ivandragon:



It is obvious you are mentally unbalanced.

You are grasping at straws to justify what exactly? An issue with some of you impish kids is you assume those who have contrary opinions from those of your vile paymasters whose bidding you do are automatically from another ethnic nationality.

This simply makes an ass of you & shows you cannot tolerate dissenting views aside from those that support your narrow perspective.

If other ethnic nationalities chose a path that promotes selfish interest of a few, that's thier choice & for those who wish to call them out, they are entitled to do so.

So, you are free to sell your family so that tomorrow you can amass wealth for yourself & give crumbs to others, that is your choice.

You can have your opinion, you've expressed it and I'm here to tell you it's trash, myopic, clannish, tribal idea that has no place in national politics.

You can come from anywhere, Koma, Birom or Egun, it changes nothing about the fact that you're an emotional wreckage.

ivandragon:


Again, you are exhibiting signs of confusion.

You play your politics your way, so others cannot have contrary opinions?

I don't get how some of you reason...

We are all freely expressing our opinion here but yours is absolute trash and nonsense.

ACN that won elections in Anambra, Edo, Benue etc apart from SW must vote for any Yoruba candidate presented by any party is the most backward, retrogressive, outlandish and horrible political idea anyone should publicly advance.

ivandragon:


You are still not making sense.

You seem to want to argue a point simply because you are under duress to do so.

What was done has been done, does it mean others cannot have thier opinion on issues without your ilk jumping all over the place?

You imply it is nobody's business how that specific event of 2011 played out, you are the same person ranting all over the thread how you stick to the decision made by others... that's your position, so why worry about what others feel? After all, it changes nothing at this time.

It's a 10 year old issue boy, and we were clear of the strategy while dummies were laughing that SW was played out of any national position.
Since it changes nothing why are you almost having a coronary over a book written mentioning an open event? You and your Ilk don't understand it how a people can sacrifice an opportunity to make free money not by mistake but deliberately.

Eastlink:
I acknowledge the Yoruba’s for their political sophistication (whether you call it tribal politics na u sabi). According to Chief Akande, GEJ called him to seek help with names of SW PDP nominees presented to the party for Speakership. Akande notified GEJ to instead allow them the ACN produce the Speaker of the House as was done in the US, where the opposition participate in governance but the President switched off the call.

Ndigbo on Nairaland politics section what did you learn from this tale? Interest! Political & ethnic interest. The SW ACN supported Tambuwal because it will benefit their long-term plan of promoting the agenda that GEJ marginalized the SW so they can get to the centre with Tinubu and co at the helms of affairs instead of Obasanjo running the show.

Under GEJ, Ndigbo played politics of no identity, anywhere-belle-face and chop-clean-mouth-forget-tomorrow. Rather than pursue our interest first and long term agenda, Igbo leaders decided to be swayed by GEJ “I’m one of you” and my name is “Azikiwe” daftish mentally to follow GEJ.

Today, clowns and businessmen like MrChukwudi and Mr Vitalist are still pushing Ndigbo to toe the same stupidity their ancestors did under GEJ & Obasanjo.

your opinion is as meaningless as anything. Expressing an opinion contrary to others does make you intelligent oga.

Primitive politics of lying?

Rugaria:

Jonathan is Aguiyi Ironsi pro max..
He doesn't understand primitive politics and he will never do even after Buhari has schooled all of them..
The stunning part of it is that even if you make him president again, he will do same things! He has learnt nothing. He was built to be dense like that. Imagine making Dasuki your security advisor..

EraseTheDot:

Stop grandstanding. Can't you read. Why was Jonathan reaching out to Tinubu & Pa Akanda for a candidate in PDP when he could have asked them for a candidate in ACN. They very well saw through his manipulation.

In the meantime, President Goodluck Jonathan was pressing for a government of national unity, with a bid of sucking ACN into manipulative extinction.”



-erase the dot

Are you sensible at all? They supported Tambuwal from the same PDP against a South West candidate.

EraseTheDot:

You can imagine. Jonathan did not ask ACN leaders to choose the speaker from any 50 ACN members in the house, rather, he asked them to choose from PDP, so that PDP would use their powerful offices and positions to work against ACN in SW ahead of elections in 2015. Can you see Jonathan's sense?.. He thinks Tinubu & Pa Akande are fools.



-erase the dot

Where did you leave your brain? So because of party differences you will reject a person from your region that could attract developments to your region in favour of a northerner from the same PDP. That's why Northerners will continue to lead this country. Keep betraying your fellow Southerners, this time from your region.

Trentee4eva:

Are you sensible at all? They supported Tambuwal from the same PDP against a South West candidate.

So what? But you will expect Elrufai to support Osinbajo or Tinubu for president instead of Atiku or Saraki.

Or if Atiku becomes president you will now expect him and other northerners to support SE pdp candidate if APC presents a northern candidate.

EraseTheDot:

Stop grandstanding. Can't you read. Why was Jonathan reaching out to Tinubu & Pa Akanda for a candidate in PDP when he could have asked them for a candidate in ACN. They very well saw through his manipulation.

In the meantime, President Goodluck Jonathan was pressing for a government of national unity, with a bid of sucking ACN into manipulative extinction.”



-erase the dot

Read and reread, ACN was never in the majority in the house.

aribisala0:


Why are you taking panadol for our headache?

Will you tell us what to want?

It s no expose . It is what we wanted .It is stale there are dozens of threads with Mulikat this Mulikat that all over Nairaland
What is new that we did not know before

Your lies and propaganda that GEJ marginalise the SW has been busted.

It was even Akande Tinubu top that reveal it. Truth will be revealed no matter what.

I guys claim GEJ marginalise you. We will use this thread to counter and silence that propaganda.

stanluiz:
Your lies and propaganda that GEJ marginalise the SW has been busted.

It was even Akande Tinubu top that reveal it. Truth will be revealed no matter what.

I guys claim GEJ marginalise you. We will use this thread to counter and silence that propaganda.

The Heads of the Senate and Speaker House of Reps are not GEJ's to give. Are they appointed by the president?

If it was that easy Saraki would not have become Senate President Let us stop this fiction that GEJ had any control over the process.


Marginalisation is about those positions that GEJ himself appointed . Speaker was sorted out within a few weeks
He was in office for 4 years what did he do to make Yoruba feel they had a stake in his government

SO are you telling that Jonathan decided to punish the Yoruba people because Mulikat lost out
Having missed out on Mulikat who was the most senior Yoruba appointee in GEJ's government?


What revelation ? Something that we have known all along?
There are over a dozen Mulikat threads on Nairaland . So how is that a revelation?
We voted him in 2011

We do not need to talk too much he did not benefit us we did not support his second term simples





All this eating kiolanut with bitter leaf will not bring him back

Why will you begrudge an opposition for doing its job. If truly pdp had majority(not on paper), why did GEJ reach out to opposition. So you want opposition to support a big power broker(-to be) from their region of strength and later battle that same individual in subsequent elections? Why did opposition support Saraki in 2015? Oh PDP can do it but ACN cannot?
If it is truly about pleasing a region, why didn't GEJ make a SWner prominent in his cabinet which he doesn't need opposition input for?
Politicians play thier game and don't see ethnicity.
No betrayer here!

Buccalcavity2:
Why will you begrudge an opposition for doing its job. If truly pdp had majority(not on paper), why did GEJ reach out to opposition. So you want opposition to support a big power broker(-to be) from their region of strength and later battle that same individual in subsequent elections? Why did opposition support Saraki in 2015? Oh PDP can do it but ACN cannot?
If it is truly about pleasing a region, why didn't GEJ make a SWner prominent in his cabinet which he doesn't need opposition input for?
Politicians play thier game and don't see ethnicity.
No betrayer here!

They are mere PDP die in the wool supporters pretending to be taking a moral high ground. That's why they can't bring themselves to acknowledge PDP did a similar thing in 2015.

History555:
What manner of stupidity. You rejected a Yoruba man from pdp but accepted an hausa man from the same pdp. Only for the same hausa man to work against femi ambitions of being speaker in 2015 in preference for his brother from the north dogora. Can you see dat for the north blood is thicker than water. For the southwest its stupidity on full display

Pa Akanda confirmed what we already know. They rejected their own yet still voted the PDP. Pa Akanda is technically demarketing the SW. Thank God he acknowledged Gej reaching out to them. In the US opposition ain't given a chamber free. It's actually won based on seats garnered. Same party refused to practice what it suggested to Gej. Funny lots

Ovamboland:


It's a 10 year old issue boy, and we were clear of the strategy while dummies were laughing that SW was played out of any national position.
Since it changes nothing why are you almost having a coronary over a book written mentioning an open event? You and your Ilk don't understand it how a people can sacrifice an opportunity to make free money not by mistake but deliberately.

Lol.
Children hiding behind an anonymous forum. You wouldn't know a strategy if it hit you smack dab in the face.

Again, you & your kind with vampiric visions of grandeur are entitled to your strategies.

You may wish to sacrifice your children for your own selfish future plans, that is your choice. Others also have a choice to critic such action.

Ovamboland:


We are all freely expressing our opinion here but yours is absolute trash and nonsense.

ACN that won elections in Anambra, Edo, Benue etc apart from SW must vote for any Yoruba candidate presented by any party is the most backward, retrogressive, outlandish and horrible political idea anyone should publicly advance.

Akande stated what was already known & people commented, yet you are here stressing yourself & giving examples that do not correlate to the subject matter.

PDP wanted a PDP SW Speaker & solicited support from the then ACN which rejected the idea. Instead, it threw its weight behind a northern.

The crux is that the ACN started claiming that the SW was marginalised in the distribution of elective political offices at the NASS... but akande has firmly put that to rest & confirmed that Muki was sacrificed for selfish interests. Case closed.

Rugaria:

Jonathan is Aguiyi Ironsi pro max..
He doesn't understand primitive politics and he will never do even after Buhari has schooled all of them..
The stunning part of it is that even if you make him president again, he will do same things! He has learnt nothing. He was built to be dense like that. Imagine making Dasuki your security advisor..

The man is naive but then again he is niger delta now,they live to play second fiddle to fulani!

Ovamboland:


You can have your opinion, you've expressed it and I'm here to tell you it's trash, myopic, clannish, tribal idea that has no place in national politics.

You can come from anywhere, Koma, Birom or Egun, it changes nothing about the fact that you're an emotional wreckage.

Lol. Look who is talking about tribal politics.

Same you saying how it was a long term strategy for the SW to gain power?

You see why I said you are confused?

Emotional wreck? Lol. You are the one who feels the need to defend a position that exposes your shallow & selfish aims, a position you are entitled to.

slivertongue:



Pa Akanda confirmed what we already know. They rejected their own yet still voted the PDP. Pa Akanda is technically demarketing the SW. Thank God he acknowledged Gej reaching out to them. In the US opposition ain't given a chamber free. It's actually won based on seats garnered. Same party refused to practice what it suggested to Gej. Funny lots

There are 2 candidates presented by PDP and ACN chose the one that best suited their long term interest. Why are you wailing on their democratic choice? You hoped they would choose the Yoruba candidate but they chose otherwise and distrupted PDP top leadership plans. That's politics, ACN was not in existence to help PDP maintain its hegemony just as PDP is not expected to help APC maintain its hold on Federal power.

ivandragon:


Lol.
Children hiding behind an anonymous forum. You wouldn't know a strategy if it hit you smack dab in the face.

Again, you & your kind with vampiric visions of grandeur are entitled to your strategies.

You may wish to sacrifice your children for your own selfish future plans, that is your choice. Others also have a choice to critic such action.

You're emotionally underdeveloped, a 5 year old is probably better balanced than you are.

What do you know about strategy? All you know is aimless fight, strike and think later.

Critic as much as you wish and explain what you'd have done in that situation? Ngige was not voted to the Senate probably because you don't want APC to develop a power center in a PDP zone. That's politics. Any wailing on the loss of the Senate presidency by SE can only be seen from the angle of politics not pity. Only the uninitiated and simple minded will be deceived by the noise of marginalisation. Only time will tell if the strategy yields results.

You see this Mulika decision has yielded ACN very fat returns and is still proving to be the right call. PDP and it's supporters can't be happy with it.

ivandragon:



Akande stated what was already known & people commented, yet you are here stressing yourself & giving examples that do not correlate to the subject matter.

PDP wanted a PDP SW Speaker & solicited support from the then ACN which rejected the idea. Instead, it threw its weight behind a northern.

The crux is that the ACN started claiming that the SW was marginalised in the distribution of elective political offices at the NASS... but akande has firmly put that to rest & confirmed that Muki was sacrificed for selfish interests. Case closed.

PDP and Mulika ambition for speaker is for spiritual reasons?

Hope this kids will ever grow up.

Ovamboland:


You're emotionally underdeveloped, a 5 year old is probably better balanced than you are.

What do you know about strategy? All you know is aimless fight, strike and think later.

Critic as much as you wish and explain what you'd have done in that situation? Ngige was not voted to the Senate probably because you don't want APC to develop a power center in a PDP zone. That's politics. Any wailing on the loss of the Senate presidency by SE can only be seen from the angle of politics not pity. Only the uninitiated and simple minded will be deceived by the noise of marginalisation. Only time will tell if the strategy yields results.

You see this Mulika decision has yielded ACN very fat returns and is still proving to be the right call. PDP and it's supporters can't be happy with it.

Since you are getting fat returns, why are you crying more than the bereaved?

Why do you feel the need to so vehemently defend an action taken more than 9 years ago?

Why do you assume that critics are either Igbos or pdp supporters?

On one hand you say political positions should have a national outlook, on another hand, you claim it is a Yourba strategy to get power...

Can't you see you are confused & grasping at straws?

You have shown yourself to be very infantile in reasoning & a pupil of politicians whose stock in trade is 'killing' their own just to advance thier selfish interests.

But then again, you are entitled to your poison...

ivandragon:



Lol. Look who is talking about tribal politics.

Same you saying how it was a long term strategy for the SW to gain power?

You see why I said you are confused?

Emotional wreck? Lol. You are the one who feels the need to defend a position that exposes your shallow & selfish aims, a position you are entitled to.

Every region of the country comprising different nations come with strategies, alliances and compromise to gain advantage in quest for power and development of it's people.

Some plans will work while others will fail. Don't envy success but learn from your failures and go back to the drawing board.
Be a good sportsman, stop trying to upturn the table each time you lose and accept the results only when you win.

Tinubu is the biggest curse to Yoruba land since Afonja

What a sneaky, unprincipled and filthy man. The recent revelation that he wanted a muslim/Muslim ticket with Atiku and Buhari is confirmation that the man is scum.

Ovamboland:


PDP and Mulika ambition for speaker is for spiritual reasons?

Hope this kids will ever grow up.

Lol. You know, it would have been interesting to actually get to know you.

I can bet you are one of those political touts who hail politicians as long as they drop crumbs for them...

Ovamboland:


Every region of the country comprising different nations come with strategies, alliances and compromise to gain advantage in quest for power and development of it's people.

Some plans will work while others will fail. Don't envy success but learn from your failures and go back to the drawing board.
Be a good sportsman, stop trying to upturn the table each time you lose and accept the results only when you win.

Finally, something we can agree on & the beauty of democracy is even the minority will have a voice.

Eastlink:
I acknowledge the Yoruba’s for their political sophistication (whether you call it tribal politics na u sabi). According to Chief Akande, GEJ called him to seek help with names of SW PDP nominees presented to the party for Speakership. Akande notified GEJ to instead allow them the ACN produce the Speaker of the House as was done in the US, where the opposition participate in governance but the President switched off the call.

Ndigbo on Nairaland politics section what did you learn from this tale? Interest! Political & ethnic interest. The SW ACN supported Tambuwal because it will benefit their long-term plan of promoting the agenda that GEJ marginalized the SW so they can get to the centre with Tinubu and co at the helms of affairs instead of Obasanjo running the show.

Under GEJ, Ndigbo played politics of no identity, anywhere-belle-face and chop-clean-mouth-forget-tomorrow. Rather than pursue our interest first and long term agenda, Igbo leaders decided to be swayed by GEJ “I’m one of you” and my name is “Azikiwe” daftish mentally to follow GEJ.

Today, clowns and businessmen like MrChukwudi and Mr Vitalist are still pushing Ndigbo to toe the same stupidity their ancestors did under GEJ & Obasanjo.

Who is this Afonjaic impostor?
Getat!

ThatFairGuy:
GO POLITICAL, you'll understand more.

Why is Akande singing like a canary?

Rugaria:

You're a little confused..
One moment you are talking about the peculiar habits obtainable in Nigerias politics. Next minute, you are talking about Nigerias politics as if it's the most effective and the best organized. A president can't dictate his party chairman in Nigeria!? You mean to say that you can impose a candidate that Buhari detests on APC? You sure you have been to Nigeria before?

Yes! Jonathan was that daft and naive.

See how he allowed jega rubbish him. Even with a plethora of incontrovertible evidence against Jega before the election, Jonathan didn't remove him.

Now compare that with buhari vs Onnoghen.

ivandragon:



Since you are getting fat returns, why are you crying more than the bereaved?

Why do you feel the need to so vehemently defend an action taken more than 9 years ago?

Why do you assume that critics are either Igbos or pdp supporters?

On one hand you say political positions should have a national outlook, on another hand, you claim it is a Yourba strategy to get power...

Can't you see you are confused & grasping at straws?

You have shown yourself to be very infantile in reasoning & a pupil of politicians whose stock in trade is 'killing' their own just to advance thier selfish interests.

But then again, you are entitled to your poison...

You're still letting your emotion control you.

Mulika Adeola is still very much alive and playing her politics. She still has her democratic rights to remain in PDP, join APC or any party if her choice.

You are not PDP supporters but want to develop a coronary over PDP political failure that led to their loss of power. You can only deceive your fellow losers.

I support ACN now in APC and fully endorse their strategy that has delivered results, you can choke on that

nku5:
Tinubu is the biggest curse to Yoruba land since Afonja

What a sneaky, unprincipled and filthy man. The recent revelation that he wanted a muslim/Muslim ticket with Atiku and Buhari is confirmation that the man is scum.

Says okoro man from a confused, aimless, leaderless region

ivandragon:


Lol. You know, it would have been interesting to actually get to know you.

I can bet you are one of those political touts who hail politicians as long as they drop crumbs for them...

Typical emotionally undeveloped kids, little Hitler's who can't handle opposing ideas because any belief or view point apart from theirs must have been paid for.