₦airaland Forum

freeborn02:
What's your evidence?

You guys claim to be sophisticated, yet you display dumbness every time.


In your dumb head, anyone not in agreement with your dumbness is automatically an Igbo.

The evidence is in your words

Baba?! You & Tinubu eyes will soon open.

SlyDev:
The evidence is in your words

So, you now recognise people's tribes by their words?

Boy, you are dumb.

Praise him with any mouth you know. e.g
sugarcoated mouth, honeycoated mouth, breastmilkcoated mouth, etc. Just make sure president come to southwest in 2023.

freeborn02:
So, you now recognise people's tribes by their words?

Boy, you are dumb.

Continue I might be able to tell if you are from Abia or Imo

SlyDev:
Continue I might be able to tell if you are from Abia or Imo

Lolz. You are sophisticated in stupidity

When the dumb thinks he is wise

hisexcellency34:
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2021/12/state-of-the-nation-i-dont-sympathise-with-you-you-applied-to-be-president-akande-tells-buhari/

Old one, please enjoy the proceed of corruption from your good days in politics. Don't make remarks that will drive the youths in exhuming your time as gov so it won't overshadow the fallacy you put together and call it book.

hisexcellency34:
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2021/12/state-of-the-nation-i-dont-sympathise-with-you-you-applied-to-be-president-akande-tells-buhari/

Akiolu wasn't there and that tells you all you need to know

longetivity:
Trust me he was misquoted, this is fake

Not fake he told Buhari the truth

He pulled no punches

freeborn02:
Since the government has no power of corruption, why then did Buhari campaigbwd that he would eradicate corruption?

Politicians can promise u the earth and the heaven to get ur votes!

ArewaNorth:
Politicians can promise u the earth and the heaven to get ur votes!

Did you just say Buahri is not different from any of the corrupt dogs calling themselves politicians out there today?

Buhari is an old man, yet his words cannot be trusted. Are you saying Buhari is morally irresponsible?

onuman:
When you adopted unconstitutional Islamic Sharia criminal justice system and Boko Haram emerged subsequently and says it’s fighting for a Nigeria to be governed with Islamic Sharia criminal justice system, who do you want to continue to share one Nigeria with your Arewa north of Nigeria?

Let the assumed drug sellers and Kogi Jews and children of absentee parents have their own country different from yours. Why the stupid propaganda blackmail?

You can't just be fanatic and ignorant at the same time. Shariah system is practice in the North centuries before the coming of whites. The same way North adopted Sharia system some people also adopted customary courts system, our constitution allows every group of people to make laws that suits their culture and traditions. Therefore, stop being fanatic and know that Sharia system doesn't have the jurisdiction to judge people of other faiths. There is no shari'a system where there is customary court and vice versa.
All terror groups are born out of extremism, the excessive hatred and religious jingoism couple with extreme fanaticism portrayed by Nnmadi Kanu against Islam and North on his social media pages gave birth to IPOB, and it is evident that almost all IPOBs have the habit of religious fanaticism; they showed it during Endsars protest by burning Northern Muslims businesses and mosques.
Femi Adesina exposed how some churches are spreading hatred against Islam and believe me, average IPOBian hates Islam, u can attest it here on Nairaland.
Like IPOB like Boko Haram!

This old fool is sicked upstairs

The truth.

freeborn02:
Did you just say Buahri is not different from any of the corrupt dogs calling themselves politicians out there today?

Buhari is an old man, yet his words cannot be trusted. Are you saying Buhari is morally irresponsible?

In politics my choice of word is obvious. You say what people want to hear to get their votes, to some extent u can even lie to sit on that seat even if u have good intentions bcosnthe voters are so gullible and don't know who is who!


All over the world, I repeat all over the world politicians are known for common attitude though we normally exceed the limits in Africa.

Buhari has never said he is saint, he is perceived as one because it is obvious (especially to me) that he doesn't steal but he is so careless and reckless that people around him can steal without him knowing and he doesn't care to know because he so much trust them!

As much as I respect u baba akande I still won't agree with u on this ..who is more of a fraud if not for sai baba who lied to us and took us for granted

Teewhy2:
Thank GOD this baba know he is part of the country problem.

Every Nigerian is part of the problem, he just summoned courage to admit his own part. Can you do the same?

Elzazzi:
This is character of an average Yelobam man. Cowardice and treachery runs in their blood. This old man is known to follow Tinubu around. Imagine the rubbish he is spilling out all because he wants the North to give Tinubu 2023 Presidency.

Small boys like you without any sense of history just spew out nonsense from your mouth anytime it suits you. Your forefathers willingly served Fulanis as slaves in the first and second republic when it was obvious you were going wrong all in the name of greed. Just because you fell out of alliance with the Fulanis in this forth republic, you constituted nuisance by insulting every other tribes that host you, killing yourselves with IPOB, ESN, etc and asking for delusional Biafra you know cannot happen in your tiny land area. Where will you put all your people when you get your Biafra? May God help you and your greedy people. You called others cowards because you are not in government with Fulanis whereas others did not call you names when you worked with Fulanis. See how stupid you and your people can be because of your greed for power.

Same way he was talking anyhow to civil servants in Osun that made him lose his second term bid in 2003.

ArewaNorth:
In politics my choice of word is obvious. You say what people want to hear to get their votes, to some extent u can even lie to sit on that seat even if u have good intentions bcosnthe voters are so gullible and don't know who is who!


All over the world, I repeat all over the world politicians are known for common attitude though we normally exceed the limits in Africa.

Buhari has never said he is saint, he is perceived as one because it is obvious (especially to me) that he doesn't steal but he is so careless and reckless that people around him can steal without him knowing and he doesn't care to know because he so much trust them!

You are repeating the same thing: that Buhari is as irresponsible and corrupt like any other dog on the street.

And Yes, Buhari claimed to be a saint. He said he isn't corrupt. That's exactly whst he used to campaign

See this one talking about "cheaters" and he is one of them.

SO BUHARI HAS NO MOUTH TO COMPLAIN.

SO BUHARI HAS NO MOUTH TO COMPLAIN.

IS DIKKO UMAR WHO SPENT N9.7BILLION, SO CALLED TRAVEL ALLOWANCE TO ACQUIRE PERSONAL ASSETS NOT A FULANI HERDSMAN?

freeborn02:
So, you now recognise people's tribes by their words?

Boy, you are dumb.

We know ipobians by their perennial wailing.

rexwalters:
We know ipobians by their perennial wailing.

Lolz. Sultan of Sokoto and Shehu Sanni had been wailing for the past few days.

Does that also make them ipobs?

Let me ask; are you subscribed to Dumbness premium version?

You sound dumb and daft with every thing you write.

ArewaNorth:
You can't just be fanatic and ignorant at the same time. Shariah system is practice in the North centuries before the coming of whites. The same way North adopted Sharia system some people also adopted customary courts system, our constitution allows every group of people to make laws that suits their culture and traditions. Therefore, stop being fanatic and know that Sharia system doesn't have the jurisdiction to judge people of other faiths. There is no shari'a system where there is customary court and vice versa.
All terror groups are born out of extremism, the excessive hatred and religious jingoism couple with extreme fanaticism portrayed by Nnmadi Kanu against Islam and North on his social media pages gave birth to IPOB, and it is evident that almost all IPOBs have the habit of religious fanaticism; they showed it during Endsars protest by burning Northern Muslims businesses and mosques.
Femi Adesina exposed how some churches are spreading hatred against Islam and believe me, average IPOBian hates Islam, u can attest it here on Nairaland.
Like IPOB like Boko Haram!

Sharia criminal laws are not the same as Sharia civil laws.
Sharia criminal laws are not allowed in the 1999 Constitution of Nigeria; but Sharia civil laws are allowed, just as customary laws are allowed in the Constitution.

You are apparently a Muslim but do not understand the difference between Sharia criminal laws and Sharia civil laws.

You must seek to have your own Islamic country ruled with Sharia criminal laws you adopted beginning 1999 in the 12 Northern Nigeria Sharia states. Stop deceiving yourself with yourselves: you can't practise obsolete Sharia criminal laws in the north but strive to share one country with the southern Nigeria groups that bluntly resent Sharia criminal laws.

Boko Haram is fighting for a country to be governed with Islamic sharia criminal laws.

IPOB is campaigning for a Biafra not tainted with Islamic Sharia criminal laws. What's your problem with IPOB?

onuman:
Sharia criminal laws are not the same as Sharia civil laws.
Sharia criminal laws are not allowed in the 1999 Constitution of Nigeria; but Sharia civil laws are allowed, just as customary laws are allowed in the Constitution.

You are apparently a Muslim but do not understand the difference between Sharia criminal laws and Sharia civil laws.

You must seek to have your own Islamic country ruled with Sharia criminal laws you adopted beginning 1999 in the 12 Northern Nigeria Sharia states. Stop deceiving yourself with yourselves: you can't practise obsolete Sharia criminal laws in the north but strive to share one country with the southern Nigeria groups that bluntly resent Sharia criminal laws.

Boko Haram is fighting for a country to be governed with Islamic sharia criminal laws.

IPOB is campaigning for a Biafra not tainted with Islamic Sharia criminal laws. What's your problem with IPOB?

This is mere fanaticism. The constitution we have today is born in a Christian way of life, colonial masters system and colonial masters are Christians who are in a mission to propagate Christianity, banned the existing Islamic laws and replaced them by Christian laws. Should Christians have enough jurisdiction in their Bible it would've been the doctrine of laws we could've been using in Nigeria.
If we can sit down and write laws with penal codes and sections that guide our conducts then why the bigotry when Some people choose to live in their own way?
Is it not obvious that some people are so uncivilised that women aren't entitled for inheritance in their culture in Nigeria without any existing law backing this cruelty and is still practiced?
Stop dodging reality and know that all groups of people have the right to make laws based on their culture and traditions. Customary law is practice where Christians majority reside and Shari'a is adopted where Muslims are majority.
Despite Shari'a law, National laws supercede Sharia law and only Muslims are tried in sha ria court, Muslims have the right to say they don't want to be tried in Shariah court. So why the excessive religious fanaticism and bigotry?
In a sane society with ethno-religious diversity, states have right to adopt their justice system. In the U.S you see as demigods almost all states have their own laws and Federal laws supercede those of states.

We read and listened to some hate speeches of Kanu and his followers and it is indeed very clear that Religious fanaticism and ethnic jingoism is what beclouded their struggle. They targeted Muslims and their businesses during Endsars protest, they always claim there are no Muslims in the East, Muslims are being marginalised!
Average IPOB is driven by religious bigotry; check their comments on Nairaland, all they do is to descend their energy on insulting others religion, they're shamelessly calling every Muslim terrorist, they call out Yoruba Muslims all sort of derogatory names which is incline to hate!
Ethnic profiling and generalising criminality is very wrong, religious fanaticism and jingoism is a big cancer!

ArewaNorth:
This is mere fanaticism. The constitution we have today is born in a Christian way of life, colonial masters system and colonial masters are Christians who are in a mission to propagate Christianity, banned the existing Islamic laws and replaced them by Christian laws. Should Christians have enough jurisdiction in their Bible it would've been the doctrine of laws we could've been using in Nigeria.
If we can sit down and write laws with penal codes and sections that guide our conducts then why the bigotry when Some people choose to live in their own way?
Is it not obvious that some people are so uncivilised that women aren't entitled for inheritance in their culture in Nigeria without any existing law backing this cruelty and is still practiced?
Stop dodging reality and know that all groups of people have the right to make laws based on their culture and traditions. Customary law is practice where Christians majority reside and Shari'a is adopted where Muslims are majority.
Despite Shari'a law, National laws supercede Sharia law and only Muslims are tried in sha ria court, Muslims have the right to say they don't want to be tried in Shariah court. So why the excessive religious fanaticism and bigotry?
In a sane society with ethno-religious diversity, states have right to adopt their justice system. In the U.S you see as demigods almost all states have their own laws and Federal laws supercede those of states.

We read and listened to some hate speeches of Kanu and his followers and it is indeed very clear that Religious fanaticism and ethnic jingoism is what beclouded their struggle. They targeted Muslims and their businesses during Endsars protest, they always claim there are no Muslims in the East, Muslims are being marginalised!
Average IPOB is driven by religious bigotry; check their comments on Nairaland, all they do is to descend their energy on insulting others religion, they're shamelessly calling every Muslim terrorist, they call out Yoruba Muslims all sort of derogatory names which is incline to hate!
Ethnic profiling and generalising criminality is very wrong, religious fanaticism and jingoism is a big cancer!

Death for apostacy, stone adulterous women to death, cut out the hands of thieves, etc, these barbaric penal codes are among the punishment from sharia criminal justice system adopted by political and religious leaders of the 12 sharia states of the north of Nigeria in 2001.


Shortly after, Boko Haram emerged and says that it's fighting for a Nigeria to be governed with Sharia criminal justice system.
Boko haram should have been defeated long ago if not for sabotage of the Nigeria armed forces by some people of the sharia states in high political and military offices in Nigeria.


So why do you expect the mainly non Muslim groups in the south of Nigeria to remain with you in one Nigeria until Nigeria is either finally crippled by strife or conquered by Boko Haram/ISWAP/Northern Nigeria's sympathizers to Islamic sharia criminal justice system?

Remember that Muslim military dictators from Northern Nigeria supervised Nigeria's 1999 Constitution. So your talk about the Constitution having Christian origin is unfounded. The military dictators carefully excluded sharia criminal justice system from the constitution because they must have understood the menace its inclusion could cause in a society where people have different religious faiths.

onuman:
Death for apostacy, stone adulterous women to death, cut out the hands of thieves, etc, these barbaric penal codes are among the punishment from sharia criminal justice system adopted by political and religious leaders of the 12 sharia states of the north of Nigeria in 2001.


Shortly after, Boko Haram emerged and says that it's fighting for a Nigeria to be governed with Sharia criminal justice system.
Boko haram should have been defeated long ago if not for sabotage of the Nigeria armed forces by some people of the sharia states in high political and military offices in Nigeria.


So why do you expect the mainly non Muslim groups in the south of Nigeria to remain with you in one Nigeria until Nigeria is either finally crippled by strife or conquered by Boko Haram/ISWAP/Northern Nigeria's sympathizers to Islamic sharia criminal justice system?

Remember that Muslim military dictators from Northern Nigeria supervised Nigeria's 1999 Constitution. So your talk about the Constitution having Christian origin is unfounded. The military dictators carefully excluded sharia criminal justice system from the constitution because they must have understood the menace its inclusion could cause in a society where people have different religious faiths.

Is it not better to have Shari'a system for those who advocate for it, which defined the jurisdiction of criminal cases for thieves, murderous and adulterers than to have a lawless society driven by jungle justice? We have seen in numerous occasions how petty thieves are burnt to death, killed by beatings, killed in many inhumane and cruel manners; these are societies that don't like Sharia system but are driven by jungle Justices!
In addition, the same penal codes and sections that defined the jurisdiction in criminal cases in not only Nigeria but advanced Nations have death penalty by Electrocution, by hanging, by firing and all sort of barbaric manners, therefore how is it different from those you so much detest Sharia system with no conscience?
Muslims would be happy and won't in anyway resist establishment of Christian Justice system in Nigeria because we so much believe that Islam and Christianity guide humans in the best way of life!
You (your people) are in many occasions seen here on Nairaland jubilating the destruction of NE, mocking them, calling them terrorists. However, as Boko Haram is fighting for independent Islamic state, IPOB is equally also fighting for independent Biafra land, a state with no Islam or other tribes but only Igbos. Both Boko Haram and IPOBs are terrorists and are restricted to Eastern part of Northern and Southern part of the country respectively. Let them be dealt with by military with no aorta of mercy.
Nigerian territory is for the multicultural and multi-ethnic, multi-religious Nigerians who have the constitutional right to decide the guidance and conducts of their life.

The military did not write any constitution — apart from promulgating the enabling decrees.
On November 11, 1998, Abdulsalami inaugurated the Constitution Debate Co-ordinating Committee (CDCC) to “pilot the debate, co-ordinate and collate views and recommendations canvassed by individuals and groups and submit report not later than 31 December 1998”. It was not headed by a soldier but by Justice Niki Tobi, with Dr. Suleiman Kurmo as deputy chairman. There was no single military man on the committee. They went round the country to collect memoranda from the public through town hall meetings in Benin, Enugu, Jos, Port Harcourt, Kaduna, Kano, Ibadan, Lagos and Sokoto. They excluded military formations.

After all the frenetic debates — up and down, north and south, east and west — the Tobi committee submitted its report to the military government. Tobi said: “In the light of the memoranda and the oral presentation on the 1995 Draft Constitution, it is clear that Nigerians basically opt for the 1979 Constitution with relevant amendments. They want it, and they have copiously given their reasons for their choice in the different memoranda and oral presentations.
So they recommended to the Provisional Ruling Council the adoption of the 1979 Constitution with relevant amendments from the 1995 Draft Constitution.” Abdulsalami accepted the recommendation.
When the 1999 constitution was finally published, three of them sat down and placed it side by side with the 1979 constitution. They then did a clause-by-clause analysis. The trio were: Mr. Victor Ifijeh (the current MD of The Nation newspaper who was THISDAY editor then), Alhaji Yusuph Olaniyonu (SA to Senate President Bukola Saraki who was THISDAY politics editor at the time) and THISDAY features editor. They did a word-for-word reading and laughed themselves to stupor: this is pure plagiarism of the 1979 constitution!
There were only a few notable differences in the two documents, such as the 13% derivation for oil-producing states and the number of states in the federation. While the 1979 constitution spoke about 19 states, 1999 said 36 states, logically. They were only reflecting the realities on ground. FEDECO in the 1979 document changed to INEC in 1999 constitution therefore it can be concluded that the 1999 constitution is a replica of the 1979 constitution.
The biggest irony abt the contentious nature of our constitution is the vicious condemnation of the 1999 constitution by some prominent Nigerians who mostly took part in the previous constitution starting committees or got favour & protection by the system.

ArewaNorth:
Is it not better to have Shari'a system for those who advocate for it, which defined the jurisdiction of criminal cases for thieves, murderous and adulterers than to have a lawless society driven by jungle justice? We have seen in numerous occasions how petty thieves are burnt to death, killed by beatings, killed in many inhumane and cruel manners; these are societies that don't like Sharia system but are driven by jungle Justices!
In addition, the same penal codes and sections that defined the jurisdiction in criminal cases in not only Nigeria but advanced Nations have death penalty by Electrocution, by hanging, by firing and all sort of barbaric manners, therefore how is it different from those you so much detest Sharia system with no conscience?
Muslims would be happy and won't in anyway resist establishment of Christian Justice system in Nigeria because we so much believe that Islam and Christianity guide humans in the best way of life!
You (your people) are in many occasions seen here on Nairaland jubilating the destruction of NE, mocking them, calling them terrorists. However, as Boko Haram is fighting for independent Islamic state, IPOB is equally also fighting for independent Biafra land, a state with no Islam or other tribes but only Igbos. Both Boko Haram and IPOBs are terrorists and are restricted to Eastern part of Northern and Southern part of the country respectively. Let them be dealt with by military with no aorta of mercy.
Nigerian territory is for the multicultural and multi-ethnic, multi-religious Nigerians who have the constitutional right to decide the guidance and conducts of their life.

The military did not write any constitution — apart from promulgating the enabling decrees.
On November 11, 1998, Abdulsalami inaugurated the Constitution Debate Co-ordinating Committee (CDCC) to “pilot the debate, co-ordinate and collate views and recommendations canvassed by individuals and groups and submit report not later than 31 December 1998”. It was not headed by a soldier but by Justice Niki Tobi, with Dr. Suleiman Kurmo as deputy chairman. There was no single military man on the committee. They went round the country to collect memoranda from the public through town hall meetings in Benin, Enugu, Jos, Port Harcourt, Kaduna, Kano, Ibadan, Lagos and Sokoto. They excluded military formations.

After all the frenetic debates — up and down, north and south, east and west — the Tobi committee submitted its report to the military government. Tobi said: “In the light of the memoranda and the oral presentation on the 1995 Draft Constitution, it is clear that Nigerians basically opt for the 1979 Constitution with relevant amendments. They want it, and they have copiously given their reasons for their choice in the different memoranda and oral presentations.
So they recommended to the Provisional Ruling Council the adoption of the 1979 Constitution with relevant amendments from the 1995 Draft Constitution.” Abdulsalami accepted the recommendation.
When the 1999 constitution was finally published, three of them sat down and placed it side by side with the 1979 constitution. They then did a clause-by-clause analysis. The trio were: Mr. Victor Ifijeh (the current MD of The Nation newspaper who was THISDAY editor then), Alhaji Yusuph Olaniyonu (SA to Senate President Bukola Saraki who was THISDAY politics editor at the time) and THISDAY features editor. They did a word-for-word reading and laughed themselves to stupor: this is pure plagiarism of the 1979 constitution!
There were only a few notable differences in the two documents, such as the 13% derivation for oil-producing states and the number of states in the federation. While the 1979 constitution spoke about 19 states, 1999 said 36 states, logically. They were only reflecting the realities on ground. FEDECO in the 1979 document changed to INEC in 1999 constitution therefore it can be concluded that the 1999 constitution is a replica of the 1979 constitution.
The biggest irony abt the contentious nature of our constitution is the vicious condemnation of the 1999 constitution by some prominent Nigerians who mostly took part in the previous constitution starting committees or got favour & protection by the system.

Constitution of free and modern countries were NEVER made under MILITARY DICTATORS.

The Constitution of Nigeria was made under Military dictators from Northern Nigeria who practically dictated what was written in the Constitution. The constitutional conferences were a ruse. What powers have civilians under military dictators?
Or you think the southern Nigeria's politicians who have been asking for a democratic restructuring of the political structure of Northern Military dictators and making of a democratic constitution, are fools?
Worse, Nigeria has been irretrivably paralysed by conflicts originating from adoption of unconstitutional Islamic sharia criminal justice system by the political and religious leaders of the sharia states of Northern Nigeria; Secessionist groups in the east like the IPOB you detest, and the Yoruba Nation of west of Nigeria, know this.
Bandits are offshoots of Boko Haram. Will you pay American marines to stop Bandits/Boko Haram/ISWAP, since it's obvious that Nigeria's armed forces cannot defeat them due to the support they derive from civilians and soldiers in high places who are also sympathetic to having a Nigeria with Sharia criminal justice system applied in all the regions of Nigeria?
You can spin all your yarns online defending the political status quo in Nigeria, you are wasting your time. The inevitables: (1) dissolution of dysfunctional Nigeria, or to be kind to your lot, (2) a restructuring of Nigeria's political process with new Constitution, must come to pass, before long. No force on earth can stop either of the two.

Your lot demonise IPOB Secessionists but refuse to accept the fact that the political and religious leaders of the sharia states of the north carved out a new Islamic country for the 12 sharia states when they adopted unconstitutional Islamic sharia criminal justice system between 1999-2001, but clutch tight to one Nigeria because of financial gains from the south of Nigeria.