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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by germaphobe(m): 8:22am On Dec 04, 2021
Spy360:
We are currently 5th. Remember that the pre-season target was a top 6 finish. Make Una stop to do like say we dey target title.
dont settle for for that bro, and the target was top 4 not 6
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 8:54am On Dec 04, 2021
germaphobe:
I cantwait for afcon to start so auba can Bleep off my airspace, cus i know thats the only way for him to be out of our match day squid. arteta no fit bench him. as for elneny, well i just hope that was his final match for arsenal. i miss xhaka and TK gingering.
You miss Xhaka. grin grin grin grin

Arsenal fans?

Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 8:55am On Dec 04, 2021
germaphobe:
dont settle for for that bro, and the target was top 4 not 6
When was the last time we finished top 4?
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Nobody: 8:56am On Dec 04, 2021
Spy360:
You miss Xhaka. grin grin grin grin

Arsenal fans?
I remember during Emery's time when I said Xhaka might not be plying at the level we expect but given the options we had then I will pick him ahead of Guen, peeps wanted to destroy me
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 9:06am On Dec 04, 2021
kokanepyramid:
I remember during Emery's time when I said Xhaka might not be plying at the level we expect but given the options we had then I will pick him ahead of Guen, peeps wanted to destroy me
Exactly jare.

Same thing they are now saying about Aubameyang. As if we have better replacement. By the time he leaves for AFCON, and they realise we don't have striker they will be wishing he returns fast.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 9:35am On Dec 04, 2021
Spy360:
What you see is activity. What stats tell you is productivity. You will know this if you know science.
Lol... I think you're mixing it both ways
What I see is productivity, what stats tell me is activity. For example, pepe can take a lame shot at goal, what stats will tell you is that pepe have a shot on target (activity), but me I know that such a shot can never yield to goal on any normal circumstances (productivity).

It's the reason why one needs to dey watch match and see wetin dey sup instead of just looking at livescores.

It's also the big reason why I was against auba starting against man u even tho he was our joint top highest goalscorer going into the game. Stats will tell you I'm crazy for saying such(how can you bench your highest goalscorer and striker for that matter going into a big game), but football watchers will see the point I'm making.

At the end of the day, auba was hauled off even tho we were looking for an equaliser(something that hasn't been done this season) and he was also the most criticised player after the match.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 9:48am On Dec 04, 2021
Spy360:
That is why Arteta loves Xhaka. He covers the LB whenever he overlaps. Most of us here don't appreciate this. When I said for now Xhaka is the best partner for Partey, the likes of Jodera will be typing 'LoL' for me. undecided
Lol... Spy spy, you don come again grin

My point have always been clear here. While I want Xhaka sold and replaced due to his limitations and error proneness sometimes, I still know he's our best bet in that midfield alongside partey. I want an experienced player to take over not all these small small boys. Reason why I'm always talking about bissouma.

Na me still talk for this season that we've had at least almost a good midfield domination with xhaka alongside partey this season(against Tottenham) and that he'll be needed back even tho I know I like lokonga.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 9:53am On Dec 04, 2021
Spy360:
Exactly jare.

Same thing they are now saying about Aubameyang. As if we have better replacement. By the time he leaves for AFCON, and they realise we don't have striker they will be wishing he returns fast.
Hope by then, you won't start saying Jo.dera was among those who wished auba should never start again for arsenal. After all, na only man u match I did say he should warm bench and I was clear about it.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 10:02am On Dec 04, 2021
Spy360:
We are currently 5th. Remember that the pre-season target was a top 6 finish. Make Una stop to do like say we dey target title.
So we are out of Europe just to settle for top 6 now? Why is it that we can't compete for top 4, or are you just deliberately setting the standard low??
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Nobody: 10:13am On Dec 04, 2021
Spy360:
We are currently 5th. Remember that the pre-season target was a top 6 finish. Make Una stop to do like say we dey target title.
When was the last time our target was to win the title?, we've been rebuilding since moving to the Emirate stadium. Even the twin towers didn't take that long to rebuild.

Then top 4 was the target, now it's top 6 aren't you seeing the trend here?
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 10:22am On Dec 04, 2021
kokanepyramid:
When was the last time our target was to win the title?, we've been rebuilding since moving to the Emirate stadium. Even the twin towers didn't take that long to rebuild.

Then top 4 was the target, now it's top 6 aren't you seeing the trend here?
Very soon, na to avoid relegation remain grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by daveP(m): 10:28am On Dec 04, 2021
Spy360:
I hope say you dey joke. angry
14goals 4assists

With a stellar performance against RB Leipzig days ago? He for dey ball under Klopp by now if not for work permit and etc.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by daveP(m): 10:30am On Dec 04, 2021
So na Nketiah go replace Auba when Afcon start? grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by daveP(m): 10:31am On Dec 04, 2021
Vlahovic dey use Arsenal do chess. Is he the only one we can get? We don't want another Perez situo abeg.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by daveP(m): 10:34am On Dec 04, 2021
Spy360:
That is why Arteta loves Xhaka. He covers the LB whenever he overlaps. Most of us here don't appreciate this. When I said for now Xhaka is the best partner for Partey, the likes of Jodera will be typing 'LoL' for me. undecided
Xhaka may not be loved by fans but he fits Arteta's style well. Funny he fits Emery too. Meaning if this Lab Experimentor Manager tweaks things, Na still Xhaka go fit in las las.




I hope ESR gets his mojo back vs Everton though.

Auba will still start that game. Lol


Anyways, evrn if Xhaka comes back and flops, i think we got a better option for covering either of Tava/Tier if na overlap be the game play.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 10:40am On Dec 04, 2021
daveP:
So na Nketiah go replace Auba when Afcon start? grin
Lol.. What happened to lacazette?
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by daveP(m): 11:01am On Dec 04, 2021
Jodera:
Lol.. What happened to lacazette?
Na Arteta Remember. Laca go play na. But na Nketiah go do 9. Dey watch.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 11:10am On Dec 04, 2021
daveP:
Na Arteta Remember. Laca go play na. But na Nketiah go do 9. Dey watch.
lol.. The way I'm seeing it, it'll be lacazette and odegaard if we wanna do that 442
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 11:50am On Dec 04, 2021
daveP:
14goals 4assists

With a stellar performance against RB Leipzig days ago? He for dey ball under Klopp by now if not for work permit and etc.
I haven't taken notice of his performances in the BLiga. That's impressive.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 11:54am On Dec 04, 2021
kokanepyramid:
When was the last time our target was to win the title?, we've been rebuilding since moving to the Emirate stadium. Even the twin towers didn't take that long to rebuild.

Then top 4 was the target, now it's top 6 aren't you seeing the trend here?
A rebuilding process begins with a new manager. If we change management now, na to start another process.

Last season under Arteta we finished 8th. It's expected that he should improve on that by taking us back to at least EL. From there we can begin to talk of CL placements.

I am not going overboard thinking we will be winning titles with this yamayama squad and manager.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Nobody: 11:56am On Dec 04, 2021
Spy360:
A rebuilding process begins with a new manager. If we change management now, na to start another process.

Last season under Arteta we finished 8th. It's expected that he should improve on that by taking us back to at least EL. From there we can begin to talk of CL placements.

I am not going overboard thinking we will be winning titles with this yamayama squad and manager.
That your first paragraph is not true, there are clubs that have fired and hired more frequently than we have and make top 4 and even win trophies, eg Real Madrid, Barca, Chelsea, etc

Hiring a new manager shouldn't be why we should be rebuilding for over 2 decades.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 11:56am On Dec 04, 2021
Jodera:
So we are out of Europe just to settle for top 6 now? Why is it that we can't compete for top 4, or are you just deliberately setting the standard low??
I am being realistic. Like I said, by the end of the last TW, our target was not to finish top 4. Please understand the meaning of target. My prayer is to even win the league but as far as targets are concerned, if one is going to be realistic then it's to finished at least 6th.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 11:59am On Dec 04, 2021
kokanepyramid:
That your first paragraph is not true, there are clubs that have fired and hired more frequently than we have and make top 4 and even win trophies, eg Real Madrid, Barca, Chelsea, etc

Hiring a new manager shouldn't be why we should be rebuilding for over 2 decades.
You dey talk like say you never been part of management before.

Every new management begins a new process. Whether they eventually win a quadruple of titles or not. New management, new plan, new process.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Nobody: 12:09pm On Dec 04, 2021
Spy360:
You dey talk like say you never been part of management before.

Every new management begins a new process.
Doesn't mean you should kill what's on ground,

That's why there's something called sustainable change. You don't change for the sake of changing else you'll run the business to the ground. You need to be strategic, There has to be a road map.

The problem with us is there's no road map, Spy you know at some point I was one of the biggest supporters of Wenger during his rebuilding era until I realised Wenger was just looking for excuses hence I back tracked.

What got us here was we will sell our players then replace them with rookies.
We saw what we enjoyed when we had them Carzolar, Ozil and Sanchez kind of players. Sanchez left what did we replace him with, Ozil left we replaced him with Willock even Guen played 10 at some point, Cazorla left what did we get.

Other clubs will replace like for like or even upgrade we will do the opposite reason we are rebuilding till eternity.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 12:20pm On Dec 04, 2021
Jodera:
Lol... I think you're mixing it both ways
What I see is productivity, what stats tell me is activity. For example, pepe can take a lame shot at goal, what stats will tell you is that pepe have a shot on target (activity), but me I know that such a shot can never yield to goal on any normal circumstances (productivity).

It's the reason why one needs to dey watch match and see wetin dey sup instead of just looking at livescores.

It's also the big reason why I was against auba starting against man u even tho he was our joint top highest goalscorer going into the game. Stats will tell you I'm crazy for saying such (how can you bench your highest goalscorer and striker for that matter going into a big game), but football watchers will see the point I'm making.

At the end of the day, auba was hauled off even tho we were looking for an equaliser(something that hasn't been done this season) and he was also the most criticised player after the match.
Scoreline, ball possession, shots on goal, shots on target, no of tackles, no of interceptions etc aren't activity my brother. They are records of productivity. What do you put on your CV? If you can't provide stats of your performances no employer will take you.

At the bolded, isn't that question reasonable? Unless it's for tactical reasons, there is no justification benching your most prolific player.

You see why I said you are looking at activity not productivity? smiley

Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 12:22pm On Dec 04, 2021
kokanepyramid:
Doesn't mean you should kill what's on ground,

That's why there's something called sustainable change. You don't change for the sake of changing else you'll run the business to the ground. You need to be strategic, There has to be a road map.

The problem with us is there's no road map, Spy you know at some point I was one of the biggest supporters of Wenger during his rebuilding era until I realised Wenger was just looking for excuses hence I back tracked.

What got us here was we will sell our players then replace them with rookies.
We saw what we enjoyed when we had them Carzolar, Ozil and Sanchez kind of players. Sanchez left what did we replace him with, Ozil left we replaced him with Willock even Guen played 10 at some point, Cazorla left what did we get.

Other clubs will replace like for like or even upgrade we will do the opposite reason we are rebuilding till eternity.
You have a point here. I totally agree with you.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Nobody: 12:28pm On Dec 04, 2021
Spy360:
You have a point here. I totally agree with you.
You see it's still same Wenger model of signing rookies prior to signing them Ozil and Sanchez that we are still using the only difference is Wenger was a better coach and had a way of grooming these guys to decent shape than the Emery and Arteta we currently parade.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Roland17(m): 2:01pm On Dec 04, 2021
Did I just read a post where @Spy360 and Kokane agree on a topic? Is our Lord not great...

E remain @iamoindamola.. grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by daveP(m): 5:30pm On Dec 04, 2021
Wait o, Carrick naim beat 5yrs in charge Arteta??

Carrick understudy to Ole
Arteta understudy to Pep


#ArtetaOut trending.


Big Chances created and see Arsenal's rank.... grin




Smh.

Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by daveP(m): 5:36pm On Dec 04, 2021
Arteta does have his fans gaan.

Someone suggested maybe he needs the team overhauled and given half of Pep's budget again. grin

Clips showing he's the one initiating a press before the boys do so proves the zombie theory. And that's where i recall many moments that David Luiz defied that and it helped alot. Imagine Foster passing to his RB and ESR the winger is sitting deep at the LCM position instead of where the FB is?

See how Man Utd pressed us. They really stationed numbers up front to cut out passes from the box. It was flair that helped but it still made us lose the match. We should try put 4 forward when pressing. Afterall, we have a good defence. Las las the middle is sacrificed when we are defending from the front. This should help.


I think all of them are too obedient to his position discipline. Opponents notice this and as i keep shouting, they'll plan to counter it. That doesn't mean the plan isnt good. It just isn't good enough to stop breakdown.


Na dem sabi sha.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Nobody: 6:17pm On Dec 04, 2021
daveP:
Wait o, Carrick naim beat 5yrs in charge Arteta??

Carrick understudy to Ole
Arteta understudy to Pep


#ArtetaOut trending.


Big Chances created and see Arsenal's rank.... grin




Smh.
You see data like this and Pires will still open mouth that we need more defenders
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Nobody: 6:19pm On Dec 04, 2021
daveP:
Arteta does have his fans gaan.

Someone suggested maybe he needs the team overhauled and given half of Pep's budget again. grin

Clips showing he's the one initiating a press before the boys do so proves the zombie theory. And that's where i recall many moments that David Luiz defied that and it helped alot. Imagine Foster passing to his RB and ESR the winger is sitting deep at the LCM position instead of where the FB is?

See how Man Utd pressed us. They really stationed numbers up front to cut out passes from the box. It was flair that helped but it still made us lose the match. We should try put 4 forward when pressing. Afterall, we have a good defence. Las las the middle is sacrificed when we are defending from the front. This should help.


I think all of them are too obedient to his position discipline. Opponents notice this and as i keep shouting, they'll plan to counter it. That doesn't mean the plan isnt good. It just isn't good enough to stop breakdown.


Na dem sabi sha.
He needs Pep's budget so he can buy more defenders?
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