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The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by AlexBells(m): 9:32pm On Nov 30, 2021
I'm compelled to make this post on a crucial issue that had boxed me to a Corner and no matter how much I try to avoid it people drag me to it, this could be a long read.

This situation is really important to me, I made a post earlier concerning Opobo and Bonny hinting that at sometimes in history the Ijaws sold the Igbos to slavery many Igbos came for me in a very brutal way using so much heavy language on me, I thought it was good to stay out for a while by spending more time in the romance session but people keep dragging me to these posts, the fact is that apart from being an aspiring politician and Strategist, I'm human.

I wanted to let the issue slide but it is hurting my credibility it is really hurting me, I had to speak to one of my mentors about it and below is my complaint to him and his reply

My Message to My Mentor:
Good Day Sir, something is quite affecting my popularity and it got a bit to do with history,

The Igbo nation has two contested territories of Opobo and Bonny, my movement had been a lot careful that between the two towns I included 1 of them in the bonafide territory of AlaIgbo while leaving the second one out for now to avoid unneeded tension since my province can work just fine with one of the two territories as we are still in Nigeria and if Nigeria is not dividing anytime soon there is no need to get fighting for territories.

These two territories are very significant as our other rivals are supporting the other nationality that we are contesting the territories with in a bid to limit our sea access as the two territories in question have ample sea access but to us, this issue is beyond access to the sea as the two towns have serious history with Igbos and huge presence of indigenous Igbo, in fact, Igbo language and culture is the most prominent there.

But I made an assertion that the Ijaw people (the nationality that we are contesting the territories with) by virtue of the fact that they had earlier access to the outside world sold our people to slavery as we are further interior, my people thought that my statement was derogatory in saying that the Ijaws aided in kidnap and sold our people to slavery,

But accounts can relate to someone like king Jaja of Opobo who was a formal slave and Olaudah Equiano, the fact is that trying to prove these points back to the Portuguese slave merchants seems to me like washing our dirty lining in public but my people is making me look less credible and historically unfit,

The whole defence account they are using is the more recent accounts by British colonialists but that's not the reliable accounts of slavery as during the British influence, slavery had declined and subsequently abolished and most accounts were on trades,

I don't know if I should dig deeper, I don't quite want to dig up hate inspiring memories but my own credibility is in line and they are making me question my own sanity as people who had been opposed to me now use it to insinuate that I'm anti Igbo

I, however, prefer compromise to confrontation that's why I need truth, I can't understand Portuguese nor know much about their accounts but I need to dig deeper and much later sponsor an archeological research to ascertain the earliest settlers on the two towns.

My Mentor's Reply:
Whilst it will be interesting to find out the historical truth this is often not entirely possible. You end up doing a lot of work, find out a lot of things but come to no satisfactory conclusion as precise evidence is missing. Part of my own background is like that. We were `galloglas', that is Scottish soldiers who served Irish kings in the medieval period. The role of galloglas is disputed as they are either seen as Scottish interlopers in Ireland or Scottish guarantees of continued Irish independence. We have a saying `you pays your money and makes your choice'. I have no opinion on the matter other than that people had to make a living as best they could in those days.

It might not be worth following this issue through if it causes you other difficulties. Historical slavery is a horrible issue to deal with in politics and I don't think anyone has found a satisfactory way of resolving the resentments it causes. It is truly an issue best left to the academic historians to examine in fine detail to establish a context which everyone can work with. It is an issue which can easily leave you with egg on your face.

Might I suggest you establish a narrative which accommodates the main points on which everyone is agreed. Yes, bad things happened but not everyone wanted these things to happen and it was only done by foolish people. Something like that. A case for political dissimulation; you obscure to achieve clarity. I know it sounds daft, but in politics your integrity is more important. Try to put yourself in the shoes of your critics. This will help you to find the best way forward.

Many years ago when I was younger than you are now a major political figure in the UK gave me some sound advice. The first was to do your own research and the second was when you find yourself in a hole stop digging any further. You have done the first and I applaud that, but the conclusions have tipped you into a hole. Find the best way to climb out of it and move on.

Now The Situation is Such that I had found myself in a hole so I have to get out by presenting valid arguments
Now like you know I'm a young politician and the majority is always right so I am not presenting these accounts to discredit or challenge anybody but to get myself off the hole.

I will start with the account given by 9Pluto which happened to be the most recent, the account was written by Captain Hugh Crow of Liverpool (1765-1829), the first contact with Portegues by the Benin and other more coastal people especially the Ijaws was as far back as 1484 over two centuries before Captain Hugh Crow was born, the portegues João Afonso de Aveiro arrived the shores of what is today known as Southern Nigeria, we need to understand that the Portuguese wielded influence in the Nigerian coastal towns long before the British arrival.

While the Aros raided slaves in the hinterland, the Aros was not trading directly with the whites rather they exchanged the salves with Ijaw merchants which in return for their supplies, why I opined that the Ijaws was more in control of the Bonny slave port. There were three major slave ports within the Eastern corridor 1. Itsekiri 2. Calabar 3. Bonny The Itseiri was used mostly by Benin, Calabar by the coastal people of Akwa Ibom and Cross River and Bonny Mostly by Ijaws, the Aros supplied these people leveraging the huge population of Igbo land so the Aros never sold Directly to the Portuguese, this fact would be corroborated later by king Jaja because, in the true sense of it, Jaja was transacting in the business of his Ijaw buyers although he later regained his freedom, found his own territory where he became king.

The Bight of Biafra was named by the Portegues and not the British so long before the British arrived things had been going on, The issue of Opobo and Bonny can't be fixed by mere history it is either compromise or the exhibition of might and while I would advocate that Opobo is undeniably Igbo, Bonny is a hybrid town which would require a referendum or full-scale invasion, Opobo, however, won't be debated as it is as Igbo as Orlu.

Having clarified myself, I wish to concentrate more on politics, strategy and solving real problems, however, I am an Igbo man and it is quite really hard to debate along because sometimes we are too ashamed of some aspect of our history that we seem to attack anyone that brings such reality to light but everyone in their history has some terrible times and it was the call of the time, I hope people also understand that using strong words on me would make me eventually withdrawn this is because I'm Igbo and disagreeing with my own people which happen to be my support base would hurt my politics and the support of my people is not what I want to trade to win flimsy arguments.

9Pluto
SlayerForever
BKayy
Ekealterego
Fejoku
OfoIgbo
Igboid
afonjaheadhunts

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Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by SlayerForever: 9:45pm On Nov 30, 2021
AlexBells:
I'm compelled to make this post on a crucial issue that had boxed me to a Corner and no matter how much I try to avoid it people drag me to it, this could be a long read.

This situation is really important to me, I made a post earlier concerning Opobo and Bonny hinting that at sometimes in history the Ijaws sold the Igbos to slavery many Igbos came for me in a very brutal way using so much heavy language on me, I thought it was good to stay out for a while by spending more time in the romance session but people keep dragging me to these posts, the fact is that apart from being an aspiring politician and Strategist, I'm human.

I wanted to let the issue slide but it is hurting my credibility it is really hurting me, I had to speak to one of my mentors about it and below is my complaint to him and his reply

My Message to My Mentor:
Good Day Sir, something is quite affecting my popularity and it got a bit to do with history,

The Igbo nation has two contested territories of Opobo and Bonny, my movement had been a lot careful that between the two towns I included 1 of them in the bonafide territory of AlaIgbo while leaving the second one out for now to avoid unneeded tension since my province can work just fine with one of the two territories as we are still in Nigeria and if Nigeria is not dividing anytime soon there is no need to get fighting for territories.

These two territories are very significant as our other rivals are supporting the other nationality that we are contesting the territories with in a bid to limit our sea access as the two territories in question have ample sea access but to us, this issue is beyond access to the sea as the two towns have serious history with Igbos and huge presence of indigenous Igbo, in fact, Igbo language and culture is the most prominent there.

But I made an assertion that the Ijaw people (the nationality that we are contesting the territories with) by virtue of the fact that they had earlier access to the outside world sold our people to slavery as we are further interior, my people thought that my statement was derogatory in saying that the Ijaws aided in kidnap and sold our people to slavery,

But accounts can relate to someone like king Jaja of Opobo who was a formal slave and Olaudah Equiano, the fact is that trying to prove these points back to the Portuguese slave merchants seems to me like washing our dirty lining in public but my people is making me look less credible and historically unfit,

The whole defence account they are using is the more recent accounts by British colonialists but that's not the reliable accounts of slavery as during the British influence, slavery had declined and subsequently abolished and most accounts were on trades,

I don't know if I should dig deeper, I don't quite want to dig up hate inspiring memories but my own credibility is in line and they are making me question my own sanity as people who had been opposed to me now use it to insinuate that I'm anti Igbo

I, however, prefer compromise to confrontation that's why I need truth, I can't understand Portuguese nor know much about their accounts but I need to dig deeper and much later sponsor an archeological research to ascertain the earliest settlers on the two towns.

My Mentor's Reply:
Whilst it will be interesting to find out the historical truth this is often not entirely possible. You end up doing a lot of work, find out a lot of things but come to no satisfactory conclusion as precise evidence is missing. Part of my own background is like that. We were `galloglas', that is Scottish soldiers who served Irish kings in the medieval period. The role of galloglas is disputed as they are either seen as Scottish interlopers in Ireland or Scottish guarantees of continued Irish independence. We have a saying `you pays your money and makes your choice'. I have no opinion on the matter other than that people had to make a living as best they could in those days.

It might not be worth following this issue through if it causes you other difficulties. Historical slavery is a horrible issue to deal with in politics and I don't think anyone has found a satisfactory way of resolving the resentments it causes. It is truly an issue best left to the academic historians to examine in fine detail to establish a context which everyone can work with. It is an issue which can easily leave you with egg on your face.

Might I suggest you establish a narrative which accommodates the main points on which everyone is agreed. Yes, bad things happened but not everyone wanted these things to happen and it was only done by foolish people. Something like that. A case for political dissimulation; you obscure to achieve clarity. I know it sounds daft, but in politics your integrity is more important. Try to put yourself in the shoes of your critics. This will help you to find the best way forward.

Many years ago when I was younger than you are now a major political figure in the UK gave me some sound advice. The first was to do your own research and the second was when you find yourself in a hole stop digging any further. You have done the first and I applaud that, but the conclusions have tipped you into a hole. Find the best way to climb out of it and move on.

Now The Situation is Such that I had found myself in a hole so I have to get out by presenting valid arguments
Now like you know I'm a young politician and the majority is always right so I am not presenting these accounts to discredit or challenge anybody but to get myself off the hole.

I will start with the account given by 9Pluto which happened to be the most recent, the account was written by Captain Hugh Crow of Liverpool (1765-1829), the first contact with Portegues by the Benin and other more coastal people especially the Ijaws was as far back as 1484 over two centuries before Captain Hugh Crow was born, the portegues João Afonso de Aveiro arrived the shores of what is today known as Southern Nigeria, we need to understand that the Portuguese wielded influence in the Nigerian coastal towns long before the British arrival.

While the Aros raided slaves in the hinterland, the Aros was not trading directly with the whites rather they exchanged the salves with Ijaw merchants which in return for their supplies, why I opined that the Ijaws was more in control of the Bonny slave port. There were three major slave ports within the Eastern corridor 1. Itsekiri 2. Calabar 3. Bonny The Itseiri was used mostly by Benin, Calabar by the coastal people of Akwa Ibom and Cross River and Bonny Mostly by Ijaws, the Aros supplied these people leveraging the huge population of Igbo land so the Aros never sold Directly to the Portuguese, this fact would be corroborated later by king Jaja because, in the true sense of it, Jaja was transacting in the business of his Ijaw buyers although he later regained his freedom, found his own territory where he became king.

The Bight of Biafra was named by the Portegues and not the British so long before the British arrived things had been going on, The issue of Opobo and Bonny can't be fixed by mere history it is either compromise or the exhibition of might and while I would advocate that Opobo is undeniably Igbo, Bonny is a hybrid town which would require a referendum or full-scale invasion, Opobo, however, won't be debated as it is as Igbo as Orlu.

Having clarified myself, I wish to concentrate more on politics, strategy and solving real problems, however, I am an Igbo man and it is quite really hard to debate along because sometimes we are too ashamed of some aspect of our history that we seem to attack anyone that brings such reality to light but everyone in their history has some terrible times and it was the call of the time, I hope people also understand that using strong words on me would make me eventually withdrawn this is because I'm Igbo and disagreeing with my own people which happen to be my support base would hurt my politics and the support of my people is not what I want to trade to win flimsy arguments.

9Pluto
SlayerForever
BKayy
Ekealterego
Fejoku
OfoIgbo
Igboid
afonjaheadhunts





You shouldn't bother yourself too much about slavery on the coast back then though. It doesn't mean anything today.
Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by SlayerForever: 9:46pm On Nov 30, 2021
What is there to bother you about slavery? Ijaw people? Puleaseeee.

As for your integrity, bother more about your real life integrity. Don't take Nairaland to heart, it doesn't make sense. We are all your brothers whether some bash you or not.

I do tell some here, as soon as I turn off my data from Nairaland it's bye bye to whatever negativity I read on the site. I wonder how I would be thinking about what some said on Nairaland. Nahhhhhhhh.

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Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by Investigative: 9:50pm On Nov 30, 2021
ijaw are immigrants in Nigeria who were kidnapped by Britain to eastern coast during British Invasion and fought against igbo who were defiance against the Britain after the war ijaw settled on the coast
Ijaw are immigrants from ghana and Sierra Leone that more reason they have so many ethnicism and confusion in their midst
Note :they settled in the creek
And they met the land owners their with the influence of Britain they were left to stay more reason they are loyal to Britain
That more reason ijaw will never tell you of their history where they come from just as we know of other tribe in Nigeria

So I don’t take ijaw serious until they solve their identity crisis

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Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by JANK23H(m): 9:50pm On Nov 30, 2021
You have spoken well,not as a politician but a scholar,devoid of emotions.

Well...to your kinsmen who would rather drag you in the mud or hide behind a finger,let them be.They will come around.

Might I also add that there isn't any animosity between both tribes in reality,tempers only flare when there's blatant disregard and disrespect towards a party.The people of Bonny or Opobo are not things,but humans that should be treated with respect.

In all,you have earned my respect.

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Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by JANK23H(m): 9:52pm On Nov 30, 2021
Investigative:
ijaw are immigrants in Nigeria who were kidnapped by Britain to eastern coast to fought against igbo who were defiance against the Britain after the war ijaw settled on the coast
Ijaw are immigrants from ghana and Sierra Leone that more reason they have so many ethnicism and confusion in their midst

So I don’t take ijaw serious until they solve their identity crisis
Grow up

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Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by Investigative: 9:54pm On Nov 30, 2021
JANK23H:

Grow up
Well you comment didn’t change the truth I said

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Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by JANK23H(m): 9:55pm On Nov 30, 2021
Investigative:

Well you comment didn’t change the truth I said
And yours didn't make it the truth either.

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Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by RobbStark(m): 9:56pm On Nov 30, 2021
SlayerForever:



You shouldn't bother yourself too much about slavery on the coast back then though. It doesn't mean anything today.

Truth stares you in the face.
We the Ijaws have chosen to stay mute regarding your rants. .

Like you have said in other discuss, you guys are winning online, whereas the real owners on ground are the super winners.

I am yet to see a real Ibo man from Opobo or Bonny.
If you know anyone, point him in my direction

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Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by BKayy: 9:56pm On Nov 30, 2021
This AlexBells dude don't know much and his post is enough proof.

So all these write up is an attempt to override the more historical accurate thread by 9Pluto

Ekealterego, Slayerforever, Igboid and Eastlink. I don't know who people are seeing when you look at this AlexBells but what I am seeing is an enemy of the Igbo nation. Someone moulded in the likeness of Joe Igbokwe.

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Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by Investigative: 9:57pm On Nov 30, 2021
JANK23H:

And yours didn't make it the truth either.
Since you don’t have any story to contradict it
Just accept the truth
You can’t cover it
Where did ijaw migrated from?

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Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by Kwem(m): 10:01pm On Nov 30, 2021
This is not an accusation but, your real intentions is still hidden Alex and time will tell....

I was expecting you to bring credible and outstanding criticism against the historical facts on the last thread created by (9pluto) but you ended up in the fence.
I know Conny people when I see one,
You'll create another topic in the future for this same purpose

Oh I forgot, you're aspiring to become one of those Nigerian politicians, good luck anyways..

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Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by JANK23H(m): 10:01pm On Nov 30, 2021
BKayy:
This AlexBells dude don't know much and his post is enough proof.

So a these write up is an attempt to override the more historical accurate thread by 9Pluto

Ekealterego, Slayerforever, Igboid and Eastlink. I don't know who people are seeing when you look at this AlexBells but what I am seeing is an enemy of the Igbo nation. Someone moulded in the likeness of Joe Igbokwe.
What he said is fact.His account is all over the internet,if only you can take away emotions and the bias in your head.

I alluded to this in some other thread.The British were trouble and messed up our history,some deliberately,and others out of ignorance.
Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by BKayy: 10:02pm On Nov 30, 2021
SlayerForever:



You shouldn't bother yourself too much about slavery on the coast back then though. It doesn't mean anything today.
Pay attention to details. This dude is all out to destroy whatever the Igbo nation think they are building.

Igbo names or the ability to speak Igbo doesn't mean Igbo interest.
This thread was designed as a kick to shatter all that have achieved in solviethe case of Bonny.

It is better to deal with a clear enemy like the Fulani herdsmen than an inside cancer like this. This dude is like a poison that has no single Igbo interest in him.
It is either he is bringing out new ways to end IPOB whenever IPOB is about to achieve something or a way to bring down anything uniting Igbo.

For the best Interest of Ndigbo, I will rather strike a deal with General Ditari, Boko Haram or ISWAP than this dude. At least, I will know the devil I am working with.

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Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by Kwem(m): 10:02pm On Nov 30, 2021
BKayy:
This AlexBells dude don't know much and his post is enough proof.

So a these write up is an attempt to override the more historical accurate thread by 9Pluto

Ekealterego, Slayerforever, Igboid and Eastlink. I don't know who people are seeing when you look at this AlexBells but what I am seeing is an enemy of the Igbo nation. Someone moulded in the likeness of Joe Igbokwe.
God bless you, we catch am...

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Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by BKayy: 10:05pm On Nov 30, 2021
JANK23H:

What he said is fact.His account is all over the internet,if only you can take away emotions and the bias in your head.

I alluded to this in some other thread.The British were trouble and messed up our history,some deliberately,and others out of ignorance.
"whenever you do something and your enemy is hailing you, know that you are part of the enemy"

I don't see any Igbo man's submit here but an anti Igbo submit and as such must be treated like one.

We are not Fools. We are Ndigbo

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Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by JANK23H(m): 10:06pm On Nov 30, 2021
BKayy:

Pay attention to details. This dude is all out to destroy whatever the Igbo nation think they are building.

Igbo names or the ability to speak Igbo doesn't mean Igbo interest.
This thread was designed as a kick to shatter all that have achieved in solviethe case of Bonny.

It is better to deal with a clear enemy like the Fulani herdsmen than an inside cancer like this. This dude is like a poison that has no single Igbo interest in him.
It is either he is bringing out new ways to end IPOB whenever IPOB is about to achieve something or a way to bring down anything uniting Igbo.

For the best Interest of Ndigbo, I will rather strike a deal with General Ditari, Boko Haram or ISWAP than this dude.
All these threads was to push an agenda then?

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Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by RobbStark(m): 10:06pm On Nov 30, 2021
BKayy:
This AlexBells dude don't know much and his post is enough proof.

So a these write up is an attempt to override the more historical accurate thread by 9Pluto

Ekealterego, Slayerforever, Igboid and Eastlink. I don't know who people are seeing when you look at this AlexBells but what I am seeing is an enemy of the Igbo nation. Someone moulded in the likeness of Joe Igbokwe.

Go ahead and say it, that he is Ijaw, say it like the man you are.
When it's not in your favour, they are not ibos.
I gave you all an assignment last nite.
Show me an Ibo man from Opobo or Bonny.
I waiting
Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by BKayy: 10:11pm On Nov 30, 2021
JANK23H:

All these threads was to push an agenda then?
RobbStark:


Go ahead and say it, that he is Ijaw, say it like the man you are.
When it's not in your favour, they are not ibos.
I gave you all an assignment last nite.
Show me an Ibo man from Opobo or Bonny.
I waiting
The answer to both of you is this

"Have you ever agreed with an Igbo man before?"

And by Igbo man, I mean someone with Igbo interests like me, Igboid, Ekealterego, Slayerforever etc.

This answers both of you. They say spies work better when they are members of the nation with the intent to destroy it like a ruptured appendix

No matter what, We don't see AlexBells as any Igbo rep. He is what anti-Igbo looks like and his words are treated like what would harm the Igbo nation.

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Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by SlayerForever: 10:13pm On Nov 30, 2021
BKayy:
This AlexBells dude don't know much and his post is enough proof.

So all these write up is an attempt to override the more historical accurate thread by 9Pluto

Ekealterego, Slayerforever, Igboid and Eastlink. I don't know who people are seeing when you look at this AlexBells but what I am seeing is an enemy of the Igbo nation. Someone moulded in the likeness of Joe Igbokwe.


He cannot override anything. He's just the average one Nigeria Igbo with passionate, most of the time, ignorant perspectives, with interests in the current political setup.

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Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by BKayy: 10:14pm On Nov 30, 2021
SlayerForever:



He cannot override anything.
He ended up overriding his cover.
Now the little Igbo people still having a soft spot for him have been cleared.

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Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by JANK23H(m): 10:15pm On Nov 30, 2021
BKayy:

The answer to both of you is this

"Have you ever agreed with an Igbo man before?"

And by Igbo man, I mean someone with Igbo interests like me, Igboid, Ekealterego, Slayerforever etc.

This answers both of you. They say spies work better when they are members of the nation with the intent to destroy it like a ruptured appendix

No matter what, We don't see AlexBells as any Igbo rep. He is what anti-Igbo looks like and his words are treated like what would harm the Igbo nation.
I would agree with a superior argument if I saw one.So far, there's been none.

I believe you all know the truth.There could have been a better way though to approach this.The Igbos have always been known to lack tact politically.
Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by SlayerForever: 10:17pm On Nov 30, 2021
JANK23H:

I would agree with a superior argument if I saw one.So far, there's been none.

I believe you all know the truth.There could have been a better way though to approach this.The Igbos have always been known to lack tact politically.


Mehn the thrash you vomit is something to behold.

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Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by RobbStark(m): 10:18pm On Nov 30, 2021
BKayy:

The answer to both of you is this

"Have you ever agreed with an Igbo man before?"

And by Igbo man, I mean someone with Igbo interests like me, Igboid, Ekealterego, Slayerforever etc.

This answers both of you. They say spies work better when they are members of the nation with the intent to destroy it like a ruptured appendix

No matter what, We don't see AlexBells as any Igbo rep. He is what anti-Igbo looks like and his words are treated like what would harm the Igbo nation.

To start with there is nothing like Ibo nation.
Don't call your community a nation yet.

Let's assume you and I are close friends, and I have a question won't you answer........

Have you met any Ibo man from Opobo or Bonny, ??
I mean someone who can beat his chest and say he is an Ibo man from bonny or Opobo.
Is it too difficult to answer.

I dey wait for the answer like this ooooo

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Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by BKayy: 10:19pm On Nov 30, 2021
JANK23H:

I would agree with a superior argument if I saw one.So far, there's been none.

I believe you all know the truth.There could have been a better way though to approach this.The Igbos have always been known to lack tact politically.
Coming from "touch us physical"
Well, I will pass.

If you still want to disgrace yourself in superior reasoning, evidence etc, just go back to 9Pluto's thread and serve yourself.

"Igbos lack political tact" and you ijaws are forever relegated to the swamps of Bayelsa. Your people thought they would last in Rivers State.

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Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by RobbStark(m): 10:20pm On Nov 30, 2021
SlayerForever:



Mehn the thrash you vomit is something to behold.

Keep kwayet boy.
Why didn't you answer my question.
I have another, do you know the names King Jaja who founded Opobo gave his children??
Do you know if he gave them Ibo names or not
Try dig out that info and lemme know. grin grin grin
Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by JANK23H(m): 10:21pm On Nov 30, 2021
SlayerForever:



Mehn the thrash you vomit is something to behold.
Lol...
Don't feel defeated.

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Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by JANK23H(m): 10:24pm On Nov 30, 2021
BKayy:

Coming from "touch us physical"
Well, I will pass.

If you still want to disgrace yourself in superior reasoning, evidence etc, just go back to 9Pluto's thread and serve yourself.

"Igbos lack political tact" and you ijaws are forever relegated to the swamps of Bayelsa. Your people thought they would last in Rivers State.
Oops!...I must have touched a nerve.

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Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by BKayy: 10:25pm On Nov 30, 2021
RobbStark:


To start with there is nothing like Ibo nation.
Don't call your community a nation yet.

Let's assume you and I are close friends, and I have a question won't you answer........

Have you met any Ibo man from Opobo or Bonny, ??
I mean someone who can beat his chest and say he is an Ibo man from bonny or Opobo.
Is it too difficult to answer.

I dey wait for the answer like this ooooo
If we haven't met any, we wouldn't be wasting our time here.

You are speaking on the basis of the 100 hungry people that fell sober after drinking in INC/IYC pub but we are speaking on the authority of indigenes that don't have means for others to hear their plight.

So you see.. That is the difference between us and you people.

As for the definition of a nation it is "a large body of people united by common descent, history, culture, or language, inhabiting a particular country or territory"

With this definition, can you discuss with someone from Bonny without using English language (normal or Pidgin)?
No

But can I with Igbo? Yes.

Another self explanatory difference.

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Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by BKayy: 10:26pm On Nov 30, 2021
JANK23H:

Oops!...I must have touched a nerve.
Depending on whose nerve it was.
Sorry, you touched yours by mistake.
Cheers.

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Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by RobbStark(m): 10:35pm On Nov 30, 2021
BKayy:

If we haven't met any, we wouldn't be wasting our time here.

You are speaking on the basis of the 100 hungry people that fell sober after drinking in INC/IYC pub but we are speaking on the authority of indigenes that don't have means for others to hear their plight.

So you see.. That is the difference between us and you people.

As for the definition of a nation it is "a large body of people united by common descent, history, culture, or language, inhabiting a particular country or territory"

With this definition, can you discuss with someone from Bonny without using English language (normal or Pidgin)?
No

But can I with Igbo? Yes.

Another self explanatory difference.

How can you stay in your small town and speak for people far away who don't even identify themselves as ibo. How. ??
Are you by chance insinuating that we don't have ibos who are indigenes of those two towns in this forum.
Guy say something else.
Just do you know, I communicate with ibani wen I am in bonny.
They don't speak Ibo in Kalaibiama, finima name them.
Even in bonny main town, only strangers use Ibo come and see for yourself.
I can book LNG boat for you if you are scared of using the public one.

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Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by BKayy: 10:40pm On Nov 30, 2021
RobbStark:


How can you stay in your small town and speak for people far away who don't even identify themselves as ibo. How. ??
Are you by chance insinuating that we don't have ibos who are indigenes of those two towns in this forum.
Guy say something else.
Just do you know, I communicate with ibani wen I am in bonny.
They don't speak Ibo in Kalaibiama, finima name them.
Even in bonny main town, only strangers use Ibo come and see for yourself.
I can book LNG boat for you if you are scared of using the public one.
Sometimes I wonder how you people reason.

If you are not a Shameless liar, you would have put the picture below into consideration before embarrassing yourself like this

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