sonnie10:

I understand you aim for it to look presentable but my major concern is to create an environment that would optimize the reaction.
The amount of water in a cast system would definitely be quite different from that in a block system.
The question is which of them offer the best condition for optimal reaction?

This is the reason why I requested the system I shared above be opened for me to see what was in the concrete box. There was polyurethane filter and some other stuffs.

The solution was a proprietary design of the company so there’s limit to what I can share.

AlphamaleTech1:


Here, the fibre works effectively when there is little or no water remaining in the Digester, that's why the filter is constructed to remove the water immediately human waste and water gets into the digester.

Now you have established an assumed gradient, “little or no water” . Therefore blocks which is more absorbent is likely to be best material than cast. EOD.

Don’t mind me ooo! I am just catching cruise.

sonnie10:

Now you have established an assumed gradient, “little or no water” . Therefore blocks which is more absorbent is likely to be best material than cast. EOD.

Don’t mind me ooo! I am just catching cruise.

This is pure cast. Water don’t get into the digester.

The wastewater in the system is used for irrigation purpose. I wish I can get the full video of how this runs but watch the video I shared earlier.

sonnie10:

Now you have established an assumed gradient, “little or no water” . Therefore blocks which is more absorbent is likely to be best material than cast. EOD.

Don’t mind me ooo! I am just catching cruise.

Let me break it down so you can understand perfectly.


We construct 2 holes uhn, one is to degrade the human waste while the other hole is to absorb water.

The first hole which is the digester itself has no business with absorbing water.

The second hole is the soaking pit which absorb water.

Now the second hole which absorb water is always installed with blocks.

It's never the duty of a digester to absorb water either you use a concrete or u make use of blocks

AlphamaleTech1:



Let me break it down so you can understand perfectly.


We construct 2 holes uhn, one is to degrade the human waste while the other hole is to absorb water.

The first hole which is the digester itself has no business with absorbing water.

The second hole is the soaking pit which absorb water.

Now the second hole which absorb water is always installed with blocks.

It's never the duty of a digester to absorb water either you use a concrete or u make use of blocks

Now I understand the system better. The reason why there wasn’t a second pit in the system I saw is because the water was used for irrigation/gardening purpose.

Thanks for sharing.

AlphamaleTech1:



U still don't get what I explained above, it's not the work of a digester to absorb water mind you, it's the work of the soaking pit installed with blocks, the digester is only installed to hold the human waste and degrade it, absorbing water is never the work of a digester, so it makes no difference when u looking at the best method of installation considering what will absorb water most

Don’t mind me, it’s the fault of my chemistry teacher. She told me that same material but of different concentrations do not follow the same pathway to establish equilibrium.

n3xt:


Now I understand the system better. The reason why there wasn’t a second pit in the system I saw is because the water was used for irrigation/gardening purpose.

Thanks for sharing.

Exactly it was meant for smth else, so no need to get it absorbed.

Thanks.

AlphamaleTech1:



Let me break it down so you can understand perfectly.


We construct 2 holes uhn, one is to degrade the human waste while the other hole is to absorb water.

The first hole which is the digester itself has no business with absorbing water.

The second hole is the soaking pit which absorb water.

Now the second hole which absorb water is always installed with blocks.

It's never the duty of a digester to absorb water either you use a concrete or u make use of blocks

Ok.

AlphamaleTech1:



Let me break it down so you can understand perfectly.


We construct 2 holes uhn, one is to degrade the human waste while the other hole is to absorb water.

The first hole which is the digester itself has no business with absorbing water.

The second hole is the soaking pit which absorb water.

Now the second hole which absorb water is always installed with blocks.

It's never the duty of a digester to absorb water either you use a concrete or u make use of blocks

Ok. My little nephew was reading our comments and he is curious.

He is asking, now if the molten poo from the first hole moved to either a cast system or a block system which of them would dry it faster? And with of them would the coconut fiber and chemical like to digest most?

I just told him that you said it does not matter.

sonnie10:

Ok. My little nephew was reading our comments and he is curious.

He is asking, now if the molten poo from the first hole moved to either a cast system or a block system which of them would dry it faster? And with of them would the coconut fiber and chemical like to digest most?

I just told him that you said it does not matter.

Either it's casted or block system has no single effect on the human waste as long as there is presence of fibre to digest it immediately the water flushes out of the digester.

Thank you n3xt for your contributions.

First of all
It doesn't make sense for ones hard earned money or project to be used to testing or experiment.

But then when hajji created this forum years ago, I am sure that the first and most important reason was for this space to be a sort of. Learning centre. Where engineers and home owners can have first of information on practices, ways and insights on the construction industry.

One thing I can say is that
Nobody got it all from his or her master/supervisor.
Inshort you don't learn it all from sch or from your master.
I am sure most of us will agree that. Most of the things we learned are by trial and error, researching and experimenting.
May our projects not be victim of trial and errors

AlphamaleTech1:


Either it's casted or block system has no single effect on the human waste as long as there is presence of fibre to digest it immediately the water flushes out of the digester.

Thanks for taking the time to answer and enlighten us on this.
My submission is that since it doesn’t matter whether it is cast or block, I would assume most clients would prefer the casting to block.
Both because it’s long lasting and aesthetics.

On the other hand, most contractors might prefer the most cost effective one which is the block


Therefore the aggrieved client in this case might not be far from the truth when he cried foul.
In a situation where the contract is not explicit on which approach to take, don’t expect the client to appreciate the lesser value structure which is block instead of casting.

To avoid conflict in the future, it’s better to mention which is to be used .

yemi2plus:
Good afternoon everyone,

I am new here and this is my first post on this section.

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Thanks.

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As an artisan, it's very important to make your job look as beautiful as possible.

Whether it works or not, first looks matters a whole lot

Zincce:
160k

Thank you!

Cool , hoping to recommend this system soon

AlphamaleTech1:



Let me break it down so you can understand perfectly.


We construct 2 holes uhn, one is to degrade the human waste while the other hole is to absorb water.

The first hole which is the digester itself has no business with absorbing water.

The second hole is the soaking pit which absorb water.

Now the second hole which absorb water is always installed with blocks.

It's never the duty of a digester to absorb water either you use a concrete or u make use of blocks

michlins:
As an artisan, it's very important to make your job look as beautiful as possible.

Whether it works or not, first looks matters a whole lot

People make snap judgment based on first impression. This explains the reason why visual appeal will always beat usability.

Unfortunately this has little or nothing to do with cost but the creative ingenuity and ability of the product owner to differentiate his product from the competition

Damilaresimon25:


Yea I get you, but the OP went too far in tarnishing him/her without finding out if he/she uses the right materials or not, according to what I found out and in line with what the OP said, the engineer made use of the right materials.... which is coconut fibre and blocks for soaking the water.

He can just call the attention of the engineer to make it neat or employ a bricklayer in helping him make it looks neat and that solve the case.

I wonder how the engineer feels right now, knowing that he did the right thing but just that he outward appearance is rough.

If you are reading this engineer, after your installation, just employ a bricklayer to help u fix the slab or whatever u call it and make it looks beautiful. That's all.

So, if you claim to be an Experienced Professional in a job and was paid to do the task, it is your Client that will be teaching you how to do the work properly?
Hmmm... Abnormal has become Normal, in this Nigeria.

Godisgreatest1:
The ONLY JOB you have is to construct exactly what you present to your client as YOUR PREVIOUS WORK.
It amazes me how we joke with peoples money here!!.
Will the client have contracted you if that 'thing' you call bio-digester was what you presented to him?, Did the contract refer to just the content without the outward appearance? If the outward appearance is a complete disaster why should the content be any different?
Keep posting and decieving people with pictures.

There is a lot of CUT & PASTE of other PEOPLE'S WORK, going on right now.
If he can do what he posted in those pictures, why is he unable to replicate it for the current Customer afteral, one is supposed to get better and better, with time and experience?

smallsmall:


So, if you claim to be an Experienced Professional in a job and was paid to do the task, it is your Client that will be teaching how to do the work properly?
Hmmm... Abnormal has become Normal, in this Nigeria.

There are professionals who care about utility not aesthetics, and there are those that know that both matter, and that those who can combine form and function will make the most bucks.

My electrician is an example. I got that box that stays between power supply armoured cables and the house installed. It is called Adaptable Box.

He said he wants it embedded in the wall. I said NO, I don't want it in the wall, I want on the wall.

He said ok. Next he said he wants to puncture the back of the box. I said Capital NO.

Why not use the holes made on the left and the right or on top and below?

I told him he must not puncture the back to pass the cables that it is not neat. That he must use the premade holes.

He said fine, obviously upset.

I then told him there are 4 wires in all pass one wire per hole on either side, he said it doesn't matter.

I said aesthetics matter to me.

It is pleasant to the eye for each of the wires to have a dedicated hole.

He said OK in desperation. Before that he forced all the wires into one or two holes on either side.

I had to take it over and give each wire its dedicated hole. When I did he retorted are you happy now?

Some of these guys know what to do, but visual appeal is none of their business.

Same reason I opted for those silver plate with red monitor light socket faceplates made by ABB, and when they said, not in stock, I said I will wait till Monday. The white does the job, but the silver faceplates are more visually appealing and will match with my intended interior wall colors.

At the end of this exercise, he told me he likes things plain. So be sure the guy you are employing cares about not just function but both form and function.

smallsmall:



There is a lot of CUT & PASTE of other PEOPLE'S WORK, going on right now.
If he can do what he posted in those pictures, why is he unable to replicate it for the current Customer afteral, one is supposed to get better and better, with time and experience?

The problem is that: 'People claim to be what they are not'.
A job you claimed you have been doing yet you still experiment with peoples money?. After that you expect the owner to show sympathy and teach you how to do the job he paid you for.

I won't be surprised if tomorrow a house owner here will be teaching a 'photo-engineer' he paid, how to mix cement.

AlphamaleTech1:



That's what I wanted to know, and am fulfilled now that I get what u trying to say... Now in the case of bio digester been below the ground level, do u need to do all this or u do this only when it will be visible to everyone?

Why beautify it if it will be buried? You really dont need that.

smallsmall:



There is a lot of CUT & PASTE of other PEOPLE'S WORK, going on right now.
If he can do what he posted in those pictures, why is he unable to replicate it for the current Customer afteral, one is supposed to get better and better, with time and experience?

This same dude did one for me last month... am yet to put it to test but by the end on this months i will have a tone of vistors shitting in my house. I hope it does the expected work.

Godisgreatest1:


The problem is that: 'People claim to be what they are not'.
A job you claimed you have been doing yet you still experiment with peoples money?. After that you expect the owner to show sympathy and teach you how to do the job he paid you for.

I won't be surprised if tomorrow a house owner here will be teaching a 'photo-engineer' he paid, how to mix cement.

lol

FEGEITOK:


There are professionals who care about utility not aesthetics, and there are those that know that both matter, and that those who can combine form and function will make the most bucks.

My electrician is an example. I got that box that stays between power supply armoured cables and the house installed. It is called Adaptable Box.

He said he wants it embedded in the wall. I said NO, I don't want it in the wall, I want on the wall.

He said ok. Next he said he wants to puncture the back of the box. I said Capital NO.

Why not use the holes made on the left and the right or on top and below?

I told him he must not puncture the back to pass the cables that it is not neat. That he must use the premade holes.

He said fine, obviously upset.

I then told him there are 4 wires in all pass one wire per hole on either side, he said it doesn't matter.

I said aesthetics matter to me.

It is pleasant to the eye for each of the wires to have a dedicated hole.

He said OK in desperation. Before that he forced all the wires into one or two holes on either side.

I had to take it over and give each wire its dedicated hole. When I did he retorted are you happy now?

Some of these guys know what to do, but visual appeal is none of their business.

Same reason I opted for those silver plate with red monitor light socket faceplates made by ABB, and when they said, not in stock, I said I will wait till Monday. The white does the job, but the silver faceplates are more visually appealing and will match with my intended interior wall colors.

At the end of this exercise, he told me he likes things plain. So be sure the guy you are employing cares about not just function but both form and function.

Several years ago (almost 2 decades now) I learnt how switches and sockets are arranged in upscale developments. It’s completely different from the way we arrange them in most regular buildings.

The same electrical work that got a pass in Elerangbe might not get a pass in any of the Sujimotos builds even if the same electrician is used on both project.

It’s not because he doesn’t know what he’s doing but because the expectation of both customer are different.

_____

I recently did a surface wiring in a clients house. The electrician asked me to bring fund for trunk pipes. I smiled and told him “I have what I’m going to use for this part of the job. It’s not the regular trunk but something that’ll blend with the building aesthetics and it’ll still be the dreaded surface wiring.”

BrabusNG:


Several years ago (almost 2 decades now) I learnt how switches and sockets are arranged in upscale developments. It’s completely different from the way we arrange them in most regular buildings.

The same electrical work that got a pass in Elerangbe might not get a pass in any of the Sujimotos builds even if the same electrician is used on both project.

It’s not because he doesn’t know what he’s doing but because the expectation of both customer are different.

_____

I recently did a surface wiring in a clients house. The electrician asked me to bring fund for trunk pipes. I smiled and told him “I have what I’m going to use for this part of the job. It’s not the regular trunk but something that’ll blend with the building aesthetics and it’ll still be the dreaded surface wiring.”

Lovely

To those who practise what they preach, I wish you good rewards

To those who always know how others should do it but never able to do it themselves, may you find the light soon.

To those who knows how to use other's good job to pass as theirs, may you not be able to ever have anyone use your job to do same.

In my line of business, you get punished once you make errors instantly and you only have few seconds or minutes to make decisions, else you have to wait for another opportunity you're not of when it will come which is where I learnt patience and calm from.

People in my field can't be mediocre and expect to be successful.

Lastly, you can't sit on my money and think you will go Scott free.

Silence and calm are weapons I have learnt to survive in this abnormal society where criminals and con men play football.

I bait on.

BrabusNG:


Nice. I wish I saw this 2 weeks ago.

Do you do murals?

Thanks sir, yes we do that as well..