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First Coutinho, Now Wijnaldum - Leaving Liverpool Has Become A Dangerous Move by obembet(f): 10:57am On Dec 16, 2021
This is not how Gini Wijnaldum pictured it in his head.

Five months into his Paris Saint-Germain career, the Netherlands international finds himself with a fight on his hands.

For his place, for acceptance and recognition and, perhaps, for his future too.

If recent reports are to be believed, then PSG may already be willing to let the 31-year-old leave.

Wijnaldum, apparently, has not settled in the French capital, has not been particularly welcomed by his team-mates and would be open to a move, in particular a return to the Premier League.

What a strange state of affairs. This had looked like the ideal move for all parties when it was confirmed back in June, but now Wijnaldum finds himself being linked with a loan switch to Arsenal or West Ham or Newcastle.

How quickly the world turns, eh? The perils of leaving Liverpool, you might say.

Like Philippe Coutinho before him, Wijnaldum has discovered that the grass isn’t always greener. Life after Anfield, it seems, can be tough, even for the best and the most dedicated.

Wijnaldum left the Reds a hero, a Champions League winner and a Premier League champion. He was the ultimate team player, versatile and durable, prepared to play in attack and defence as well as midfield.

He scored big goals and played in big games. In five years on Merseyside, in fact, he played in more games than anybody else. There were 237 of them in total, a staggering figure for a modern-day midfielder.

Life has been different in Paris, where Wijnaldum has so far started only 11 times and made 10 substitute appearances.

“Very difficult,” he admitted back in October, revealing that “the situation is not what I wanted.”

PSG may be romping away with Ligue 1, and have a Champions League last-16 tie against Real Madrid to look forward to in the New Year, but life is far from perfect at Parc des Princes.

Mauricio Pochettino is under pressure – himself linked strongly with a return to England – and his team, for all its dazzling individual quality, looks imbalanced and lacks cohesion.

They win games because of their talent, but the feeling is that they will come unstuck against better opponents, particularly in the knockout stages of the Champions League. That’s the true cost of having a forward line of Neymar, Kylian Mbappe and Lionel Messi, you might say.

Wijnaldum, you would have thought, would have helped in that regard, given his ability to sacrifice himself for the good of the team.

But while there have been flashes of late – two goals against RB Leipzig, for example, and a last-minute equaliser at Lens – the general consensus is that his performances have been below the standard expected.

He has been criticised, in particular, for playing too safe with his passing, and for not taking enough responsibility in building the game up.

Observers also say he has looked sluggish, both on and off the ball, and there have been moments where his team-mates – Messi and Mbappe, in particular – have openly expressed frustration.

Rather unfairly, it has been suggested that the dressing room, generally, is yet to accept him.

Wijnaldum was a big character at Liverpool, one of the club’s four captains under Klopp before his departure, but he has found PSG a little more cliquey and a little less welcoming. And certainly, he is yet to feel the love from the supporters.

Maybe there is a lesson there, given the interview Wijnaldum gave following his Anfield exit.

In it, he complained that he didn’t always feel “loved and appreciated” by Liverpool fans, particularly those venting their spleen on social media.

“If we lost, I was the one who got the blame,” he claimed, though the reception he got from 10,000 Reds fans after his final game for the club, against Crystal Palace in May, suggests his critics were in the minority. Certainly, Klopp and his team-mates knew his value. There were plenty of tears on his last day.

He wanted to stay at Liverpool, but felt the club didn’t value him as much as they ought to have.

Negotiations over a new deal broke down and were not resumed, and he saw out his contract in difficult circumstances, captaining an injury-hit side in behind-closed-doors games as the 2019-20 champions struggled to sneak a top-four finish in the following campaign.

PSG looked, on paper at least, an ideal move. Certainly better than Barcelona, where he was originally expected to end up.

Wijnaldum, selfless and consistent, looked the ideal player to help balance Pochettino’s side, providing nous and reliability, as well as top-level experience.

He still can, of course. PSG will win Ligue 1 and are capable of winning the Champions League too, for sure. Wijnaldum may still have a role to play, even if it won’t be as integral as the one he had on Merseyside.

His experience, and that of Coutinho, should serve as a warning, however, to those considering a future beyond Liverpool.

Do so at your own risk. After Anfield, these days the only way is down.

Source: https://www.goal.com/en-ae/amp/news/coutinho-wijnaldum-leaving-liverpool-a-dangerous-move/bltccbf2253c698aa7a

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Re: First Coutinho, Now Wijnaldum - Leaving Liverpool Has Become A Dangerous Move by Kingcalls: 10:59am On Dec 16, 2021
He dint know messi wud join....

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Re: First Coutinho, Now Wijnaldum - Leaving Liverpool Has Become A Dangerous Move by obembet(f): 11:04am On Dec 16, 2021
Kingcalls:
He dint know messi wud join....

I hope salah learn from this, players living under klopp are protected from this humiliation. klopp is a maestro in coaching players, turning average players into world class players. Emre can left and found himself warming up the bench at Juventus and finally parked his load to Dortmund. Coutinho left and we know how it ended, in pity and regrets. Gini wijnadum also followed their foot step and is now in delusion. klopp don't go for already made players but low level players and create history with them is he did in Dortmund turning them into world class players. if they decide to leave, then they leave and turn themselves into mockery

Lalasticlala

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Re: First Coutinho, Now Wijnaldum - Leaving Liverpool Has Become A Dangerous Move by kinibigdeal(m): 11:22am On Dec 16, 2021
obembet:


I hope salah learn from this, players living under klopp are protected from this humiliation. klopp is a maestro in coaching players, turning average players into world class players. Emre can left and found himself warming up the bench at Juventus and finally parked his load to Dortmund. Coutinho left and we know how it ended, in pity and regrets. Gini wijnadum also followed their foot step and is now in delusion. klopp don't go for already made players but low level players and create history with them is he did in Dortmund turning them into world class players. if they decide to leave, then they leave and turn themselves into mockery

Lalasticlala

Salah is also demanding for same thing that made Gini left. He’s also allowing too much of praise to get into him. I hope he use his head

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Re: First Coutinho, Now Wijnaldum - Leaving Liverpool Has Become A Dangerous Move by Jirehrealestate: 11:36am On Dec 16, 2021
So, Phillipe Coutinho developed under Klop?

This United hand-fans sef!

Coutinho that has been curling from 35-yards into back of the net along with Suarez before Klop ever dreamt of coaching in EPL is now a boy who learned to kick the round-leather under Klop?

Jokers.

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Re: First Coutinho, Now Wijnaldum - Leaving Liverpool Has Become A Dangerous Move by paulolee(m): 11:37am On Dec 16, 2021
coutinho was a star n still a star BT dt barca move didnt favor him n he would av made dt move away from barca n back to epl bt he kept refusing pay cut for EPL average teams like everton, Newcastle n even gunners..
just like hazard, Haller, jovic, Andre silver, not all players can play or adapt in all league n once dt mistake is noticed, its better if dey correct d mistake asap..
DTS wat d liiea of dimaria, lukaku, sanchez n even sahin tried to do wen dier big transfer failed, dey accepted n made a move elsewhere
as for wiljladrum, him n depay agreed to come barca n join koeman bt PSG gv him more cash n now he is paying d price for dt decision bt it doesn't mean dt barca would work out well..
like is all about gamble though..u win n u lose

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Re: First Coutinho, Now Wijnaldum - Leaving Liverpool Has Become A Dangerous Move by paulolee(m): 11:39am On Dec 16, 2021
Jirehrealestate:
So, Phillipe Coutinho developed under Klop?

This United hand-fans sef!

Coutinho that has been curling from 35-yards into back of the net along with Suarez before Klop ever dreamt of coaching in EPL is now a boy who learned to kick the round-leather?

Jokers.
tink say na only me see him blunders...na so one dey ague say KDB good as pep come forgetting dt was already made n was bought by pellegrini

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Re: First Coutinho, Now Wijnaldum - Leaving Liverpool Has Become A Dangerous Move by Jirehrealestate: 11:55am On Dec 16, 2021
paulolee:

tink say na only me see him blunders...na so one dey ague say KDB good as pep come forgetting dt was already made n was bought by pellegrini


Na hate bro. Pep remains the best manager in the world since 2009 till date. Others are just one or two season wonders.

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Re: First Coutinho, Now Wijnaldum - Leaving Liverpool Has Become A Dangerous Move by kenzysmith: 12:05pm On Dec 16, 2021
same fate awaits salah If he ever push 4 madrid move carlo ancelooti go bench crase commot he head u see that vinicus junior is real madrid diamond

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Re: First Coutinho, Now Wijnaldum - Leaving Liverpool Has Become A Dangerous Move by Jokerman(m): 12:08pm On Dec 16, 2021
Jirehrealestate:



Na hate bro. Pep remains the best manager in the world since 2009 till date. Others are just one or two season wonders.

Zidane?
Kopp?
Conte?

Are one or two seasons wonder?







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Re: First Coutinho, Now Wijnaldum - Leaving Liverpool Has Become A Dangerous Move by kenzysmith: 12:16pm On Dec 16, 2021
Countinho is d biggest fool u were at liverpool u were the star man there even when liverpool had salah n mane , u force ur way out by january just to join barca and were nt even regester in d champions legeaue squad then. Lesson not every player adapt to any league his style of play suit epl more than laliga due to his long range techinque if i were coutinho i jejely go to newcastle and become their star play rebuild my career he is still young just 28 and he is a playmaker nt a striker that has short span

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Re: First Coutinho, Now Wijnaldum - Leaving Liverpool Has Become A Dangerous Move by Jokerman(m): 12:23pm On Dec 16, 2021
Can't blame coutinho, even Pessi is flopping at psg...

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Re: First Coutinho, Now Wijnaldum - Leaving Liverpool Has Become A Dangerous Move by revived2: 12:54pm On Dec 16, 2021
All the best angry
Re: First Coutinho, Now Wijnaldum - Leaving Liverpool Has Become A Dangerous Move by FahBuLous: 12:54pm On Dec 16, 2021
Perades, verratti, gana, Herrera, Danilo...
PSG pattern is using two blocking 4 and 1 central...

I see wijnaldum warming the bench till further notice...

Nobody send am

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Re: First Coutinho, Now Wijnaldum - Leaving Liverpool Has Become A Dangerous Move by frankman365(m): 12:54pm On Dec 16, 2021
The later won trophy with the club(Liverpool).

Wijnaldum's case is quite different cos he needed to test other places after achieving what could be termed success with Liverpool.
Coutinho was desperate for success and he paid for that desperation.

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Re: First Coutinho, Now Wijnaldum - Leaving Liverpool Has Become A Dangerous Move by ImpregnaTor(m): 12:55pm On Dec 16, 2021
The Liverpool curse is real, from emery can, to coutinho and now windjadum
Re: First Coutinho, Now Wijnaldum - Leaving Liverpool Has Become A Dangerous Move by Ayemileto(m): 12:55pm On Dec 16, 2021
shocked

I don't think Coutinho will regret his decision sha.

You know how many trophies he's won since then? Both with Barcelona and Bayern Munich.

He left because he wanted to win the Champions league. He has 1 or 2 since then.

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Re: First Coutinho, Now Wijnaldum - Leaving Liverpool Has Become A Dangerous Move by Beiii: 12:56pm On Dec 16, 2021
Hard
Re: First Coutinho, Now Wijnaldum - Leaving Liverpool Has Become A Dangerous Move by Faber(m): 12:57pm On Dec 16, 2021
Is a lie...what of Luiz Suarez he no shine at Barcelona, all these theories depends. Many players left Chelsea and made it, Salah, KDB. While Hazard left Chelsea and flopped. It is not a Liverpool thing alone
obembet:
This is not how Gini Wijnaldum pictured it in his head.

Five months into his Paris Saint-Germain career, the Netherlands international finds himself with a fight on his hands.

For his place, for acceptance and recognition and, perhaps, for his future too.

If recent reports are to be believed, then PSG may already be willing to let the 31-year-old leave.

Wijnaldum, apparently, has not settled in the French capital, has not been particularly welcomed by his team-mates and would be open to a move, in particular a return to the Premier League.

What a strange state of affairs. This had looked like the ideal move for all parties when it was confirmed back in June, but now Wijnaldum finds himself being linked with a loan switch to Arsenal or West Ham or Newcastle.

How quickly the world turns, eh? The perils of leaving Liverpool, you might say.

Like Philippe Coutinho before him, Wijnaldum has discovered that the grass isn’t always greener. Life after Anfield, it seems, can be tough, even for the best and the most dedicated.

Wijnaldum left the Reds a hero, a Champions League winner and a Premier League champion. He was the ultimate team player, versatile and durable, prepared to play in attack and defence as well as midfield.

He scored big goals and played in big games. In five years on Merseyside, in fact, he played in more games than anybody else. There were 237 of them in total, a staggering figure for a modern-day midfielder.

Life has been different in Paris, where Wijnaldum has so far started only 11 times and made 10 substitute appearances.

“Very difficult,” he admitted back in October, revealing that “the situation is not what I wanted.”

PSG may be romping away with Ligue 1, and have a Champions League last-16 tie against Real Madrid to look forward to in the New Year, but life is far from perfect at Parc des Princes.

Mauricio Pochettino is under pressure – himself linked strongly with a return to England – and his team, for all its dazzling individual quality, looks imbalanced and lacks cohesion.

They win games because of their talent, but the feeling is that they will come unstuck against better opponents, particularly in the knockout stages of the Champions League. That’s the true cost of having a forward line of Neymar, Kylian Mbappe and Lionel Messi, you might say.

Wijnaldum, you would have thought, would have helped in that regard, given his ability to sacrifice himself for the good of the team.

But while there have been flashes of late – two goals against RB Leipzig, for example, and a last-minute equaliser at Lens – the general consensus is that his performances have been below the standard expected.

He has been criticised, in particular, for playing too safe with his passing, and for not taking enough responsibility in building the game up.

Observers also say he has looked sluggish, both on and off the ball, and there have been moments where his team-mates – Messi and Mbappe, in particular – have openly expressed frustration.

Rather unfairly, it has been suggested that the dressing room, generally, is yet to accept him.

Wijnaldum was a big character at Liverpool, one of the club’s four captains under Klopp before his departure, but he has found PSG a little more cliquey and a little less welcoming. And certainly, he is yet to feel the love from the supporters.

Maybe there is a lesson there, given the interview Wijnaldum gave following his Anfield exit.

In it, he complained that he didn’t always feel “loved and appreciated” by Liverpool fans, particularly those venting their spleen on social media.

“If we lost, I was the one who got the blame,” he claimed, though the reception he got from 10,000 Reds fans after his final game for the club, against Crystal Palace in May, suggests his critics were in the minority. Certainly, Klopp and his team-mates knew his value. There were plenty of tears on his last day.

He wanted to stay at Liverpool, but felt the club didn’t value him as much as they ought to have.

Negotiations over a new deal broke down and were not resumed, and he saw out his contract in difficult circumstances, captaining an injury-hit side in behind-closed-doors games as the 2019-20 champions struggled to sneak a top-four finish in the following campaign.

PSG looked, on paper at least, an ideal move. Certainly better than Barcelona, where he was originally expected to end up.

Wijnaldum, selfless and consistent, looked the ideal player to help balance Pochettino’s side, providing nous and reliability, as well as top-level experience.

He still can, of course. PSG will win Ligue 1 and are capable of winning the Champions League too, for sure. Wijnaldum may still have a role to play, even if it won’t be as integral as the one he had on Merseyside.

His experience, and that of Coutinho, should serve as a warning, however, to those considering a future beyond Liverpool.

Do so at your own risk. After Anfield, these days the only way is down.

Source: https://www.goal.com/en-ae/amp/news/coutinho-wijnaldum-leaving-liverpool-a-dangerous-move/bltccbf2253c698aa7a

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Re: First Coutinho, Now Wijnaldum - Leaving Liverpool Has Become A Dangerous Move by Uyi168: 12:57pm On Dec 16, 2021
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Re: First Coutinho, Now Wijnaldum - Leaving Liverpool Has Become A Dangerous Move by Justinlean02(m): 12:58pm On Dec 16, 2021
Messi remains the Goat of football but I hail Cr7 for always proving a Goat in the making. Changing leagues no easy ask Shevchenko, Torres, Hazard, Veron etc grin

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Re: First Coutinho, Now Wijnaldum - Leaving Liverpool Has Become A Dangerous Move by Uyi168: 12:58pm On Dec 16, 2021
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Suarez also went that way, yet performed very well.

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Re: First Coutinho, Now Wijnaldum - Leaving Liverpool Has Become A Dangerous Move by homealone00: 12:58pm On Dec 16, 2021
angry
Re: First Coutinho, Now Wijnaldum - Leaving Liverpool Has Become A Dangerous Move by homealone00: 12:59pm On Dec 16, 2021
Even Emery Can sef
Re: First Coutinho, Now Wijnaldum - Leaving Liverpool Has Become A Dangerous Move by freshalien: 1:00pm On Dec 16, 2021
obembet:


I hope salah learn from this, players living under klopp are protected from this humiliation. klopp is a maestro in coaching players, turning average players into world class players. Emre can left and found himself warming up the bench at Juventus and finally parked his load to Dortmund. Coutinho left and we know how it ended, in pity and regrets. Gini wijnadum also followed their foot step and is now in delusion. klopp don't go for already made players but low level players and create history with them is he did in Dortmund turning them into world class players. if they decide to leave, then they leave and turn themselves into mockery

Lalasticlala

Spot on!

Same thing with Kagawa when he left for Man Utd. I don’t know how Klopp does it but he makes average players look world-class.

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Re: First Coutinho, Now Wijnaldum - Leaving Liverpool Has Become A Dangerous Move by jrusky(m): 1:01pm On Dec 16, 2021
Then if its a sin to leave Liverpool or kidneypool then all players should avoid the club afterall Messi or Ronaldo never play in the club and they are still the world best. Let all player stay away then than their career entering jnto kidneypool coven.
Re: First Coutinho, Now Wijnaldum - Leaving Liverpool Has Become A Dangerous Move by dannypaul(m): 1:01pm On Dec 16, 2021
Players shouldn't allow themselves to be used and pressurised by agents, family and friends.

They are in the best position to understand themselves, what works for them, and the kinda environment they strive in.

Cotinho case is just a sad one. Kloop gave him the confidence and freedom to be himself, the playing structure favoured him and he felt he has arrived.

Not all players have the mental capacity to strive anywhere like Ronaldo.

Just know what works for you and stick to them.
Giggs, Gerald, Lampard, are legends because of longevity.

Salah should watch it thou!!

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Re: First Coutinho, Now Wijnaldum - Leaving Liverpool Has Become A Dangerous Move by Nobody: 1:02pm On Dec 16, 2021
McManaman
Owen
Torres
Mierieles
Suarez in a way if not for Messi
Coutinho
Emre can

Reason I dey pity Salah,make e no think say na him ability alone

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Re: First Coutinho, Now Wijnaldum - Leaving Liverpool Has Become A Dangerous Move by Jamieb(m): 1:03pm On Dec 16, 2021
Jirehrealestate:



Na hate bro. Pep remains the best manager in the world since 2009 till date. Others are just one or two season wonders.
If I hit you hammer for head. When did he retire from playing active football. 2009 kor, 1800BC ni.










Re: First Coutinho, Now Wijnaldum - Leaving Liverpool Has Become A Dangerous Move by Nobody: 1:03pm On Dec 16, 2021
Uyi168:
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Suarez also went that way, yet performed very well.

Messi factor ....Aside the MSN era,he did not replenish his Liverpool form in barca

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