Igboid:


Opobo people are bringing their Nwotam display to Aba township this December too.
Guess what? They wouldn't visit Gbaramatu

With their Igbo language, they have access to 40 million Igbos, a rich ethnic group with money to be made.

Why should they leave such opportunity and go and be romancing with non industrious Aswana chanting pirates that are terrorizing their coasts?

Put yourself in their shoes!

My love, it's 45 million, that's the population statistics. Apart from the millions we have all around the globe too. And people who have Igbo mom's like me that are patriotic.

I guess it's even more than, becuase in Kumasi, look here and there and you'll see Igbos.

ThickSharon123:


My love, it's 45 million, that's the population statistics. Apart from the millions we have all around the globe too. And people who have Igbo mom's like me that are patriotic.

Thanks dear.

I have been able to identify at least 4 Bonny Igbo kings explicitly stated. 3 Pepple and 1 other one.

Another account recorded 2 igbo head of houses.

Now guys do you know that from available records a slave couldn't be King in Bonny.

This was a problem for Jaja and the Bonny civil war gave him an opportunity to carry out his plans of asserting himself hence he became King of Opobo. This thrashes the aculturization fiction.

I have also heard fictions about Opobo becoming ijaw because Jaja married ijaw women, well while I haven't found out the number of wives he had, one account said to solidify his grasp of Opobo, Jaja entered into both marriage and blood covenant with the hinterland people who he was trading with.

Please, someone should kindly reach out out to the current Amanyanabo of Opobo, we need to tell him something.

Anyone who knows the date he would be visiting Amaigbo should also drop it here.

I chooro I Perekule m?
Meaning: Do you want to deceive me?

cc
Slayerforever
Igboid
Ofoigbo
Eastlink
Ekealterego
Bkayy
Vintagepipes

Grinch41:
Good luck to and please make a video of it.I will like to see you.We wait

....Honouring their Igbo brothers ✓

....ABA is booked down.✓

....Visit they did, embrace, we shall!!✓

....and it will be in our mothertongue✓

See the tease at the end, "I hope you gerrit now?", If Ejor don gerrit now, forgerr abourit.

Grinch41:

If the Portuguese,Dutch and British were scared of Ijos,na ordinary Igbo go fit do anything.

Your eyes set on the sea and Bonny oil and gas.Una no fit see am.

Why aren't you as desperate for Ika and Ekwerre?

All na Igbo land.

Igboid:


No Ijaw was ever involved in trade in the coasts.
You had not the acumen for trade.
You couldn't even if you tried.
Don't kid yourselves.

Igbo rulers of Bonny and Opobo sold everyone as slaves including Ijaws. You weren't sold much because you lack the population. When one is 24hrs immersed in alcohol (Ogogoro)like your pirate ancestors were, sperm production is usually impaired leading to high infertility rate.
However, the few of you they could catch, the Bonny Igbo rulers sold.

See this Berbice creole Dutch language formed from Ijoid language by Ijaw slaves in Americas.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berbice_Creole_Dutch

Enough talk online.
This is not Bonny nd Opobo.
Go tell it to them, physical.
Go and remove them from all Ijaw socia-cultural organizations they belong, and force them into Ibo own.

Nairaland is not Bonny and Opobo.

Igboid:


Ijaw came from Sierra Leone to Delta/Bayelsa, and from there started their pirate activities all over the coast of Bight of Bonny.
You are already so frustrated that you had to go and open this new account to have a fresh start.

Lolllllllllll

SlayerForever:



From this I gather Bonny kingdom was wide. Having Bonny Town as a kind of main town or capital. Which could mean there were sections closer to Kalabari who would claim Ijaw, and possibly even claim the town as back then. However, the town wasn't theirs as it was founded by the Ndoki.

All the communities, Kalabari Ibani and the Igbo founders can coexist together. But the problem started when the Ijaw became greedy and wanted ownership of the kingdom. Fabricating various falsehoods and using federal government backing to terrorise Bonny Igbos during and after the war.

I remember now, about 4 years ago when researching about Bonny in IPOB, I came across a news publication dated 2011 when Ojukwu died. It was from Bonny, under the auspices of Bonny Igbos Association or something like that, headed by a certain Comrade Ogbonna and he spoke with the confidence of one who knows who he is. I can't remember exactly if it was a resident Igbos association or indigenous Igbos stuff. In any case such association existed. Maybe it still does.

There was a week's mourning or so, declared for Ikemba. And the king of Bonny was notified officially of the mourning activities, while inviting other nationalities to join them in mourning Ikemba.

For the love of God whatever happened to that association!

Whenever I am chanced I will dig up that newspaper publication and provide it here.

Found it.

My memory serves me well. Mostly


https://www.thenewswriterng.com/2012/03/02/igbos-in-bonny-prepare-to-pay-farewell-to-ojukwu-2/


Where is this association today

9Pluto:
I have been able to identify at least 4 Bonny Igbo kings explicitly stated. 3 Pepple and 1 other one.

Another account recorded 2 igbo head of houses.

Now guys do you know that from available records a slave couldn't be King in Bonny.

This was a problem for Jaja and the Bonny civil war gave him an opportunity to carry out his plans of asserting himself hence he became King of Opobo. This thrashes the aculturization fiction.

I have also heard fictions about Opobo becoming ijaw because Jaja married ijaw women, well while I haven't found out the number of wives he had, one account said to solidify his grasp of Opobo, Jaja entered into both marriage and blood covenant with the hinterland people who he was trading with.

I chooro I Perekule m?
Meaning: Do you want to deceive me?

cc
Slayerforever
Igboid
Ofoigbo
Eastlink
Ekealterego
Bkayy
Vintagepipes

There is a Kamalu.
He was a king in Bonny, I will find it.

However, I don't think the names of the king matters, because their kings from a small analysis I did had diverse names. Mostly English, Igbo and some sort of hybrid one cannot really trace.

SlayerForever:
[s][/s]


Whether by arbitration o or by fight o, now Igbos want Bonny they will get it. Sorry bro.

you just showed your true colors here.
the Igbo national boundary stopped at the fringes of River state, you crossed several tribes/Aborigines to be the first to settle at a swampy Bonny with mosquitoes etc.
what ever happened to your notions about the igbos staying away from water because of the disease it brings??

the mangroves shall whisper dirges to your ending,
the swamps and the mosquitoes shall swallow you
come and get it and get drowned in the ocean.

Vintagepipes:


There is a Kamalu.
He was a king in Bonny, I will find it.

However, I don't think the names of the king matters, because their kings from a small analysis I did had diverse names. Mostly English, Igbo and some sort of hybrid one cannot really trace.

I didn't see the Kamalu. The ones I found were address in English as Pepple and assert they are of igbo descent.
It is important to address this because revisionists are claiming Pepple was a European attempt at pronouncing Perekule, an odious lie that has been busted since the origin of the name Pepple has been sorted.

One author recently published his lie, 'We are sons of Perekule'. I am waiting for him to launch it so we can burst his lies.

9Pluto:
I have been able to identify at least 4 Bonny Igbo kings explicitly stated. 3 Pepple and 1 other one.

Another account recorded 2 igbo head of houses.

Now guys do you know that from available records a slave couldn't be King in Bonny.

This was a problem for Jaja and the Bonny civil war gave him an opportunity to carry out his plans of asserting himself hence he became King of Opobo. This thrashes the aculturization fiction.

I have also heard fictions about Opobo becoming ijaw because Jaja married ijaw women, well while I haven't found out the number of wives he had, one account said to solidify his grasp of Opobo, Jaja entered into both marriage and blood covenant with the hinterland people who he was trading with.

Please, someone should kindly reach out out to the current Amanyanabo of Opobo, we need to tell him something.

Anyone who knows the date he would be visiting Amaigbo should also drop it here.

I chooro I Perekule m?
Meaning: Do you want to deceive me?

cc
Slayerforever
Igboid
Ofoigbo
Eastlink
Ekealterego
Bkayy
Vintagepipes

[b]

9Pluto:
I have been able to identify at least 4 Bonny Igbo kings explicitly stated. 3 Pepple and 1 other one.

Another account recorded 2 igbo head of houses.

Now guys do you know that from available records a slave couldn't be King in Bonny.

This was a problem for Jaja and the Bonny civil war gave him an opportunity to carry out his plans of asserting himself hence he became King of Opobo. This thrashes the aculturization fiction.

I have also heard fictions about Opobo becoming ijaw because Jaja married ijaw women, well while I haven't found out the number of wives he had, one account said to solidify his grasp of Opobo, Jaja entered into both marriage and blood covenant with the hinterland people who he was trading with.

Please, someone should kindly reach out out to the current Amanyanabo of Opobo, we need to tell him something.

Anyone who knows the date he would be visiting Amaigbo should also drop it here.

I chooro I Perekule m?
Meaning: Do you want to deceive me?

cc
Slayerforever
Igboid
Ofoigbo
Eastlink
Ekealterego
Bkayy
Vintagepipes

[/b]

9Pluto:
I have been able to identify at least 4 Bonny Igbo kings explicitly stated. 3 Pepple and 1 other one.

Another account recorded 2 igbo head of houses.

Now guys do you know that from available records a slave couldn't be King in Bonny.

This was a problem for Jaja and the Bonny civil war gave him an opportunity to carry out his plans of asserting himself hence he became King of Opobo. This thrashes the aculturization fiction.

I have also heard fictions about Opobo becoming ijaw because Jaja married ijaw women, well while I haven't found out the number of wives he had, one account said to solidify his grasp of Opobo, Jaja entered into both marriage and blood covenant with the hinterland people who he was trading with.

Please, someone should kindly reach out out to the current Amanyanabo of Opobo, we need to tell him something.

Anyone who knows the date he would be visiting Amaigbo should also drop it here.

I chooro I Perekule m?
Meaning: Do you want to deceive me?

cc
Slayerforever
Igboid
Ofoigbo
Eastlink
Ekealterego
Bkayy
Vintagepipes

"now guys do you know that from available records, slaves can't be king in Bonny"

did you see YOUR OWN statement up there?
yet you open your lieng mouth, all of you to claim Bonny Kings were igbos.

bit by bit the web that you weave will tangle y'all.

Alabo7978:
[b][/b]

"now guys do you know that from available records, slaves can't be king in Bonny"

did you see YOUR OWN statement up there?
yet you open your lieng mouth, all of you to claim Bonny Kings were igbos.

bit by bit the web that you weave will tangle y'all.

Let me hope you don't have a comprehension problem.

Ijaws claim igbos in Bonny were slaves or they were selling igbo slaves (a lie that has been tested and proven to be fake).

Now I am pointing out to you that slaves couldn't be kings in Bonny. Meaning, no matter how successful Jaja was in Bonny for example, he couldn't become King. Whereas there have been several Bonny Kings before Jaja was born who were igbo.

Eastlink:
Show us where Ijaw was mentioned as the language of Kalabari by Crowther and you win. Despite all the argument you are yet to show us the section in that historical article were Ijaws was mentioned. Or was Ijo, Ijaw, Izon, Jo-men, Jos non-existent then? If Kalabari was speaking same language as Bonny. And Bonny language was clearly spelt out as Igbo (looking at the word list and accounts of virtually all history), it means one thing. That both Kalabari and Bonny spoke an Igbo dialect still spoken today in Ndoki before the arrival of the Ijaws.

you want me to mention where it was stated that kalabari, Bonny is an ijo language.
and you now say kalabari speaks NDOKI..hey God..now I know you've been playing stupid play. Eastlink you of all people.
I thought you were smart, I dn mark you, I won't reply you again.

Vintagepipes:


There is a Kamalu.
He was a king in Bonny, I will find it.

However, I don't think the names of the king matters, because their kings from a small analysis I did had diverse names. Mostly English, Igbo and some sort of hybrid one cannot really trace.

The attached, is a list of the kings of Bonny recorded by Dr. Baikie.

If the first king was Igbo, then from the relationships of the subsequent kings, it is clear they were all Igbo as at the time Dr. Baikie visited the place in 1854.

It will be easier to trace the remaining kings ethnic foundation, from then onwards.

From anient records, we already know that King Opubo was clearly reported to be Igbo. What that means is that Perikoli (possibly the Perekule that the Ijaw landgrabbers are trying to twist) was Igbo also.

9Pluto:


Let me hope you don't have a comprehension problem.

Ijaws claim igbos in Bonny were slaves or they were selling igbo slaves (a lie that has been tested and proven to be fake).

Now I am pointing out to you that slaves couldn't be kings in Bonny. Meaning, no matter how successful Jaja was in Bonny for example, he couldn't become King. Whereas there have been several Bonny Kings before Jaja was born who were igbo.

lol, this is becoming interesting. so how did the igbos become king in Bonny when igbos who were brought to Bonny were slaves as revealed by Dr koeller and Samuel crowther?

did God almighty drop Igbo people from the sky on Bonny island?
"..Bonny is CHIEFLY PEOPLED by IBO SLAVES..."
have you forgotten the document?

sorry, no offense.
how old are you?

Alabo7978:
[b][/b]

"now guys do you know that from available records, slaves can't be king in Bonny"

did you see YOUR OWN statement up there?
yet you open your lieng mouth, all of you to claim Bonny Kings were igbos.

bit by bit the web that you weave will tangle y'all.

....Might this be a case of poor comprehension skills?
.....Or general poor education?
..... Just reading a few pages, I could see foreign ethnographers declaring that King People said he is of Igbo descent.

....I wanted to be sure, peherps, they were all bullshit. So I went further to confirm the sources and they were all true. And they have brought multiple account.
Igbo historians didn't write it!

This even led me further to see Oldfield's book.

...Guys, have not even explored Oldfield's "Exploration up the Niger" and Schön's book.

..Sigmund Kölle also added Obane as Igbo speaking.

If I were you, I would meticulously look for where Ejors were credited for holding stakes in those places because from what I can read, even Ibibios should have more stake than Ejors

Alabo7978:

lol, this is becoming interesting. so how did the igbos become king in Bonny when igbos who were brought to Bonny were slaves as revealed by Dr koeller and Samuel crowther?

did God almighty drop Igbo people from the sky on Bonny island?
"..Bonny is CHIEFLY PEOPLED by IBO SLAVES..."
have you forgotten the document?

sorry, no offense.
how old are you?

I don't know where you are headed with this your line of shallow logic, but Captain Crow clearly reported that both the Kings of Bonny and Kalabari were of Igbo ancestry.

Check the attached and stop arguing blindly.

1 The Bonny royalty was Igbo
2. The mass of Bonny natives are of Igbo ancestry
3. The majority of slaves in Bonny were also of Igbo ancestry.

Don't just concentrate on the slaves. Also try and point out the royalty and the Bonny natives, who are all clearly Igbo, ACCORDING TO THIS NEUTRAL SOURCE

OfoIgbo:


The attached, is a list of the kings of Bonny recorded by Dr. Baikie.

If the first king was Igbo, then from the relationships of the subsequent kings, it is clear they were all Igbo as at the time Dr. Baikie visited the place in 1854.

It will be easier to trace the remaining kings ethnic foundation, from then onwards.

From anient records, we already know that King Opubo was clearly reported to be Igbo. What that means is that Perikoli (possibly the Perekule that the Ijaw landgrabbers are trying to twist) was Igbo also.

Those lists are like the later list.
This list I will upload were generations before Peppel/Peprell. These were the fathers of Peppel--
.................I remember very very well, I saw this list by a certain Major Glynn Leonard around 1899-6, the edition was published ín mcmilian books,
Bkayy
Igboid
Ekealterego
SlayerForever
and our Ejor friends, you are invited to view this
Perekule and Foubra happened much later.

Alabo7978:

lol, this is becoming interesting. so how did the igbos become king in Bonny when igbos who were brought to Bonny were slaves as revealed by Dr koeller and Samuel crowther?

did God almighty drop Igbo people from the sky on Bonny island?
"..Bonny is CHIEFLY PEOPLED by IBO SLAVES..."
have you forgotten the document?

sorry, no offense.
how old are you?

Check these names, it went even farther, farther into the Kingship genealogy.
It is from a neutral source in Major Glynn.

Vintagepipes:

Those lists are like the later list.

.................I remember very very well, I saw this list by a certain Major Glynn Leonard around 1899-6, the edition was published ín mcmilian books,
Bkayy
Igboid
Ekealterego
SlayerForever
and our Ejor friends, you are invited to view this
Perekule and Foubra happened much later.

I believe that number 2 is "Okpara Ndoli".

Alabo7978:

you want me to mention where it was stated that kalabari, Bonny is an ijo language.
and you now say kalabari speaks NDOKI..hey God..now I know you've been playing stupid play. Eastlink you of all people.
I thought you were smart, I dn mark you, I won't reply you again.

Forget that case. You countered a point saying that Crowther called Kalabari language Ijo. So show us the section where the said Ijo was written as the language of Kalabari by Crowther.

Vintagepipes:

Check these names, it went even farther, farther into the Kingship genealogy.
It is from a neutral source in Major Glynn.

Chineke! All Igbo names Alagoa will be cursing the coming of the internet.

Identity genocide is a crime against humanity. Changing a people’s identity through hook or crook should be punishable by death.

Three types of Genocide was committed in Bonny/Opobo. The first by Isaac Boro during the civil war and the 2nd by Ijaw nationalist after the civil war. The 3rd ongoing since 1999 by INC/IYC.

Vintagepipes:

Those lists are like the later list.
This list I will upload were generations before Peppel/Peprell. These were the fathers of Peppel--
.................I remember very very well, I saw this list by a certain Major Glynn Leonard around 1899-6, the edition was published ín mcmilian books,
Bkayy
Igboid
Ekealterego
SlayerForever
and our Ejor friends, you are invited to view this
Perekule and Foubra happened much later.

Please, what is the title of this book.

It is amusing that all historical artefacts points at an obvious ijaw revisionism. I still ask, where were Ijaws when this story of Bonny and Opobo was been documented from way back 1800? Were they so invisible to be documented.

Someone is now so bold to claim Perekule ancestry and trying to supplant the indigenous language.

Eastlink:
Chineke! All Igbo names Alagoa will be cursing the coming of the internet.

Yes, see that Kamalu especially drew my attention. The name is common among Ndoki and Old Bende.
Some old Bende people now shorten it to Kalu and Kanu these days.

Oh, I just checked, even Ngwa still bear the name. See this guy contesting elections-

....That caught my attention first, even before the rest.

Vintagepipes:

Yes, see that Kamalu especially drew my attention. The name is common among Ndoki and Old Bende.
Some old Bende people now shorten it to Kalu and Kanu these days.

Oh, I just checked, even Ngwa still bear the name. See this guy contesting elections-

....That caught my attention first, even before the rest.

I am sure you won't see that Kamalu in all their fabricated records of Bonny Kings. The other ones are now being misspelt.

9Pluto:


I am sure you won't see that Kamalu in all their fabricated records of Bonny Kings. The other ones are now being misspelt.

Exactly. The Ijaws got away with that evil identity genocide by wiping away all Bonny Igbo origin, Kingship & people, concluding that Igbo are aquaphobic as only slavery brought Igbos to Bonny.

The fallout of this thread should be the creation of strong Igbophilic Bonny/Opobo groups as that the only thing that will counter the INC groups like BON, Speak Ibani etc.

9Pluto:


Please, what is the title of this book.

It is amusing that all historical artefacts points at an obvious ijaw revisionism. I still ask, where were Ijaws when this story of Bonny and Opobo was been documented from way back 1800? Were they so invisible to be documented.

Someone is now so bold to claim Perekule ancestry and trying to supplant the indigenous language.

The Lower Niger and its tribes
Author: Arthur Glyn Leonard
Publisher: London ; New York : Macmillan, 1906.

I believe the book clarified so many things but raised a few more debates, from the little snippets I can see.

It is about 600 pages.

Vintagepipes:


The Lower Niger and its tribes
Author: Arthur Glyn Leonard
Publisher: London ; New York : Macmillan, 1906.

I believe the book clarified so many things but raised a few more debates, from the little snippets I can see.

It is about 600 pages.

This book is about 100 years later than the first major historical documentation of Bonny from way back 1798, yet we are still looking for the ijaw connection to Bonny.

At least, we have ascertained that igbos were in Bonny as Kings, Natives and Slaves.

One of them should be bold enough and come to a live debate possibly on BBC.

9Pluto:


This book is about 100 years later than the first major historical documentation of Bonny from way back 1798, yet we are still looking for the ijaw connection to Bonny.

At least, we have ascertained that igbos were in Bonny as Kings, Natives and Slaves.

One of them should be bold enough and come to a live debate possibly on BBC.

........Herein, I reckon comes the connection. The Bonny Igbo ancestors and the Brassmen had a covenant with Brass gods at some point in history.
.......................... See, this is how the Igbani dialect came around.

9Pluto:


Please, what is the title of this book.

It is amusing that all historical artefacts points at an obvious ijaw revisionism. I still ask, where were Ijaws when this story of Bonny and Opobo was been documented from way back 1800? Were they so invisible to be documented.

Someone is now so bold to claim Perekule ancestry and trying to supplant the indigenous language.

They are trying to eliminate any trace of Igbo in Bonny people. IYC keeps intruding their threads, threatening them to abandon Igbo language.
You can see that the Ibani people are not having any of that.