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OJEEMAH:
Get your facts right. Messi was the first to win 4 consecutive UCL top scorer.......did his goals against Ajax and Lyon qualify them?

and what happened to Porto??

all underdogs in the UCL

Ajax defeated real madrid sane season and were only seconds to the final, lyon defeated mancity 3.1 that same year , Porto were the only team that defeated Chelsea last season... at least Porto a former double champion and ajax a former quadruple champion better pass roma that has never won it b4 disgracing messi and barca 3.0 , pasg wey never win am b4 disgracing him yet again 5.2 ... I will rather loose to lyon , ajax and Porto on aggregate that to be disgraced 8.2 bayern, 5.2 psg, 4.0 Liverpool , 3.0 roma, 3.0 juve , 2.0 atletico....all back to back to back to back to back ... same teams Ronaldo annihilated in his time at madrid when he was messis age

ifiokjohn:
atlesst he wasn't winning 2 or 3-0 from his home and came to lose those advantages.. ( Liverpool, Roma). Do you think if Juve was the one winning 2-0 or 3-0 from home they will come to lose 3-2 or 4-3? No, it will never happen.. Ronaldo go kill himself for there to make sure he scord just one goal to spoil the show... Let's see an example... When Bayern came to Madrid home after Madrid was beating them 2-0 from away, Bayern scored 2 and were gunning for the third till Ronaldo scored and spoilt the party. Unfortunately Messi couldn't do such.
Now let's go back to Juve vs Atletico Madrid or maybe Madrid vs Wolfburg. That's what a serious player does.. he changes the tie... And against Porto, he was pulled down in the penalty box but wasn't awarded... Even Var leta came out to say they made a mistake. But no problem...so what u saying

U even forgot the juve vs Madrid game...after scoring 2ice in the first leg to win 3.0 at juve ...juve came to Madrid and scored 3 as well till Ronaldo rescued Madrid by scoring one goal in the last minute.... go and also check out against shalke in the round of 16... after he scored in the first leg and they won 2.0 ... shalke came to Madrid and scored 4 goals , luckily for Madrid, they had Ronaldo that scored 2 goals and a 3rd to knock out shalke... only in 2012 against barca and last season against Porto were the only 2 times Ronaldo failed to scored on both legs when he got knocked out ...

paulolee:
my guy stop all dese table shufting....d point is dt he cnt do it alone...back den it wad hard n now he cant even try...
make PSG catch united for knock out n u go understand better..
no matter how good is he, he still neees a good supporting cast n dts was d main factor for his madruid success but una de talk asif he can do wonders with a bad squad n dts why i always de attack una

E go shock u...e b like say u never research on the man Ragnick

ifiokjohn:
He should hide in the box infact sleepwith the goal keeper if that will give him a goal against Roma, Liverpool etc. Messi scored two goals at home and failed when it matter most...Ronaldo will never maybe if he had scored one goal at home and the other in anfield maybe Barca would have qualified.... People have lost finals...nothing dey there. By the way, it was only in 2009 final Messi beat him..he wasn't in man united in 2011.

3-2 is is not really an advantage when we talk about football. But 2-0...3-0 is. Ronaldo will never let that happen.


Ronaldo didn't just do it against those teams... He did it on their way to winning Euros for Portugal. Scored 2 goals after falling behind by one goal to send Portugal to the semi or quarter final of the competition. He did it for Portugal after falling behind against Sweden 2-0 to make it 3-2. .. he did it against mighty Spain by scoring 3 to make it 3-3.
Atalanta vs Manchester United, Villarreal vs United and many more

Show me where Messi have done all those or you want to say Messi team don't fall behind?..



I want to ask you a question... Remove your sentiment or hate for Ronaldo and answer sincerely.
If you're a coach and your team is loosing 1-0 or 2-0 and you have two players on the bench, Ronaldo and Messi... And you only have one sub left and you need a player who can score for you " assuming the ones you have in the field have been missing goals"... Which will you bring in to help you draw or win the game.. Ronaldo or Messi? Be sincere..


Cause I'm sure even Guardiola will go for Ronaldo ...many coaches will go for ronaldo.

U have spoken well...they will never want to admit it...so as the media... Ronaldo has over turned score lines in crucial games in the past... how many has messi done apart from the game against Milan and dead arsenal...2 teams that were no more at their peak... Ronaldo did it against Munich, man u, atletico, Wolfburg, barca , juve , city

JohnnyPalmer:
It's the way you lie just to make Ronaldo look so good

You are just a pathetic old fool

Ronaldo has 18 penalties
You forgot he scored 2 against Luxembourg
Is lord Luxembourg a joke to you

Ronaldo has taken more penalties when it comes to National team
It's not Messi's fault he has an higher conversion rate at National team level

You also selectively limited your arguments to ucl, just to favour Ronaldo, let's talk about the leagues in the last 5,6 seasons back and see who relies more on penalties to stat pad

U are a bloody liar...its 16 ( the Luxembourg inclusive) and Ronaldo has a better rate when it comes to penalties... messi has played more penalties than Ronaldo...u messi fans are known for liessssss ...

Kingcalls:
U are sooo foolish and stupid ....the thing pain u dieeee say they have exposed ur fraud ...and it has shown how foolish people like u and ur likes have been over the years deluding that the fraud is better than the only Emperor ...

Messi can never ever ever get to Ronaldos level... messi played in the best European team in the past 50 years, only real madrid of the 50s cud match barcas team of 2008 to 2012 ... same time Spain won Euros , world cup and euros again ... the fraud was thriving on the best midfield that ever existed, iniesta, xavi, prime busquet , mascherano, the best RB Dani Alves, and one of the best CB ever Puyol .... Ronaldo never had such players.... the only reason he won bk to bk to bk titles ( something that great barca side and messi cudnt do) was all down to his individual brilliance... he was sooo good at Madrid that if he played for barca instead of madrid , and messi played for madrid instead if barca , barca wud hv won at least 7 CL titles and madrid no go see 1... for those that have functional brains , it's glaring that Messi can never achieve what Ronaldo has achieved... if he likes let him win 10 balon dors .... Ronaldo will still be the greatest of the 2 because records dont lie.... cruyff and his likes won multiple balon dors but maradona and pele that dint win one are the ones we celebrate today.... champions league goals , are of higher value than league goals .... so carry ur European golden boot go sidon for pkotokpoto ..... scoring bayern, Milan, City, Chelsea, juve , psg, inter, Liverpool, atletico, barca, man u and taking the spot as highest ever is way better than scoring getafe , levante, sevilla , villareal , valencia , having only real madrid and atletico as the strong teams ...
U must be chronically deluded to compare league with champions league.... if league is senatorial election, champions league is gubernatorial election dummy... but u are soooo dumb to realise this... keep on decieving ur deluded mind.... one league goal in 4 months in farmers league

Asin.... If na cr7 get 1 league goal for that farmer's league, they will start criticising him.
I remember them bashing cr7 during his first season at juve because he didn't finish top scorer that season. Now Messi is being outscored by over 30+players in the ligue 1.
See ehn it's not easy being cr7

Bigiyo:
Asin.... If na cr7 get 1 league goal for that farmer's league, they will start criticising him.
I remember them bashing cr7 during his first season at juve because he didn't finish top scorer that season. Now Messi is being outscored by over 30+players in the ligue 1.
See ehn it's not easy being cr7

They are hypocrites...now they are saying messi is not a goal scorer, that he plays in the midfield and that he is a playmaker and lays passes

Kingcalls:
U have spoken well...they will never want to admit it...so as the media... Ronaldo has over turned score lines in crucial games in the past... how many has messi done apart from the game against Milan and dead arsenal...2 teams that were no more at their peak... Ronaldo did it against Munich, man u, atletico, Wolfburg, barca , juve , city

Simple. Thank you bro

Kingcalls:
U even forgot the juve vs Madrid game...after scoring 2ice in the first leg to win 3.0 at juve ...juve came to Madrid and scored 3 as well till Ronaldo rescued Madrid by scoring one goal in the last minute.... go and also check out against shalke in the round of 16... after he scored in the first leg and they won 2.0 ... shalke came to Madrid and scored 4 goals , luckily for Madrid, they had Ronaldo that scored 2 goals and a 3rd to knock out shalke... only in 2012 against barca and last season against Porto were the only 2 times Ronaldo failed to scored on both legs when he got knocked out ...

True talk bro. No mind them

Kingcalls:
U even forgot the juve vs Madrid game...after scoring 2ice in the first leg to win 3.0 at juve ...juve came to Madrid and scored 3 as well till Ronaldo rescued Madrid by scoring one goal in the last minute.... go and also check out against shalke in the round of 16... after he scored in the first leg and they won 2.0 ... shalke came to Madrid and scored 4 goals , luckily for Madrid, they had Ronaldo that scored 2 goals and a 3rd to knock out shalke... only in 2012 against barca and last season against Porto were the only 2 times Ronaldo failed to scored on both legs when he got knocked out ...

True talk bro. No mind them.

JohnnyPalmer:
Guardiola doesn't rate Ronaldo

Messi has scored twice more than Ronaldo with both coming from the bench
Stats don't lie, so your analogy is flawed

I need a goal, I will bring on Messi

Another lie and Myth Pendu fans wants us to believe

Oga that's not the question I ask you. It simple question. Due to both antecedents... Which of them do you think can rescue you a point or a win in a game you're losing.

Give me instances of Games Messi have done it...

Ronaldo have done it so many times.. Messi hasn't

Kingcalls:
U are a bloody liar...its 16 ( the Luxembourg inclusive) and Ronaldo has a better rate when it comes to penalties... messi has played more penalties than Ronaldo...u messi fans are known for liessssss ...

Checked I agree its 16
My bad

But then you are a liar for saying Ronaldo has better conversion rate at international level

ifiokjohn:
Oga that's not the question I ask you. It simple question. Due to both antecedents... Which of them do you think can rescue you a point or a win in a game you're losing.

Give me instances of Games Messi have done it...

Ronaldo have done it so many times.. Messi hasn't

I don't argue with dumb people

I showed you stats, you are here arguing against stats

Messi is more than twice likely to score than Ronaldo with both of them coming in as a substitute and that's a fact

Despite one being a number 9

There was a game against either Villareal or Sevilla where the opposing players were begging Messi to take it easy while warning up on bench

Barca was loosing, he came on scored 1 or 2 goals and barca won the game

JohnnyPalmer:
Checked I agree its 16
My bad

But then you are a liar for saying Ronaldo has better conversion rate at international level

I meant conversion rate in general...tot u said messi has lesser penalties... 18 penalties in 80 games
.. 62 non penalty goals
..Ronaldo 99 non penalty goals and will be the first man to score 100 non penalty goals

Kingcalls:
I meant conversion rate in general...tot u said messi has lesser penalties... 18 penalties in 80 games
.. 62 non penalty goals
..Ronaldo 99 non penalty goals and will be the first man to score 100 non penalty goals

Maybe you should read properly next time

Before rushing to type

And forget all these International goal stats
If Messi was facing the likes of Luxembourg, Andorra, San Marino he would have scored way more

Harry Kane scored 4 first half goals against a Country that only has 2 professional players

He was substituted, maybe he would have ended up scoring another 3 second half goals

Mbappe scored 4 also not long ago

Nothing special

JohnnyPalmer:
Maybe you should read properly next time

Before rushing to type

And forget all these International goal stats
If Messi was facing the likes of Luxembourg, Andorra, San Marino he would have scored way more

Harry Kane scored 4 first half goals against a Country that only has 2 professional players

He was substituted, maybe he would have ended up scoring another 3 second half goals

Mbappe scored 4 also not long ago

Nothing special

Kane scored 7 goals in two matches against Albania and San Marino that England scored 10-0, yet his premier league goal count is very very poor
If Messi had chosen Spain, Walai that dude would be on 200+ goals now

Kingcalls:
They are hypocrites...now they are saying messi is not a goal scorer, that he plays in the midfield and that he is a playmaker and lays passes

Messi fans ehnn...

JohnnyPalmer:
I don't argue with dumb people

I showed you stats, you are here arguing against stats

Messi is more than twice likely to score than Ronaldo with both of them coming in as a substitute and that's a fact

Despite one being a number 9

There was a game against either Villareal or Sevilla where the opposing players were begging Messi to take it easy while warning up on bench

Barca was loosing, he came on scored 1 or 2 goals and barca won the game

Oga important games not all those Nonsense you're spewing.

Have he changed the tie and qualified his team like Ronaldo did against Wolfburg, Atletico, Atletico again, Atalanta, Villarreal, shakaa O4, Roma, Villarreal again, Sweden, Spain, Bayern Munich, Bayern Munich again, Porto( at united) Lyon etc.
That's what I'm saying.
You can see I didn't added ordinary league matches because even Fernandez have come from bench to come and give an assist and scored when man united is loosing.
I'm talking important important matches..


I'm talking about real matches that keeps your team at the top of a group, or qualifies your team.

Come back to me if you can bring something like this for Messi..

Roma, Liverpool, Bayern Munich, etc all came to wop his ass

JohnnyPalmer:
I don't argue with dumb people

I showed you stats, you are here arguing against stats

Messi is more than twice likely to score than Ronaldo with both of them coming in as a substitute and that's a fact

Despite one being a number 9

There was a game against either Villareal or Sevilla where the opposing players were begging Messi to take it easy while warning up on bench

Barca was loosing, he came on scored 1 or 2 goals and barca won the game

Oga important games not all those Nonsense you're spewing.

Have he changed the tie and qualified his team like Ronaldo did against Wolfburg, Atletico, Atletico again, Atalanta, Villarreal, shakaa O4, Roma, Villarreal again, Sweden, Spain, Bayern Munich, Bayern Munich again, Porto( at united) Lyon etc.
That's what I'm saying.
You can see I didn't added ordinary league matches because even Fernandez have come from bench to come and give an assist and scored when man united is loosing.
I'm talking important important matches..


I'm talking about real matches that keeps your team at the top of a group, or qualifies your team.

Come back to me if you can bring something like this for Messi..

Roma, Liverpool, Bayern Munich, etc all came to wop his ass.

ifiokjohn:
Oga important games not all those Nonsense you're spewing.

Have he changed the tie and qualified his team like Ronaldo did against Wolfburg, Atletico, Atletico again, Atalanta, Villarreal, shakaa O4, Roma, Villarreal again, Sweden, Spain, Bayern Munich, Bayern Munich again, Porto( at united) Lyon etc.
That's what I'm saying.
You can see I didn't added ordinary league matches because even Fernandez have come from bench to come and give an assist and scored when man united is loosing.
I'm talking important important matches..


I'm talking about real matches that keeps your team at the top of a group, or qualifies your team.

Come back to me if you can bring something like this for Messi..

Roma, Liverpool, Bayern Munich, etc all came to wop his ass.

Your arguments are just dumb honestly

Did Ronaldo change all the above mentioned games from the bench? Cos that's what your arguments started with

Now when I showed you superior facts, you have shifted goal post

I'm not here to do back and forth with you, but there are scores of big matches Messi has single handedly changed

Vs Real Madrid in champions league, vs Chelsea, vs united, vs bayern, vs arsenal....
Go figure the rest

As usual you have nothing new to say... Ronaldo big game player... City, Liverpool knack am for home... Leceister and Watford trashed him
Serbia trashed him at home

But yet, Ronaldo is a big game player, but can't change the ties in these recent matches
Can't even save ole's job if he had converted those 1 on 1 he missed

Bunch of jokers

JohnnyPalmer:
Your arguments are just dumb honestly

Did Ronaldo change all the above mentioned games from the bench? Cos that's what your arguments started with

Now when I showed you superior facts, you have shifted goal post

I'm not here to do back and forth with you, but there are scores of big matches Messi has single handedly changed

Vs Real Madrid in champions league, vs Chelsea, vs united, vs bayern, vs arsenal....
Go figure the rest

As usual you have nothing new to say... Ronaldo big game player... City, Liverpool knack am for home... Leceister and Watford trashed him
Serbia trashed him at home

But yet, Ronaldo is a big game player, but can't change the ties in these recent matches
Can't even save ole's job if he had converted those 1 on 1 he missed

Bunch of jokers

Come to me when you have an answer.

Barca was beating man united comfortably... 1-0, 2-1 ..

By the way which tie against Chelsea he changed? Something when na iniesta scored dying minute goal.


Lol even ronaldo wanted ole to go. Why bother saving his job?.


Oya bring the one where Messi dey field Nd they were loosing and all of a sudden he scord to equalize or to win the game for them.. bring real games o. For eg o gave you examples of games.. so u bring examples for me too.

JohnnyPalmer:
Your arguments are just dumb honestly

Did Ronaldo change all the above mentioned games from the bench? Cos that's what your arguments started with

Now when I showed you superior facts, you have shifted goal post

I'm not here to do back and forth with you, but there are scores of big matches Messi has single handedly changed

Vs Real Madrid in champions league, vs Chelsea, vs united, vs bayern, vs arsenal....
Go figure the rest

As usual you have nothing new to say... Ronaldo big game player... City, Liverpool knack am for home... Leceister and Watford trashed him
Serbia trashed him at home

But yet, Ronaldo is a big game player, but can't change the ties in these recent matches
Can't even save ole's job if he had converted those 1 on 1 he missed

Bunch of jokers

There are not big games na , As long as Ronaldo didn't score there, they don't fit into the criteria
Some Ronaldo fans sha

paulolee:
DTS his opinion sha n i cnt argue n force words on him...
dey keep mentioning big games performance asif games like Leicester, Liverpool n man city dis season dt we went silent all 90 mins are small games..
games againsr serbia dt needed a big performance to enter d worldcup is also a small game
6 UCL knock out games in Juve n couldn't help dm pass teams like Lyon, ajax n porto n still dey keep saying he deliver in big games..
Chelsea is dis weekend n Its anoda big game, I cnt wait to see dt big performance

Wetin be ronaldo age first of all??
U have simply forgotten when dey played northern Ireland young players like bruno Bernardo dey dere dey mumu na this man still save thier ass
Juventus athletico madrid Ronaldo still save those ones
Even now as man united don enter round of 16 for UCL if no be Ronaldo na manunited go carry last for the group
Abeg respect that crown
He is human but when u are talking of when he did not perform remember when he performed too don't be bias

Kilishihunter:
There are not big games na , As long as Ronaldo didn't score there, they don't fit into the criteria
Some Ronaldo fans sha

Oga no dey argue ronaldo turn up in most important situations than messi if we start to dey count am e long
Shey na real madrid vs Wolfsburg second leg hat trick??
Shey na UCL finals??
Even now as man united worst reach u think say If no be ronaldo dem rashford ready to reach round of 16?? Na man united for carry last for that group the year portugal carry euros ronaldo score hat trick for groupstage before them qualify as best loser abeg respect that man

Miller232:
Wetin be ronaldo age first of all??
U have simply forgotten when dey played northern Ireland young players like bruno Bernardo dey dere dey mumu na this man still save thier ass
Juventus athletico madrid Ronaldo still save those ones
Even now as man united don enter round of 16 for UCL if no be Ronaldo na manunited go carry last for the group
Abeg respect that crown
He is human but when u are talking of when he did not perform remember when he performed too don't be bias

we know he do perform in big games....mk una also de talk wen e fails bcox he isnt perfect....u guys keep calling big games asif na constant tin

Ojeema1:
only deluded minds like yourself think otherwise......you can scream all you want, Ronaldo is no match for Messi....You claim is a better goal scorer, yet Messi has more Golden Boots, Player of the Tournaments Award, trophies and even MOTM.

Psychiatric evaluation will suit you perfectly for ever thinking Ronaldo is a match for Messi.

why u no give credit to a perfect team that had Marcelo, Modric, benzema, Kroos, Ramos and even Casemeiro?? Since na only am win back to back ucl for Madrid, why e never fit cross quarter final since he left and was he injured when Messi won 2009 and 2011??

bloody liar......like i always tell you, you are too full of double standard. Always twisting facts to suit your narrative......why didn't you tell them between 2009 and 2012, Messi also scored far more than Ronaldo in the UCL. Everyday you go talk as if Champions league start from 2016 cos Ronaldo dominated that period. what was he also doing when Messi dominated and they won twice in 3years?

Oga, before Ronaldo joined they had 7 points from 3 games and i dont think anybody called for his sack at the time. They called for his sack last season before he managed to turn things around.

Bro you dey try abeg, those pendu fan boys e be like say dey no dey open eye watch ball,
Where Ronaldo dey for ucl final when Ramos dey bail the team out.

Kingcalls:
U even forgot the juve vs Madrid game...after scoring 2ice in the first leg to win 3.0 at juve ...juve came to Madrid and scored 3 as well till Ronaldo rescued Madrid by scoring one goal in the last minute.... go and also check out against shalke in the round of 16... after he scored in the first leg and they won 2.0 ... shalke came to Madrid and scored 4 goals , luckily for Madrid, they had Ronaldo that scored 2 goals and a 3rd to knock out shalke... only in 2012 against barca and last season against Porto were the only 2 times Ronaldo failed to scored on both legs when he got knocked out ...

Was it the same ronaldo that was on ghost mode before Vasquez won a penalty?

2dominate:
Was it the same ronaldo that was on ghost mode before Vasquez won a penalty?

How did vasquez get the ball??

Kingcalls:
How did vasquez get the ball??

Are we not talking about ronaldo struggling to score himself, abi we want to change it to supplying team mates. After been supplied by one of the best midfielders in the world ?

2dominate:
Are we not talking about ronaldo struggling to score himself, abi we want to change it to supplying team mates. After been supplied by one of the best midfielders in the world ?

Struggling to score how?? Eas he not the one that scored the sway goal that killed off juves spirit

OJEEMAH:
Maybe Lampard is on meth. he is not consistent which means he can still switch back to Messi tomorrow cos i wonder how Gary's debate with Carragher will influence his decision when its obvious Carragher shut Gary up with facts.

If his current judgement is based on semi final and final then his IQ is much lower than I thought.

Which semi final him dey talk sef??

Ronaldo has played 4 World cup. No goal in the semi final they manage to reach(2006).

He has also played 5 euros with just one goal in the semis and finals

Since he left Madrid, Ronaldo don cross UCL quarter final with him goals not to talk of playing semi and final.

Make lampard try get small sense.....Ronaldo peak was between 2016-2018 when Madrid was on form with the likes of Modric, Benzema , Bale, Ramos, Kroos and even Marcelo and that's why he could win top scorer in the champions league consecutively.

Just like Messi's peak was between 2009-2015 when they had Xavi, Iniesta and the others that's why he could also win consecutive top scorer award in the champions league.

And even after they Xavi, Iniesta, Neymar and the likes left, Messi still pushed Barcelona to the semis with magnificent goal and a sublime free kick against liverpool.

They both had their peak period!

So wetin Lampo dey talk set??

If you like call am peak or if you like call am three crowns, na Messi be BABA!