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FahBuLous:
Perades, verratti, gana, Herrera, Danilo...
PSG pattern is using two blocking 4 and 1 central...

I see wijnaldum warming the bench till further notice...

Nobody send am

Verratti is a starman in PSG, he is established in PSG, a first team player in Italian national team.

Indispensable85:
Consolation!
Nobody even remembers there was a coutinho. The level he was in Liverpool was world's best player realm. What has he won that Liverpool has not won since he left?
Go sleep jooor. By the way I'm not a Liverpool fan but the truth must be said. Some moves can take you to oblivion.

consolation for what exactly ?

He has won 3 league titles and Liverpool has won just 1

Pass your point without being rude ,which one be go sleep ?

Kids everywhere

Timoleon:
To buttress your point, when Barca and Messi thought they were too big for Suarez, he left for ATM and was the star man as they won the league. So I wonder where his sentiment is coming from

Lol don’t mind him

Suarez did well at Barca and did well at ATM

Maobichek:
Verratti is a starman in PSG, he is established in PSG, a first team player in Italian national team.

Very true...

duchess02:
just like ur brain flopped with this comment

Lol... .. many a pained Pessi fans...

obembet:
This is not how Gini Wijnaldum pictured it in his head.

Five months into his Paris Saint-Germain career, the Netherlands international finds himself with a fight on his hands.

For his place, for acceptance and recognition and, perhaps, for his future too.

If recent reports are to be believed, then PSG may already be willing to let the 31-year-old leave.

Wijnaldum, apparently, has not settled in the French capital, has not been particularly welcomed by his team-mates and would be open to a move, in particular a return to the Premier League.

What a strange state of affairs. This had looked like the ideal move for all parties when it was confirmed back in June, but now Wijnaldum finds himself being linked with a loan switch to Arsenal or West Ham or Newcastle.

How quickly the world turns, eh? The perils of leaving Liverpool, you might say.

Like Philippe Coutinho before him, Wijnaldum has discovered that the grass isn’t always greener. Life after Anfield, it seems, can be tough, even for the best and the most dedicated.

Wijnaldum left the Reds a hero, a Champions League winner and a Premier League champion. He was the ultimate team player, versatile and durable, prepared to play in attack and defence as well as midfield.

He scored big goals and played in big games. In five years on Merseyside, in fact, he played in more games than anybody else. There were 237 of them in total, a staggering figure for a modern-day midfielder.

Life has been different in Paris, where Wijnaldum has so far started only 11 times and made 10 substitute appearances.

“Very difficult,” he admitted back in October, revealing that “the situation is not what I wanted.”

PSG may be romping away with Ligue 1, and have a Champions League last-16 tie against Real Madrid to look forward to in the New Year, but life is far from perfect at Parc des Princes.

Mauricio Pochettino is under pressure – himself linked strongly with a return to England – and his team, for all its dazzling individual quality, looks imbalanced and lacks cohesion.

They win games because of their talent, but the feeling is that they will come unstuck against better opponents, particularly in the knockout stages of the Champions League. That’s the true cost of having a forward line of Neymar, Kylian Mbappe and Lionel Messi, you might say.

Wijnaldum, you would have thought, would have helped in that regard, given his ability to sacrifice himself for the good of the team.

But while there have been flashes of late – two goals against RB Leipzig, for example, and a last-minute equaliser at Lens – the general consensus is that his performances have been below the standard expected.

He has been criticised, in particular, for playing too safe with his passing, and for not taking enough responsibility in building the game up.

Observers also say he has looked sluggish, both on and off the ball, and there have been moments where his team-mates – Messi and Mbappe, in particular – have openly expressed frustration.

Rather unfairly, it has been suggested that the dressing room, generally, is yet to accept him.

Wijnaldum was a big character at Liverpool, one of the club’s four captains under Klopp before his departure, but he has found PSG a little more cliquey and a little less welcoming. And certainly, he is yet to feel the love from the supporters.

Maybe there is a lesson there, given the interview Wijnaldum gave following his Anfield exit.

In it, he complained that he didn’t always feel “loved and appreciated” by Liverpool fans, particularly those venting their spleen on social media.

“If we lost, I was the one who got the blame,” he claimed, though the reception he got from 10,000 Reds fans after his final game for the club, against Crystal Palace in May, suggests his critics were in the minority. Certainly, Klopp and his team-mates knew his value. There were plenty of tears on his last day.

He wanted to stay at Liverpool, but felt the club didn’t value him as much as they ought to have.

Negotiations over a new deal broke down and were not resumed, and he saw out his contract in difficult circumstances, captaining an injury-hit side in behind-closed-doors games as the 2019-20 champions struggled to sneak a top-four finish in the following campaign.

PSG looked, on paper at least, an ideal move. Certainly better than Barcelona, where he was originally expected to end up.

Wijnaldum, selfless and consistent, looked the ideal player to help balance Pochettino’s side, providing nous and reliability, as well as top-level experience.

He still can, of course. PSG will win Ligue 1 and are capable of winning the Champions League too, for sure. Wijnaldum may still have a role to play, even if it won’t be as integral as the one he had on Merseyside.

His experience, and that of Coutinho, should serve as a warning, however, to those considering a future beyond Liverpool.

Do so at your own risk. After Anfield, these days the only way is down.

Source: https://www.goal.com/en-ae/amp/news/coutinho-wijnaldum-leaving-liverpool-a-dangerous-move/bltccbf2253c698aa7a

what about Sterling that moved to man city

Hmmmm

andrewbaba44:
consolation for what exactly ?

He has won 3 league titles and Liverpool has won just 1

Pass your point without being rude ,which one be go sleep ?

Kids everywhere

Go sleep jooor
Liverpool won champions league,super cup, world club cup in his absence. Did he win any of these with Barca?
Go sleep jooor little chap

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Indispensable85:
Go sleep jooor
Liverpool won champions league,super cup, world club cup in his absence. Did he win any of these with Barca?
Go sleep jooor little chap

He won the champions league with Bayern ,infact he won treble with Bayern ,something that Liverpool didn’t do

You are just senseless Like your useless father and your olosho mama that’s why you have no manners

Common get out of here ,stupid kid

Spits

freshalien:
Has Pep won the CL since leaving Barca? He hasn’t even smelt the final of that competition since leaving Barca. There you go, you have your answer.

Se bi na round of 16 he commot from last year

andrewbaba44:
He won the champions league with Bayern ,infact he won treble with Bayern ,something that Liverpool didn’t do

You are just senseless Like your useless father and your olosho mama that’s why you have no manners

Common get out of here ,stupid kid

Spits

Lol.... I'm happy you're pained. Na dat pain go kill u. A fool like you comparing bundesliga to epl. You're a fool from birth. A product of a cursed generation. Woe betide your foolish father that impregnated a dirty olosho like ur mother to give birth to a misbegotten lunatic like you. Ewu!

Indispensable85:
Lol.... I'm happy you're pained. Na dat pain go kill u. A fool like you comparing bundesliga to epl. You're a fool from birth. A product of a cursed generation. Woe betide your foolish father that impregnated a dirty olosho like ur mother to give birth to a misbegotten lunatic like you. Ewu!

Illiteracy Na disease ,the pained one is clear for all to see nah ,I Dey give out my opinion you kept on being rude despite the warnings , to see person wey dey frustrated no Dey hard

So because I said Coutinho won things at Bayern means I am comparing bundesliga to the epl ,so bundesliga no be league title ,he also won Laliga at Barca ,he won the champions league maybe Bayern champions league is different from Liverpool own

Sadist you can go to hell and continue your tears

Finally I will go and sleep as you have been saying ,I will go and sleep with your olosho mother and give her 20 naira because that’s her worth

Now GTFOH

Kingosytex:
Coutinho has achieved more since his move than he would have achieved in Liverpool.
He's earning higher, has a treble to his name as well as league and cup titles in Spain.

What was his contribution to those laurels

Manesalah:
McManaman
Owen
Torres
Mierieles
Suarez in a way if not for Messi
Coutinho
Emre can

Reason I dey pity Salah,make e no think say na him ability alone

Messi or no Messi, Suarez is an exceptional player that will thrive anywhere. He and Neymar complemented Messi, their friendship bond remains strong till now. Suarez became a legend in every team he played from Ajax to Liverpool to Barcelona and now Athletico Madrid where he won the league for them in his first season there.

Na coutinho pain pass imagine what he would av achieved with this current Liverpool squad

andrewbaba44:
consolation for what exactly ?

He has won 3 league titles and Liverpool has won just 1

Pass your point without being rude ,which one be go sleep ?

Kids everywhere

Na you dey act like emotional kid here sha.

Or are you related to Coutinho

Indispensable85:
Go sleep jooor
Liverpool won champions league,super cup, world club cup in his absence. Did he win any of these with Barca?
Go sleep jooor little chap

Don't mind that guy. He's just being unnecessarily emotional.
Even Coutinho knew he made a major career mistake. He would have been elevated to god status in Liverpool and ranked among the club legends if he had stayed a bit longer under Klopp to win the premier League and Champions league with Liverpool.

Alexis11:
Na you dey act like emotional kid here sha.

Or are you related to Coutinho

Emotional by saying Coutinho still won more things away from Liverpool with a higher salary

I should be asking you that question because you think his destiny is tied around Liverpool

One last thing ,no player will even choose to stay at Liverpool then when a team like Barca comes calling with a far better offer and playing with Messi .

It depends on the player , the mindset and the club he moved .
Klopp is good . He has a unique pattern that takes hard work and tactics above technic . That’s why average ( good ) players ( Milner, Chamberlain, Henderson , Robertson , Gini and Can before they left Shmelzer, Piscek etc in BVB) etc will thrive under him as long as you work-rate on and off the ball and follow his tactics . And any player that has brain and technique ( Sallah, Mane, Firmino, Alcantara, Fabinho, TAA, Lewandowski , Hummels , Gotze @BVB ) and is willing to work harder will still excel under Klopp .
To the @op , we live in world football dominated by stats .
Since stats counts more and will be remembered more , we have to judge players by stats now . Using it , ahead of on pitch balling I’d say ,
Coutinho , Can, Sterling , Suarez , Torres, did better after leaving Liverpool. Till Liverpool win more League titles and UCL under Klopp without them then you will start comparing . All of them won either UCL or League titles or both in their next clubs after Liverpool.
For Gini, 3 goals so far isn’t bad . Let’s wait till season finish . He’s sure of Ligue 1.
NB: Suarez , Sterling , Torres dint play under Klopp. I used leaving Liverpool as a general template.

freshalien:
Has Pep won the CL since leaving Barca? He hasn’t even smelt the final of that competition since leaving Barca. There you go, you have your answer.

Are you sure that he hasn't been to the final of champions league? Who played the final match with Chelsea this year ?

Some transfers will bring out the best in You while some will bring regrets such is the fate of this Liverpool players leaving

freshalien:
Spot on!

Same thing with Kagawa when he left for Man Utd. I don’t know how Klopp does it but he makes average players look world-class.

The list is endless.

Same thing with Gotze and Hummel's.

kenzysmith:
same fate awaits salah If he ever push 4 madrid move carlo ancelooti go bench crase commot he head u see that vinicus junior is real madrid diamond

He doesnt play on vini jnr wing. He plays on asensio's

dannypaul:
Players shouldn't allow themselves to be used and pressurised by agents, family and friends.

They are in the best position to understand themselves, what works for them, and the kinda environment they strive in.

Cotinho case is just a sad one. Kloop gave him the confidence and freedom to be himself, the playing structure favoured him and he felt he has arrived.

Not all players have the mental capacity to strive anywhere like Ronaldo.

Just know what works for you and stick to them.
Giggs, Gerald, Lampard, are legends because of longevity.

Salah should watch it thou!!

Oga, forget dat thing. U see dat salah, he go shine if he decide to commot for liverpool.....person wey shine for BASEL, con still go ROMA go be their HIT-MAN!!!

andrewbaba44:
Illiteracy Na disease ,the pained one is clear for all to see nah ,I Dey give out my opinion you kept on being rude despite the warnings , to see person wey dey frustrated no Dey hard

So because I said Coutinho won things at Bayern means I am comparing bundesliga to the epl ,so bundesliga no be league title ,he also won Laliga at Barca ,he won the champions league maybe Bayern champions league is different from Liverpool own

Sadist you can go to hell and continue your tears

Finally I will go and sleep as you have been saying ,I will go and sleep with your olosho mother and give her 20 naira because that’s her worth

Now GTFOH

Sharap ur gutter stinking mouth there u fool from birth. You were a fool from ur miserable prostitute mother's womb. Ewu go and sleep.
Certified mumu! Universal dunce!

Mypeople2:
Are you sure that he hasn't been to the final of champions league? Who played the final match with Chelsea this year ?

Ah, yes that one. Forgot he got to the last final seeing how Tuchel humbled him that day.

Mirawonder007:
Se bi na round of 16 he commot from last year

Profamir:
Really?

Who won the last Champions league?
Whom did the winner play with?

Indeed, Pep has not smelt the final of the competition since leaving Barcelona

Curvinus:
You might want to cross check your facts.

For the records, Chelsea and Mancity played the last CL finals.

Like your name suggests, it seems you have been hiding under a stone.

Make una calm down na. Shebi na everything wey don happen for football you fit remember? That final was not very memorable for anything, except City got to their first CL final and were humbled.

joeking2222:
Oga, forget dat thing. U see dat salah, he go shine if he decide to commot for liverpool.....person wey shine for BASEL, con still go ROMA go be their HIT-MAN!!!

And what happened in Chelsea?
He "may not" shine in another top team.

dannypaul:
And what happened in Chelsea?
He "may not" shine in another top team.

Bro, na d den chelsea coach no sabi use am......na so KDB matter still be. Dem no gv dem better playing time!!!

joeking2222:
Bro, na d den chelsea coach no sabi use am......na so KDB matter still be. Dem no gv dem better playing time!!!

I think we are deviating already.

Salah may not reach the peak he got to in Liverpool in another team. He's better off staying put and becoming a club legend. And that's that.

That is why knowledge of self is very important in life. There are some very gifted players who can play in any team anywhere and be successful. There are very few of them (Ronaldo, Lewandowski and maybe Messi though it is too early to tell how he will end up at PSG). There are other players who are only able to perform at their best when they are in the right team and environment for them. Majority of great players fall into this category. Mo Salah couldn't cut it at Chelsea. It took his move to Liverpool, the right team for him, before he became a super star. Let him make the mistake of leaving Liverpool tomorrow and we may start hearing stories that touch the heart. Same with Lukaku. He was a flop at Chelsea and went to Man U and Serie A and shone. He has been back to Chelsea for a few months now and I won't be surprised if he starts talking about exiting again next season.

Man know thyself.

obembet:
This is not how Gini Wijnaldum pictured it in his head.

Five months into his Paris Saint-Germain career, the Netherlands international finds himself with a fight on his hands.

For his place, for acceptance and recognition and, perhaps, for his future too.

If recent reports are to be believed, then PSG may already be willing to let the 31-year-old leave.

Wijnaldum, apparently, has not settled in the French capital, has not been particularly welcomed by his team-mates and would be open to a move, in particular a return to the Premier League.

What a strange state of affairs. This had looked like the ideal move for all parties when it was confirmed back in June, but now Wijnaldum finds himself being linked with a loan switch to Arsenal or West Ham or Newcastle.

How quickly the world turns, eh? The perils of leaving Liverpool, you might say.

Like Philippe Coutinho before him, Wijnaldum has discovered that the grass isn’t always greener. Life after Anfield, it seems, can be tough, even for the best and the most dedicated.

Wijnaldum left the Reds a hero, a Champions League winner and a Premier League champion. He was the ultimate team player, versatile and durable, prepared to play in attack and defence as well as midfield.

He scored big goals and played in big games. In five years on Merseyside, in fact, he played in more games than anybody else. There were 237 of them in total, a staggering figure for a modern-day midfielder.

Life has been different in Paris, where Wijnaldum has so far started only 11 times and made 10 substitute appearances.

“Very difficult,” he admitted back in October, revealing that “the situation is not what I wanted.”

PSG may be romping away with Ligue 1, and have a Champions League last-16 tie against Real Madrid to look forward to in the New Year, but life is far from perfect at Parc des Princes.

Mauricio Pochettino is under pressure – himself linked strongly with a return to England – and his team, for all its dazzling individual quality, looks imbalanced and lacks cohesion.

They win games because of their talent, but the feeling is that they will come unstuck against better opponents, particularly in the knockout stages of the Champions League. That’s the true cost of having a forward line of Neymar, Kylian Mbappe and Lionel Messi, you might say.

Wijnaldum, you would have thought, would have helped in that regard, given his ability to sacrifice himself for the good of the team.

But while there have been flashes of late – two goals against RB Leipzig, for example, and a last-minute equaliser at Lens – the general consensus is that his performances have been below the standard expected.

He has been criticised, in particular, for playing too safe with his passing, and for not taking enough responsibility in building the game up.

Observers also say he has looked sluggish, both on and off the ball, and there have been moments where his team-mates – Messi and Mbappe, in particular – have openly expressed frustration.

Rather unfairly, it has been suggested that the dressing room, generally, is yet to accept him.

Wijnaldum was a big character at Liverpool, one of the club’s four captains under Klopp before his departure, but he has found PSG a little more cliquey and a little less welcoming. And certainly, he is yet to feel the love from the supporters.

Maybe there is a lesson there, given the interview Wijnaldum gave following his Anfield exit.

In it, he complained that he didn’t always feel “loved and appreciated” by Liverpool fans, particularly those venting their spleen on social media.

“If we lost, I was the one who got the blame,” he claimed, though the reception he got from 10,000 Reds fans after his final game for the club, against Crystal Palace in May, suggests his critics were in the minority. Certainly, Klopp and his team-mates knew his value. There were plenty of tears on his last day.

He wanted to stay at Liverpool, but felt the club didn’t value him as much as they ought to have.

Negotiations over a new deal broke down and were not resumed, and he saw out his contract in difficult circumstances, captaining an injury-hit side in behind-closed-doors games as the 2019-20 champions struggled to sneak a top-four finish in the following campaign.

PSG looked, on paper at least, an ideal move. Certainly better than Barcelona, where he was originally expected to end up.

Wijnaldum, selfless and consistent, looked the ideal player to help balance Pochettino’s side, providing nous and reliability, as well as top-level experience.

He still can, of course. PSG will win Ligue 1 and are capable of winning the Champions League too, for sure. Wijnaldum may still have a role to play, even if it won’t be as integral as the one he had on Merseyside.

His experience, and that of Coutinho, should serve as a warning, however, to those considering a future beyond Liverpool.

Do so at your own risk. After Anfield, these days the only way is down.

Source: https://www.goal.com/en-ae/amp/news/coutinho-wijnaldum-leaving-liverpool-a-dangerous-move/bltccbf2253c698aa7a