to play of the UAE the conflict don't turn and have a religious undertone.

I just hope the Eritrean Tigrayans don't join their Ethiopian brothers in this war it gonna be very bloody.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by dragon2(m): 9:35am On Nov 28, 2021
If true,another reason to be wary of the China debt honey trap.

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China To Take Over Uganda’s Lone International Airport Over Failure To Repay Loan
The Ugandan government has lost its most important airport to Chinese loan…....

By
Abdulyassar Abdulhamid
Fri, 26 Nov 2021 13:40:58 GMT

The Ugandan government is on the verge of losing its major airport to China for failing to repay a loan.

The government has failed to reverse a loan agreement with the Chinese which had repayment conditions of attaching its only airport.

Entebbe International Airport and other Ugandan assets were attached and agreed to be taken over by Chinese lenders upon arbitration of the loan.

According reports, President Yoweri Museveni had sent a delegation to Beijing hoping to renegotiate the toxic clauses.

The visit was unsuccessful as China authorities refused to allow any alteration in the original terms of the deal.

The Uganda government, represented by the finance ministry and the Civil Aviation Authority at the time, had on 17 November 2015, signed an agreement with Export-Import Bank of China (Exim Bank) to borrow U$207 million at two per cent upon disbursement; with a maturity period of 20 years including a seven-year grace period.

The deal signed with the Chinese lenders virtually means Uganda “surrendered” its most prominent airport to China.

The Uganda Civil Aviation Authority (UCAA) said some provisions in the Financing Agreement expose Entebbe International Airport and other Ugandan assets to be attached and taken over by Chinese lenders upon arbitration in Beijing.

The rejection of Uganda’s plea to renegotiate the toxic clauses of the 2015 loan has left Museveni’s administration in limbo.

According to the Daily Monitor of Uganda, the Ugandan government waived international immunity in the agreements it signed to secure the loans, exposing Entebbe International Airport to take over without international protection.

Last week, Uganda’s Finance Minister Matia Kasaija apologised to parliament for the “mishandling of the $207 million loan” from the China Exim Bank to expand Entebbe International Airport.

“I apologise that we shouldn’t have accepted some of the clauses,” Kasaija told members of the committee in response to questions asked by the legislators.

There were also questions over the interest rate that was set by the China Exim Bank for the funds placed in an off-shore Standard Bank account that was used as collateral for the project.

Built in 1972, Entebbe International Airport handles over 1,9 million passengers per year.

Editor’s note: This story has been modified to reflect that China is on the verge of taking over the airport
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 9:39am On Nov 28, 2021
dragon2:
If true,another reason to be wary of the China debt honey trap.

Home - Dailytrust

ort

This report has since been debunked by both the Ugandan government and the Chinese government.

Chinese loans are no traps. The US government also owes china more than 1 Trillion dollars in loans.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by lebuhsi(m): 9:59am On Nov 28, 2021
dragon2:
If true,another reason to be wary of the China debt honey trap.

Home - Dailytrust

China To Take Over Uganda’s Lone International Airport Over Failure To Repay Loan
The Ugandan government has lost its most important airport to Chinese loan…....

By
Abdulyassar Abdulhamid
Fri, 26 Nov 2021 13:40:58 GMT

The Ugandan government is on the verge of losing its major airport to China for failing to repay a loan.

The government has failed to reverse a loan agreement with the Chinese which had repayment conditions of attaching its only airport.

Entebbe International Airport and other Ugandan assets were attached and agreed to be taken over by Chinese lenders upon arbitration of the loan.

According reports, President Yoweri Museveni had sent a delegation to Beijing hoping to renegotiate the toxic clauses.

The visit was unsuccessful as China authorities refused to allow any alteration in the original terms of the deal.

The Uganda government, represented by the finance ministry and the Civil Aviation Authority at the time, had on 17 November 2015, signed an agreement with Export-Import Bank of China (Exim Bank) to borrow U$207 million at two per cent upon disbursement; with a maturity period of 20 years including a seven-year grace period.

The deal signed with the Chinese lenders virtually means Uganda “surrendered” its most prominent airport to China.

The Uganda Civil Aviation Authority (UCAA) said some provisions in the Financing Agreement expose Entebbe International Airport and other Ugandan assets to be attached and taken over by Chinese lenders upon arbitration in Beijing.

The rejection of Uganda’s plea to renegotiate the toxic clauses of the 2015 loan has left Museveni’s administration in limbo.

According to the Daily Monitor of Uganda, the Ugandan government waived international immunity in the agreements it signed to secure the loans, exposing Entebbe International Airport to take over without international protection.

Last week, Uganda’s Finance Minister Matia Kasaija apologised to parliament for the “mishandling of the $207 million loan” from the China Exim Bank to expand Entebbe International Airport.

“I apologise that we shouldn’t have accepted some of the clauses,” Kasaija told members of the committee in response to questions asked by the legislators.

There were also questions over the interest rate that was set by the China Exim Bank for the funds placed in an off-shore Standard Bank account that was used as collateral for the project.

Built in 1972, Entebbe International Airport handles over 1,9 million passengers per year.

Editor’s note: This story has been modified to reflect that China is on the verge of taking over the airport

If a sovereign country can't pay back a <$300m loan, 2% interest rate, with a 7-year moratorium. Then I don't know why they should be collecting credit in the first place

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Tinfoil: 11:32am On Nov 28, 2021
Can't blame China for a lack of foresight, corruption, poor negotiating skills,... By Uganda

dragon2:
If true,another reason to be wary of the China debt honey trap.

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China To Take Over Uganda’s Lone International Airport Over Failure To Repay Loan
The Ugandan government has lost its most important airport to Chinese loan…....

By
Abdulyassar Abdulhamid
Fri, 26 Nov 2021 13:40:58 GMT

The Ugandan government is on the verge of losing its major airport to China for failing to repay a loan.

The government has failed to reverse a loan agreement with the Chinese which had repayment conditions of attaching its only airport.

Entebbe International Airport and other Ugandan assets were attached and agreed to be taken over by Chinese lenders upon arbitration of the loan.

According reports, President Yoweri Museveni had sent a delegation to Beijing hoping to renegotiate the toxic clauses.

The visit was unsuccessful as China authorities refused to allow any alteration in the original terms of the deal.

The Uganda government, represented by the finance ministry and the Civil Aviation Authority at the time, had on 17 November 2015, signed an agreement with Export-Import Bank of China (Exim Bank) to borrow U$207 million at two per cent upon disbursement; with a maturity period of 20 years including a seven-year grace period.

The deal signed with the Chinese lenders virtually means Uganda “surrendered” its most prominent airport to China.

The Uganda Civil Aviation Authority (UCAA) said some provisions in the Financing Agreement expose Entebbe International Airport and other Ugandan assets to be attached and taken over by Chinese lenders upon arbitration in Beijing.

The rejection of Uganda’s plea to renegotiate the toxic clauses of the 2015 loan has left Museveni’s administration in limbo.

According to the Daily Monitor of Uganda, the Ugandan government waived international immunity in the agreements it signed to secure the loans, exposing Entebbe International Airport to take over without international protection.

Last week, Uganda’s Finance Minister Matia Kasaija apologised to parliament for the “mishandling of the $207 million loan” from the China Exim Bank to expand Entebbe International Airport.

“I apologise that we shouldn’t have accepted some of the clauses,” Kasaija told members of the committee in response to questions asked by the legislators.

There were also questions over the interest rate that was set by the China Exim Bank for the funds placed in an off-shore Standard Bank account that was used as collateral for the project.

Built in 1972, Entebbe International Airport handles over 1,9 million passengers per year.

Editor’s note: This story has been modified to reflect that China is on the verge of taking over the airport

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