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Roland17:
I think you guys are misconstruing we that question the sincerity in the decision to mean we tolerate indiscipline. Faarrr from that. You say he benched Auba against Spuds, what happened after that? Did Auba not get back into the starting 11 for the Europa league against Benfica and Westham in the EPL?

At this time Auba is expendable and that is why we are in this space. 10000%, if Auba was topping the scoring chart, he probably would have benched him, even though I doubt it but he would definitely not make Auba an outcast like Auba has become now!

Can you help me explain and justify what happened after Xhaka copped a red card, swore at the fans, refused to apologize to his team mates or fans and got right back into the starting 11 after his ban! Was that the first time? No… So let’s stop this thing.

How about the Ozil situation? Should we revisit how he was treated by Arteta and the club? Bro, management has rules and policies but I can assure you especially if you are in any high level management position that there are creative ways to handle policies and procedures.

Once again, I am not saying the decision is wrong, the club is absolutely right but there is 0 sincerity in the purpose from Arteta!

Sorry my response is coming a bit late, fell ill ystdy night and couldn't continue. I even missed arsenal match sef.

Back to the issue...

1.. I also admitted that Arteta was wrong in that xhaka-pepe red card favoritism. But I think since after that issue and Willian gone, He's been a bit more fair (at least for now)

2.. For the Ozil's situation, I know that decision was surely from above and not anything to do with Arteta. I see Arteta as a puppet in this case here cos Ozil was always starting our every match before corona break but he was suddenly no longer in the squad after corona again. New season came and even tho Arteta needed a no10, ozil was not listed in both our EPL and Europa squad list. I don't know about you, but I feel power above Arteta made that decision, and Arteta who's just gaining his ground at arsenal, I don't see what much he can do for ozil in that situation.

3... Well once you strip someone of the armband, it's a different thing entirely to benching a player for punishment and bringing him back into the next match. Stripping a player of the armband will have a psychological effect on that player no matter what. And as a coach, you wouldn't want that player in that state of mind to play. Even Emery didn't draft xhaka in immediately when he was stripped off the armband. I'll be waiting to see if auba will be drafted back to draw my conclusion on Arteta, but for now I don't see much wrong he did in this

Alot of folks here were talking about MO8 being named as captain, that can never happen in this arsenal current squid. he isn't vocal to be a captain, the ginger is diff when laca or xhaka holds the armband, another person who can give off that same energy is gabriel at the back. and everyone keeps talking about ben white and gabriel but forget that our right back have been so superb since tomiyasu took over, making everyone forget about belerin.

Roland17:
Nketiah is a box poacher, he has no business playing anywhere else. He does not have the pace or superior ball technique to maneuver and that is why he is typically inside the box. He has a great sense of positioning but still struggles with his conversion ratio.

That's my point yet he plays on the LW. Same as Martinelli.

Arteta now has the headache of who's gon be first choice between SR10 and MO8, as both are in the form of their career.

Roland17:
All that you just described is what Titi was doing with Monaco/ Juve until Wenger. Also, I disagree that Martinelli needs space, if anything, it is the opposite.

He has great abilities in small, closed spaces and we have seen a ton of that over the last 3 games. He has the technique to maneuver close markings, we saw numerous dribbles to evade defenders even when he had to go deep in the middle.

If we play like we played yesterday by having numerous offensive players attack the ball with movement and fluidity in the 3rd, there is no way he will not succeed as a CF. His movement and ability to make behind runs and take on defenders is a killer instinct of Striker.

I have seen enough to give him opportunities in that position.

He doesn't have the stamina to play in central roles so it is preferred that he evades defenders with his pace after taking up unmarked space. So he needs space. Almost all his goals (apart from the headers) were scored through his use of pace on space.

His goal yesterday is a typical example. He evades his marker with his brilliant diagonal run, using his superior speed, then controls the ball before finishing. Brilliant goal.

Jodera:
Sorry my response is coming a bit late, fell ill ystdy night and couldn't continue. I even missed arsenal match sef.

Back to the issue...

1.. I also admitted that Arteta was wrong in that xhaka-pepe red card favoritism. But I think since after that issue and Willian gone, He's been a bit more fair (at least for now)

2.. For the Ozil's situation, I know that decision was surely from above and not anything to do with Arteta. I see Arteta as a puppet in this case here cos Ozil was always starting our every match before corona break but he was suddenly no longer in the squad after corona again. New season came and even tho Arteta needed a no10, ozil was not listed in both our EPL and Europa squad list. I don't know about you, but I feel power above Arteta made that decision, and Arteta who's just gaining his ground at arsenal, I don't see what much he can do for ozil in that situation.

3... Well once you strip someone of the armband, it's a different thing entirely to benching a player for punishment and bringing him back into the next match. Stripping a player of the armband will have a psychological effect on that player no matter what. And as a coach, you wouldn't want that player in that state of mind to play. Even Emery didn't draft xhaka in immediately when he was stripped off the armband. I'll be waiting to see if auba will be drafted back to draw my conclusion on Arteta, but for now I don't see much wrong he did in this

The punishment for Xhaka swearing at fans and refusing to apologize was being striped of the captaincy. Also he served a suspension which kept him away from the team. But he remains a player under salary and should be available when we need his service. He was even almost sold.

Auba's case is a bit different because it is off the pitch. His is a case of internal indiscipline which for me is worse. Note that he is not under suspension. After being striped, he would need a time off and that's what he has got for MA. It would be fool headed to push him straight into the team after such a punishment. He would not be psychologically ready.

Leave Oga Roland. I know his history with Arteta.

germaphobe:
Arteta now has the headache of who's gon be first choice between SR10 and MO8, as both are in the form of their career.

SR10 no doubt. Odegaard will never score the goal scored by SR10 yesterday. He will just be caressing the ball till the opponent regroup or throw one wayward pass which will be intercepted.

That's why I don't really like him

Spy360:
The punishment for Xhaka swearing at fans and refusing to apologize was being striped of the captaincy. Also he served a suspension which kept him away from the team. But he remains a player under salary and should be available when we need his service. He was even almost sold.

Auba's case is a bit different because it is off the pitch. His is a case of internal indiscipline which for me is worse. Note that he is not under suspension. After being striped, he would need a time off and that's what he has got for MA. It would be fool headed to push him straight into the team after such a punishment. He would not be psychologically ready

Leave Oga Roland. I know his history with Arteta.

Exactly, the bolded has been my point since.

iamoyindamola:
Jodera
I told you Pepe is beyond redemption nketiah is even benching him
Be like Arteta Dan comot hand for him matter

Lol... I don confirm since say pepe na scam since this season na, Na against crystal palace I wash my Hands away from him matter sef

Auba was the first player to arrive for training this morning.
Report says he came 1hour 30 minutes early.

Remorse?

mostob:
Auba was the first player to arrive for training this morning.
Report says he came 1hour 30 minutes early.

Remorse?

Hmmm...
I read that he won't be available for selection for tomorrow's match again.
What's more? I read that he won't be training with the first team till the end of 2021 and thus he won't be available for selection throughout this 2021


Mehn, if this is true, then it's very Crazy from dem Arteta

Jodera:
Hmmm...
I read that he won't be available for selection for tomorrow's match again.
What's more? I read that he won't be training with the first team till the end of 2021 and thus he won't be available for selection throughout this 2021


Mehn, if this is true, then it's very Crazy from dem Arteta

Did u actually think he was still going to play this December ? Well I already knew by the timing he’s most definitely not going to play till he goes for AFCON and it is during that period that his future will be decided .

I know for the club to have issued a statement , strip him of the captaincy and all, it was never going to be resolved with a slap-in-the-wrist kinda punishment like missing one or two games.....

BlueRayDick:
Did u actually think he was still going to play this December ? Well I already knew by the timing he’s most definitely not going to play till he goes for AFCON and it is during that period that his future will be decided .

I know for the club to have issued a statement , strip him of the captaincy and all, it was never going to be resolved with a slap-in-the-wrist kinda punishment like missing one or two games.....

Mehn, na wa oo.
I never expected it. I thought one or two matches, at most three.


I want to hear your opinion, don't you think it's too harsh??

Jodera:
Mehn, na wa oo.
I never expected it. I thought one or two matches, at most three.


I want to hear your opinion, don't you think it's too harsh??

personally, i dont think its too harsh as a captain he knew how the rules and system works, and i believe he already had an idea of how something like this might turn out. taking him straight into the team now will surely affect other players especially since he wasnt of best form before the whole ish

Jodera:
Hmmm...
I read that he won't be available for selection for tomorrow's match again.
What's more? I read that he won't be training with the first team till the end of 2021 and thus he won't be available for selection throughout this 2021


Mehn, if this is true, then it's very Crazy from dem Arteta

Are you a believer now?

Is this where you say @Roland17 and iamoyindamola were correct all the while?

Roland17:
Are you a believer now?

Is this where you say @Roland17 and iamoyindamola were correct all the while?

CORRECT about what exactly?

germaphobe:
personally, i dont think its too harsh as a captain he knew how the rules and system works, and i believe he already had an idea of how something like this might turn out. taking him straight into the team now will surely affect other players especially since he wasnt of best form before the whole ish

This is exactly what Rolan.d and Oyindamo.la was saying which and I was disagreeing. So it's because of poor form they're witch-hunting him to at least not make the bench and at least don't train with the first team till after afcon abi(which we're not even sure his punishment will be stopped after that.)

Mehn, Auba kill person abi wetin? I swear this too harsh. Stripping him off his captainship and making him miss 3-4 match days, isn't that enough?

Mehn, I'm disappointed in Arteta and arsenal mehn! Are we in autocratic rule ni?

Roland17:
Are you a believer now?

Is this where you say @Roland17 and iamoyindamola were correct all the while?

100% correct Sir!
I raise my hands up

Jodera:
Mehn, na wa oo.
I never expected it. I thought one or two matches, at most three.


I want to hear your opinion, don't you think it's too harsh??

I think Auba deserves whatever is coming to him now. He occupied a position of authority but with authority comes responsibility .......

I know he’s had a dip in form since he signed the contract but yet I still believe so much in his goal scoring prowess ; in fact less than a week ago I was here arguing how he happens to be our biggest goal scoring threat amongst the attackers we parade.... However, I don’t condone indiscipline in any form.

If he’s been found wanting for disciplinary breaches 3 times as a captain who should be more responsible than other players, then I think whatever punishment being meted out to him does not mean he’s hated by the coach , but that the club management is using his case to make a bold statement to other players both current arsenal players and future arsenal players; u don’t disrespect the institution by going against its rules and then thinking after a game or two u will be patted on the back and asked to go and don no more .

Auba Na my guy but e don shiiit for church on this one ; as e be now church Agbasa!

Jodera:
100% correct Sir!
I raise my hands up

Thank you sir!

Jodera:
This is exactly what Rolan.d and Oyindamo.la was saying which and I was disagreeing. So it's because of poor form they're witch-hunting him to at least not make the bench and at least don't train with the first team till after afcon abi(which we're not even sure his punishment will be stopped after that.)

Mehn, Auba kill person abi wetin? I swear this too harsh. Stripping him off his captainship and making him miss 3-4 match days, isn't that enough?

Mehn, I'm disappointed in Arteta and arsenal mehn! Are we in autocratic rule ni?

The earlier we realize there's more to this the better

BlueRayDick:
I think Auba deserves whatever is coming to him now. He occupied a position of authority but with authority comes responsibility .......

I know he’s had a dip in form since he signed the contract but yet I still believe so much in his goal scoring prowess ; in fact less than a week ago I was here arguing how he happens to be our biggest goal scoring threat amongst the attackers we parade.... However, I don’t condone indiscipline in any form.

If he’s been found wanting for disciplinary breaches 3 times as a captain who should be more responsible than other players, then I think whatever punishment being meted out to him does not mean he’s hated by the coach , but that the club management is using his case to make a bold statement to other players both current arsenal players and future arsenal players; u don’t disrespect the institution by going against its rules and then thinking after a game or two u will be patted on the back and asked to go and don no more .

Auba Na my guy but e don shiiit for church on this one ; as e be now church Agbasa!

While your points are convincing enough, I still think the punishment meted is still way more than his actions.. I still feel it's too harsh, except there's more that they're not saying

iamoyindamola:
The earlier we realize there's more to this the better

Hmmm

Dortmund interested in signing Dino
Eventually he will still go to Bayern, I hope this won't be another gnarby

BlueRayDick:
I think Auba deserves whatever is coming to him now. He occupied a position of authority but with authority comes responsibility .......

I know he’s had a dip in form since he signed the contract but yet I still believe so much in his goal scoring prowess ; in fact less than a week ago I was here arguing how he happens to be our biggest goal scoring threat amongst the attackers we parade.... However, I don’t condone indiscipline in any form.

If he’s been found wanting for disciplinary breaches 3 times as a captain who should be more responsible than other players, then I think whatever punishment being meted out to him does not mean he’s hated by the coach , but that the club management is using his case to make a bold statement to other players both current arsenal players and future arsenal players; u don’t disrespect the institution by going against its rules and then thinking after a game or two u will be patted on the back and asked to go and don no more .

Auba Na my guy but e don shiiit for church on this one ; as e be now church Agbasa!

I have a feeling you work in a corporate organization, especially a Bank or a financial institution. You are very pragmatic.

I thought they said auba was earning 350 jodera

mirinder:
I thought they said auba was earning 350 jodera

Most credible sources says 350k, what site is this?

iamoyindamola:
Dortmund interested in signing Dino
Eventually he will still go to Bayern, I hope this won't be another gnarby

Dino and Saliba, who you prefer?

Jodera:
Dino and Saliba, who you prefer?

Both compare to chambers,mari and holding

Jodera:
Most credible sources says 350k, what site is this?

spotracdotcom

iamoyindamola:
Both compare to chambers,mari and holding

Saliba sef be like say him no wan come arsenal again. The way him dey run him mouth cho cho cho about wetin arsenal do am eh... Lol

As for Dino, e be like say arsenal sef no rate am. To be honest, I won't be fused if we lose him sha. If him shine, good luck to him and his career. If he comes back here, I will support him and wish him the very best of success here
Another thing is that, I no even dey vex say gnabry dey ball for Bayern and that arsenal lost him sef. He really wanted to go back to Germany and arsenal felt they never needed him.

Jodera:
Saliba sef be like say him no wan come arsenal again. The way him dey run him mouth cho cho cho about wetin arsenal do am eh... Lol

As for Dino, e be like say arsenal sef no rate am. To be honest, I won't be fused if we lose him sha. If him shine, good luck to him and his career. If he comes back here, I will support him and wish him the very best of success here
Another thing is that, I no even dey vex say gnabry dey ball for Bayern and that arsenal lost him sef. He really wanted to go back to Germany and arsenal felt they never needed him.

Gnarby just wanted to play ball, he never wanted to leave wengay felt he didn't need him cos he thought he had the arrays of English talents