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| Re: If There Is Any Past Nigerian I Would Go On A Long Bus Trip With, It Nzeogwu by paramakina202: 9:07pm On Dec 19, 2021 |
Idiko1:Give dates and places it happened and link to support your argument.Dont come here with your own side of the story and present it as facts. |
| Re: If There Is Any Past Nigerian I Would Go On A Long Bus Trip With, It Nzeogwu by Idiko1: 9:10pm On Dec 19, 2021 |
kingawothefirst:When did Obasanjo become Sango or oracle of western region of Nigeria? The so-called letter was dated June 17, 1967. I guess you should have investigated when Nzeogwu was released from detention in Enugu, when the war started and what courier was involved. |
| Re: If There Is Any Past Nigerian I Would Go On A Long Bus Trip With, It Nzeogwu by Idiko1: 9:14pm On Dec 19, 2021 |
paramakina202:Please consult the google. The pogrom started in May1966. The FIVE MAJORS by Ben Gbulie could be of good help. |
| Re: If There Is Any Past Nigerian I Would Go On A Long Bus Trip With, It Nzeogwu by BafanaBafana: 6:38am On Dec 20, 2021 |
AlexBells:Investigations have revealed that who is who in Igbo land knew about the coup. As a matter of fact, Ojukwu had told Zik's son that his father would soon be given real powers in Nigeria. Zik was aware, Ironsi was aware and he was plotting to take advantage and hold unto power. Zik was supposed to be made head of government but Ironsi took and held unto power for himself. In the letter he wrote to Ironsi after the coup, it was more like "o boy how far na", |
| Re: If There Is Any Past Nigerian I Would Go On A Long Bus Trip With, It Nzeogwu by AlexBells(op): 7:47am On Dec 20, 2021 |
BafanaBafana:Investigation by who, Lagos Ibadan propaganda papers, why didn't they investigate Fajuyi's Assassination, Like I stated earlier, if knowing about the coup made anyone part of it, then both Akintola and Saduana knew, maybe they all thought it was all on Zik and Tafawa, so you are just keeping the opinion of fabricated Bulshit, Zik had always been a wise man, Akintilo and Bello thought it was not about the regions why they were not concerned, Whatever happened is in the past and hopefully every region got a fair share of the calamity of the past, no one really got over it, every region felt it, I hope now every party is satisfied, now let's start on a fresh page, I support the current unitary government, I'm happy it was achieved and instead of going back to regional governments, I prefer a total breakup, hopefully I prefer the country the way it is with a touch of confedracy |
| Re: If There Is Any Past Nigerian I Would Go On A Long Bus Trip With, It Nzeogwu by Idiko1: 8:43pm On Dec 20, 2021 |
AlexBells:They are the most cowered and conniving dingbats on earth. The fools manufactured the fallacy that Fajuyi wanted to die along with Ironsi while protecting his boss. A person wonders if the jackasses knew anything about a coup and the military. Francis Fajuyi had no command of a gateman at government house in Ibadan talk less protect someone. |
| Re: If There Is Any Past Nigerian I Would Go On A Long Bus Trip With, It Nzeogwu by AlexBells(op): 9:04pm On Dec 20, 2021 |
Idiko1:I wonder why our people never cared to burst those lies, funny enough I grew up believing that trash, coming to think of it, how could a soldier offer to die with another Soldier, meanwhile the other soldier was a Governor of a whole region, so does him volunteering to die make it less of a murder so why didnt his people press for justice, these people can't even protect their own, anyone trusting them is on their own. They play very mean politics and propaganda and if you listened to Aburi, do you know these people didn't care about the Governor of the West which was abducted and subsequently assassinated with Ironsi, only The Governor of the East and Midwest still insisted on knowing the way about of Ironsi, I don't even know the front or back of those people, honestly. |
| Re: If There Is Any Past Nigerian I Would Go On A Long Bus Trip With, It Nzeogwu by Idiko1: 9:24pm On Dec 20, 2021 |
AlexBells:Ndigbo and Biafrans were in a war of attrition in 1967 and had no time to counter such rubbish. The same deceitful maggots, in conjunction with the moronic northern regional elites, informed the public that "Ewu Na Ebe Akwa" was a handiwork of Igbo artist to slight the northerners over the killing of their leaders. Little did the fools know that the artist of the aforementioned song was Ijaw. It was the NAN (News Agency of Nigeria) that published and distributed the gruesome photograph of dead bodies of northern leaders killed in 1966 coup and pitched the blame on Igbo market women in northern region. How did Igbo market women get close to the dead body of Sardauna of Sokoto talk less snaping a picture of it? |
| Re: If There Is Any Past Nigerian I Would Go On A Long Bus Trip With, It Nzeogwu by AlexBells(op): 10:08pm On Dec 20, 2021 |
Idiko1:Hopefully, I hope the Igbos of this generation be more calculated and understand that whether this country breaks up or Not there are some kind of sacrifices that is not worth like what Nzeogwu did, I love Nzeogwu but why kill other people's leaders for a problem that was only secondary to ndigbo, Ojukwu was tensed at then but the declaration of Biafra was hasty, he could have squabble a bit with Gowon within Nigeria with civil disobedience and counter command than outright declaration, You see somethings that IPOB learnt their lesson but took it to a whole rash level again, you do realise the first security set up by Kanu was Biafra Security Network later he had to change it to Eastern security network The problem with Kanu and IPOB is the lack of mandate but Ojukwu had mandates, he could have set up things like ESN back then in 1967 to enforce his command in the East, I don't really know when we would get it right, the Kanu that is making calculated sense hates politics and abhors the Military making a rebellion in the eyes of the law. |
| Re: If There Is Any Past Nigerian I Would Go On A Long Bus Trip With, It Nzeogwu by Musrataman(m): 2:01am On Dec 21, 2021 |
Bastardlyrich:Ogogoro ijaw is one state |
| Re: If There Is Any Past Nigerian I Would Go On A Long Bus Trip With, It Nzeogwu by Tingotoe: 7:07am On Dec 21, 2021 |
Tetrahedron:A murderer did nothing wrong? |
| Re: If There Is Any Past Nigerian I Would Go On A Long Bus Trip With, It Nzeogwu by BafanaBafana: 12:42pm On Dec 21, 2021 |
AlexBells:I'm talking about CIA files on the coup. Bros, you can go with whatever narratives suits you, it doesn't change the truth about what happened. A coup was plotted by politicians and soldiers from a particular tribe. |
| Re: If There Is Any Past Nigerian I Would Go On A Long Bus Trip With, It Nzeogwu by BafanaBafana: 12:45pm On Dec 21, 2021 |
Idiko1:Una don come again. Same way it is Fulani DSS that are going about killing people in the east and calling blaming it on ipob and ESN. |
| Re: If There Is Any Past Nigerian I Would Go On A Long Bus Trip With, It Nzeogwu by AlexBells(op): 2:21pm On Dec 21, 2021 |
BafanaBafana:Are you saying CIA was an accomplice, feed your mind whatever you want, it is in the long past now, however I personally prefer the current system of government |
| Re: If There Is Any Past Nigerian I Would Go On A Long Bus Trip With, It Nzeogwu by christistruth01: 3:41pm On Dec 21, 2021 |
BafanaBafana:Please could you kindly Link to the CIA files That was the same thing British Intelligence said , that it was an NCNC Coup That was why Party leader Nnamdi Azikiwe was out of the Country when it was executed |
| Re: If There Is Any Past Nigerian I Would Go On A Long Bus Trip With, It Nzeogwu by christistruth01: 3:51pm On Dec 21, 2021 |
BafanaBafana:At the time Azikiwe wrote that Telegram to Gen Ironsi ,Dipcherma of Borno State was still the acting head of the Government and Gen Ironsi hadn't even taken power yet Gen David Ejoor also said he got to know that Ironsi was Part of the Coup because his deputy had been told to take over the Enugu battalion since Ejoor would not be returning Ejoor was supposed to have been assasinated at Eko Holiday inn but the Coup plotters went to shoot up the wrong room Col Largema was shot dead in the same Hotel Col Fajuyi was also supposed to have been killed but he slept at a Friend's house Gowon would have been killed with Col Pam at his house but he too had gone elsewhere to sleep at the last minute Col Bassey at Kaduna was also on the list of those to be killed but he got wind of the plan at the last minute and managed to escape dressed as an Hausa Civilian Col Bassey was 3 years Ironsi's Senior Officer but Azikiwe had used Politics to delay Basseys Promotion while accelerating Ironsi's own otherwise Bassey Of Calabar was meant to be head of the Army as he was the most senior Officer at Independence in 1960 |
| Re: If There Is Any Past Nigerian I Would Go On A Long Bus Trip With, It Nzeogwu by slivertongue: 4:42pm On Dec 21, 2021 |
gidgiddy:Midwest wasn't part of Biafra but the igbos in that region were largely with their kinsmen in the South East. Nobody in the North consider igbos in the Midwest as neutrals or non igbos |
| Re: If There Is Any Past Nigerian I Would Go On A Long Bus Trip With, It Nzeogwu by T9ksy(m): 7:28pm On Dec 21, 2021 |
christistruth01:Good thing, Pa Awolowo was in prison in calabar, else am sure, these barbarians from the yeastside would have found a reason to kill him, too |
| Re: If There Is Any Past Nigerian I Would Go On A Long Bus Trip With, It Nzeogwu by Idiko1: 11:22pm On Dec 21, 2021 |
AlexBells:Which Nzeogwu advised against the war and from what position? Nzeogwu was lucky to have been held in Nigerian prison at Enugu. |
| Re: If There Is Any Past Nigerian I Would Go On A Long Bus Trip With, It Nzeogwu by Idiko1: 11:51pm On Dec 21, 2021 |
christistruth01:Zanna Bukar Zipcharima was a junior minister could not have acted as a head of government in coalition between NPC and NCNC. Major David Ejoor could claim anything to placate his northern masters. Besides, he claimed to have ridden his bicycle from Benin to Lagos. Ejoor had no deputy at Enugu since he never assumed the command of fifth battalion. Lt Col Fajuyi could not have been marked for death when he was allegedly pinpointed as the ringleader of January 1966 coup. Lt Col Gowon had no command of boy's company and very irrelevant to coup plotters. Besides, Gowon just came back from overseas course and scheduled to take over from Njoku as second battalion commander. Lt Col Wellington Umoh Bassey was not in Kaduna on January 15, 1966. He was in Zaria as the commander of S&T Depot. Typical Nigerian fallacy. there were two men with name, Wellington Bassey. Wellington Duke Bassey was Ironsi's senior and resigned his commission before Nigeria got independence in1960. Wellington Umoh Bassey enlisted in1953 alongside Robert Adeyinka Adebayo. |
| Re: If There Is Any Past Nigerian I Would Go On A Long Bus Trip With, It Nzeogwu by christistruth01: 12:11am On Dec 22, 2021 |
Idiko1:Dipcherma was the most Senior NPC Minister alive. and was nominated to act on behalf of Balewa that was missing Col Bassey was made an officer 3 years before Ironsi Col Bassey was in Zaria depot Kaduna State http://www.gamji.com/nowa/nowa25.htm From Norman Miners book The Nigerian Army
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| Re: If There Is Any Past Nigerian I Would Go On A Long Bus Trip With, It Nzeogwu by Idiko1: 12:23am On Dec 22, 2021 |
christistruth01:You are very childish. Dipcharima was a minister without portfolio in the Ministry of Commerce and Industry under Mbadiwe. Zanna later moved to Ministry of Transport with portfolio to replace Ray Amaze Njoku. The Bassey who senior to Ironsi did not make the rank of Lt Col. Ironsi became the only African with the rank of Major in British West African force in 1956 and became ADC to Queen Elizabeth II during her visit to the amalgamated territories which became Nigeria. There was no Kaduna State in 1966. Zaria and Kaduna were urban places in northern region of Nigeria. Wellington Duke Bassey was Efik while Willington Umoh Bassey was Ibibio. Please stop quoting Nowa Omogui to me. Dr. Nowa is good but not great. |
| Re: If There Is Any Past Nigerian I Would Go On A Long Bus Trip With, It Nzeogwu by christistruth01: 12:33am On Dec 22, 2021 |
Idiko1:At the Bottom below is the London Gazette document of April 1954 Showing the Seniority dates of both Bassey and Ironsi in the West Africa Frontier Force That is not true Col Bassey was already a Major in 1954 when Gowon joined the Army That Bassey was still a lt Col 12 years later in 1966 was the Tribulation that Azikiwe and his Kinsmen put Bassey through for being a Calabar man loyal to Eyo Ita Please note Wellington Duke Bassey's Army number RWAFF was WA 1 .Ironsi's number was WA 4. That means that Wellington Duke U Bassey of Calabar was the most Senior Army Officer in British West Africa !! Can you see the wickedness and envy against Bassey? What was Bassey still doing on the same Rank as Ojukwu in 1966 ? Bassey was not Ironsi's mate ! At the Bottom below is the London Gazette document of April 1954 Showing the Seniority dates of both Bassey and Ironsi in the West Africa Frontier Force Bassey was an Officer in April 1944 and Ironsi in October 1947 Learn to Respect your Elders !!
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| Re: If There Is Any Past Nigerian I Would Go On A Long Bus Trip With, It Nzeogwu by Idiko1: 12:39am On Dec 22, 2021 |
christistruth01:Wellington Duke Bassey was never a Nigeria army officer because he resigned his commission before Nigeria became independent country. Most goons in Nigeria erroneously believed Umoh was Duke. |
| Re: If There Is Any Past Nigerian I Would Go On A Long Bus Trip With, It Nzeogwu by christistruth01: 12:46am On Dec 22, 2021 |
Idiko1:Bassey never re-signed until after the Second Coup in 1966 Bassey was the most Senior Officer at Independence and Commanded the Independence Parade !!! |
| Re: If There Is Any Past Nigerian I Would Go On A Long Bus Trip With, It Nzeogwu by Idiko1: 12:47am On Dec 22, 2021 |
christistruth01:You should use your empty skull. Nobody stays in the army on one rank for four years without promotion. Umoh Bassey a Major in 1954 only advance one rank to Lt Col in 12 years. I shook my head. He enlisted in 1953 as recruit and he rose in rank. |
| Re: If There Is Any Past Nigerian I Would Go On A Long Bus Trip With, It Nzeogwu by christistruth01: 12:50am On Dec 22, 2021*. Modified: 1:12am On Dec 22, 2021 |
Idiko1:Wellington Duke Umoh Bassey Of Calabar Enlisted as a recruit in 1936 !! Almost 7 years before Ironsi Duke of Wellington was his nickname Thanks for agreeing that what Azikiwe and his Kinsmen put him through for being a Calabar man was wicked If wellington bassey's career had not been sabotaged by Zik and his NCNC Ministers in order to produce Ironsi as head of Army he would have been head of the Army in Jan 1966 and the Coups and Civil War would not have happened. His promotional trainings were delayed to make sure Ironsi ended up as head of the Army Zik and his Ministers didn't trust the Calabar man to be in charge of the Army .Zik later complained that Gen Ironsi should have made W.bassey's Governor of the Eastern Region and not ojukwu who was by far his Junior There was terrible propaganda against him. W.U Bassey later commanded the 1st Brigade Division Kaduna only 1st Class officer's command that Brigade. It was Nigeria's no 1 Military establishment. On the day of the Jan 15 Coup in 1966 W.U Bassey was serving in a posting meant for a Captain .Ironsi his junior was Head of the Army and Ojukwu whom Bassey was Commissioned 7 years ahead of and had joined the Army while Ojukwu was still 3 years old was commanding the Brigade in Kano. (A Brigadiers post). That was terrible injustice against the man. Northern Officers and Soldiers had seen all this and went out their way to make sure W.U Bassey was untouched during the revenge coup. https://www.sunnewsonline.com/gen-adeyinka-adebayos-last-interview-echoes-of-january-15-1966-coup-why-the-army-struck/
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| Re: If There Is Any Past Nigerian I Would Go On A Long Bus Trip With, It Nzeogwu by christistruth01: 1:06am On Dec 22, 2021*. Modified: 1:26am On Dec 22, 2021 |
![]() Wellington Duke U Bassey was a Calabar man Who was Senior to Both Ironsi and Ojukwu as an Officer. From Zik's "origins of the Nigeria Civil War "
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| Re: If There Is Any Past Nigerian I Would Go On A Long Bus Trip With, It Nzeogwu by AlexBells(op): 8:16am On Dec 23, 2021 |
Idiko1:Did You read Nzeogwu's last interview, he said even if Ojukwu won the war still the East would not be able to secede, so what's more like an advice against the war, did Ojukwu carry any influential person along aside, psychophant individuals like Achebe and Achuzie, Ojukwu and Nzeogwu spoke at learnt when they agreed that Nzeogwu would not be quite into much (Lead a Command or unit) but he can do whatever he wanted still, Ifeajuna and Co were up with another plans, to eliminate both Ojukwu and Gowon, Learn to read beyond propaganda, they Called Ifeajuna a Saboteurs, but that's a lie Ifeajuna was a hero yet always saddled with the most difficult options |
| Re: If There Is Any Past Nigerian I Would Go On A Long Bus Trip With, It Nzeogwu by Bkayyy: 4:28pm On Jan 07, 2022 |
owagbeba:I go for Guerilla warfare. According to Wale Ademoyega, Chukwuma Kaduna Nzeogwu suggested the same to Ojukwu but he didn't buy the idea. If Ojukwu had agreed with Nzeogwu, Biafra would have been independent by now and the casualties would have been averted. |
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