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| Re: The True Identity Of Bonny/Opobo(UBANI) People Facts Versus Fiction by DitariDisciple2: 11:23pm On Dec 07, 2021 |
Idiko1:So why didn't he say Opobo is Ibo in the video. Instead he was describing Ijaw ways of dressing and Ijaw culture. |
| Re: The True Identity Of Bonny/Opobo(UBANI) People Facts Versus Fiction by Liebermantic: 12:54am On Dec 08, 2021 |
No history book points to Bonny and Opobo as Ijaw..Ijaw thinks Igbo people will fold their hands and allow them claim ownership of these two strategic cities. |
| Re: The True Identity Of Bonny/Opobo(UBANI) People Facts Versus Fiction by DitariDisciple2: 1:01am On Dec 08, 2021 |
Liebermantic:The people history say they are Ijaw even their Kings said it, so go and die. |
| Re: The True Identity Of Bonny/Opobo(UBANI) People Facts Versus Fiction by Nobody: 8:28am On Dec 08, 2021 |
9Pluto:Sorry, which several authors made it known that kalabari and Bonny are not the same language??
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| Re: The True Identity Of Bonny/Opobo(UBANI) People Facts Versus Fiction by Nobody: 8:39am On Dec 08, 2021 |
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| Re: The True Identity Of Bonny/Opobo(UBANI) People Facts Versus Fiction by Liebermantic: 8:40am On Dec 08, 2021 |
DitariDisciple2:History written by Alagoa? You Ijaws think Igbo people are ignorant.Well, those history books are now being circulated.. |
| Re: The True Identity Of Bonny/Opobo(UBANI) People Facts Versus Fiction by DitariDisciple2: 8:42am On Dec 08, 2021 |
Liebermantic:Was Alagoa also their fathers, grandfathers and greatgrandfathers, that told them they are Ijaws? Or is Alagoa their Kings that told them they are Ijaws? |
| Re: The True Identity Of Bonny/Opobo(UBANI) People Facts Versus Fiction by giftibo: 9:35am On Dec 08, 2021 |
Ekealterego:Keep floating your ignorant. |
| Re: The True Identity Of Bonny/Opobo(UBANI) People Facts Versus Fiction by aribisala0(m): 11:04am On Dec 08, 2021 |
bomb24:Why can't Eboes debate logically without sentiment and abuse The moment here is a different view you get aggressive and abusive. If you have a strong argument let it stand on its merits But no you get personal and start abusing and name calling Because you are online you use the anonymity to abuse your better. You think swearing onlinemakes you a tough guy? |
| Re: The True Identity Of Bonny/Opobo(UBANI) People Facts Versus Fiction by Nobody: 11:48am On Dec 08, 2021 |
I will advice everyone under the ijo Ethnic nation to stop engaging with these fools. They are only trying to grow the pages in this stupid post. They are even avoiding me because they are no match for me or the knowledge of reality I posses. All of my questions and replies are ghosted by them, and then they engage others for the fear of not exposing their lies. Captain8 Putindbutt Ditaridesciple Robbstark Do not engage with these clowns anymore because they avoided the questions I asked them which they knew would expose them. |
| Re: The True Identity Of Bonny/Opobo(UBANI) People Facts Versus Fiction by Igboid: 1:04pm On Dec 08, 2021 |
Anonymous15:What evidence did you provide? You have one assignment: Provide a pre colonial or pre Civil war document written by neutral parties that said that Ijaw is Aboriginal to Bonny or Opobo. It's been pages and none of you can provide one. All you do is shout and threaten physical confrontation. |
| Re: The True Identity Of Bonny/Opobo(UBANI) People Facts Versus Fiction by CaptainIzon: 2:43pm On Dec 08, 2021 |
Anonymous15:that's how they are...... |
| Re: The True Identity Of Bonny/Opobo(UBANI) People Facts Versus Fiction by Nobody: 6:44pm On Dec 08, 2021 |
Igboid:I have never threatened anyone physically. Look at this excerpt from crowther from pepple to be sent to the British archives.
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| Re: The True Identity Of Bonny/Opobo(UBANI) People Facts Versus Fiction by Igboid: 7:36pm On Dec 08, 2021 |
Anonymous15:And where is Ijaw written there? |
| Re: The True Identity Of Bonny/Opobo(UBANI) People Facts Versus Fiction by Nobody: 8:43pm On Dec 08, 2021 |
Igboid:Are you serious abi you're joking ?? Are the okoloama people not a clan of the ijo Ethnic nation? I'ne togubelemo'o Alendi' o You better take Time. |
| Re: The True Identity Of Bonny/Opobo(UBANI) People Facts Versus Fiction by Igboid: 8:50pm On Dec 08, 2021 |
Anonymous15:Like you drank Ogogoro. The King of new Calabar was of Igbo descent during this time. At this time too, Ijaw people were already known as people of Jos! So if New Calabar was of same stock as People of Jos at this point in time, it would have been well stated. See the receipts here:
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| Re: The True Identity Of Bonny/Opobo(UBANI) People Facts Versus Fiction by Ekealterego: 9:30pm On Dec 08, 2021 |
Anonymous15:This book was published in 1854 by Koelle Igboid, for your viewing pleasure. You can see Obani at the end. Igboid, it seems at some point in history, citizens of Mboli did speak Igbo or at least were dualingual in terms of their mothertongue. Maybe as Aro influence waned, they lost the language.
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| Re: The True Identity Of Bonny/Opobo(UBANI) People Facts Versus Fiction by Igboid: 10:44pm On Dec 08, 2021*. Modified: 11:22pm On Dec 08, 2021 |
Ekealterego:So Ijaws basically stole the Ibani identity in order to impersonate the Aboriginal Igbos of Bonny and Opobo. Interesting. |
| Re: The True Identity Of Bonny/Opobo(UBANI) People Facts Versus Fiction by ThickSharon123(f): 10:51pm On Dec 08, 2021 |
This is interesting. So, Opobo and Bonny were living in a lie. Or did they know all these things but decided to join the scam Ijaw nation or organisation to get derivatives. If that's so, then it's okay. But I hope they never believed in the lie that they were born slaves from Igbo ancestors. That's cruel of Ijaw people. To lie and sniff out their heritage and their pride. |
| Re: The True Identity Of Bonny/Opobo(UBANI) People Facts Versus Fiction by Ekealterego: 1:22pm On Dec 09, 2021 |
ThickSharon123:Some know, some do not. They lived under a government that demonised being Igbo for long when Ijaws were in charge of that state. Even if they know, they were forced to suppress it. Secondly, they supported the Biafran struggle and were punished for it. Again, the media and everything were in the hands of the government of that day. The false propaganda that their language was the language of the slaves, rather the language of the slave and the king as well have been shouted down their ears for long. History hidden from them. However, many of them know the truth. |
| Re: The True Identity Of Bonny/Opobo(UBANI) People Facts Versus Fiction by OfoIgbo: 2:57pm On Dec 09, 2021 |
Igboid:For months now, I have been writing that Ibani that Ijaws like to claim, was just a mispronunciation of UBANI, which is why UBANI has a meaning in Igbo, but IBANI has no meaning in either Ijaw or Kalabari |
| Re: The True Identity Of Bonny/Opobo(UBANI) People Facts Versus Fiction by EzeCanada: 3:03pm On Dec 09, 2021*. Modified: 3:11pm On Dec 11, 2021 |
Ekealterego:From local accounts and findings, the subjugation, suppression and systemic brainwashing of the aboriginal igbos in these coastal communities including Opobo and Bonny, started by the colonial invaders. At the greatest height of colonization, the divide and rule tactic was spearheaded by the - Royal Dutch Company - their trading arm. They used the "divide and rule" tactics on the Igbos in the coastal regions as a punishment for the stiff opposition by their Igbo brothers in the hinterland ( our ancestors). In continuation of the divide and rule tactics, their fellow conspirators -the Nigerian state spearheaded by the fulani's - with the support and advise rendered to them by the British consolidated the conquest duing the Biafra civil war by carving out a region ( Rivers State) out of the Igbo territory naming it's port after Lewis Vernon Harcourt - the former colonial administration of the colony - in his honor. Let it also be on record, that our ancestors in these coastal communities opposed and fought the invaders with all their resources but finally gave in to superior firepower and conspiracy. The current descendants have been through systematic and pepetual divide and rule tactic of brainwashing and propaganda. The current and fraudulent ijo political franchise are only willing agents used to perpetuate the continuous game of subjugation and suppression. This is contrary to the common notion that the Igbos of Opobo or Bonny extraction are ignorant of their origin and history or wants to do nothing about it. |
| Re: The True Identity Of Bonny/Opobo(UBANI) People Facts Versus Fiction by EzeCanada: 3:24pm On Dec 09, 2021 |
OfoIgbo:Obviously |
| Re: The True Identity Of Bonny/Opobo(UBANI) People Facts Versus Fiction by Putindbutt(m): 3:46pm On Dec 09, 2021 |
Online Ibani & online Opobians ![]() |
| Re: The True Identity Of Bonny/Opobo(UBANI) People Facts Versus Fiction by Nobody: 9:01pm On Dec 09, 2021 |
Ekealterego:interesting, it is now very clear all of this English men in their journals consult mainly the Ibo slaves aboard ships or in England when writing. That number 9 is a full prove. look at number 9 (Bom) which is the name the igbos called kalabari. I will be showing you an excerpt where pepple and Samuel crowther properly detailed the original name and the nickname the ibos call it. Obani is also a name the igbos call Bonny (okoloama) It is obvious all of these books you paste here were information gotten from Igbo slaves in England or slave ships. Now take a look at this report king PEPPLE and CROWTHER was sending to the British archives. "Bonny is called OKOLOMA by THEMSELVES Bonny is called okoloBA, OBANI, IBANI by the IBOS New calabar is called BOM by the IBOS" And in your Excerpt, number 9 was written Bom,and the last line Obane. This excerpt below will clarify you. I will also call Igboid to come and view for his pleasure. Thicksharon123 and ezecanada you both are also welcome to see. Now compare it with the Excerpt from koelle Ekealterego brought. If Bom and Obane were detailed as towns, it was obvious these Englishmen got the information from the slaves they bought. King PEPPLE himself and crowther clarified it.
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| Re: The True Identity Of Bonny/Opobo(UBANI) People Facts Versus Fiction by Ekealterego: 9:35pm On Dec 09, 2021 |
Anonymous15:Not all Kalabaris were called Bom.. New Kalabar in those days was a multicultural, multi ethnic place. It is a relatively new "tribe" consisting of Ibibios, people around that area like Andoni, Abua, Brass people and then mainly Igbos That's why People like Asari will tell you full well his fathers and traceable ancestors are the Ediabalis who are Igbos. The Bom people are people of New Calabar that spoke Igbo As you can see Koelle's work was mainly about language. That's why his book was titled, "polyglotta Africana". This guy are you being willfully dumb? This is the only work done outside of that area that we have used since the inception of this thread. The rest was carried out in the Niger Delta area. The reason why I brought this at the end is because this was Sierra-leone, a very important place when it comes to publishing of most of the works written and the place of freed slaves. |
| Re: The True Identity Of Bonny/Opobo(UBANI) People Facts Versus Fiction by Igboid: 9:43pm On Dec 09, 2021 |
Anonymous15:You need mental evaluation. The Ibos in Sierra Leone had Igbo union and organized themselves into a caucus in the land. Admission into the union was strictly on being Igbo speaking. If we have people from Kalabari identifying as Igbos in Sierre Leone, it only supports what Captain Crow wrote, which is at that point in time, the King of new Calabar was of Igbo origin. So the common sense there is that at that point in history, Kalabari was bilingual in Igbo and Ijaw before the Ijaws hijacked the town. The Igbos from Kalabari who find themselves in Sierre Leone freely identified themselves as Igbos, likewise the Igbos from Eleme. The Igbos of Bonny and Opobo identified as Ubani Igbos. Grow a brain. |
| Re: The True Identity Of Bonny/Opobo(UBANI) People Facts Versus Fiction by Ekealterego: 9:48pm On Dec 09, 2021 |
Igboid:That is Such a tall order for him to attain you know? |
| Re: The True Identity Of Bonny/Opobo(UBANI) People Facts Versus Fiction by Igboid: 9:51pm On Dec 09, 2021 |
| Re: The True Identity Of Bonny/Opobo(UBANI) People Facts Versus Fiction by Nobody: 12:15am On Dec 10, 2021 |
Igboid:Who is mentioning Sierra Leone here? Do you see how irate you are feeling after busting your partner in crimes stupid Igbo interviewed excerpt? Crow interviewed Igbo slaves he was taking to England or the Americas. In his work, he refered to kalabari as Bom and Bonny as ebane which is what the igbos call it motherF*cker You were slaves. New calabar also partook in slave trade, and the ibos were brought from the hinterlands. Stop trying to claim any affinity with water. The IBO man was never one to choose fishing over farming. You look gullible trying to head strong your way to the coast. Take your Crow account and get out I showed you crowther and pepple himself, and you're here mentioning Crow who only got information from IBO slaves. Don't you see it in that excerpt that those words were IBO words? Ibos call kalabari bom but that isn't the real name, like I showed you from Samuel crowther and PEPPLE report. Now you're no longer claiming Bonny because that report scatters your lies, now it's KALABARI ![]() What a shame. Even the Opobo you also want to claim was named after King Opubo of Bonny. Of the 14 houses that followed mbanaso okwarazurumba, sorry Jubo jubogha, 12 were indigenous Bonny houses. Opobo(Opubo) reeks of ijoh. And Jubo jubogha is ijo, because he enculturated himself before the spirits and man. Ever since the south side refused to be part and parcel of your biafra, you began looking for lies to connect to the coast but you're just scratching on hard core granite with your fallacies. So you and Ekealterego shouldn't bring up Bom and ebane up, because PEPPLE and CROWTHER clarified things.
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| Re: The True Identity Of Bonny/Opobo(UBANI) People Facts Versus Fiction by Igboid: 12:39am On Dec 10, 2021 |
Anonymous15:You are mentally challenged. The book Ekealterago quoted was discussing about Igbo slaves in Sierra Leone and their Igbo clans in Nigeria. Seriously, are you high on Ogogoro? Because you are clearly speaking out of point. |
| Re: The True Identity Of Bonny/Opobo(UBANI) People Facts Versus Fiction by ThickSharon123(f): 12:41am On Dec 10, 2021 |
Anonymous15:Please, biko we have finished talk. Read the beginning of this thread to get the idea of what it summarises in general. And here's the summary, "Ijaws should be ashamed of themselves" trying to play smart with a peace loving people they've been with for years and even a century. I know your next line of action is Reno Omokris talk, "Igbos are too sentimental" tell me why shouldn't we? Isn't being human being sentimental, why do Ijaws or all other tribe love their own, and are trying to benefit from a situation, isn't that being sentimental too? That's by the way. As I said, "Ijaws should be ashamed of themselves." I had a friend in my early school days in boarding school. Her name was Ebiere Bakosi, she was my roommate. When I told her, where are you from? Would you believe the answer she gave me was my first instance of bigotry and hate; more annoyingly at an early age. I said, "Are you Igbo" she shrugged her shoulders like it was some curse and said she's Ijaw. Ijaw from where, would you believe she said Port Harcourt? Which is called Igweocha before. When I was little I never knew it had an Igbo name. That being said, my point is at an early age if Ijaws can feed their children with such hate for a tribe that they envy and want to be like them by all means crook. Then you guys better think again. The Ijaw dislike and apathy is growing every day in the south east and I believe that's why some of your leaders like, Asari Dokubo, Wike and the likes would pettily remind people they are Igbo for sometime and change when things are calm. Because they do know and believe when the Igbos shift their hate and energy towards the Ijaws, they are done for. So, in essence, don't bite more than you can chew. You've done a lot to hurt the dear Igbos, from ransacking their property, pillaging their city-states, and desire to push it further by chewing up their lands and heritages. Well, I've said my part. And with that little information you believe you have. I'll like to ask you one simple question. Why are you feeling jittery all of a sudden, if you know Bonny and Opobo are authentic Ijaws from their seed and origin, or don't you believe in the works of Alagoa again? |
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