₦airaland Forum

9Pluto:
okay. So you which of the ijaw are you so we can remind you when you forget?

You can keep it in your records if you so wish.

I'm from Sagbama LGA in Bayelsa.

JANK23H:
No...1548

whose account.

Please post it here.
There is something I also want to say when you guys claim centuries before 1800, but I won't say it here. I want to say it in a live debate.

JANK23H:
You can keep it in your records if you so wish.

I'm from Sagbama LGA in Bayelsa.

Don't you think this makes you incompetent in this debate since you are neither from Rivers State nor have your posted relevant document to support your claims.

9Pluto:
whose account.

Please post it here.
There is something I also want to say when you guys claim centuries before 1800, but I won't say it here. I want to say it in a live debate.

Duarte Pacheco Pereira's Account of the Lower Guinea Coastlands in His "Esmeraldo de Situ Orbis,"

1508 actually

RobbStark:
If comprehension is a thing, then it is on top of his wardrobe and he is too short to reach it.

Truth of the matter is that there are Ibo community in Bonny who are legit doing biz, they also gather on Sundays and discuss, even the newspaper said so but that guy slayerforever always have a way to twist things
Reason I don't want to respond to them.

2moro, I will going to Opobo in the morning, if they are free they shud come join me

Hahahaha. My man Robbstark. Didn't you see that Bonny main market video I posted. Everybody was speaking in the forbidden Igbo language

Even the Puttinbutt guy is an Afonja too.

JANK23H:
Duarte Pacheco Pereira's Account of the Lower Guinea Coastlands in His "Esmeraldo de Situ Orbis,"

1508 actually

His accounts are okay. But questionable. Many latter voyagers and scholars suggested his reports brought about more questions that answers on later review. I think Pereira didnt investugate deeply.

SlayerForever:
His accounts are okay. But questionable. Many latter voyagers and scholars suggested his reports brought about more questions that answers on later review. I think Pereira didnt investugate deeply.

Please show the negative reviews from other voyagers and scholars.

Ekealterego:
So, I want to get this,
You claim Bayelsa (now it's your mum)
You claim you are from Opobo (now it's your father
Just over a month ago, you claim you are from Bonny.

Bonny is motherland. Opobo is a child of Bonny
Bayelsa is mother State, not my mum's state, get that. Bayelsa is the only homogeneous Ijaw state.

JANK23H:
Duarte Pacheco Pereira's Account of the Lower Guinea Coastlands in His "Esmeraldo de Situ Orbis,"

1508 actually

Can you post exactly what you want us to see here?
I do not rate wikipedia for obvious reasons, however I have gone to the page you posted and I don't know whatr you were trying to show us.

RobbStark:
Bonny is motherland.
Opobo is a child of Bonny

Bayelsa is mother State, not my mum's state, get that.
Bayelsa is the only homogeneous Ijaw state.

Exactly.

Bayelsa is 673 km² bigger than Imo Nd Anambra state put together.
They will not cross the water to Ijaw towns and count them.
Because it's stone Igbos nd others they send that are afraid of water.
And count by proxy.

RobbStark:
Bonny is motherland.
Opobo is a child of Bonny

Bayelsa is mother State, not my mum's state, get that.
Bayelsa is the only homogeneous Ijaw state.

Does that include Abua and Ekpeye part?

The four main languages spoken are Izon, Nembe, Ogbia and Epie-Atissa.

9Pluto:
Does that include Abua and Ekpeye part?

Don't forget Ogbia, and Epie-Attisa too.

And the Urhobo/Isoko part too, Ofoni community comes to my mind.

Well atleast JANK23H is an Ijaw man from Bayelsa.
I checked his history already.


I guess we can now expect Alabo to rest that Moniker and log into another moniker to continue his mischief where he stopped.

The Afonja in him will never allow him leave this "Omo Ibo" thread.

Igboid:
Don't forget Ogbia, and Epie-Attisa too.

And the Urhobo/Isoko part too, Ofoni community comes to my mind.

I just updated it bro. Obviously, there is no homogenous ijaw state in Nigeria.

The four main languages spoken are Izon, Nembe, Ogbia and Epie-Atissa.

9Pluto:
I just updated it bro. Obviously, there is no homogenous ijaw state in Nigeria.

The four main languages spoken are Izon, Nembe, Ogbia and Epie-Atissa.

Yes!
Those are the main four.

Ekpeye and Isoko/Urhobo are the Minorities there.

Then there is Abureni tribe too.

Igboid:
Don't forget Ogbia, and Epie-Attisa too.

And the Urhobo/Isoko part too, Ofoni community comes to my mind.

I just updated it bro. Obviously, there is no homogeneous ijaw state in Nigeria.

The four main languagesite are Izon, Nembe, Ogbia and Epie-Atissa.

Igboid:
Well atleast JANK23H is an Ijaw man.
I checked his history already.


I guess we can now expect Alabo to rest that Moniker and log into another moniker to continue his mischief where he stopped.

The Afonja in him will never allow him leave this "Omo Ibo" thread.

At least, there is one honest person here. I am so happy for him.

9Pluto:
Can you post exactly what you want us to see here?
I do not rate wikipedia for obvious reasons, however I have gone to the page you posted and I don't know whatr you were trying to show us.

I've done that severally on this thread.

Igboid:
Yes!
Those are the main four.

Ekpeye and Isoko/Urhobo are the Minorities there.

Then there is Abureni tribe too.

You seem to have so much information about them. Has anyone being able to confirm that that video we saw the last time was actually Nembe youths? The one were they destroyed Alabo's house.

Seems from the information we are gathering Nembe may actually be different from izon.

JANK23H:
I have alluded to this on several occasions.

When the lazy British came,rather than do a thorough investigation coupled with bias,the likes of Crow described Bonny as an Igbo town.

Of course,if he approached a slave and asked his origin, he would have been told him Igbo.

Therein lies my grouse.Igbos initially dismissed the presence of Ijo in Bonny,until earlier accounts were produced.

The screenshot was just a snippet but a more interesting focus on the phonology and orthography of the Ibani dialect.
Rodger Blench enriches his work with older documentations, citations and a more careful examination of ibani dialect. I posted the pdf to rationalize Baikie's counting system in ibani.

Having established that the ancient kingdom is founded by ibani-ijos, the palace language is ibani and the titles is Amanayabo. The local politics is also controlled by the ibani-ijos.
I knew ibos would be quick to dismiss it but neglecting the import of it. That's why their energies is more focused on winning an academic argument and downplaying earlier records and current realities of Bonny.

The funniest part is ibos denying being "settled" slaves in Bonny. Who supplied the highest number of human slaves than the ibos?

9Pluto:
You seem to have so much information about them. Has anyone being able to confirm that that video we saw the last time was actually Nembe youths? The one were they destroyed Alabo's house.

Seems from the information we are gathering Nembe may actually be different from izon.

I haven't verified that video.
But I know that Nembe language is classified as Ijoid.
The possibility is that there could be an Igbo speaking enclave within Nembe, like they have in Okujagu at Okirika.

9Pluto:
I just watched an Opobo group dance on facebook now(Opobo connect) where they won an award in Abuja either yesterday or today.
You guys should watch it and come tell me if you understand what they were singing in your languages(ijaw or igbo)

The song goes like this:
kpakpa ngolo, kpa ngo(X2)
udu ya, ogele(X2)
etc

Jeez this childhood rhyme we used for play then.

Igboid:
Well atleast JANK23H is an Ijaw man from Bayelsa.
I checked his history already.


I guess we can now expect Alabo to rest that Moniker and log into another moniker to continue his mischief where he stopped.

The Afonja in him will never allow him leave this "Omo Ibo" thread.

Good job Sherlock Holmes!

Putindbutt:
The screenshot was just a snippet but a more interesting focus on the phonology and orthography of the Ibani dialect.
Rodger Blench enriches his work with older documentations, citations and a more careful examination of ibani dialect. I posted the pdf to rationalize Baikie's counting system in ibani.

Having established that the ancient kingdom is founded by ibani-ijos, the palace language is ibani and the titles is Amanayabo. The local politics is also controlled by the end ibani-ijos.
O knew ibos would be quick to dismiss it but neglecting the import of it. That's why their energies is more focused on winning an academic argument and downplaying earlier records and current realities of Bonny.

The funniest part is ibos denying being "settled" slaves in Bonny. Who supplied the highest number of human slaves than the ibos?

What earlier record are you talking about other than the ones that have been posted on this thread?

Meanwhile, please do you know when the title Amanyanabo was first used and where? I want to find out something.

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Slayerforever
Bkayy
Ekealterego
Igboid
Ofoigbo
Eastlink

Putindbutt:
The screenshot was just a snippet but a more interesting focus on the phonology and orthography of the Ibani dialect.
Rodger Blench enriches his work with older documentations, citations and a more careful examination of ibani dialect. I posted the pdf to rationalize Baikie's counting system in ibani.

Having established that the ancient kingdom is founded by ibani-ijos, the palace language is ibani and the titles is Amanayabo. The local politics is also controlled by the end ibani-ijos.
O knew ibos would be quick to dismiss it but neglecting the import of it. That's why their energies is more focused on winning an academic argument and downplaying earlier records and current realities of Bonny.

The funniest part is ibos denying being "settled" slaves in Bonny. Who supplied the highest number of human slaves than the ibos?

An Afonja doing what they are good at.

1.Earliest documents noted Bonny spoke Igbo

2. Baike noted that Bonny kings and people were of Igbo descent

3. Current realities is that Bonny speak Igbo language as Mother tongue

4. Historical data presented here clearly showed Bonny kings with Igbo names

5. We know that Slaves can't be King in Bonny


6. We also know that current Bonny Igbo is not an Isu dialect (this is the dialect of most Igbo slaves) but those of Ndoki, which proves that the Aboriginal Igbos of Bonny were of Ndoki stock, they were sufficient enough in the Island to make the Igbo slaves drop their Isu dialect for the Ndoki dialect of the Indigenes.

7. Conclusion: Igbo presence in Bonny are of two types. The Aboriginals who were of Ndoki/Ngwa stock and produced Early Bonny kings, and the Igbo slaves who were mainly of Isu stock.
The Ijaw usurpers would want the presence of Igbo Aboriginals in Bonny hidden, but Igbo nationalists have punctured all their weak arguments so far.

By the way, I'm convinced Alabo is same person as Puttinbutt.
Alabo got bursted and Puttinbutt reappeared.

Igboid:
An Afonja doing what they are good at.

1. Earliest documents noted Bonny spoke Igbo

2. Baike noted that Bonny kings and people were of Igbo descent

3. Current realities is that Bonny speak Igbo language as Mother tongue

4. Historical data presented here clearly showed Bonny kings with Igbo names

5. We know that Slaves can't be King in Bonny


6. We also know that current Bonny Igbo is not an Isu dialect (this is the dialect of most Igbo slaves) but those of Ndoki, which proves that the Aboriginal Igbos of Bonny were of Ndoki stock, they were sufficient enough in the Island to make the Igbo slaves drop their Isu dialect for the Ndoki dialect of the Indigenes.

Please, be specific with this your earliest document for future reference purposes.

It was actually Captain Hugh Crow of Liverpool(1765-1829)

Putindbutt:
The screenshot was just a snippet but a more interesting focus on the phonology and orthography of the Ibani dialect.
Rodger Blench enriches his work with older documentations, citations and a more careful examination of ibani dialect. I posted the pdf to rationalize Baikie's counting system in ibani.

Having established that the ancient kingdom is founded by ibani-ijos, the palace language is ibani and the titles is Amanayabo. The local politics is also controlled by the ibani-ijos.
I knew ibos would be quick to dismiss it but neglecting the import of it. That's why their energies is more focused on winning an academic argument and downplaying earlier records and current realities of Bonny.

The funniest part is ibos denying being "settled" slaves in Bonny. Who supplied the highest number of human slaves than the ibos?

They'd always discredit it so long as it isn't Crow's account.

I have some literature from the Dutch,French and Portuguese and would unleash at the appropriate time.

I've been trying to download "A Voyage to New Calabar River in the Year 1699" by James Barbot 1699.I only have access to snippets.That has some key information.

9Pluto:
Please, be specific with this your earliest document for future reference purposes.

It was actually Captain Hugh Crow of Liverpool(1765-1829)

Yes!
Ladies and gentlemen: Captain Crow record.

JANK23H:
They'd always discredit it so long as it isn't Crow's account.

I have some literature from the Dutch,French and Portuguese and would unleash at the appropriate time.

I've been trying to download "A Voyage to New Calabar River in the Year 1699" by James Barbot 1699.I only have access to snippets.That has some key information.

Can you volunteer for a live debate on this topic?